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Link Posted: 7/28/2024 3:28:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By brass:


If he was given $1.5 million, why did he use about $1k worth of equipment?  Was it to be donated to a friend or family member or something?

Admitted/released content that he was in contact with some government agency prior?   Do they have a source for that or what?  It's just a computer narrated spam rant trying to look/sound official without any citation. It uses official news images and pictures of news anchors (NOT audio clips) to give the impression the information being read by computer originally came from MSM.

So, that pings my "may contain disinformation and BS" light.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By Socio:
According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nw


If he was given $1.5 million, why did he use about $1k worth of equipment?  Was it to be donated to a friend or family member or something?

Admitted/released content that he was in contact with some government agency prior?   Do they have a source for that or what?  It's just a computer narrated spam rant trying to look/sound official without any citation. It uses official news images and pictures of news anchors (NOT audio clips) to give the impression the information being read by computer originally came from MSM.

So, that pings my "may contain disinformation and BS" light.



I think you are right, I tried researching some of the claims, found this, but it has un-named sources, so likely not legit. Thomas Crooks Bank Accounts Overseas has $1.5 Million Cash SwitzerlandLinked to a shell corporation, contains $800,000
Cayman IslandsPossibly from cryptocurrency transactions, holds $500,000
SingaporeUnder scrutiny for connections to extremist groups, contains $200,000
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 3:29:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Socio:


I think you are right, I tried researching some of the claims, found this, but it has un-named sources, so likely not legit. Thomas Crooks Bank Accounts Overseas has $1.5 Million Cash SwitzerlandLinked to a shell corporation, contains $800,000
Cayman IslandsPossibly from cryptocurrency transactions, holds $500,000
SingaporeUnder scrutiny for connections to extremist groups, contains $200,000
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Originally Posted By Socio:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By Socio:
According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nw


If he was given $1.5 million, why did he use about $1k worth of equipment?  Was it to be donated to a friend or family member or something?

Admitted/released content that he was in contact with some government agency prior?   Do they have a source for that or what?  It's just a computer narrated spam rant trying to look/sound official without any citation. It uses official news images and pictures of news anchors (NOT audio clips) to give the impression the information being read by computer originally came from MSM.

So, that pings my "may contain disinformation and BS" light.



I think you are right, I tried researching some of the claims, found this, but it has un-named sources, so likely not legit. Thomas Crooks Bank Accounts Overseas has $1.5 Million Cash SwitzerlandLinked to a shell corporation, contains $800,000
Cayman IslandsPossibly from cryptocurrency transactions, holds $500,000
SingaporeUnder scrutiny for connections to extremist groups, contains $200,000


I'm not clicking the link, but I can see caclubinda.com oh yea, must be legit.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 3:30:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/28/2024 3:57:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Socio:
According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nw
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What a propaganda piece that is.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 4:25:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DM1975:


Yes, you would think that if there were a second shooter that they would have fired when the SS let Trump stand around and shake his fist while being “covered” by his oompa loompa agents.
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Maybe, but I doubt it, not enough time to get out of dodge, and if Crooks was a patsy, it would be obvious it wasn’t him after his head was blown off.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 4:30:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By doolyd:

Yes I am. This is all over.  1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact.  

Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed.

If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed.
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Originally Posted By mac130:
Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome.

Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please.

The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on.

Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation.

Yes I am. This is all over.  1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact.  

Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed.

If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed.


So what y’all are saying is you don’t have an open mind and want to believe the official narrative. I got it, take the blue pill and scurry off into fantasy land.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 4:45:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco:


So what y’all are saying is you don’t have an open mind and want to believe the official narrative. I got it, take the blue pill and scurry off into fantasy land.
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Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco:
Originally Posted By doolyd:
Originally Posted By mac130:
Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome.

Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please.

The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on.

Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation.

Yes I am. This is all over.  1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact.  

Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed.

If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed.


So what y’all are saying is you don’t have an open mind and want to believe the official narrative. I got it, take the blue pill and scurry off into fantasy land.


Sometimes things just are what things are. Talk about fantasy land? Every single thing that anyone has come up with about a second shooter has been pure fantasy. Sure, believe what you want, and I agree that everything should be questioned, but I have not seen or heard of one single thing that would lead me to believe there was a second shooter. It’s completely ridiculous and to me shows how gullible people are to swallow the bait on a lot of this bullshit. Same thing with the idiots who think Trump had it all staged. If there was a second shooter than please please please show me one single shred of credible evidence, but there is none. Just bullshit theories at this point.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 5:04:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


I am highly skeptical.

