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Posted: 8/15/2024 7:45:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: That's not Crooks, he was a troll who capitalized on kind of looking like him and made a video after the shooting claiming to be him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By 01ZULU: you missed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/Screen_Shot_2024-08-15_at_00_25_56-3294879.png Wow, what an freaking idiot! |
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Posted: 8/15/2024 9:00:29 PM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2024 9:40:34 PM EST
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If you even have a passing interest in this assassination attempt, the Clay Higgins letter is a must-read.
https://clayhiggins.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Preliminary-Investigative-Report-8.12.24.pdf Wow. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 12:07:12 AM EST
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/08/14/caught-sleeping-on-the-job-trumps-secret-service-detail-is-an-absolute-disaster-n2643357
Sean Curran, the detail leader and top boss of Trump's regular 60-member protective team, and his deputy, Matthew Piant, complained of "rumors, innuendo and toxicity" among the detail, as well as "selfishness and immaturity." And then, there's the site agent who apparently has been posting on social media while on duty, endangering herself and the protectee: ...he allegations against the site agent are a separate matter. The agent is now under the microscope not only for her role in devising the security plan for the rally. She's also facing internal scrutiny for posting videos and photos from her protective assignments to social media. The agent in question served as the official site agent for the July 13 Butler event that ended in an assassination attempt wounding Donald Trump in the ear and killing rally-goer Corey Comperatore in front of his family. RealClearPolitics is not naming the agent out of concern for her personal safety. She also joined forces with the event's lead agent, a woman from the Secret Service's Pittsburgh Field Office, in conducting a walk-through of the security with supervisors. The lead agent typically oversees security at the entire event from airport arrival to event to hotel stay to airport departure. Sources within the Secret Service say the site agent was inexperienced for such a critical security role but noted that the position is rotated throughout the Trump detail, not routinely assigned based on merit or experience. We did the same thing as children in the boy scouts, but, with one difference. We didn't just hand them the patrol leader slot and say good luck! They did it with supervision. There was a thread on this here not too long ago. They convienently left off the fact she was the LEADER of the detail, not simply a member (if true) The head of Kamala Harris' detail, Michelle Herczeg, suffered what's described as a mental breakdown in April. Despite concerns about mental fitness and not clinching some training benchmarks, her assignment was approved. ...n late May of this year, an erratic man was able to infiltrate and spend at least one night in the Miami Field Office, according to four sources familiar with the incident. Some agents working out in the gym violated office policy by propping open the door to help ventilate the room. A man in shorts and a t-shirt entered through that partially opened door, and no one noticed. The man, identified as Ashtyn Domenech by one knowledgeable source, apparently found the "bunk room," took a shower, and fell asleep in a bed overnight, sources said. Domenech accessed computers on an open internet line and downloaded and watched porn, according to two sources familiar with the trespassing incident. The next morning, Domenech asked administration staff where he "could get a cup of coffee around here," and the employees responded by fulfilling his request for coffee without realizing he didn't belong there, the sources said. He then ventured into a class on defensive tactics that a supervisor was teaching. The supervisor confronted him about his identity and apprehended him. I do a lot of internet searching. One thing you see is solvability factors. For instance, good luck googling John Smith. On the other hand... Ashtyn Domenech? Took three seconds to find the arrest record with an image. Then, I ran that name through linkedin. High confidence same face. Linkedin guys' alleged current job? 18D (Army Special Forces). Also lists some left field stuff on his Li page, so, who knows? Anyway, if it matters, you need to make some offline storage for all these red herrings and rabbit holes. They certainly aren't going to make a library wing to remember it all by |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 12:52:04 AM EST
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instead of editing and glomming on, a couple of things that stood out to me
