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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:25:34 AM EDT
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2 KC135’s and a C17 over ME right now. More barroom friends?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:25:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is super fucking gay that I have to say this, but should we be worried about expending our current generation air-to-air missiles on fucking balloons? I'm sure we're not cranking them out in any meaningful volume. Only the first one was a balloon. The last three have been smaller UAV-type objects, with one of them being the size of a car and one of them shaped like an octagon.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:29:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone remember the weather barroons you could buy from Edmund's Scientific? Now would be a good time to get them out of Mom's attic and use them. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:32:59 AM EDT
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Am I in before we figure out that Bill Gates or some other stupidly wealthy supervillian has been paying somebody to launch balloons and spread aluminum dust or some other reflective matter at high altitudes to reflect sunlight back into space to reduce global temps?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:35:56 AM EDT
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Interesting that MSN was involved in this and just last week Biden was in town. He gave a spiel at a labor union center but was in town for quite a while so he must have been involved in some other business.
Ok…tin foil is off now. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:36:40 AM EDT
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If this is a promo for the U2 Achtung Baby concert I am gonna be pissed.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:41:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this is a promo for the U2 Achtung Baby concert I am gonna be pissed. It sounds much more Zooropa/Popmart to me, but agreed. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:42:58 AM EDT
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NEACAP dropped off after going past St. Johns out into the Atlantic. There's a VIP 737 along with it. Both took off from Andrews. Off to get some tinfoil for my hat
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:04:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was just collecting weather data. Yeah, weather or not we could detect it or do anything about it |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:04:57 AM EDT
[#10]
 Attached File Attached FileIt would be totally believable and even anticipated that this administration would shoot down our own assets. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:06:08 AM EDT
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I would never have guessed that the US military would be using fighter jets and missles for air defense of our country and we'd have a president so incompetent that he is kept out of sight during this.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:41:09 AM EDT
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Beijing says U.S. balloons have flown in Chinese airspace
 Beijing says U.S. balloons have flown in Chinese airspace |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:42:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The US is an interesting nut to crack. Especially west to east. Imagine somehow 10,000,000 Chinese troops, land up and down the west coast. You have three horrible gun control states. And as you move east, progressively more and more difficult. Mountains. I would argue the west coast would be easier to attack than the east. Assuming no nukes. Then Alaska and Hawaii are strange birds. I don’t want an attack on our country. But if I had a holodeck. I’d simulate the shit out of it just to see what happens Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: after the 3rd one you really gotta ask...wtf is going on  Russia/China pre-invasion stuff. Pre invasion of the mainland US? The US is an interesting nut to crack. Especially west to east. Imagine somehow 10,000,000 Chinese troops, land up and down the west coast. You have three horrible gun control states. And as you move east, progressively more and more difficult. Mountains. I would argue the west coast would be easier to attack than the east. Assuming no nukes. Then Alaska and Hawaii are strange birds. I don’t want an attack on our country. But if I had a holodeck. I’d simulate the shit out of it just to see what happens We don’t have to imagine. How many Chinese nationals live, work or study here in the US? Never mind the ones who secretly and illegally crossed our borders. Imagine if during the 30’s we had placed 50,000 American servicemen in Germany before WW2 started… |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:47:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100426_jpg-2709430.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100421_jpg-2709431.JPG It would be totally believable and even anticipated that this administration would shoot down our own assets. WTH , I probably read that but didn't retain it , they'll have to lie their asses off to save face and not look like the idiots they are . |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:56:07 AM EDT
[#15]
They still haven't recovered the three objects shot down and no word from Biden.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:59:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sounded like he didnt know much about it and wasnt going to speculate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:  ETA: It sure sounded to me like the commander of domestic air defense didn't know how the object was airborne. It sounded like he didnt know much about it and wasnt going to speculate. You should probably know what an object is before shooting it down. It’s either incompetence, or a controversial object. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 12:38:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 12:40:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/13/2023 12:42:37 PM EDT
[#19]
end thread, I've solved the mystery. It's these morons.....
 The Boy and the Balloon |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 12:48:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don’t have to imagine. How many Chinese nationals live, work or study here in the US? Never mind the ones who secretly and illegally crossed our borders. Imagine if during the 30’s we had placed 50,000 American servicemen in Germany before WW2 started… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: after the 3rd one you really gotta ask...wtf is going on Russia/China pre-invasion stuff. Pre invasion of the mainland US? The US is an interesting nut to crack. Especially west to east. Imagine somehow 10,000,000 Chinese troops, land up and down the west coast. You have three horrible gun control states. And as you move east, progressively more and more difficult. Mountains. I would argue the west coast would be easier to attack than the east. Assuming no nukes. Then Alaska and Hawaii are strange birds. I don’t want an attack on our country. But if I had a holodeck. I’d simulate the shit out of it just to see what happens We don’t have to imagine. How many Chinese nationals live, work or study here in the US? Never mind the ones who secretly and illegally crossed our borders. Imagine if during the 30’s we had placed 50,000 American servicemen in Germany before WW2 started…  In before the calls for internment camps |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 12:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should probably know what an object is before shooting it down. It's either incompetence, or a controversial object. That means they have identified it enough to shoot it down. It's ridiculous to demand they know the serial number, whether it has propellers or gas inside the cylinder. Also ridiculous to tell the enemy exactly what we know about the object and what sensors we used. Also, sometimes generals lie. So you got that part right. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 1:19:20 PM EDT
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Former DNI John Ratcliffe: 'One of these is not like the other'
 Former DNI John Ratcliffe: 'One of these is not like the other' |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:26:56 PM EDT
[#23]
WH Presser - LIVE
 White House holds briefing after more floating objects shot down |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:28:49 PM EDT
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Kirby: The one downed over Lake Huron is somewhere in deep water.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:32:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Kirby using the term UAP repeatedly in this press briefing… calling it a world wide issue. Being vague about ownership. US consulting with its Allies.