Somehow a comment from law enforcement that he had several email accounts that we hosted in foreign countries, has magically turned into him having bank accounts in foreign counties, and has now magically turned into bank accounts in foreign countries with millions of dollars in them.  Anything is POSSIBLE, I guess, that that doesn't really pass the smell test to me.

Having emails accounts hosted in foreign countries is hardly unusual.  Lots of people use things like proton mail, which I think is hosted in Switzerland.  That's a very common email host for people to use for personal email, and there's nothing particular unusual or nefarious about it.  

Sounds like total BS, made up by people who want clicks and views from the gullible conspiracy crowd.  That's how the internet works these days.  
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Yeah, I never put much attention to the "foreign accounts" revelation. I use proton mail, yes it's based in Switzerland. It's not unusual. My brother said something about it last week and I just told him it really doesn't mean much.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 5:36:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco:


So what y’all are saying is you don’t have an open mind and want to believe the official narrative. I got it, take the blue pill and scurry off into fantasy land.
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Where would you place yourself on this bell curve?

Link Posted: 7/28/2024 5:55:38 PM EST
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Where would you place yourself on this bell curve?

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.01.
It's our only path right now.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 6:01:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DM1975:


Sometimes things just are what things are. Talk about fantasy land? Every single thing that anyone has come up with about a second shooter has been pure fantasy. Sure, believe what you want, and I agree that everything should be questioned, but I have not seen or heard of one single thing that would lead me to believe there was a second shooter. It’s completely ridiculous and to me shows how gullible people are to swallow the bait on a lot of this bullshit. Same thing with the idiots who think Trump had it all staged. If there was a second shooter than please please please show me one single shred of credible evidence, but there is none. Just bullshit theories at this point.
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No one is saying they’re not, and I don’t think anyone has definitively said there’s a second shooter, just that there could be and it explains some anomalies, bare minimum he had help by his fed handlers and was allowed to do it, also there could be one shooter and Crooks didn’t even fire a shot, shell cases from one of his range trips planted.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 6:26:56 PM EST
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several references to the shooter, USSS:



Link Posted: 7/28/2024 6:37:15 PM EST
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several references to the shooter, USSS:

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"Drool runnings to cool runnings"

"Warhawk Tuah"

"Herpe Potter"


Link Posted: 7/28/2024 7:19:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco:
No one is saying they’re not, and I don’t think anyone has definitively said there’s a second shooter, just that there could be and it explains some anomalies, bare minimum he had help by his fed handlers and was allowed to do it, also there could be one shooter and Crooks didn’t even fire a shot, shell cases from one of his range trips planted.
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So what's the reasoning behind that? Crooks sacrificed himself so that another shooter from a much farther position could take the shot?
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 7:47:47 PM EST
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So what's the reasoning behind that? Crooks sacrificed himself so that another shooter from a much farther position could take the shot?
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A patsy thinks he’s part of a plan, not realizing that his handlers intend to use him as the fall guy. I think it’s unlikely he didn’t shoot, but I was commenting on your statement that there couldn’t be two shooters, so in that scenario there wouldn’t be as Crooks may have froze up when the shots started, already knowing he’s spotted and Trump had been covered. I don’t get the reasoning that there couldn’t be two shooters, there isn’t even any eyewitnesses or videos of Crooks shooting, let alone of anyone in one of those buildings with a clear view. I don’t think based on the audio the first 3 shots came from the water tower or a long distance.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 7:54:01 PM EST
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Google's Autocomplete function provides no further results about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, leading conservatives to accuse the web giant of election tampering.

The tech giant has been accused by conservatives of interfering in elections dating back to 2008, with the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression in 2020 leading many on the right irate.

Now, those who enter the terms 'the assassination attempt of' into the system, the attempt on the life of Donald Trump just two weeks ago doesn't show up via Autocomplete.

Roger Marshall, a Republican Senator from Kansas, announced Sunday night that he's launching an Congressional inquiry into the company.

The news also reached Donald Trump Jr. who issued a blistering statement on X regarding the omission.


