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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:04:09 PM EDT
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I’ve had my SLR-106FR since 2007, and I had the forethought to buy a small pile of Bulgarian waffle mags back then too.
The mags are the real consideration… and I’d maybe go with the Beryl/Mini Beryl these days. The SAM5 AR-M5F is pretty cool too though. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:16:21 PM EDT
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I have a Beryl, Zastava M90 and the SAM 5. Of the three, I would pick the Beryl first, and the M90 would be a close second. Nothing wrong with my SAM 5, but it just like the other two more.
As far as mags go, I would pick up FB Radom Beryl mags, WBP mags and AC Unity mags. They all fit and function well in all three of my rifles. I also like the all steel M85 mags. I have some black Circle 10 mags, but they are extremely tight fitting in all of the rifles. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But that ain't an AK! I do like my 7.62 VZ58 quite a bit. Was a fun build. Trigger kinda sucks but nothing like the huge nasty sear the commercial guns use with both sear springs in place. My favorite rifle cartridge is 5.45x39 though. Like it so much I make my own brass from 556 brass and swage down .224 bullets for it. My 556 saiga has been great but ((10)) mags are spendy. Today, if I were looking for a 556 AK I'd buy a PSA that uses AR mags. Solves the mag issue using cheap STANAG mags found everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: But that ain't an AK! I do like my 7.62 VZ58 quite a bit. Was a fun build. Trigger kinda sucks but nothing like the huge nasty sear the commercial guns use with both sear springs in place. My favorite rifle cartridge is 5.45x39 though. Like it so much I make my own brass from 556 brass and swage down .224 bullets for it. My 556 saiga has been great but ((10)) mags are spendy. Today, if I were looking for a 556 AK I'd buy a PSA that uses AR mags. Solves the mag issue using cheap STANAG mags found everywhere. True, but if I had to choose between an AK and the VZ I'd hump a pimped out Czech all day every day. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve had my SLR-106FR since 2007, and I had the forethought to buy a small pile of Bulgarian waffle mags back then too. The mags are the real consideration… and I’d maybe go with the Beryl/Mini Beryl these days. The SAM5 AR-M5F is pretty cool too though. Thank you, I forgot about the mini Beryl damn maybe I’ll look at one of those I wish I could see them in person |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a Beryl, Zastava M90 and the SAM 5. Of the three, I would pick the Beryl first, and the M90 would be a close second. Nothing wrong with my SAM 5, but it just like the other two more. As far as mags go, I would pick up FB Radom Beryl mags, WBP mags and AC Unity mags. They all fit and function well in all three of my rifles. I also like the all steel M85 mags. I have some black Circle 10 mags, but they are extremely tight fitting in all of the rifles. Thank you it’s good to hear from someone who owns so many. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:26:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may take flak for this, but I'm waiting for the KUSA 101 to come out. Very excited about that release. However, I'm in the process of building a 5.56 side folder 12.5" AK. Gonna be sweet. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:28:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like KUSA, other than their special weird paint schemes of the week they do. Keep 'em black ffs I hope they make a 105 soon |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 10:42:51 PM EDT
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Galil ACE. I've owned/built most pattern of AKs and that would be my pick (still have one in .308). However, a good AR is still my go-to 5.56 rifle.
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Posted: 7/15/2023 11:09:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True, but if I had to choose between an AK and the VZ I'd hump a pimped out Czech all day every day. I do rather like my VZ58. One of these days I'm going to get a "Not an AK" shirt with a VZ on it. I totally forgot about the Galil too. Great rifles. Love the one I built. Or OP could go to the moon and get a M76 Valmet. Mmm. |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 11:10:42 PM EDT
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I built one from a Tantal and arsenal barrel then welded and remachined the front trunnion to take Galil mags like whoever the first asshole to make 5.56 AKs should have done.
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Posted: 7/15/2023 11:14:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they make a 105 soon I've been nothing short of impressed with all my KUSA firearms and they even did the free firing pin upgrade for my KP9's |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 11:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do rather like my VZ58. One of these days I'm going to get a "Not an AK" shirt with a VZ on it. I totally forgot about the Galil too. Great rifles. Love the one I built. Or OP could go to the moon and get a M76 Valmet. Mmm. A Valmet of some form is my dream rifle |
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Posted: 7/15/2023 11:29:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's coming after 101. I'm in waitlist. I've been nothing short of impressed with all my KUSA firearms and they even did the free firing pin upgrade for my KP9's That’s awesome, I’ve never handlers one of their firearms but I’ve also not heard anything bad about them |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:11:43 PM EDT
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Does the optic on the Beryl sit lower than a regular AK optic on a side mount?