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/08/12/dissension_toxicity_plagued_trumps_secret_service_detail_before_assassination_attempt.html Yet, some rank-and-file members of the detail team familiar with the sleeping incident said the real outrage was that the individuals who fell asleep while guarding Mar-a-Lago were, to their knowledge, never disciplined. They noted that at least one was the daughter of a retired former Secret Service leader who remained influential among the agency's top brass. During his remarks, Piant obliquely referred to the team member's suicide last year, arguing that all members of the team should be especially attuned to mental health problems This, I think, refers to the Pittsburgh field office USSS agent: In contrast, the lead agent had decades of experience within the Secret Service but did not have experience on a protective detail, the innermost ring of security for presidents, first ladies, former presidents, and their families, according to sources in the Secret Service community familiar with her background. It was the first time counter snipers were assigned to a Trump reelection event, apparently because of an elevated Iranian threat. But Secret Service leaders at headquarters didn't provide a sniper team for the rooftop where would-be assassin Thomas Crooks fired off his shots. Nor did they allocate a counter-surveillance unit, roaming agents who work to find and intercept suspicious people or fortify vulnerable areas during a rally. In addition, supervisors from the Pittsburgh Field Office and the Trump detail were ultimately responsible for evaluating and signing off on the security plan and were thereby integral to ensuring that the plans are sound and all vulnerable areas were covered. During Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe's July 30 Senate testimony, Sen. Josh Hawley demanded to know the identity of the lead agent for the rally, implying that the person was responsible for the decision to leave the American Glass Research, or AGR, building up to local law enforcement to protect. Hawley, however, erred slightly in his questioning, combining the jobs of site agent and lead agent, two separate roles. Rowe responded that he couldn't give Hawley that agent's name because the person was still "operational, still doing investigations, still doing protective visits." Hawley then demanded to know why Rowe hadn't fired the person. Rowe explained that the agent is cooperating with the FBI investigation and with the Secret Service's Office of Professional Responsibility. Both lead agents and site agents are typically involved in walk-throughs with supervisors. The lead agent oversees a whole team of site agents for the airport, the overnight accommodations, and the rally. The lead, considered the point person for the entire trip of a protectee, typically requests the number of post-standers, counter snipers, and other security assets needed for every stop during a visit to a region, including the main event in this case, the Butler rally. An additional member of the Pittsburgh team was responsible for working with local law enforcement entities for the plan in the outer-most perimeter and likely determined whether local law enforcement needed to be posted on top of or inside the AGR building, from where Crooks fired at Trump and the crowd. But these same sources argue that the system which simply rotated the site agent role and didn't require protective experience for the lead agent set both up for failure. The top supervisors who had to sign off on the security plan for the Butler rally are Tim Burke, special agent in charge of the Secret Service's Pittsburgh Field Office, and Nick Menster, assistant special agent in charge of the Trump detail. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 2:06:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Biden being put out to pasture, the assassination attempt, and media-generated rebirth of KH all happened within a suspiciously short period of time. Had the assassination attempt succeeded, we'd probably be up to our necks in civil war with the empty vessel Harris being installed as President without a single vote, ready for programming. They want the swords to come out. National chaos gives them the opportunity to do literally anything they want. Yup. All of that and much more. The last eight years have been a novel mixture of espionage, corruption, and subversion. Given what's unfolded, how anyone can still be asleep at the wheel is mind-blowing. Even an old fart who gets all their news from the MSM should have alarm bells ringing after a few minutes of critical thinking once the TV goes off. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 2:08:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mustb123: Some folks remember, including my 10yo grandson. Each school year he gets to pick his backpack. This years selection should go over well at the private school he attends. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/46919079-3F07-4FDC-8FDE-CE465612BEDE-3295073.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mustb123: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. Some folks remember, including my 10yo grandson. Each school year he gets to pick his backpack. This years selection should go over well at the private school he attends. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126943/46919079-3F07-4FDC-8FDE-CE465612BEDE-3295073.jpg 