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Link Posted: 7/28/2024 9:02:37 PM EST
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1984 shit right there
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 10:38:42 PM EST
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New video. Looking for a gunman and nobody is on their radios calling for Trump to get off the stage

INCREDIBLE! NEW Footage Trump Rally Shooting! - @trump #rally #thomascrooks #update #breakingnews
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 10:49:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/28/2024 11:08:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
New video. Looking for a gunman and nobody is on their radios calling for Trump to get off the stage

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BEAT

That's a good one.
Link Posted: 7/28/2024 11:24:21 PM EST
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Trump countersnipers' text messages before assassination attempt reveal how gunman was one step ahead of Secret Service and local law enforcement



A series of bombshell text messages from countersnipers who were supposed to protect Donald Trump at the Pennsylvania rally where an assassin's bullet nearly killed the president showed them a step behind the gunman.

A massive inquiry has started in the wake of the attempt, which Trump miraculously survived, with the resignation of Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle coming soon after the July 13 shooting.

Now, it appears a group chat of those meant to protect Trump were aware that gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was in their midst over 90 minutes before Trump was shot at, rather than an hour as the FBI had previously claimed.

When one of the three countersnipers was about to call off at the end of their shift at around 4:26pm, they noticed a man who they later confirmed to be Crooks sitting on a picnic table.

'Guys I am out. Be safe,' he wrote. 'Someone followed our lead and snuck in and parked by our cars just so you know. I'm just letting you know because you see me go out with my rifle and put it in my car so he knows you guys are up there,' he wrote.







He added that Crooks was 'sitting to the direct right on a picnic table about 50 yards from the exit' in a message sent at 4:27pm, a little over 90 minutes before the gunman fired.



The two other counter-snipers responded with a thumbs up emoji and a 'Roger that' according to the texts, which were obtained by the New York Times from local law enforcement.

Another screenshot is timed at around 5:38pm, after Crooks left the picnic table and was beneath the countersnipers, who had perched themselves in a warehouse.

One of the two remaining snipers photographed Crooks multiple times and texted the pictures to the group chat.

'Kid learning around building we are in,' one wrote. 'I did see him with a range finder looking towards stage. FYI. If you wanna notify SS snipers to look out. I lost sight of him.'



Witnesses reported having seen Crooks crawling onto the roof of the American Glass Research building.

At 5:40pm, the other countersnipers tells them to call in the report of Crooks. Within the next half hour, the gunman would be dead and Trump would be photograph with blood coming from the area around his ear.





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Yep... I posted this earlier. Video made on my laptop.



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Brave has him banned too



You have to go as far as the M to get a suggestion

Link Posted: 7/29/2024 1:41:16 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/29/2024 2:40:33 AM EST
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brave is just an API front end to bing search.  They filter it an anonymize it a little but it's not a standalone search engine.  Whenever bing goes down, so does brave.

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Is there a non-commie search engine?
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 3:45:11 AM EST
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Who else has seen this audio analysis?  Seems to me it clearly shows evidence of 3 different rifles being fired.

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1814398580154872092?s=19

Link Posted: 7/29/2024 4:22:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jeeper44mag:
Who else has seen this audio analysis?  Seems to me it clearly shows evidence of 3 different rifles being fired.

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FYI. There are sperate discussions apparently on that from over a week ago.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Deep-audio-analysis-of-assassination-attempt/5-2737589/
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PhD-s-Scientific-Analysis-Of-Trump-Bullet-Audio-Signatures-REVEALS-TWO-SHOOTERS/5-2737586/

There has been various comments about multiple shooters since the shooting first happened. References to various audio analysis have been posted many pages back in this fast moving discussion.

And fixed the link to embed the twitter post:
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 4:28:09 AM EST
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FYI. There are sperate discussions apparently on that from over a week ago.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Deep-audio-analysis-of-assassination-attempt/5-2737589/
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PhD-s-Scientific-Analysis-Of-Trump-Bullet-Audio-Signatures-REVEALS-TWO-SHOOTERS/5-2737586/

There has been various comments about multiple shooters since the shooting first happened. References to various audio analysis have been posted many pages back in this fast moving discussion.

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I seriously doubt that there was anyone shooting at President Trump other then 20 year old they killed.
Coordination between two different shooters would be almost impossible as the shooter had to rush fire when he was spotted on the rooftop.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 5:39:55 AM EST
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Duckduckgo also

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Link Posted: 7/29/2024 6:00:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Trump countersnipers' text messages before assassination attempt reveal how gunman was one step ahead of Secret Service and local law enforcement



A series of bombshell text messages from countersnipers who were supposed to protect Donald Trump at the Pennsylvania rally where an assassin's bullet nearly killed the president showed them a step behind the gunman.

