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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:48:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No manual transmission and they have the audacity to call it a "sports car".  |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:49:48 AM EDT
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This all falls under "don't buy the first year of a major redesign."
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:50:33 AM EDT
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Sure, y'all wouldn't take one if it was thrown at you, right?
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:51:17 AM EDT
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When will it stop?
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:51:24 AM EDT
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The car is built by the lowest bidder for the lowest bidders, is this a surprise?
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:55:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it's hard to make fluid filled brake lines that don't rust. GM has an issue in that area. Of course they could talk to, I don't know, ANYONE ELSE in the auto industry to fix that problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Drive my wire makes sense. If it fails you just wont go. Stop by wire on the other hand...............great thinking GM. Well, it's hard to make fluid filled brake lines that don't rust. GM has an issue in that area. Of course they could talk to, I don't know, ANYONE ELSE in the auto industry to fix that problem. If that's the case, maybe Toyota could give them some advice. They didnt have framed rotting out under their trucks or anything like that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:56:00 AM EDT
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I've said a million times, the easiest way to make your car/motorcycle insanely fast is to disconnect the brakes.
Looks like GM listened. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 8:56:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But we bailed them out....and saved JOBS! Granted they were Chinese Jobs, but Obongo SAVED JOBS!!!!!! Don’t forget Mexican jobs. He saves those, too. FBHO. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:01:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The shifter on my wife’s Failblazer is the same. When that solenoid failed we couldn’t drive the truck. Just put a fucking cable there like a normal car company. The future is not “brake by wire” Correct. The future is drive by computer. You won’t even get to push any of the pedals.  |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:02:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLet's see the rest of that Jeep! |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:03:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But we were all assured by GD the the C8 corvette was as good as the exotics Exotics break down all the time. Every car does. Every manufacturer has stop sales and recalls. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:06:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Normal. First year new platform with wiring issues is common no matter the brand. Anyone who has worked at a new car dealership service department will tell you " New Platform, first year will have issues." if you can wait to buy , then wait. No matter the brand, they all have issues if it's a completely new platform. Yep. The 2014 MDX was a nightmare for us. The 2019 RDX had a lot of issues from the start as well. Buy any 2015 MDX and up or 2020 RDX and up. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:06:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn't being called a "recall," owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it's broken." A frunk is a front trunk...... It is a mid engine car 
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:07:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The shifter on my wife’s Failblazer is the same. When that solenoid failed we couldn’t drive the truck. Just put a fucking cable there like a normal car company. The future is not “brake by wire” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: GM makes very little of their own parts. Also the most important thing when ordering parts from vendors is price so you get a lot of low quality terminals that create electrical systems that don’t work 100% of the time. Also as the vehicle ages even 2-3 years problems really arise. The brake pedal on the C8 is not mechanical connected to the booster/master cylinder in any way, instead a sensor sends the pedal position to the EBCM and it decides how much pressure to apply. The shifter on my wife’s Failblazer is the same. When that solenoid failed we couldn’t drive the truck. Just put a fucking cable there like a normal car company. The future is not “brake by wire” No one is using cables. Everything is going by wire. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:08:57 AM EDT
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Seriously though, name a auto manufacturer that hasn’t issued a recall of some sort, at some point. It’s really not a big deal.
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:09:51 AM EDT
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Brakes, steering and throttle should stay analog.
Screw drive by wire tech. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:11:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they are frucking fretarded. It is a Trunk in the front of the vehicle. Hence they call it a Frunk. There are 2 trunks on the C8. A Front trunk "Frunk" and a trunk in the rear behind the engine. What would you call them to differentiate them? |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ummm... that's what they call the front trunk area. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn’t being called a “recall,” owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it’s broken." ummm... that's what they call the front trunk area. ‘ Yeah....it’s kinda like a FUPA. . |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:15:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it doesn't activate the booster pump. Most brake boosters work off engine vacuum, this one doesn't. These have been around for decades frankly, most diesel non air brake systems use something similar. Diesels are very poor at making usable vacuum for brake systems. Yep, common on heavier trucks with juice brakes. They’re a bitch to stop if there’s an issue with the pump. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:16:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn’t being called a “recall,” owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it’s broken."  Do you know where the "trunk" is on a C8? |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:17:16 AM EDT
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Meh, it's going to have a few teething issues early on, being new and so revolutionary, and I'd wager they are being overly cautious. Doesn't change my opinion of the world's first affordable super car. But GD gonna GD.