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Posted: 8/16/2024 7:17:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By high_order1: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/08/14/caught-sleeping-on-the-job-trumps-secret-service-detail-is-an-absolute-disaster-n2643357 It was a chick that ran the rally package. Like I said early on in this, it's not hard to find the weak sisters and put them in charge of things knowing they would fuck it up to give your entire plot plausibility. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 7:27:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wombat25: If you even have a passing interest in this assassination attempt, the Clay Higgins letter is a must-read. https://clayhiggins.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Preliminary-Investigative-Report-8.12.24.pdf Wow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wombat25: If you even have a passing interest in this assassination attempt, the Clay Higgins letter is a must-read. https://clayhiggins.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Preliminary-Investigative-Report-8.12.24.pdf Wow. USSS did not retrieve the radios that had been set aside for them by Butler County tactical command. The radio comms were properly and perfectly arranged during the extensive pre-mission planning. On J12, the Butler County ESU Commander personally reminded the USSS counter-sniper teams to pick up their assigned radios at the ESU Command Post RV, which was positioned according to planning at the Butler Fairgrounds, the following morning before 1100 hrs. It didn’t happen. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 7:28:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: The Secret Service Butler rally that ended in an assassination attempt against Trump and the murder of rallygoer Corey Comperatore apparently DID NOT HAVE a UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER with local law enforcement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: The Secret Service Butler rally that ended in an assassination attempt against Trump and the murder of rallygoer Corey Comperatore apparently DID NOT HAVE a UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER with local law enforcement. This despite the fact that on prior occasions they did have a unified command center, written communications plans, all of it. I know officers who worked prior events near Pittsburg and they've been asking where the fuck the proper planning and resources were from the jump. It appears as if unified command centers at rallies and events --(made up of Secret Service supervisors and their local law enforcement counterparts) before Butler were limited to National Special Security Events ONLY. This is patently false, as lots of people who have worked prior events for USSS protectees have seen the level of protection involved for large public events like this, and this one didn't match. Those events are major federal govt or public events considered to be nationally significant and designated by the president and/or the Dept. of Homeland Security Secretary -- in this case Mayorkas. They, therefore, did not include rallies and campaign events for Trump. And there's your tell. The decision to downgrade protection from the usual standard to something far, far worse was done at the highest levels. Rowe in his 1 p.m. address: "We're going to put somebody in that command post, or we're going to establish our security room in partnership with that unified command post. It's the same model we use in National Special Security Events, so why would we use it on our daily operations?" This is, again, pure lying. He's also neglecting to mention that the local police offered the use of their mobile command center, which was rejected by USSS. "It's more than just trying to find the frequency of the local PD that we're working with and diving into our radio network," he said, noting that it will require investments. He said he's already stood up a task force that will be co-chaired by a Secret Service supervisor in the protective division in partnership with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. "We're going to bring together FEMA, we're going to bring together other operational elements of the department. We're going to bring in state and locals. We're going to get in a room, a small room and set them up to monitor communications with our counterpart." The resources to do exactly this are not novel and have been available for a long time. Just as an example, when Obama was a presidential candidate he visited a couple of universities in Virginia. I was actually at one of those sites visiting a buddy who was on one of the campus police departments. Guess what they had? A fucking mobile command center specifically to facilitate coordinating communications. Again, that was presidential CANDIDATE Obama, who also had USSS protection WELL in advance of him ever receiving the nomination. This is how the deep state works, folks. Incompetence is their favorite cloak for malice. The idea that the USSS didn't have the knowledge or resources do to this right is complete bullshit. The idea that they had some sort of SOP that prevented doing the right thing is complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 7:31:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
https://clayhiggins.house.gov/2024/08/15/higgins-releases-preliminary-investigative-report/
Chris Martenson, PhD @chrismartenson 🚨This incredible report by @RepClayHiggins is a MUST READ!!🚨 A few highlights: ➡️ Body was cremated before a second, ind. examination could be conducted ➡️The FBI released all the 1st responders that evening ➡️The FBI cleaned up biological materials (washed the site down on day 2) ➡️The FBI released the entire crime scene on day 3 "Disturbing" doesn't come close to describing this. It's now "malfeasance" until proven otherwise. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVDCBHNWgAA_hpO?format=png&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVDCCdzW0AAzED3?format=png&name=medium Naturally you want to get rid of the "gunman" body because that might get examined in ways that destroy your bullshit narrative. Also notice not even a hint about a tox screening on the alleged gunman. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 8:18:24 AM EST
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The rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper.
