That’s total bullshit, that tough guy when it was all over and done with got up on that roof in a second, when there was no reason to puss out. You put pressure on a soy boy shooter like that and they will fold. Maybe you get killed, so what? Defending these cowards, like Uvalde, is amazing to me.

A lot of guys out there like to dress up and play warrior but when the time comes not so much.

It's not that dude backed away immediately. I get that part of it. He actually ran away. No one was on the radio saying get Trump off stage.  There were dozens of cops converging on this building. We have the bodycam and can hear the radio. Fucking silence regarding getting Trump out of harms way. THAT alone is a failure.  Then running away. Then taking like 10 minutes to get on the roof - a bunch of kitted and tatted up tough guys can't get on a fucking short root?

BREAKING: U.S. Secret Service Breaks into Massachusetts Hair Salon and Tapes Over Security Camera, Allegedly to Let People Use the Bathroom During Kamala Harris Fundraiser

READ: https://t.co/mrEzIauIx0 pic.twitter.com/64leaRBtcx

The Gateway Pundit  (@gatewaypundit) August 9, 2024

...However, what transpired next left Powers feeling violated and betrayed. According to Powers, Secret Service agents took it upon themselves to enter her locked salon, use her bathroom, and tamper with her security cameras—all without her consent.

Security footage obtained by Business Insider showed a female Secret Service agent taping over the lens of a Ring security camera located at the salon’s entrance.

The agents then proceeded to break into the salon, triggering the security alarm and using the facilities for nearly two hours before leaving the building completely unsecured.

“When I got back to my phone, it was actually closer to 2:30 before I caught that. When I saw that people were in here I literally got in my car I raced here they had already essentially cleaned up and left,” Powers told iBerkshire.

“When I got back here, my front door was left unlocked. I don’t know how long it was unlocked for and that’s essentially the the gist of what happened. They were walking around in here for a good hour and a half, my alarm was going off the entire time, that should have alarmed somebody that maybe you shouldn’t be in the building.”

Its cause they didn't want people filming them being confused which bathroom they should be going into.

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Why the fuck should that officer take a bullet for Trump.

In hindsight, if the cop had fired a few rounds into the ground that may have sent enough of a signal to the SS to get Trump off the stage since obviously the radios weren't playing well together. It all stinks to high heaven, way too many "mistakes" for me to believe the official story.

If the sissy can't do his job, maybe he needs to start working at McDonald's

When you dress up like g.I. Joe and agree to help protect a former/future POTUS it’s kind of what you sign up for. Unless you are just in it for the dental plan and free ammo.

Well what’s the over under on folks setting boobytraps  before they leave their store now

Yep, shooting into the ground is usually frowned upon but in this case “warning shots“ might’ve saved an innocent man from being killed and others wounded.

I woulda probably stuck just my gun over the edge and fired a shot in the last place I seen crooks. But I don't have the tier 1 training like officer Usain Bolt. So I wouldn't be able to perform such a heroic retreat.

I kind of expect LEO to be more willing to take a bullet for a person than most, especially when it's someone who's death would have massive consequences.  I mean l, you expect SS to meat shield Trump, but a well trained, armored and better equipped LEO shouldn't be willing to go head to head?  You're a disgrace

This was my thought....  he falls down .. immediately fire off a few rounds.  Trump is rushed off stage and all attention is on the shooter.

I really wish the OP would unbold the thread title and remove the breaking. Every time I see this thread in Active Topics I think momentarily think Trump has been shot again.

Could he have gotten shot by the Secret Service?

That just dumped a mag into the ground.  

All this is really easily to analyze in hindsight.

Not from that super shielded, perfect position, Jason Bourne, I mean Crooks was at.

More bodycam:

This is the first non-blurred bodycam I can recall seeing of retardy osward's body at like 12-14m into that video.

Yeah.....

The guys that can do screen grabs and crops will be able to get some detailed pics out of this.

Watched the whole thing. Right at the end one of the cops said he called out someone moving across the roof and even said someone should have gotten Trump off stage.  Numerous cops said someone fucked up. A number of cops said they told and SS confirmed there would be SS Posted where shooter gained access.

This was an inside job with SS being involved.  If I was Trump/Vance I would have Blackwater covering my ass at this point.

At first it was said Crooks opened fire just several seconds after pointing the rifle at officer who peeked his head over the roof. According to this latest video some 35 seconds elapse from officer falling back to the ground until the first shot. I was criticized for initially stating the officer should have fired into the ground but after seeing this I stand by that initial reaction especially in that enclosed area between buildings where Secret Service could not mistakenly shoot back at the cop. There would have been ample time to remove Trump from the stage or at least surround him.

