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Link Posted: 7/15/2022 9:05:23 PM EDT
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OP said the renders look great.

Some disagree.
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Did the haters read the article?

These are renders from forum members who read a thing from one of Toyota's suppliers.  This isn't even close to anything official.

Remember how the Bronco had about 87,000 clickbait "renders" before Ford showed us even a teaser?  It's like that.


OP said the renders look great.

Some disagree.



OP being the article, not the ARF OP, I am on the fence.

Link Posted: 7/15/2022 9:07:05 PM EDT
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Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.


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Ok, that's more like it. The ones in the OP look like dog shit.
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:44:54 PM EDT
[#3]
And I thought the current gen was ugly....
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:46:23 PM EDT
[#4]
lol
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:47:46 PM EDT
[#5]
The tundra taillights look horrendous.
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:49:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Toyota trucks are dead to me the designing engineers should be exiled.
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:49:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Those wheel wells would be awful. Lots to chop, if even possible, to fit decent sized tires.
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 10:53:39 PM EDT
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Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.


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Did the haters read the article?

These are renders from forum members who read a thing from one of Toyota's suppliers.  This isn't even close to anything official.

Remember how the Bronco had about 87,000 clickbait "renders" before Ford showed us even a teaser?  It's like that.

Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.




One of the other models they showed in that presentation just debuted as a Japanese market Crown variant (completely unchanged).

Put a regular grille on it and that is the new Tacoma.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:15:11 AM EDT
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One of the other models they showed in that presentation just debuted as a Japanese market Crown variant (completely unchanged).

Put a regular grille on it and that is the new Tacoma.
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Did the haters read the article?

These are renders from forum members who read a thing from one of Toyota's suppliers.  This isn't even close to anything official.

Remember how the Bronco had about 87,000 clickbait "renders" before Ford showed us even a teaser?  It's like that.

Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.




One of the other models they showed in that presentation just debuted as a Japanese market Crown variant (completely unchanged).

Put a regular grille on it and that is the new Tacoma.

Your contention makes sense.

I wouldn't/couldn't make that connection. But Toyota itself released those photos, so we can derive something from that.


Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:32:29 AM EDT
[#10]
I was hoping for something more like this…

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Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:43:35 AM EDT
[#11]
Easy render, they took the new tundra and scaled it.  I don’t know about a BEV version but the tundras i-force v6TT hybrid puts out some power.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:45:34 AM EDT
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toyota version is much better, i still not sure about  the angled fender moulding
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:53:35 AM EDT
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Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.


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The way the lines of the bed 'rush' into cab are...
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:54:59 AM EDT
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It looks like a Silverado after a roll over accident.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 6:55:08 AM EDT
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Did the haters read the article?

These are renders from forum members who read a thing from one of Toyota's suppliers.  This isn't even close to anything official.

Remember how the Bronco had about 87,000 clickbait "renders" before Ford showed us even a teaser?  It's like that.
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Well tbh, those renders looked 1,870% better than what Ford released so.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:07:22 AM EDT
[#16]
Needs more angles...
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:07:48 AM EDT
[#17]
It could use more angles and sheet metal stampings. I just want a slab sided truck to be used as a truck. That's kinda ridiculous.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:10:55 AM EDT
[#18]
Add a winch bumper, replace that grill, and the Taco will look just fine.

Check out the Tundra - no more Bubba Gump Lip:


https://c4fabrication.com/products/tundra-overland-series-front-bumper-3rd-gen-2023


https://dv8offroad.com/collections/2022-toyota-tundra-front-bumpers
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:12:07 AM EDT
[#19]
That's 1 ugly truck.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:16:01 AM EDT
[#20]
Looks like someone from GM designed the wheel wells.

And what's up with Toyota not being able to have the wheel flares go all the way down to the bottom of the fender? The whole purpose of the flares is to protect the paint from damage, can't do that when you got half a foot uncovered.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:21:51 AM EDT
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It will look like crap after taking it off-road a few times with that painted plastic down low I front of the wheels like that.  They also made it so that an upgrader will have to cut up the front bodywork in order to install a functional off-road bumper and winch.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:36:28 AM EDT
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That is a sadly ugly truck.