I wonder if Crooks parents wanted this cremation or the FBI took that upon themselves? Details Surface – USSS Counter Snipers Did Not Stop Assassin Crooks, Butler SWAT Did – Also, FBI Quickly and Quietly Released Body for Cremation There are some remarkable revelations in the 6-page pdf. One detail outlines how it was a Butler County SWAT officer who fired the initial shot that stopped Matthew Crooks after 8 shots fired. The Feds did not initially stop the assassin, the locals did. Another detail highlights how the Butler County coroner was not aware the FBI quickly released the body of Crooks for immediate cremation. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:41:19 AM EST
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:48:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69:
Probably got word that hillary was mad that they botched the Trump assassination.  ETA - I wonder if they'll assign all the dei hires to her team.  ETA2 - fjb didn't order squat. 
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:51:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: Probably got word that hillary was mad that they botched the Trump assassination. ETA - I wonder if they'll assign all the dei hires to her team. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: Originally Posted By Buzz69:
Probably got word that hillary was mad that they botched the Trump assassination. ETA - I wonder if they'll assign all the dei hires to her team. And when the hit is successful, they will claim that republican gun owners are far too dangerous to not have additional restrictions on them. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:56:34 AM EST
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Some interesting new info/claims outlined here from the Congressional report.
 Report says Butler SWAT operator's shot delayed Trump rally gunman before Secret Service killed him |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 10:07:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69:
They're protecting her because she did exactly as she was told. Look the other way, keep your mouth shut, and don't answer any questions. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 10:12:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: The rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper. I wonder if Crooks parents wanted this cremation or the FBI took that upon themselves? Details Surface – USSS Counter Snipers Did Not Stop Assassin Crooks, Butler SWAT Did – Also, FBI Quickly and Quietly Released Body for Cremation Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: The rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper. I wonder if Crooks parents wanted this cremation or the FBI took that upon themselves? Details Surface – USSS Counter Snipers Did Not Stop Assassin Crooks, Butler SWAT Did – Also, FBI Quickly and Quietly Released Body for Cremation There are some remarkable revelations in the 6-page pdf. One detail outlines how it was a Butler County SWAT officer who fired the initial shot that stopped Matthew Crooks after 8 shots fired. The Feds did not initially stop the assassin, the locals did. Another detail highlights how the Butler County coroner was not aware the FBI quickly released the body of Crooks for immediate cremation. I called that. |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:26:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By high_order1: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/08/14/caught-sleeping-on-the-job-trumps-secret-service-detail-is-an-absolute-disaster-n2643357 It was a chick that ran the rally package. So the local USSS was also a female. Those two wrote the plan for this event that was approved by someone in DC if this information is true. We did the same thing as children in the boy scouts, but, with one difference. We didn't just hand them the patrol leader slot and say good luck! They did it with supervision. There was a thread on this here not too long ago. They convienently left off the fact she was the LEADER of the detail, not simply a member (if true) The last note is not related at all, but it is weird as fuck to me. I do a lot of internet searching. One thing you see is solvability factors. For instance, good luck googling John Smith. On the other hand... Ashtyn Domenech? Took three seconds to find the arrest record with an image. Then, I ran that name through linkedin. High confidence same face. Linkedin guys' alleged current job? 18D (Army Special Forces). Also lists some left field stuff on his Li page, so, who knows? Anyway, if it matters, y ou need to make some offline storage for all these red herrings and rabbit holes. They certainly aren't going to make a library wing to remember it all by Google brings up his mugshot, and his Linkedin profile, on which he claims to be 18D 1st Special Forces Command, US Army, AND "Spiritual & Political Leader | Athlete | Motivator | Advisor | Teacher | Entertainer" Lot of hats, there. And, at least one federal case against him, dismissed, United States District Court, S.D. New York. Lots of WTF there. Did he wander into the SS "hangout" by accident? He does have 2 followers on Linkedin. Wonder which field office THEY'RE in.  |
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Posted: 8/16/2024 9:31:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buzz69:
Is that like dividing by zero? What in the hell? |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 3:13:05 AM EST
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Does look like he is using his cellphone, if he was speaking to or texting someone then who?