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:17:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's the case, maybe Toyota could give them some advice. They didnt have framed rotting out under their trucks or anything like that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Drive my wire makes sense. If it fails you just wont go. Stop by wire on the other hand...............great thinking GM. Well, it's hard to make fluid filled brake lines that don't rust. GM has an issue in that area. Of course they could talk to, I don't know, ANYONE ELSE in the auto industry to fix that problem. If that's the case, maybe Toyota could give them some advice. They didnt have framed rotting out under their trucks or anything like that. Absolutely agree. I've shot my mouth off for years on Yota forums that they should galvanize them. Problem solved, BOOM, just like that. Body's hold up extremely well and have for 20 years now. Domestics are opposite, the bodies rot like hell, the frames are decent. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:17:52 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No suprised ! GM hasnt made anything worth a damn in a very long time. The C8 is a super car for $60k. Go ahead a name a manufacturer that makes every single part in house. I will wait.... |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:19:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But we were all assured by GD the the C8 corvette was as good as the exotics Do you even know anything about supercars? |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:22:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The car is built by the lowest bidder for the lowest bidders, is this a surprise? Do you know a single thing about Corvettes?
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:23:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a Trunk in the front of the vehicle. Hence they call it a Frunk. There are 2 trunks on the C8. A Front trunk "Frunk" and a trunk in the rear behind the engine. What would you call them to differentiate them? The rear is either a rear deck lid, rear hatch/gate, or engine cover. The front can be a trunk as a trunk doesn’t have to be in the back. Or call it a bonnet like the brits do. “Frunk” is not a word. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:23:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing quite as entertaining as working in the Service Department of a dealership where inexperienced, middle-aged drivers are bringing in their sports cars for not being able to stop correctly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn’t being called a “recall,” owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it’s broken." Nothing quite as entertaining as working in the Service Department of a dealership where inexperienced, middle-aged drivers are bringing in their sports cars for not being able to stop correctly. Probably because all the young drivers who are experienced sport car drivers have factory rides. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:24:27 AM EDT
[#28]
Still want one.
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:28:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exotics break down all the time. Every car does. Every manufacturer has stop sales and recalls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But we were all assured by GD the the C8 corvette was as good as the exotics Exotics break down all the time. Every car does. Every manufacturer has stop sales and recalls. No ones arguing super cars don’t have issues. Of course they do. There were many on here saying it would replace the exotics. At the end of the day it’s still GM with GM quality that many are paying 30-50% premiums for. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:29:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a Trunk in the front of the vehicle. Hence they call it a Frunk. There are 2 trunks on the C8. A Front trunk "Frunk" and a trunk in the rear behind the engine. What would you call them to differentiate them? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well they are frucking fretarded. It is a Trunk in the front of the vehicle. Hence they call it a Frunk. There are 2 trunks on the C8. A Front trunk "Frunk" and a trunk in the rear behind the engine. What would you call them to differentiate them? The term frunk was not invented by Chevrolet. It has been around for generations on mid engine cars. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:29:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:33:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The C8 is a super car for $60k. Go ahead a name a manufacturer that makes every single part in house. I will wait.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No suprised ! GM hasnt made anything worth a damn in a very long time. The C8 is a super car for $60k. Go ahead a name a manufacturer that makes every single part in house. I will wait.... Even Lamborghini outsorces parts. Remember the Diablo? It has black trim around the headlight lenses. Why? To cover up the "NISSAN" logo. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:36:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No suprised ! GM hasnt made anything worth a damn in a very long time. C6 seemed solid? As does the C7. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:38:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The term frunk was not invented by Chevrolet. It has been around for generations on mid engine cars. I am aware of that. I never suggested that GM was the one who coined the name. But apparently the original poster was not aware of the name. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:39:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's the case, maybe Toyota could give them some advice. They didnt have framed rotting out under their trucks or anything like that. Like the frame on my ‘93 4x4 truck.
