Off the top of my head, it was likely the result of a classified program evaluating using the paranormal, psychic abilities, or remote viewing for intelligence gathering.

There are a number of copper discs and such that have been found in the Midwest and upper South. From memory, I believe they are associated with Cahokia and the "Mound Builders". Some have even been found in Arkansas.

Well, no shit.

The sun is the most massive thing in our stellar system. By definition, "down" is toward the sun within its gravity well - so everything new must be "up".

Dinosaur bones are planted by the Devil?

<<< Catholic, BTW.

Wait until y'all learn about what the Hyperboreans accomplished during the last Ice Age.

This is what Big Arceology (aka Klaus Schwab et al) don't want you to know about.

That’s more advanced than modern Sweden. What went wrong?

Ohio mound builders had copper and mica artifacts. I think serpent mound is the recreation of a sperm cell viewed under a microscope.

They only destroyed the males.

Is that the Aesir or the Vanir?

I've read that they didn't get along too well with their Cimmerian neighbors.

Couple of interesting articles
artnet/news
architecture digest's version

Oldest wooden structure found, dated to 476,000 years ago. For those who aren't aware, homo sapiens as a species is believed to have emerged 300,000 years ago, meaning this wooden structure is older than we are as a species by quite a bit. And the 300,000 year old mark is calculated not from any actual finding of objects or bones etc, but through genetic drift calculations. While I don't think genetic drift calculations are truly reliable, I do think they are accurate enough that they shouldn't result in a 50% error after only a few hundred thousand years. So they found a building that is older than homo sapiens, so who built it?

Older homos.

The original research paper of the pyramid they found and investigated, including with ground penetrating radar and carbon dating in Indonesia. Lots of photos, it is 100% man made.

Geo-archaeological prospecting of Gunung Padang buried prehistoric pyramid in West Java, Indonesia

Journal: Archaeological Prospection

First published: 20 October 2023

Abstract:
The multidisciplinary study of Gunung Padang has revealed compelling evidence of a complex and sophisticated megalithic site. Correlations between rock stratifications observed through surface exposures, trenching and core logs, combined with GPR facies, ERT layers, and seismic tomograms, demonstrate the presence of multi-layer constructions spanning approximately 20–30?m. Notably, a high-resistive anomaly in electric resistivity tomography aligns with a low-velocity anomaly detected in seismic tomography, indicating the existence of hidden cavities or chambers within the site. Additionally, drilling operations revealed significant water loss, further supporting the presence of underground spaces. Radiocarbon dating of organic soils from the structures uncovered multiple construction stages dating back thousands of years BCE, with the initial phase dating to the Palaeolithic era. These findings offer valuable insights into the construction history of Gunung Padang, shedding light on the engineering capabilities of ancient civilizations during the Palaeolithic era.

Conclusion:
4.1 Gunung Padang is a multi-layered prehistoric pyramid

This study strongly suggests that Gunung Padang is not a natural hill but a pyramid-like construction. The pyramid's core consists of meticulously sculpted massive andesite lava (Unit 4), enveloped by layers of rock constructions (Unit 3, Unit 2 and Unit 1). The carbon dating analysis further supports the multi-layer construction's long history, spanning successive periods.

The oldest construction, Unit 4, likely originated as a natural lava hill before being sculpted and then architecturally enveloped during the last glacial period between 25?000 and 14?000?BCE. (Figure 14). Afterward, Gunung Padang was abandoned by the first builders for thousands of years, leading to significant weathering. Around 7900–6100?BCE, Unit 3 was deliberately buried with substantial soil fills. Approximately a millennium later, between 6000 and 5500?BCE, a subsequent builder arrived at Gunung Padang and constructed Unit 2. Lastly, the final builder arrived between 2000 and 1100?BCE, constructing Unit 1.

It is intriguing to note that during the construction of Unit 1, Unit 2 likely remained relatively intact and well preserved. However, in a peculiar turn of events, Unit 2 was subsequently buried, possibly to conceal its true identity for preservation purposes. As a result, Unit 2 now lies concealed beneath Unit 1, which comprises simple superficial stone terraces or punden berundak representing the latest visible manifestation of Gunung Padang.

Concluding remarks and further studies

This study sheds light on advanced masonry skills dating back to the last glacial period. This finding challenges the conventional belief that human civilization and the development of advanced construction techniques emerged only during the warm period of the early Holocene or the beginning of the Neolithic, with the advent of agriculture approximately 11?000?years ago (Harari, 2014). However, evidence from Gunung Padang and other sites, such as Gobekli Tepe, suggests that advanced construction practices were already present when agriculture had, perhaps, not yet been invented.

The builders of Unit 3 and Unit 2 at Gunung Padang must have possessed remarkable masonry capabilities, which do not align with the traditional hunter-gatherer cultures. The burial of these structures around 9000?years ago adds further intrigue for reasons not fully understood. Given the long and continuous occupation of Gunung Padang, it is reasonable to speculate that this site held significant importance, attracting ancient people to repeatedly occupy and modify it.

To further advance our knowledge of Gunung Padang, it is essential for future research to undertake comprehensive and systematic excavations that delve into the characteristics of Unit 2, Unit 3 and Unit 4, as well as their cultural significance. Employing advanced geophysical imaging techniques and directional drilling can prove instrumental in exploring underground structures, including potential chambers. In the event of encountering a chamber during drilling operations, the use of downhole cameras can provide valuable visual documentation. Furthermore, conducting more extensive radiometric dating studies will contribute to obtaining precise age estimates for the constructions, enhancing our understanding of their historical timelines.