A massive inquiry has started in the wake of the attempt, which Trump miraculously survived, with the resignation of Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle coming soon after the July 13 shooting.

Now, it appears a group chat of those meant to protect Trump were aware that gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was in their midst over 90 minutes before Trump was shot at, rather than an hour as the FBI had previously claimed.

When one of the three countersnipers was about to call off at the end of their shift at around 4:26pm, they noticed a man who they later confirmed to be Crooks sitting on a picnic table.

'Guys I am out. Be safe,' he wrote. 'Someone followed our lead and snuck in and parked by our cars just so you know. I'm just letting you know because you see me go out with my rifle and put it in my car so he knows you guys are up there,' he wrote.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/29/01/87881567-13682279-image-a-2_1722213631402.jpg




He added that Crooks was 'sitting to the direct right on a picnic table about 50 yards from the exit' in a message sent at 4:27pm, a little over 90 minutes before the gunman fired.



The two other counter-snipers responded with a thumbs up emoji and a 'Roger that' according to the texts, which were obtained by the New York Times from local law enforcement.

Another screenshot is timed at around 5:38pm, after Crooks left the picnic table and was beneath the countersnipers, who had perched themselves in a warehouse.

One of the two remaining snipers photographed Crooks multiple times and texted the pictures to the group chat.

'Kid learning around building we are in,' one wrote. 'I did see him with a range finder looking towards stage. FYI. If you wanna notify SS snipers to look out. I lost sight of him.'



Witnesses reported having seen Crooks crawling onto the roof of the American Glass Research building.

At 5:40pm, the other countersnipers tells them to call in the report of Crooks. Within the next half hour, the gunman would be dead and Trump would be photograph with blood coming from the area around his ear.


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Interesting bit from the article.  Don't remember him saying this in the hearing, but I didn't listen to the entire thing.

Wray said Crooks used mechanical equipment on the ground and vertical piping, to hoist himself up onto the roof of a squat manufacturing building that was within 135 meters (157 yards) of the stage.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 6:56:00 AM EST
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I seriously doubt that there was anyone shooting at President Trump other then 20 year old they killed.
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There have been no reports of him having any radio com gear. A cell can be used as a brick so that is an option. Hell, my Apple Watch has that as a feature.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 7:05:36 AM EST
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There have been no reports of him having any radio com gear. A cell can be used as a brick so that is an option. Hell, my Apple Watch has that as a feature.
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Originally Posted By MADMAXXX:
I seriously doubt that there was anyone shooting at President Trump other then 20 year old they killed.
Coordination between two different shooters would be almost impossible as the shooter had to rush fire when he was spotted on the rooftop.

There have been no reports of him having any radio com gear. A cell can be used as a brick so that is an option. Hell, my Apple Watch has that as a feature.


People ran with the acoustic signature difference too much.  The first 3 aimed shots ejected on the opposite roof side as Crooks was higher for the Trump target.  Crooks then got down low for more a spray and pray and conceal better from counter snipers.  That metal surface and slight slope totally altered the sound.  Now, I'll keep an open mind to who knew and communicated with Crooks prior.  The IEDs/lack of EOD and van are conveniently not being discussed.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 7:24:32 AM EST
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New video. Looking for a gunman and nobody is on their radios calling for Trump to get off the stage

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Based on this new video which clearly shows a lot of LE  all around this building before, during and after the shots were fired. I now think it would have been extremely difficult for anyone to plant any shell casings by Crookes. So I am leaning towards him being the only shooter. Amazing it takes this long for some information to actually come out.  The audio analysis of the shots had me leaning the other way for over a week now. But with almost 20-30 LE looking up there at a dead Crookes immediately in the aftermath I say that clears up a lot in my mind.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 7:38:45 AM EST
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2nd shooter theories = deep state misinformation
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Well, yeah...
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 8:15:34 AM EST
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Here is a very compelling audio and TRAJECTORY analysis video that throws weight behind a ONE SHOOTER theory.



Basically, given LOS, elevation angles and attendees hit... Things only line up if the shooter is where we originally placed him.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 8:20:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Advance:
Here is a very compelling audio and TRAJECTORY analysis video that throws weight behind a ONE SHOOTER theory.