This keeps getting more fuckey

So allegedly there was an active assasination plot on Trump

But USSS et al hold a laxed security protocol for Trump outdoor event and assign the D team to man the thing

Ain’t no fuckin way Gov was not in on this and trying to let (read as make) it happen

Honestly my take on the “Iranian plot” is simple

It’s pure bullshit lies made up in attempt to gain “plausible deniability” in effort to keep the actual perps within gov from being singled out and hung for attempted murder

Nada was mentioned about that early on. I’d assume because they thought they could wiggle their way out of it same as they did when they whacked Kennedy

Kicker is they really suck at the whole master planning concept as with every trickle of info it just keep fucking up their last info disbursed. Making last and current both questionable if not down right impossible when assessed against one another using known security protocols

So what next, aliens. Bwahahahahah

The iran shit really blows their cover story to bits as mentioned of why no heightened security IF that was actually a credible threat as they proport, at this time

Fucks em to tears with another layer of onion peel that doesn’t pass the sniff test. It’s like watching a bad d list improv act at this point


That and, not to derail thread, but, create another uh hmmm “weapons of mass destruction” reason to go to war with Iran. Haven’t had full bore U.S war in Middle East in a few so mil industrial complex is getting hungry and needs a new long term war to generate revenue

Why didn't someone just go up to the second floor where they could have seen Crooks from the window, instead of all the theatrics of trying to climb onto the roof? Plenty of guys there they could have done both simultaneously.

That was a Counter Sniper nest. They abandoned thier post.

And no one knows exactly which window they were in. Right...

Convenient....

https://apnews.com/article/trump-assassination-attempt-secret-service-pennsylvania-2f887d537c34a798019c6f430dcdbfb1

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two local law enforcement officers stationed in the complex of buildings where a gunman opened fire at former President Donald Trump left to go search for the man before the shooting, the head of Pennsylvania State Police said Tuesday, raising questions about whether a key post was left unattended as the shooter climbed onto a roof.

Pennsylvania State Police Col. Christopher Paris told a congressional committee that two Butler County Emergency Services Unit officers were stationed at a second-floor window in the complex of buildings that form AGR International Inc. They spotted Thomas Matthew Crooks acting suspiciously on the ground and left their post to look for him along with other law enforcement officers, he said.

Paris said he didn’t know whether officers would have been able to see Crooks climbing onto the roof of an adjacent building had they remained at the window. A video taken by a lawmaker who visited the shooting site on Monday shows a second-story window of the building had a clear view of the roof where Crooks opened fire; it was unclear if the video showed the window where the officers had been stationed.

We have a picture of one of the rifles set up looking SW out of one western windows. Who knows if that is where it was the entire time.
The interesting part of that picture is if a sniper was there, a few minutes before the shooting, they would have likely seen/heard the crowd of witnesses gathering around pointing and yelling about a guy on the roof in front of them.

So either no one was there for quite a bit... or someone was there, didn't hear the crowd shouting about the guy on the roof, and/or assumed their rifle setup got spotted by the spectators and dismissed it.

Just a few shots into the ground would have been better than nothing

It makes total sense now, the 'swamp' wants Trump gone. And they will go to any, ANY, length to make that happen. Just wait and see.

At the risk of a knock on my door, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the next attempt will be some sort of major mass casualty event. It'll most likely be carried out with 'stolen/captured' weapons from some regime we've supported and blamed on iran or some other 'rogue' nation we're not friendly with. Very plausible with the millions of humans, and whatever else, flooding across our southern border.

ETA - Trump, love him or hate him and good/bad/evil at this point, has rallied a LOT of people in this country to really look at what is going on behind the scenes and what is being done by our own government, and the worldwide cabal, to ruin or country. The easiest way for them to continue is with Trump out of the way. If what they've done to him over the last 8+ years doesn't shine a lot of light on that then nothing will.



I think there is more truth to this meme the more time goes along.


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Unfortunately, I agree with you. I believe them capable of literally *anything* to keep Trump out and retain the reins of power, be that crashing the economy, killing millions w/a plandemic, some false flag event to justify martial law or 'postpone' the election, or even pushing us into a potential thermonuclear war. They would rather burn it all to the ground than give it up.

You need a key card to get in the building, that was one of the reasons given for why the snipers looking out those windows left, they had to let someone in the building.