Gunung Padang stands as a remarkable testament, potentially being the oldest pyramid in the world. Further investigation and interdisciplinary research will uncover its hidden secrets and shed more light on the ancient civilizations that thrived in this enigmatic site.

The earth is only 6000 years old.

Well, no they weren't.

I doubt a high technology civilization existed before us.  But I think it's reasonable to believe that civilization existed way back before known history.    The difference between us and them is we harnesses electricity.  We control our environment rather than adapt to it.  

A civilization tens or even hundreds of thousands of years ago could be wiped off the map from catastrophic events such as meter or comet impacts that drastically change climate. Think nuclear winter with no electricity.  No civilization would survive that.    Nasty virus could also take out 90 percent us humanity and destroy civilization if they hadn't invented a microscope and learned about viruses bacteria ect.  

Our technology would allow civilization to last through everything but a mass earth extinction and we might even survive that as long as we were somewhat prepared .  Food can be grown in green houses.  Warmth can be generated indoors.  As long as we have the means to generate power well survive damn near anything.  

It seems odd to me that civilization wouldn't exist for hundreds of thousands of years with earlier humans having the same intelligence we have.  Civilization would just be very fragile without current technology.  Could have been several resets that the earth swallowed up evidence of over thousands of years.

Anybody follow boneyardalaska on Instagram? Awesome stuff on there, he is calling bullshit on a lot of their "facts" as well.

Finally got a chance to read that. It seems that wooden structure predates the first known homo migration to Texas.

All this could revise what anthropology currently knows about homo migration patterns that continue to this day!

This pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.

Do I have proof?  No
Am I fond of the idea?  Yes
Is it probable?  I think so

And garbage. Tons and tons of garbage accompanied every civilization that has ever existed and that will ever exist.

That's how the pyramids were constructed ; literally carved out of a mountain or hill . The blocks were not stacked ....just carved out to look that way ....test of it sent down the river .

The fact that you are progeny, speaks to this perfectly. Or a pregnancy went undetected and assumed to be the HorseLords.

I like to believe the former.

I did, I was genuinely interested in what they were finding, but his insufferable teasing about what he is finding, blue tubs, and how academia screwed the company over turned me off.

It’s a giant safe thread. He quite likely is sitting a massive piece of the puzzle we are discussing and he’s playing games.

I hope something comes out of the cut bones he found.

That genetic drift dating stuff is based on "what we see now" type stuff.  The problem is getting genetic samples from "then" is really rare.  There hasn't been adequate calibration for humans or any other species yet to count on it.  For fucks sake, humans do self-organized selective breeding like we do to dogs.

Also, being human is not a switch where you can say "boom there's one" and it's distinct. There are people wandering around Walmart right now that are basically fucking Neanderthals. Humans could very well be much older and what they looked at was just late bloomers.

Don't be thinking those metrics are what they say.

They probably tried using the Danish system for numbers

Within the first 5 sentences, I knew this was a dumb Graham Hancock or Hancock-adjacent claim. Oh look, it was exactly that. "Big archeology"

Real archeology: "This site has XYZ evidence. Here are conclusions we draw from it."

Hancock archeology: "This site lacks ABC evidence. Therefore, the only possible answer can be aliens/pre-cambrian humans/the nephalem yadda yadda despite no actual evidence being present to support that claim."

We conservatives have become so gullible and lacking in critical thought in the last few years. We've let our (righteous) disdain for academia, climate change, and FDA "science" overcome all of our faculties to the point that we buy into every dumb counterclaim conspiracy posted by outright hucksters and conmen, including Hancock and his sycophants, as long as they point at some bad guy with the words "Big" or "Mainstream" in them.

The rocks at the site are old. They are relatively organized. That is not enough evidence to conclude that the entire body of archeological study to date is wrong.

Now that you've read the book, are there any portions that you take exception to?

That picture to me indicates recent geological activity created a bulge.

Trees grow straight up not at angles even on inclines. I'm thinking that was flat land not too long ago and something under the surface pushed it up "recently".

Or it's just a really good photoshop.

Biggest thing about that;

People have game theoried diverting asteroids that have the potential for devastating impacts, but what chance would we have against a shotgun blast like that?

Yes but possibly phrased differently

Pre 'sapiens' were people too. Quite sapient.

Hancock gets a bad rap. He's inarguably a better speculative author than journalist. And enjoyable, if you take it for what it is. Part of his appeal is his casting himself the outsider and truth keeper.

The problem is less with Graham than discernment in general, but that's not a recent or localized trend.

Graham himself will state he was high as a kite on weed, 24/7, for decades.

It’s okay though, he put down the pot needle and took up hallucinogenics.

Ayahuasca will clear this confusion right up.

Finnish admixture.

Well, you see there was this guy named Noah....

NEXT TIME it will be an asteroid.  Revelation 8.

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Oh. I’d see how that’s a problem. I’m proud of you for admitting to it. That takes courage.

Spell out 1658 in Danish.

It explains my autistic streak.

No, that’s from the lead in the tins of all that canned fish.

In that case I won't be hiring him to run any heavy equipment.

No lead, only botulism and cadmium.

"Ancient Apocalypse" is on Netflix.  

This is a multi-episode, Gordon Hancock show.  He does not claim to be an archaeologist but is a reporter, so don't forget that.

The show discusses Dunung Padang (the Indonesia site), as well as Gobekii Tepe, the various Mexican and North American sites.

I found it entertaining and informative.

He's a fun guy

The fact the most zealous of his audience fails to factor is kinda my point.

There is a show on netflixs that talks about and shows this structure

It is called Ancient Apocalypse.  Apparently using ground radar, they are voids inside this structure.

There is a fair amount of evidence that there was at least one civilized human society before the last major ice age that was destroyed by something either before or during the last major ice age.