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Link Posted: 12/15/2023 1:51:26 AM EDT
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Fed LE...we dont follow that. We go where/how we need to go to do what we need to do.

I fly all the time. Weekly sometimes...and I have a take home car.
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Yup. And my truck will be driving or idling for a full 12 hours!  
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 2:37:38 AM EDT
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"no law respecting the establishment of religion"

but you can bet that if Republicans had suggested that all Federal employees needed to take environmentally sound vehicles because of something in the Bible, the Democrats would have been in favor of removing all emissions controls
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:16:18 AM EDT
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Where I work (Military base) they tried EV's for the squadron vehicles on a limited basis.
The transportation people got tired of having to pay to either send someone out to charge up the vehicle or to have a tow-truck hook the vehicle and tow it to a charging station.
On base there are no vehicle stands with charging stations with the exception of the transportation building and the maintenance facility that's located on a different base.
They do use the cheap trucks and vans that use the 110 regular plug-in's.
However, none of the hangars have external weatherproof outlets, so they all plug into the outlets inside of the hangar using a couple hundred feet of extension cables.
That works OK until someone kicks the cord into the hangar door tracks and they get cut when the door is opened or closed.
People routinely unplug them from the wall.

7 years ago the base built a large covered carport covered with solar panels.
The carport was to have EV charging stations in it that were powered by the solar panels.
This parking lot is where the junior sailors park and where the civilians park.
Base legal came out with a "ruling" that POV's (civilian and Military personnel) were not allowed to use the facility due to the fact that it was not built with MWR funds.
You can go to the building where the solar power is converted to EV charging use and hear it humming away on a sunny day.
There are no power panels or cords at the stalls.


Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:39:38 AM EDT
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LOL Amtrak is a good example of the worst way to travel that you pay for.
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Link Posted: 12/15/2023 5:23:09 AM EDT
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How about all Feds and special envoys must fly coach instead of private jets ?   Save Gaia AND be with their constituents?
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 8:45:18 AM EDT
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Where I work (Military base) they tried EV's for the squadron vehicles on a limited basis.
The transportation people got tired of having to pay to either send someone out to charge up the vehicle or to have a tow-truck hook the vehicle and tow it to a charging station.
On base there are no vehicle stands with charging stations with the exception of the transportation building and the maintenance facility that's located on a different base.
They do use the cheap trucks and vans that use the 110 regular plug-in's.
However, none of the hangars have external weatherproof outlets, so they all plug into the outlets inside of the hangar using a couple hundred feet of extension cables.
That works OK until someone kicks the cord into the hangar door tracks and they get cut when the door is opened or closed.
People routinely unplug them from the wall.

7 years ago the base built a large covered carport covered with solar panels.
The carport was to have EV charging stations in it that were powered by the solar panels.
This parking lot is where the junior sailors park and where the civilians park.
Base legal came out with a "ruling" that POV's (civilian and Military personnel) were not allowed to use the facility due to the fact that it was not built with MWR funds.
You can go to the building where the solar power is converted to EV charging use and hear it humming away on a sunny day.
There are no power panels or cords at the stalls.


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Our government needs cut by about 96%
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 8:48:12 AM EDT
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Remove ac from federal buildings and watch the fatties pass our
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 8:48:53 AM EDT
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Based on all the vaxxxed dead pilots I'll never fly again anyway, and I like to drive, so this really is immaterial to me.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 8:58:01 AM EDT
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I worked with a man who wouldn't fly.

He worked in CA and had to attend meetings in DC so he'd take the train back-n-forth taking 10 days to do the three day trip.



The guy was goofy as all fuck and within a year of his retirement he was in jail for bringing child porn into the US.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:05:06 AM EDT
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He worked in CA and had to attend meetings in DC so he'd take the train back-n-forth taking 10 days to do the three day trip.
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I drove from PA to SE AZ in 34 hours.  It's not a big deal.  

I like seeing the country since I don't travel except for work.  

Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:05:28 AM EDT
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Why would .fed workers need to travel?

Serious question.
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I was a federal employee for 40 years. In my last role I traveled to Fort Meade/DC about three or four times a year for classified training and meetings.

When you're getting 200-300 people together for 20 hours of top secret meetings it's far safer to bring the people together where everything is controllable.

For training the equipment and circuits that are in use can't be disturbed so we go to a training facility with training gear we can learn on without ruining people's days.

We have moved to virtual meetings for 98% of needs but we do still have to do the face-to-face things occasionally.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:09:05 AM EDT
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Train?

Sure pay multiple days of travel.

Dumb as usual from this administration.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:14:49 AM EDT
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Travel the most "sustainable way" when on official travel!  Location 250 miles or less from home and Amtrak is available?  Only trains allowed for you, don't even think about flying!  Need a rental car?  Better get that EV if it costs the same or less than an ICE rental!  Yay to saving Gaia/Mother Earth as a fed employee!!

Holy fuck, I'm more thankful by the day that I'm retired and no longer have to deal with that bullshit on top of the wokeness.

Moar.
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And you better make sure you are only doing business with companies that donate exclusively to woke Democrats and their causes.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:14:50 AM EDT
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Our facilities managers must have trained together.

Our facilities department spent close to $100,000 to cut open the parking lot and install four charging stations in the back of the lot. When everything was all done legal brought up concerns with the government paying for people's electrical power and how would we charge people for charging? Years later and the chargers still sit unused. Why facilities didn't get legal's opinion before is interesting.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:18:33 AM EDT
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I drove from PA to SE AZ in 34 hours.  It's not a big deal.  

I like seeing the country since I don't travel except for work.  

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Even better if you were making $87.93 an hour on that drive, plus $135 a day per diem, and getting $0.22 a mile like my GS-15 government employee.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:38:03 AM EDT
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There was a report yesterday I read, that 30% plus of those worthless government bums still working from home, in DC, Virginia and the likes.  Worthless government BUMs.  I bet 95%of them vote D for bigger government.  Selfish RATs.  Every last one of them should be fired.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:42:48 AM EDT
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Even better if you were making $87.93 an hour on that drive, plus $135 a day per diem, and getting $0.22 a mile like my GS-15 government employee.
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I drove from PA to SE AZ in 34 hours.  It's not a big deal.  

I like seeing the country since I don't travel except for work.  

Even better if you were making $87.93 an hour on that drive, plus $135 a day per diem, and getting $0.22 a mile like my GS-15 government employee.



Yeah.  That would have been nice.  It wasn't a work trip.  Our per diem rates are good.  But I'm not a 15 and never will be, and thank god for that.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:46:23 AM EDT
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Way too many fucking federal employees as it is.
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Yep, we need to start reducing the # of agencies.

We don't need a Dept. of Education, Dept. of Energy, Dept. of Transportation, DEA, TouchSomeArse, Ban All the Fun Everyday, rubber stamps like FDA, CFTC, SEC, disband the Eff Bee Eye, See Aye A, En Ess Ay and defund NPR, PBS, Arts what-not, Eye Are Ess, etc.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 10:34:08 AM EDT
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Our facilities managers must have trained together.

Our facilities department spent close to $100,000 to cut open the parking lot and install four charging stations in the back of the lot. When everything was all done legal brought up concerns with the government paying for people's electrical power and how would we charge people for charging? Years later and the chargers still sit unused. Why facilities didn't get legal's opinion before is interesting.
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Quoted:Where I work (Military base) they tried EV's for the squadron vehicles on a limited basis.


Our facilities managers must have trained together.

Our facilities department spent close to $100,000 to cut open the parking lot and install four charging stations in the back of the lot. When everything was all done legal brought up concerns with the government paying for people's electrical power and how would we charge people for charging? Years later and the chargers still sit unused. Why facilities didn't get legal's opinion before is interesting.