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:15:10 PM EDT
[#15]
 Why not a Swiss one? |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAre they even importing them anymore? |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:37:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they even importing them anymore? Through JDI I believe. Real cheap too 
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Through JDI I believe. Real cheap too KAC money for a Swiss AK and the importer's goecities product page goes nowhere  A 553R is one of my grail guns
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:54:29 PM EDT
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For $1600 if you don't plan on shooting it much, I think the PSA option that takes AR mags makes the most sense. My experience with 556 AKs.. they like steel case ammo and mangle brass cased ammo which might matter if you like to reload.
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Posted: 7/16/2023 4:58:20 PM EDT
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I am quite fond of my PSA AK102 pistol SBR. I put some of Midwest's Alpha furniture on it.
As for mags, it uses AC Unity, Polish Radom (Beryl), and Circle 10s just fine. PSA is also developing their own. Mags for 5.56 AKs are no longer the issue they used to be in the past. 
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Posted: 7/16/2023 5:02:43 PM EDT
[#21]
SLR-106FR
Owned two of them never had any issues. Downside is they are damn pricey now. |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 5:05:05 PM EDT
[#22]
I would love a Swiss one but damn they are expensive. I also plan on getting a vz.58 eventually but I’ll probably go with 7.62 first. Damn that 102 is sexy I really like the short AKs. I’ll look more into the PSA 556 ar mag ak now thank you again everyone
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Posted: 7/16/2023 5:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SLR-106FR Owned two of them never had any issues. Downside is they are damn pricey now. Why did they stop importing the stamped rifles? |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 6:17:26 PM EDT
[#24]
I’m finding mixed things on the PSA AKs well mostly the 74s are they still iffy?
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Posted: 7/16/2023 6:59:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am quite fond of my PSA AK102 pistol SBR. I put some of Midwest's Alpha furniture on it. As for mags, it uses AC Unity, Polish Radom (Beryl), and Circle 10s just fine. PSA is also developing their own. Mags for 5.56 AKs are no longer the issue they used to be in the past. https://i.imgur.com/J4gV181.jpg I won't lie, that is damn good looking, I think I just got hot flashes. |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 7:11:43 PM EDT
[#26]
I would go with a Valmet 76.
Tony Rumore Tromix |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 7:14:11 PM EDT
[#27]
Get a galil.
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Posted: 7/16/2023 7:15:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would go with a Valmet 76. Tony Rumore Tromix i just came to say this. |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 7:18:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Anyone know if the Zastava M92’s are going to skyrocket in value now?
Asking for a friend…….. |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 8:02:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Then there's the world of boutique high-end AK options too
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Posted: 7/16/2023 8:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then there's the world of boutique high-end AK options too https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/RDNATOAK-2641184.jpg Damn it and the triangle stocks get me every freaking time I love them |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 7:39:13 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I’m finding mixed things on the PSA AKs well mostly the 74s are they still iffy? As for the 5.56 AKs, my 102 was one of the first that released to the wild. I had to send it back for a weak extractor spring and it's ran like a top since and has a thousand rounds through it. AK Operator Union has videos up regarding his 102. Evidently it's his truck/ranger gun around the farm and has several thousand rounds through it with no issues. Their GF3 and GF5 are fantastic and even r/AK47 on Reddit will tell you they're GTG and they fucking hate PSA with a fiery passion. If you do end up getting one and it shits the bed for some reason, PSA is really, really good about making it right. Hopefully you never have to use it the life-time warranty, though. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 7:40:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't lie, that is damn good looking, I think I just got hot flashes. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 7:55:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Id also add that the new production PSA 5.56 AK mags actually run well. Some early ones had messed up followers, but the new ones have been good to go.
Unfortunately, I cant say te same for thr PSA AK101 I bought. My smith had to open the gas port to get it to run anything other than very hot ammo. Now it runs steel garbage. PSA AK-101  Arsenal SLR-106CR 
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:06:30 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Id also add that the new production PSA 5.56 AK mags actually run well. Some early ones had messed up followers, but the new ones have been good to go. Unfortunately, I cant say te same for thr PSA AK101 I bought. My smith had to open the gas port to get it to run anything other than very hot ammo. Now it runs steel garbage. PSA AK-101 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674126506720624650/1113072441372180552/20230524_182435.jpg Arsenal SLR-106CR https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577962245968101378/1128047061275771050/IMG_20230709_171713_715.jpg |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:30:27 AM EDT
[#36]
In-house mags. I bought one before the follower issue was fixed, they sent me a new one free. I fixed the old follower so now I have 2
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:33:23 AM EDT
[#37]
I'd just go with the Beryl.