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:41:31 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryInteresting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:42:11 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even know anything about supercars? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But we were all assured by GD the the C8 corvette was as good as the exotics Do you even know anything about supercars? Lol, a lot of the big name exotics break, a lot. / maintenance whores. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:42:45 AM EDT
[#38]
So...it's "BROKEN NEWS"?
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:45:01 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is using cables. Everything is going by wire. Wire made with "green" soy based wiring coatings? Rodents seem to appreciate that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:46:14 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, a lot of the big name exotics break, a lot. / maintenance whores. Exactly. They are literally broken all the time just from driving them. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:46:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. Funny how many old guys have no idea it was always the the goal. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:46:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China wires, China Connections, China bullshit processor controlling everything. Millions sunk into engineering, down the shitter. GM is it's own biggest competitor, and the obvious is lost in board room. + Indian programmers |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:47:33 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn’t being called a “recall,” owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it’s broken." It’s a common term that a “front trunk” is called a frunk. When I drove a Porsche that’s what they called it too. And Tesla’s call it the same |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:48:12 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. Lol old fucks around have them. Corvettes are  My Dad has a 66 and he thinks I want when he's gone. It'll be the first thing sold. Boring and ugly. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. They are literally broken all the time just from driving them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol, a lot of the big name exotics break, a lot. / maintenance whores. Exactly. They are literally broken all the time just from driving them. Or just from sitting over winter, undriven. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:50:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a common term that a “front trunk” is called a frunk. When I drove a Porsche that’s what they called it too. And Tesla’s call it the same Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm really impressed with the C8. Looks like supplier QC on electrical connections. Gotta love editorial proof reading though: "The C8 has been recently recalled for several issues, including a malfunctioning frunk latch, as well as for an emergency system that could fail to stop people from getting stuck in said frunk. While this brake issue isn’t being called a “recall,” owners will need to take the vehicle into a dealership to fix their Corvette if it’s broken." It’s a common term that a “front trunk” is called a frunk. When I drove a Porsche that’s what they called it too. And Tesla’s call it the same Lol, you expected maybe, only car people to speak, come on now this is GD where everyone has an opinion to share, even if they don't know crap about the subject matter. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:51:37 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, a lot of the big name exotics break, a lot. / maintenance whores. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: But we were all assured by GD the the C8 corvette was as good as the exotics Do you even know anything about supercars? Lol, a lot of the big name exotics break, a lot. / maintenance whores. One of my customers runs an exotic car rental business. They are maintenance whores. I see his NSX for occasional warranty work. He said the NSX is by far the best in that department. His Lamborghinis are a close second. He had one McLaren burn to the ground after the strut leaked on to the turbo and went on about problem after problem with his Ferraris. If a super car built by Acura had a fuel tank recall I don't understand why GD thinks GM can't have one for the C8. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:52:19 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol old fucks around have them. Corvettes are My Dad has a 66 and he thinks I want when he's gone. It'll be the first thing sold. Boring and ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. Lol old fucks around have them. Corvettes are My Dad has a 66 and he thinks I want when he's gone. It'll be the first thing sold. Boring and ugly. You disappoint me, they're great for a stylish cruiser. Just want to go puutter around in the mountains with style? Great choice. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:53:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wire made with "green" soy based wiring coatings? Rodents seem to appreciate that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No one is using cables. Everything is going by wire. Wire made with "green" soy based wiring coatings? Rodents seem to appreciate that. Rodents have been eating wires for the 21 years I have been working on cars. And fuel lines. And gas tanks. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:56:11 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol old fucks around have them. Corvettes are My Dad has a 66 and he thinks I want when he's gone. It'll be the first thing sold. Boring and ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting. Someone else who knows nothing about the C8. Old guys dont like them. Lol old fucks around have them. Corvettes are My Dad has a 66 and he thinks I want when he's gone. It'll be the first thing sold. Boring and ugly. There has never been a Corvette that was boring and ugly. |
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