Eerie new photos of Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks minutes before shooting raise questions about assassination attempt In the picture, Crooks can be seen holding up his cell phone - as if chatting to someone on a call. Investigators have still not determined what Crooks' motive was or whether he was indeed acting alone. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 3:20:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: They're protecting her because she did exactly as she was told. Look the other way, keep your mouth shut, and don't answer any questions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: Originally Posted By Buzz69:
They're protecting her because she did exactly as she was told. Look the other way, keep your mouth shut, and don't answer any questions. I don't think they are protecting her more like keeping her under 24hr surveillance to make sure she keeps her mouth shut. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 7:50:18 AM EST
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Posted: 8/17/2024 9:10:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: Does look like he is using his cellphone, if he was speaking to or texting someone then who? Eerie new photos of Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks minutes before shooting raise questions about assassination attempt Am I just as retarded as the shooter? He's looking at his phone screen. 99.87% of what people do on their phone is something other than communicating with people. And that picture is not new, nor eerie. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:52:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsTnMW4AA9-Sc?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsX3lXsAATDre?format=jpg&name=medium In my mind at this point, the US government was at least actively involved in letting the assassination attempt happen. It's a good chance the government was actively involved in making it happen - but I'd like to have some first hand info before solidly taking this position. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:17:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Am I just as retarded as the shooter? He's looking at his phone screen. 99.87% of what people do on their phone is something other than communicating with people. And that picture is not new, nor eerie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By Socio: Does look like he is using his cellphone, if he was speaking to or texting someone then who? Eerie new photos of Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks minutes before shooting raise questions about assassination attempt Am I just as retarded as the shooter? He's looking at his phone screen. 99.87% of what people do on their phone is something other than communicating with people. And that picture is not new, nor eerie. Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he was talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's onsite, he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:19:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he wasnt talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 My guess is that he was looking at something related to the rally or the site. Maybe google maps/earth. Maybe a schedule of who was speaking when. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:22:32 AM EST
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Organized Disorganization?
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:27:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: My guess is that he was looking at something related to the rally or the site. Maybe google maps/earth. Maybe a schedule of who was speaking when. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he wasnt talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 My guess is that he was looking at something related to the rally or the site. Maybe google maps/earth. Maybe a schedule of who was speaking when. That's certainly possible, but so is the possibility of communication. The way the agencies have responded, I rule out nothing. Weird that SS ordered ESU snipers inside, then refused aerial surveillance, did not attend security brief and didn't accept common comm devices.....much less get T$ off stage at least by the time both SS sniper teams went to shooting positions. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:35:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panta_Rei: That's certainly possible, but so is the possibility of communication. The way the agencies have responded, I rule out nothing. Weird that SS ordered ESU snipers inside, then refused aerial surveillance, did not attend security brief and didn't accept common comm devices.....much less get T$ off stage at least by the time both SS sniper teams went to shooting positions. I'd say the bigger possibility is that a news website is making up bullshit for clicks. zOmG! New EERIE PICTURE!!!!!!!! click here! He was talking to his FBI handlers using his bosnian encrypted chat app! There's nothing to back any of that up. Its just a news website stretching the facts as thin as they can to get more clicks. And gullible people clicking on them and sharing them. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:58:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: I'd say the bigger possibility is that a news website is making up bullshit for clicks. zOmG! New EERIE PICTURE!!!!!!!! click here! He was talking to his FBI handlers using his bosnian encrypted chat app! There's nothing to back any of that up. Its just a news website stretching the facts as thin as they can to get more clicks. And gullible people clicking on them and sharing them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: That's certainly possible, but so is the possibility of communication. The way the agencies have responded, I rule out nothing. Weird that SS ordered ESU snipers inside, then refused aerial surveillance, did not attend security brief and didn't accept common comm devices.....much less get T$ off stage at least by the time both SS sniper teams went to shooting positions. I'd say the bigger possibility is that a news website is making up bullshit for clicks. zOmG! New EERIE PICTURE!!!!!!!! click here! He was talking to his FBI handlers using his bosnian encrypted chat app! There's nothing to back any of that up. Its just a news website stretching the facts as thin as they can to get more clicks. And gullible people clicking on them and sharing them. What have I written above that is not true? I pulled this from Congressional inquiry and direct interview. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 12:15:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AP: Google brings up his mugshot, and his Linkedin profile, on which he claims to be 18D 1st Special Forces Command, US Army, AND "Spiritual & Political Leader | Athlete | Motivator | Advisor | Teacher | Entertainer" Lot of hats, there. And, at least one federal case against him, dismissed, United States District Court, S.D. New York. Lots of WTF there. Did he wander into the SS "hangout" by accident? He does have 2 followers on Linkedin. Wonder which field office THEY'RE in. Theory: he was down there for an urban E&E course. What better place to hide out? He just received a minor minus for getting caught critiquing their training while eating their food and racking out there... LOL |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 12:24:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panta_Rei: What have I written above that is not true? I pulled this from Congressional inquiry and direct interview. My posts were in reply to the "news" article posted, with the headline "eerie new photos" and implied that he was talking to somebody. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 12:35:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: In my mind at this point, the US government was at least actively involved in letting the assassination attempt happen. It's a good chance the government was actively involved in making it happen - but I'd like to have some first hand info before solidly taking this position. Yep. The way the security was set up, it's easy to see it as intentional sabotage by someone higher up (withhold certain resources, put the appropriately incompetent people in the right positions, maybe give those incompetents some subtle suggestions...). From there, it's not much of a leap to someone checking to see who is "on the radar" and whether any of them are close enough to the planned site to come sniffing around for an opportunity. Moving on from there to providing assassin candidates with intel or other forms of support would be a bigger hurdle, because it couldn't be dismissed as just the DEI team performing as they could be expected to perform, limited resources due to budgets, or the results of a preliminary investigation of a person of interest not being passed along to someone that would be more likely to notice that person was taking action. The group currently running things could definitely take that next step, though. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 1:47:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: I'd say the bigger possibility is that a news website is making up bullshit for clicks. zOmG! New EERIE PICTURE!!!!!!!! click here! He was talking to his FBI handlers using his bosnian encrypted chat app! There's nothing to back any of that up. Its just a news website stretching the facts as thin as they can to get more clicks. And gullible people clicking on them and sharing them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: That's certainly possible, but so is the possibility of communication. The way the agencies have responded, I rule out nothing. Weird that SS ordered ESU snipers inside, then refused aerial surveillance, did not attend security brief and didn't accept common comm devices.....much less get T$ off stage at least by the time both SS sniper teams went to shooting positions. I'd say the bigger possibility is that a news website is making up bullshit for clicks. zOmG! New EERIE PICTURE!!!!!!!! click here! He was talking to his FBI handlers using his bosnian encrypted chat app! There's nothing to back any of that up. Its just a news website stretching the facts as thin as they can to get more clicks. And gullible people clicking on them and sharing them. Why is everybody assuming a conspiracy requires FBI, SS, and many others in the loop? Only needs to be one person in moderate to high trust for the event security to pull this off. After setting up to call an officer off post to go check some other area, sends shooter a text saying "in 15 minutes go to the AGR building roof" and it's done, after some preliminary discussion/grooming online chat prior to the event. The rest just falls through ineptitude. However, the areas of ineptitude failure are so great it's really hard to ignore malicious negligence in more than one location and time. Drawing the perimeter with a big pizza slice removed which happens to have nice high overlook on rally, telling LEO to look on the grass at ground level behind that building instead of on top of it, SS allowing Trump to go on stage while local LEO area actively searching for person everybody is alerting them to. SS not taking a shot until local LEO disabled weapon (Yeah "couldn't see him" but there were other/better positions they could have been instead of 50 yards apart). And about a dozen more non-critical to suspicious decisions made such as command posts not unified nor radios and it's a joke. Think about what we would know about this if Trump had been killed. It's worse than JFK with factual information right now, and we'd be sold an entirely larger lie and told to shut up. Instead, we're being pushed to believe it never happened at all. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 2:01:49 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: Getting capped in the dome can have a way of distorting some facial features. if it was .300 mag it should've popped the grape. I'm rather amazed |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 5:54:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: nu3gawhat]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Why is everybody assuming a conspiracy requires FBI, SS, and many others in the loop? Only needs to be one person in moderate to high trust for the event security to pull this off. After setting up to call an officer off post to go check some other area, sends shooter a text saying "in 15 minutes go to the AGR building roof" and it's done, after some preliminary discussion/grooming online chat prior to the event. The rest just falls through ineptitude. However, the areas of ineptitude failure are so great it's really hard to ignore malicious negligence in more than one location and time. Drawing the perimeter with a big pizza slice removed which happens to have nice high overlook on rally, telling LEO to look on the grass at ground level behind that building instead of on top of it, SS allowing Trump to go on stage while local LEO area actively searching for person everybody is alerting them to. SS not taking a shot until local LEO disabled weapon (Yeah "couldn't see him" but there were other/better positions they could have been instead of 50 yards apart). And about a dozen more non-critical to suspicious decisions made such as command posts not unified nor radios and it's a joke. Think about what we would know about this if Trump had been killed. It's worse than JFK with factual information right now, and we'd be sold an entirely larger lie and told to shut up. Instead, we're being pushed to believe it never happened at all. Yeah, it's crazy. Just like J6, memory holing the pipebombs, Ray Epps, etc. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:11:00 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he was talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's onsite, he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 That’s my opinion. He’s about to carry out an assassination attempt, preparing, scouting, etc. why would he be surfing the web, goofing around on his phone? He supposedly didn’t have any social media. He’s probably communicating with his handler or the other shooter. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:16:07 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: They're protecting her because she did exactly as she was told. Look the other way, keep your mouth shut, and don't answer any questions. I suspect a Cheney link with Cheatle. Read the language used by them when addressing Trump . |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:25:47 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPN: Yep. The way the security was set up, it's easy to see it as intentional sabotage by someone higher up (withhold certain resources, put the appropriately incompetent people in the right positions, maybe give those incompetents some subtle suggestions...). From there, it's not much of a leap to someone checking to see who is "on the radar" and whether any of them are close enough to the planned site to come sniffing around for an opportunity. Moving on from there to providing assassin candidates with intel or other forms of support would be a bigger hurdle, because it couldn't be dismissed as just the DEI team performing as they could be expected to perform, limited resources due to budgets, or the results of a preliminary investigation of a person of interest not being passed along to someone that would be more likely to notice that person was taking action. The group currently running things could definitely take that next step, though. It seems even the most in denial, normalcy bias person on our side has to admit that this was “allowed” to happen or it was purposeful negligence. The problem with just stopping there is you have to believe Crooks just happened to show up there, knew exactly where to go, etc. when all this calamity of failures was taking place by chance. Pac-man security perimeter, no team on the roof closest to Trump, local sniper team vanishing at the right time, etc. I mean if you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you with some ocean front property in Arizona. Kind of like how people believed Oswald just happened to be working at the School Book Depository weeks before the parade route was announced and changed last minute. |
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Posted: 8/17/2024 10:32:57 PM EST
[#41]
“Yes, ma’am, a 135 yard perimeter is sufficient.” Someone said, or thought that? Please, that would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
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Posted: 8/17/2024 11:51:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsTnMW4AA9-Sc?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsX3lXsAATDre?format=jpg&name=medium Not that he needed it, but if DJT somehow gets back into office, he has an even stronger case for dismantling the FBI now. Many fucks upon the FBI, who almost certainly have more people watching this thread, than we had SS agents watching that roof. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 2:42:40 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P229SAS: Some interesting new info/claims outlined here from the Congressional report.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZhlIG7XoAIn the still photo on that video, the structures on the left side behind the pond are the grandstands that I'd seen images of countersniper teams on top of. I think that's where the first shot came from. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 12:03:47 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: That’s my opinion. He’s about to carry out an assassination attempt, preparing, scouting, etc. why would he be surfing the web, goofing around on his phone? He supposedly didn’t have any social media. He’s probably communicating with his handler or the other shooter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he was talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's onsite, he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 That’s my opinion. He’s about to carry out an assassination attempt, preparing, scouting, etc. why would he be surfing the web, goofing around on his phone? He supposedly didn’t have any social media. He’s probably communicating with his handler or the other shooter. They could have taken that info off of his phone or get it from the cell carrier...if they wanted to.