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Posted: 7/17/2023 8:37:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In-house mags. I bought one before the follower issue was fixed, they sent me a new one free. I fixed the old follower so now I have 2 Good of PSA to send you the replacement as well. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 12:17:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Thank you everyone
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Posted: 7/17/2023 12:25:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve had my SLR-106FR since 2007, and I had the forethought to buy a small pile of Bulgarian waffle mags back then too. The mags are the real consideration… and I’d maybe go with the Beryl/Mini Beryl these days. The SAM5 AR-M5F is pretty cool too though. Get some AC Unity 5.56 mags for your 106… Work fine, and cost like $15 or less. No more worries about cracking an expensive Bulgarian mag. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 12:31:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2023 12:39:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: Get some AC Unity 5.56 mags for your 106… Work fine, and cost like $15 or less. No more worries about cracking an expensive Bulgarian mag. Yep the ACU mags are very good, and there are also cheap mags from WBP and PSA now. The mag issue is a non starter these days for any of the currently available 5.56 AKs on the market. 5.56 AKs are great fun... don't listen to the trash can gun haters  
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:02:21 PM EDT
[#43]
@Jman_JJE @palmettostatearmory
PLEASE make a PSA AK-102/AK-101 with a 13.7"/14.5" 1/2x28 barrel!! 
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:11:04 PM EDT
[#44]
I'm liking my PSA AK101 with side folder so far. The fact that it runs great on cheap AC Unity mags is nice, since 5.56 AK mags don't have a universal pattern and not all of them will work in every 5.56 AK.
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:13:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Build a Time Machine and get an M95A. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/139672/13A1D36F-EF80-4744-8209-2583612FF53F-2698224.jpg Had a few of these, they are very nice (for an AK  ) 
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:19:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I may take flak for this, but I’m waiting for the KUSA 101 to come out. Very excited about that release. However, I’m in the process of building a 5.56 side folder 12.5” AK. Gonna be sweet. I was waiting for the KUSA 101 as well, but got impatient and jumped on the PSA offering. I'll probably get a KUSA if they ever come out, if for no other reason than to complete the Century Series set, but it's far from a top priority now. |
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:37:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get some AC Unity 5.56 mags for your 106… Work fine, and cost like $15 or less. No more worries about cracking an expensive Bulgarian mag. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’ve had my SLR-106FR since 2007, and I had the forethought to buy a small pile of Bulgarian waffle mags back then too. The mags are the real consideration… and I’d maybe go with the Beryl/Mini Beryl these days. The SAM5 AR-M5F is pretty cool too though. Get some AC Unity 5.56 mags for your 106… Work fine, and cost like $15 or less. No more worries about cracking an expensive Bulgarian mag. Yup. I have one double circle 10 that works in the PSA 101, but never use it as they're so damn expensive now. $15 AC Unity mags are the PMAG of the 5.56 AK world
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:43:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:45:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Having owned some of the major guns mentioned in this thread, here are my thoughts.
FB Radom Beryl - they’re decent, but there’s a few catches. In my opinion they are somewhat niche and best for Polish Army wz96 cloning or just doing the bare minimum (optic) only. Accessories like Polish optic rails, handguards and stocks are periodically unavailable and hard to find. The mini is annoying because you need a gunsmith to swap the rear trunnion in order to SBR it. You may run into furniture/accessory compatibility issues if using aftermarket stuff on the full size or mini. Overall if you want one now, now is a good time because they are being offered with bayonet lugs instead of the neutered configuration they previously came in. If you can stomach the wait for accessories. Arsenal - unless you have to have a modern milled Bulgarian in the collection, they aren’t that great for the money. Maybe 10 years ago, but now they’ve jacked prices up, suffer from QC issues (ie overgassed SAM5s shooting themselves to parts failure), and their customer service isn’t there - they would rather threaten to sue online forums over quality complaints. If you must, buy used and save, or find a stamped or older milled gun for a reasonable price. 
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Posted: 7/17/2023 2:57:45 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm really liking my Zastava M85. SBR'd it, installed a KNS adjustable piston and a Keymo muzzle adapter to fit suppressors. Zastava mags work extremely well and have LRBHO. I hear that AC Unity mags work equally well.
It's a heavy gun but built like a tank with 1.5mm bulged trunnion, CHF, chrome lined barrel, etc. They may dry up soon so get yourself an M85 and a M92. You can always sell them later if you want. |
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