At the end of the video the one officer got some key cards out of his glove box. Did I hear him right when he said he had 4 cards on the key chain? It was kinda hard to tell, I know he had one

Look, I'm really not trying to get conspiratorial here.  But if the Deep State (whatever you want to call it - the bureaucratic state and the government officials / intelligence agencies / big banks and corporations / whatever that support the bureaucratic state) - if they have done even 1/10th what people think they have done....then they literally can't allow Trump into office.  Not only would it destroy their plans, but alot of that stuff would be considered treason / serious crimes / etc.  ESPECIALLY with how they treated Trump and the chip he has on his shoulder (ear?) after getting shot?  

It isn't a conspiracy theory to think that they will do anything to stop him from gaining power again.  It's simply survival on their end.

I wonder if this is the first bodycam video that got onto the roof.  This video shows there were at least three other units on there first, 1 black uniform SWAT guy, and 2 multi-cam BDU guys.  I don't suppose the latter had bodycams but it would be nice if there was a bodycam video from the SWAT guy.

I maintain that we will not get anything meaningful from .gov on this incident.  They are going to sweep it under the rug and let everyone believe the official narrative.  They seem to be untouchable, with our perverted justice system in place and an inept Congress, so why say anything official and risk new videos coming out that refutes it.

I'm starting to think the real shooter was shooting out of the second story, the one with the open window.  In one of the videos posted by Police Activity, the officer that got on the roof with the EMT only noticed 5 casings and counted them out.  Then there was a time jump in the video and it was noticed that there was 8 casings, on both sides of the shooter.  Also in the same video, it appears that Crooks was hitting the ridge cap of the building when he shot his 5 rounds.

The whole thing stinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwBygHmIZ6c&rco=1


edit: spelling

The first 3 shots where aimed and in different position.  The second volley of 5 was more desperate shooting.  Each set fell on different sides of the pitch.  Let's stop with this red herring.

Some footage I hadn't seen before.

Video and article on the radio traffic




https://web.archive.org/web/20240808032140/https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/08/03/trump-rally-police-radio-transmissions/

An urgent message crackled over the radio inside the white trailer, a mobile communications hub for local police helping to secure former president Donald Trump’s July 13 rally in Butler, Pa.

“Just an FYI, we had a younger white male, long hair, lurking around the AGR building,” a local countersniper said at 5:42 p.m., according to a time-stamped transcript of encrypted radio communications obtained by The Washington Post. “He was viewed with a range finder sighting the stage. … We lost sight of him.”

No one from the Secret Service, the agency primarily responsible for protecting Trump, was inside that white trailer to hear the message, according to two law enforcement officials. Instead, the federal agency had its own mobile command post with Pennsylvania State Police almost 300 yards away — and had no direct, open communication line to the local police hub. The local commander inside the trailer had to pick up his cellphone and dial a state trooper to relay the message, the two officials said.

The lack of a direct communication link would later hamper the ability of the Secret Service to quickly grasp the threat posed by would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks as local police searched for him over the next 29 minutes, resulting in the federal agency’s gravest security lapse in decades, a Post examination found. At 6:11 p.m., Crooks opened fire from a rooftop, unleashing eight bullets that left the former president wounded, one rallygoer dead and two others critically injured.

The Post obtained a previously unreported transcript of more than seven hours of encrypted radio communications by local police at the rally that day and interviewed multiple law enforcement officials, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

The transcript and accounts provide the clearest picture yet of the minute-by-minute hunt for Crooks, and show how he evaded police and climbed onto the roof of a nearby building undetected. Police lost track of Crooks for 20 minutes after he was seen with the range finder, the transcript shows. When he was spotted again, walking toward the area where he would gain access to the rooftop of what local police called the “AGR building,” an officer mischaracterized where he was headed, directing his colleagues to the wrong side of the building.

The Post examination also shows that communication between the Secret Service and the local police was disjointed and time-consuming, helping to explain why Secret Service agents closest to Trump were taken by surprise when gunfire erupted. On three occasions, a local officer inside the Butler County command post had to relay information about Crooks to the Secret Service hub by cellphone — on a day when cell service was balky and unreliable.

That method was too slow when seconds counted. A local police officer spotted Crooks on a rooftop with a gun and radioed in to the local command center that he was “armed” approximately 30 seconds before the shooting, according to the transcript of the radio communications and Secret Service officials, but that message was not passed on to the Secret Service command post before Crooks started shooting, the agency has acknowledged.

The two law enforcement officers who said the command posts had no direct line of communication — and that information about Crooks had to be relayed by cellphone — were Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger and a law enforcement official familiar with the police response, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss matters of ongoing investigation.

Patrick Young, commander of the Beaver County Emergency Services Unit, which supplied local officers to secure the rally, said that it’s important that law enforcement agencies share one command post where information can be received and transmitted quickly.