How much crack does the man in charge have to smoke to think that is a good look?
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:53:07 AM EDT
[#23]
Reminds me of a Transformer.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:56:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/16/2022 7:58:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Those trucks look god awful.

They also look like they have the ground clearance of a lawn mower.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:03:34 AM EDT
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Looks like shit.

I dont get, and never will get the GD fascination with Toyota.
I rented a '22 4-Runner in Nashville and it was a gawd-awful piece of shit.
Underpowered as fuck, noisy, and a real slick 1990's interior.

Fuck Toyota, hard in the balloon knot.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:12:53 AM EDT
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I borrowed a Tundra to pick up a 32 ford. Not a heavy car, but that truck could barely pull it. Piece of shit trans in the thing. Grossly under powered.

Would not buy as a truck that needs to do truck things.

Picked up a 1936 GMC Bobber truck with an f-150 (8 years older model, to boot). No issues.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:14:00 AM EDT
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Looks like shit.

I dont get, and never will get the GD fascination with Toyota.
I rented a '22 4-Runner in Nashville and it was a gawd-awful piece of shit.
Underpowered as fuck, noisy, and a real slick 1990's interior.

Fuck Toyota, hard in the balloon knot.
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Yet, despite your insightful opinion, Toyota's  the largest, best positioned  and likely the most influential corporation going into the remainder of the century. That without recognizing what will be the most important - or very well the largest failure - Woven Planet.

I get your points, but at scale they simply don't matter.


Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:14:35 AM EDT
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I just drove a 22 model for 1.5 weeks.

What a piece of junk. Everything felt bad and very cheap.

Brakes were inconsistent and touchy.  

Steering was twitchy and made it kind of hard to drive at interstate speed.

Suspension was bouncier than a 1984 Cadillac.  

Putting it into drive would make a loud clank and cause everyone in the truck to rock back.

Engine was gutless.

Transmission shifted at weird times. Wouldn't shift down when needed.

Seats are terrible and too close to the floor making sitting uncomfortable

My empty 14' single axle trailer tossed it around.

Loud and noisy cabin.

Exhaust tone sounded like a toy.

Fuel mileage was worse than my wife's gladiator and not much better than my 2500 Ram.

Stereos sounded better in early 90s Geos.

Radio and screen was the most counterintuitive setup I've ever seen. I gave up trying to figure out how to do things so many times.  Even my 13 year old had a hard time just finding the radio.  She hated it and she never hates electronics.

Backup camera was a joke.  Pretty sure they could have made nicer ones in the 80s.

Everything is flimsy and cheap.

Just confirmed everything I thought about Toyota. They are a joke and most overpriced and overrated vehicles out there.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:27:30 AM EDT
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Yet, despite your insightful opinion, Toyota's  the largest, best positioned  and likely the most influential corporation going into the remainder of the century. That without recognizing what will be the most important - or very well the largest failure - Woven Planet.

I get your points, but at scale they simply don't matter.


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I really don't care about their perceived 'influence and global positioning'...

Their products and fucking garbage and over-rated.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:39:07 AM EDT
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What is a “render”?  Besides a base coat of plaster, I mean.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:50:01 AM EDT
[#32]
The new Tundra looks like it was reduced in size compared to my 2019.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:53:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/16/2022 8:55:26 AM EDT
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Yet, despite your insightful opinion, Toyota's  the largest, best positioned  and likely the most influential corporation going into the remainder of the century. That without recognizing what will be the most important - or very well the largest failure - Woven Planet.

I get your points, but at scale they simply don't matter.


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Looks like shit.

I dont get, and never will get the GD fascination with Toyota.
I rented a '22 4-Runner in Nashville and it was a gawd-awful piece of shit.
Underpowered as fuck, noisy, and a real slick 1990's interior.

Fuck Toyota, hard in the balloon knot.

Yet, despite your insightful opinion, Toyota's  the largest, best positioned  and likely the most influential corporation going into the remainder of the century. That without recognizing what will be the most important - or very well the largest failure - Woven Planet.

I get your points, but at scale they simply don't matter.




Cults are usually very strong, until they're not.

And that's all Toyota is. Because every single person that claims they are great are either brainwashed, very sheltered, or brain dead.

Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:03:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Fugly just like the new Tundra
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:03:53 AM EDT
[#36]
I own a 2009 with the 4 cylinder that I bought new for around $20k.  I haven't cared for the 3rd gen ones and probably won't like this one either, but when I finally have to replace mine, I expect I'll be stuck buying another Tacoma because the other choices out there are worse.

I won't even consider a woke Ford shit pile.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:05:32 AM EDT
[#37]
It appears the rendering folks have looked at a lot of current GM offerings.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:07:03 AM EDT
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toyota version is much better, i still not sure about  the angled fender moulding
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agreed.  Don't get it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:13:03 AM EDT
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Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.


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Did the haters read the article?

These are renders from forum members who read a thing from one of Toyota's suppliers.  This isn't even close to anything official.

Remember how the Bronco had about 87,000 clickbait "renders" before Ford showed us even a teaser?  It's like that.

Nobody got time for that. Renders  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/116DC4BA-5588-4495-A76F-46D6619B55D9_jpe-2454222.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/B063EE3C-AABF-43AC-A493-E7C4F9F6B5B1_jpe-2454224.JPG

This stuff actually from TOYOTA a bit back when they were highlighting their BEV commitment sure looks better. But I don't think anyone outside Toyota and suppliers knows dick about the status.

Tier one supplier - huh, incoming NDA review.




Way better… the renders in the OP all need a lift and larger tires, like these.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:15:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:15:21 AM EDT
[#41]
Looks great, to blind people.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:17:26 AM EDT
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While I don’t think it’s quite *that* bad, I need to lead up a truck design team.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:21:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Never understood fan renders. They’re all the same. Instead of coming up with something new, they take current design features snd smash them together. Yes there are styling cues and patterns from every manufacturer,  it hardly do they just add them all together.
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:21:38 AM EDT
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Those are some seriously ugly renders.  

Does the President of Toyota pull school children out of origami class, sexually molest them, and then put them to work in the Toyota styling department?  
I cannot think of another reason that Toyota styling is so foul.  

Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:31:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Concept pictures are a bit rough but the official (?) pics look way better.

Honestly , none of the trucks in that class are all that hot. The ford has some nice features , but after driving one for almost two weeks I wanted nothing to do with the ranger.

Chevy , ah no thanks.

Nissan , idk maybe ? Old tech again , but fairly proven.

Toyota , old tech but fairly reliable long term. ???????
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:31:19 AM EDT
[#46]
It Looks like My Wife's RAV4



Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:33:16 AM EDT
[#47]
Don’t like that or the new Tundra.
The new 4runner renders are where it’s at and what they should base everything off of.


Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:35:38 AM EDT
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I just drove a 22 model for 1.5 weeks.

What a piece of junk. Everything felt bad and very cheap.

Brakes were inconsistent and touchy.  

Steering was twitchy and made it kind of hard to drive at interstate speed.

Suspension was bouncier than a 1984 Cadillac.  

Putting it into drive would make a loud clank and cause everyone in the truck to rock back.

Engine was gutless.

Transmission shifted at weird times. Wouldn't shift down when needed.

Seats are terrible and too close to the floor making sitting uncomfortable

My empty 14' single axle trailer tossed it around.

Loud and noisy cabin.

Exhaust tone sounded like a toy.

Fuel mileage was worse than my wife's gladiator and not much better than my 2500 Ram.

Stereos sounded better in early 90s Geos.

Radio and screen was the most counterintuitive setup I've ever seen. I gave up trying to figure out how to do things so many times.  Even my 13 year old had a hard time just finding the radio.  She hated it and she never hates electronics.

Backup camera was a joke.  Pretty sure they could have made nicer ones in the 80s.

Everything is flimsy and cheap.

Just confirmed everything I thought about Toyota. They are a joke and most overpriced and overrated vehicles out there.
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So Toyota has become 90's GM, just like they aimed for?
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:40:09 AM EDT
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I mean…it’s better than the Tundra
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Only because it's smaller and takes up less space...
Link Posted: 7/16/2022 9:43:39 AM EDT
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Never understood fan renders. They’re all the same. Instead of coming up with something new, they take current design features snd smash them together. Yes there are styling cues and patterns from every manufacturer,  it hardly do they just add them all together.
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Renders make money.
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