Basically, given LOS, elevation angles and attendees hit... Things only line up if the shooter is where we originally placed him.
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Related:

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This video pointed me to the two above:

Trump Assassination Attempt - 2nd Shooter? Sniper on Water Tower? New Evidence That's Being Ignored!
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 8:49:02 AM EST
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Something a Fed would say.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 8:54:06 AM EST
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"Drool runnings to cool runnings"

"Warhawk Tuah"

"Herpe Potter"


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"Move over RFK, this November we have a new throat goat"
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 8:55:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Panta_Rei:


People ran with the acoustic signature difference too much.  The first 3 aimed shots ejected on the opposite roof side as Crooks was higher for the Trump target.  Crooks then got down low for more a spray and pray and conceal better from counter snipers.  That metal surface and slight slope totally altered the sound.  Now, I'll keep an open mind to who knew and communicated with Crooks prior.  The IEDs/lack of EOD and van are conveniently not being discussed.
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That’s a theory, no evidence for it though.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:14:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Advance:
Here is a very compelling audio and TRAJECTORY analysis video that throws weight behind a ONE SHOOTER theory.



Basically, given LOS, elevation angles and attendees hit... Things only line up if the shooter is where we originally placed him.
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Interesting. I think he makes assumptions about the the 8 shots not found in the audio analysis when they clearly sound slightly different. The trajectory analysis is as or more important but I think his flaw is using the position of the dead crooks when the one video of him on the roof right before the first shots is closer to the 2nd story building or to the right from Crooks’s view. After the 9th shot Crooks is said to be turning the audiences’ way, so he was moving and had a few seconds to change positions before being shot.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:20:23 AM EST
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It has been doing an acceptable job by forcing the appointed Kings to answer for their actions and/or prove ineptitude on their part.   If it weren't for her lack of testimony, the SS director probably wouldn't have resigned, for example.

We've gotten more post-attempt information from leaks and house/senate testimony (and requested info publicized) than any other source beyond what is seen on video recorded during the event.

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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day.

The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable.


Please detail to the class how the House is suppose to hold people accountable.

Better yet, if you were Speaker, what would you do besides, committees, hearings and grandstanding speeches that would boo'd by GD.

Maybe you'll pass some useless resolutions or propose dead bills, not pass some spending bill, just to be accused of political grandstanding and playing to your base; by posters like you.



It has been doing an acceptable job by forcing the appointed Kings to answer for their actions and/or prove ineptitude on their part.   If it weren't for her lack of testimony, the SS director probably wouldn't have resigned, for example.

We've gotten more post-attempt information from leaks and house/senate testimony (and requested info publicized) than any other source beyond what is seen on video recorded during the event.



Meanwhile, the literal hundreds of people under her are just going to keep doing what they were doing.

Nothing changes. But, there were some funny clips from the hearings.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:27:25 AM EST
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Interesting. I think he makes assumptions about the the 8 shots not found in the audio analysis when they clearly sound slightly different. The trajectory analysis is as or more important but I think his flaw is using the position of the dead crooks when the one video of him on the roof right before the first shots is closer to the 2nd story building or to the right from Crooks’s view. After the 9th shot Crooks is said to be turning the audiences’ way, so he was moving and had a few seconds to change positions before being shot.
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In this particular case, if the casings were left undisturbed, they are an extremely reliable indicator of the shooter's location throughout the two strings of fire.
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:37:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Advance:


In this particular case, if the casings were left undisturbed, they are an extremely reliable indicator of the shooter's locating throughout the two strings of fire.
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That’s something we’ll never know
Link Posted: 7/29/2024 9:41:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Meanwhile, the literal hundreds of people under her are just going to keep doing what they were doing.

Nothing changes. But, there were some funny clips from the hearings.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day.

The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable.


Please detail to the class how the House is suppose to hold people accountable.

Better yet, if you were Speaker, what would you do besides, committees, hearings and grandstanding speeches that would boo'd by GD.

Maybe you'll pass some useless resolutions or propose dead bills, not pass some spending bill, just to be accused of political grandstanding and playing to your base; by posters like you.



It has been doing an acceptable job by forcing the appointed Kings to answer for their actions and/or prove ineptitude on their part.   If it weren't for her lack of testimony, the SS director probably wouldn't have resigned, for example.

We've gotten more post-attempt information from leaks and house/senate testimony (and requested info publicized) than any other source beyond what is seen on video recorded during the event.



Meanwhile, the literal hundreds of people under her are just going to keep doing what they were doing.

Nothing changes. But, there were some funny clips from the hearings.

Uh-oh.  You don't mean the Rank-n-File.  Do you?
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