“All the key stakeholders should be in the same room,” Young said in an interview. “That alleviates any communications problems.”

A Pennsylvania State Police spokesman stressed that state troopers were acting in a supporting role and referred questions to the Secret Service.

At a news conference Friday, acting Secret Service director Ronald Rowe Jr. acknowledged that there were separate communications hubs that did not effectively share information in vital moments. “There might have been radio traffic that we missed. We have to be better on that,” he said.

Rowe repeatedly emphasized that the rally shooting was a failure by the Secret Service, not local law enforcement. “If the large majority of our partners are in a unified command post or in a different location, we need to probably be there, too,” he said.

“We’re certainly going to examine the communication aspect very closely,” Anthony Guglielmi, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said in response to questions from The Post.

‘I don’t have any service’
The radio transmission about the suspicious male with a range finder set off a flurry of messages between local officers on the ground and supervisors stationed in the Butler County command center trailer.

“Do you know what color shirt?” one sheriff’s deputy asked.

“White shirt with a hat,” another answered.

In a separate channel for local tactical officers — not audible on the channel used by sheriff’s deputies — the countersniper who first reported the range finder was giving a different description: “Gray T-shirt, light-colored khaki shorts.”

The local officers lost track of Crooks, and would not see him again for 20 minutes, the transcript shows.

Monitoring the three encrypted communication channels inside the trailer, located next to a lakeside warehouse to the south of the rally site, was Sgt. Ed Lenz, the tactical commander for the Butler County mobile unit, according to the law enforcement official familiar with the police response.

He was joined by a deputy commander in the Butler County Emergency Services Unit, a Butler County sheriff’s sergeant and a county employee, the official said.

Lenz did not respond to an email with detailed questions.

When Lenz heard the message about the range finder, he used his cellphone to call a state police officer stationed in the Secret Service trailer at 5:44 p.m., according to the official and call logs. State police Sgt. Joseph Olayer, the call recipient, relayed the information to his Secret Service counterparts in the trailer, the official said.

Olayer declined to comment, citing the ongoing investigation.

Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Col. Christopher Paris acknowledged in congressional testimony last month that someone from Butler County’s tactical unit had called a state trooper inside the Secret Service command post and then sent a text message with a photograph of Crooks. The state police officer was told to forward the image to a separate Secret Service number, Paris said.

Minutes after Lenz passed on the suspicious-person report to the state police sergeant, Lenz radioed to local officers that help was on the way, the transcript shows.

“PSP (Pennsylvania State Police) and sheriffs should be in route,” Lenz told officers on the ground at 5:45 p.m.

As reinforcements made their way to help, officers tried to circulate photos of Crooks, but cellphone reception problems got in the way, the transcript shows.

“I’m trying to forward photographs of the individual,” said a local tactical team member at 5:47 p.m.

“Units be advised internet and cell service is down,” another officer on that channel said a minute later.

“Your picture is probably not going to go through because I don’t have any service,” a sheriff’s deputy radioed at 5:49 p.m.

Around this time, a Butler County tactical officer said he had “notified Hercules,” a code name for Secret Service countersniper units, according to the transcript. It’s not clear how that communication was sent. But at this point, the Secret Service has said, Crooks was considered a suspicious person, not a threat. The search for the suspicious male remained an endeavor mostly left for local police.

Lenz enlisted more officers, including police handling traffic on roads outside the rally site.

“Our sierra units lost visual of him,” Lenz told the traffic-control officers at 5:54 p.m., using the code name for local tactical officers. “I believe you guys are outside of that fence, if you come upon him.”

Crooks would resurface eight minutes later, setting off an intensifying manhunt.

‘Someone’s on the roof’
At 6:02 p.m., the same local sniper who first radioed in the message about the range finder was on the second floor of the building owned by Agr International. From a northwest window, facing away from the rally site, he glimpsed the suspect again just as Trump was preparing to take the podium.

“All right, subject is in between the AGR building. He has a backpack,” said Sgt. Greg Nicol, a Beaver County sniper. Nicol had been assigned to look out over the rally site from a window on the opposite side of the building, but he had moved to look for the suspect, according to Young, Nicol’s commander.

Nicol did not respond to requests for comment. But in an interview, Beaver County District Attorney Nathan Bible, whose office oversees the county’s tactical team, praised Nicol for moving within the building to look for Crooks, calling it “good old-fashioned police work.”

“He realized somebody needs to find this guy,” Bible told The Post.

From his vantage point on the second floor, Nicol was unable to discern where Crooks was headed, though, the transcript shows.

Crooks was walking to the northeast, toward an area between two wings of the complex of warehouses at Agr International. The space was enclosed on three sides, a dead end. But Nicol suggested Crooks was headed in the direction of a gas station on the other side of the building.