One post I know of wanted to put a solar roof over the parking lot to offer free EV charging during the Obama administration. They had the parking lot dug up for conduit, had the concrete poured for the roof supports to cover about 20% of the lot and the charging terminal locations, etc but no steel erected.
The union demanded the non-EV owners receive gas vouchers and the roof must cover the entire parking lot.
They ceased construction immediately.

Just recently the same post added eight solar roof spots (in a different lot) for government-only vehicles with a notice stating you will be disciplined if you charge your personal EV from them, and they added an extra camera for someone to watch them. The vehicles charge only via solar, there is no power run under the lot to them.

Kharn
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 12:04:15 PM EDT
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There was a report yesterday I read, that 30% plus of those worthless government bums still working from home, in DC, Virginia and the likes.  Worthless government BUMs.  I bet 95%of them vote D for bigger government.  Selfish RATs.  Every last one of them should be fired.
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Zero in my office.  One dude even has Parkinson’s and comes to work and works diligently every day.
In the DOD I suspect this number is wrong and may reflect those who can as a situational event. Most people are authorized in certain situations and jobs.


I online know of 2 people who actually do it.

Guess where they work?

EEO

Go figure
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 12:15:51 PM EDT
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Or any self appointed climate saviors?  Should mandate those fucks do everything via Zoom
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John Kerry’s private jet?

lol, take the train John boy.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 2:08:39 PM EDT
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Ok, FBI should travel on bicycles for trips less than 10 miles.  But the presidential limo sets a bad president.  He needs on that is wind up power.

The problem with solar powered EV charging is this. Level 2 AC chargers charge at about 10kwh (most are 40 amps at 240 - abet some can go up to 60 amps).  To get about 10kwh of solar panels, you need approximately 25 400 watt panels that are about 4'x6'.  Then you will get something between 4-6 "peak" hours of charging per day -  so you would be able to fully charge that EV in 2 days maybe.  So 4 parking spaces worth of panels can charge your vehicle fully in 2 days.

A few vehicles are set up double that rate of AC charging, but it was considered more power than the average home service could provide, so there is not many of them.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:17:01 PM EDT
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I once had to take Amtrak from Bakersfield to Del Rio, then hitchhike to San Angelo. Finance then informed me I'd have to refund a full day of per-diem for myself and my wife, because the train took longer than allotted in the JTFR. It's a train. It takes as long as it takes.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:25:36 PM EDT
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Make them turn the lights off and set the heat to just above freezing, too.
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That's already a thing. About 15 years ago bases started installing those lights that automatically turn off when no one is in the room. Well, when there's no one MOVING in the room for 5 minutes. Enough people got sick and tired of "giving the signal" every five minutes that they were shit-canned with a year or two.


Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:25:48 PM EDT
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I support this. Make them feel the pain of their own ideas.

Make the FBI ride the bus to every investigation. If a bus doesn't stop nearby they probably shouldn't have jurisdiction anyway.
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Just taking away fleet cars from the FBI would save thousands of baby whales.  They should also be required to live within walking distance to their offices.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 3:32:37 PM EDT
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Our facilities managers must have trained together.

Our facilities department spent close to $100,000 to cut open the parking lot and install four charging stations in the back of the lot. When everything was all done legal brought up concerns with the government paying for people's electrical power and how would we charge people for charging? Years later and the chargers still sit unused. Why facilities didn't get legal's opinion before is interesting.
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I bet the base commander was pissed they had to keep paying for their own "gas".
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 6:41:13 PM EDT
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LOL Amtrak is a good example of the worst way to travel that you pay for.
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Which is doubly sad as it could be the most comfortable and luxurious way to travel.

Rode the empire builder 23 years ago and got o the the best and worst Amtrak had to offer

The room was great. Our own shower and toilet
The food was excellent in the dining car
We left Cleveland 3 hours late and missed the train from Chicago to Portland due to track issues. Had to fly out

Coming home, the train left 4 hours late.
Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:11:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2023 9:13:19 PM EDT
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i actually support this.
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