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Posted: 8/18/2024 12:32:08 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Not that he needed it, but if DJT somehow gets back into office, he has an even stronger case for dismantling the FBI now. Many fucks upon the FBI, who almost certainly have more people watching this thread, than we had SS agents watching that roof. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By DarkStar:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsTnMW4AA9-Sc?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLsX3lXsAATDre?format=jpg&name=medium Not that he needed it, but if DJT somehow gets back into office, he has an even stronger case for dismantling the FBI now. Many fucks upon the FBI, who almost certainly have more people watching this thread, than we had SS agents watching that roof. They sure can investigate Donald Trump, go after J6 protesters, and cover up any truth surrounding it, but sure can’t seem to do what they’re actually supposed to do. Keep in mind that the dictator President in the movie Civil War wanted to dismantle the FBI and at the end of the movie, he was executed as if it was completely justified. Yet, we’re supposed to believe this movie wasn’t politically biased.  Big Misses | Full Measure |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 12:50:20 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AP: Is that like dividing by zero? What in the hell? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AP: Originally Posted By Buzz69:
Is that like dividing by zero? What in the hell? It ties up more resources . She'll get actual SS detail vs dei hires |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 1:18:14 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: They could have taken that info off of his phone or get it from the cell carrier...if they wanted to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he was talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's onsite, he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 That’s my opinion. He’s about to carry out an assassination attempt, preparing, scouting, etc. why would he be surfing the web, goofing around on his phone? He supposedly didn’t have any social media. He’s probably communicating with his handler or the other shooter. They could have taken that info off of his phone or get it from the cell carrier...if they wanted to. Maybe they did. Just like the autopsy report and body. Nothing to see, we found nothing. Really. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 1:57:53 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Maybe they did. Just like the autopsy report and body. Nothing to see, we found nothing. Really. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cycolac: Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By Panta_Rei: Just too assumptive. What makes you think there's a 0.1% chance he was talking or texting? I'd say that is exponentially more likely than playing a game or surfing social media. We know he's onsite, he's armed and positioning to kill. There's certainly more to investigate here, to dismiss would be retarded 😉 That’s my opinion. He’s about to carry out an assassination attempt, preparing, scouting, etc. why would he be surfing the web, goofing around on his phone? He supposedly didn’t have any social media. He’s probably communicating with his handler or the other shooter. They could have taken that info off of his phone or get it from the cell carrier...if they wanted to. Maybe they did. Just like the autopsy report and body. Nothing to see, we found nothing. Really. True. Sad thing is, they could tell us the God's honest truth at this point and they still wouldn't be believed with all the lies they've told. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 2:07:13 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: My guess is that he was looking at something related to the rally or the site. Maybe google maps/earth. Maybe a schedule of who was speaking when. Thought I heard one time he was watching live stream waiting for Trump to take the stage |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 4:28:26 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Thought I heard one time he was watching live stream waiting for Trump to take the stage This actually makes sense. |
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