“He just went towards the Sheetz,” Nicol said, referring to the gas station about a quarter of a mile away.

That information quickly circulated, the transcript shows.

Inside the Butler County command center, Lenz again called Olayer in the Secret Service command post to pass on a message during a 40-second call at 6:03 p.m., according to the law enforcement official familiar with the police response and call logs.

The message was also passed on to local police units.

“All units be advised also that individual is headed towards Sheetz,” a sheriff’s deputy radioed to his colleagues at 6:04 p.m.

Instead, two law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation said, Crooks made his way to an HVAC unit next to the Agr building. He scaled that equipment to gain access to the roof of the building, the officials said. Video obtained by the FBI shows Crooks climbing onto the roof at 6:06 p.m., FBI Deputy Director Paul Abbate said in congressional testimony this week.

By the time Crooks was on the roof, officers were still focused on finding him on the ground.

“He’s reportedly between the building up here at AGR somewhere,” a local officer on the channel for traffic control said at 6:06 p.m. “I’m guessing the west side, east side looks clear.”

In the command post, Lenz radioed to the tactical units that local police had the building surrounded. “They should have a fairly good perimeter. If you get another visual let me know,” he said at 6:07 p.m.

Less than a minute later, Crooks was spotted again, this time up above.

“Someone’s on the roof,” a local officer radioed at 6:08 p.m. “I have someone on the roof with white shorts.”

Video published by Fox News shows Crooks running along the roof of the Agr building around this time.

Inside the local command, Lenz radioed to clarify that the person on the roof was not a police officer.

“We do not have assets on the roof,” he said. “That is not us.”

At 6:09, Lenz again dialed the state trooper to inform him about the suspect on the roof, according to the law enforcement official and call logs.

At the same time, a local officer said over the radio that he had a good view of the male on the roof.

“We got him,” the officer said. “We don’t have him in custody yet, but he’s right straight in front of me by the pine tree standing upwards. He had a backpack.”

The officer’s description appears to match a location on the east side of the complex, near the building where Crooks opened fire. But within 25 seconds, Crooks had slipped out of the officer’s range of vision.

“Lost sight of him, trooper was chasing him, trying to follow him around the building,” the officer said.

On the other side of the complex, bystanders gathered under a tree about 160 feet from the building had a clearer view of Crooks, who was prone on the rooftop, video shows.

“Someone is on top of the roof, look, there he is right there,” a spectator says in a video of that scene. Closer to the building, a police officer craned his neck to see on top, but apparently couldn’t locate Crooks due to the angle.

A video taken around the same time by Dave Stewart, a 35-year-old Pennsylvania resident, showed several law enforcement officers struggling to spot Crooks from south of the building, the side closest to the rally site.

“Last time I seen him was by the pine tree between the two buildings, the small walkway joining the buildings,” the officer who earlier spotted Crooks on the roof reported at 6:10 p.m.

At 6:11 p.m., a local officer hoisted up to the roofline by a colleague reported the first sign that the man on the roof was, in fact, a deadly threat.

“He’s armed,” the officer said, according to the transcript. “I saw him, he’s laying down.”

Local officials have previously said the officer lowered himself because his hands were on the roofline, preventing him from pulling his weapon as Crooks pointed his rifle in the officer’s direction.

“He’s got a long gun,” the officer said again into the radio.

Seconds later, Lenz radioed the Butler County quick response force, a team responsible for responding to any potential coordinated attack on Trump. The team was based in the barns behind the rally stage, documents show, but had moved out into a field and were facing the Agr building, according to video footage recorded two minutes earlier.

“QRF from command. You need to deploy to the AGR building,” Lenz said. He added, using shorthand for Butler Township police, “BT has a male on the roof with a long gun. They have made contact with him.”

As he was passing on the directive, Lenz interrupted himself: “Shots fired,” he said at 6:11 p.m.

The law enforcement official familiar with the police response said officials in the local command center were not able to pass on the message about an armed man to the Secret Service command post. There was not enough time to make the cellphone call.

You’re not wrong to think this was possible. Or the main shooter was in that building under Crooks somewhere. Audio analysis shows shots 1-3 came from a different location than 4-8, especially from audio taken from the side of the building.

Consider putting this theory on pause.  You are overstating evidence and analysis and this gets in the way of investigation, attention spans.and creates a bias against the curious.   It would be nice if you connected the dots on why several more people need to be removed if.not.jailed, to include Mayorkas.  Your boogie man hunt gets in the way.

Well played!

Probably.

Hear him.  He is correct.