Press openly asking where the hell is Biden… |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um. We can't actually view other solar systems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We can view other solar systems but can't get a decent picture of any of these? I smell BS.  m |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:36:10 PM EDT
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Kirby: We’re seeing more objects now because we’re looking for them now.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:37:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kirby: We’re seeing more objects now because we’re looking for them now. Honk honk! |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:41:06 PM EDT
[#29]
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:43:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the calls for internment camps Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: after the 3rd one you really gotta ask...wtf is going on Russia/China pre-invasion stuff. Pre invasion of the mainland US? The US is an interesting nut to crack. Especially west to east. Imagine somehow 10,000,000 Chinese troops, land up and down the west coast. You have three horrible gun control states. And as you move east, progressively more and more difficult. Mountains. I would argue the west coast would be easier to attack than the east. Assuming no nukes. Then Alaska and Hawaii are strange birds. I don’t want an attack on our country. But if I had a holodeck. I’d simulate the shit out of it just to see what happens We don’t have to imagine. How many Chinese nationals live, work or study here in the US? Never mind the ones who secretly and illegally crossed our borders. Imagine if during the 30’s we had placed 50,000 American servicemen in Germany before WW2 started… In before the calls for internment camps We'll just call them ICE Detention Centers instead. modern problems... |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:44:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? The smooth brain libs will think Trump was sitting at a console and missed them. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:47:52 PM EDT
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this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? The word is NORAD was using certain filters to filter out the small stuff. After the debacle of the large Chinese balloon they turned off those filters and went back and looked at the RAW data from years past and were now able to see the new smaller objects. So basically for YEARS the Chinese were able to float spy balloons in airspace and collect our data without NORAD even knowing. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:51:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honk honk! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kirby: We're seeing more objects now because we're looking for them now. Honk honk! They honestly expect us to believe our enemies could have dangled a fucking nuclear bomb under a balloon and floated it over our country undetected? I call bullshit and I call it with the utmost conviction. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:51:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NEACAP dropped off after going past St. Johns out into the Atlantic. There's a VIP 737 along with it. Both took off from Andrews. Off to get some tinfoil for my hat I saw that, along with quite a few G500 mil VIP transport planes heading out of DC... |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:54:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beijing says U.S. balloons have flown in Chinese airspace  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLyrqH57LzYThat pretty much guarantees it was Chinese. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:57:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The smooth brain libs will think Trump was sitting at a console and missed them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? The smooth brain libs will think Trump was sitting at a console and missed them. How does his statement make sense? How would they know if they didn’t see them? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 KC135’s and a C17 over ME right now. More barroom friends? The 101st air refueling wing is stationed in Bangor. Both types are flying in and out of there all the time, hard to say if it’s related or not. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The word is NORAD was using certain filters to filter out the small stuff. After the debacle of the large Chinese balloon they turned off those filters and went back and looked at the RAW data from years past and were now able to see the new smaller objects. So basically for YEARS the Chinese were able to float spy balloons in airspace and collect our data without NORAD even knowing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? The word is NORAD was using certain filters to filter out the small stuff. After the debacle of the large Chinese balloon they turned off those filters and went back and looked at the RAW data from years past and were now able to see the new smaller objects. So basically for YEARS the Chinese were able to float spy balloons in airspace and collect our data without NORAD even knowing. Now when the Canada geese start migrating back up north they will get an F-22 escort if they don't get shot at first |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:03:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The word is NORAD was using certain filters to filter out the small stuff. After the debacle of the large Chinese balloon they turned off those filters and went back and looked at the RAW data from years past and were now able to see the new smaller objects. So basically for YEARS the Chinese were able to float spy balloons in airspace and collect our data without NORAD even knowing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? The word is NORAD was using certain filters to filter out the small stuff. After the debacle of the large Chinese balloon they turned off those filters and went back and looked at the RAW data from years past and were now able to see the new smaller objects. So basically for YEARS the Chinese were able to float spy balloons in airspace and collect our data without NORAD even knowing. That's how doppler radar works. Kinda cool that we have the old raw data to refilter. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They honestly expect us to believe our enemies could have dangled a fucking nuclear bomb under a balloon and floated it over our country undetected? I call bullshit and I call it with the utmost conviction. But for the grace of God we exist at all times moments from total annihilation. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:25:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:26:48 PM EDT
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Top Biden Spox John Kirby Says Officials Have Not Yet Recovered "Payload" From Chinese Spy Balloon
 Top Biden Spox John Kirby Says Officials Have Not Yet Recovered "Payload" From Chinese Spy Balloon |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:35:04 PM EDT
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On "Objects" Flying Over US, Canada, John Kirby Says Biden Admin Has "Been As Transparent As We Can"
 On "Objects" Flying Over US, Canada, John Kirby Says Biden Admin Has "Been As Transparent As We Can" Kirby Points To Recent Biden "Decisions" To Know America's Borders Are "Secure"  Top Biden Spox John Kirby Points To Recent Biden "Decisions" To Know America's Borders Are "Secure" |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100426_jpg-2709430.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100421_jpg-2709431.JPG It would be totally believable and even anticipated that this administration would shoot down our own assets. Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100426_jpg-2709430.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230213_100421_jpg-2709431.JPG It would be totally believable and even anticipated that this administration would shoot down our own assets. That was a bit of a flap here, but capabilities were mentioned.. 4 years later and Chinese military tech has at minimum, the same abilities of these drug interdiction balloons and more (from WiFi networks to cell phones in the RF spectrum). Which crossed the US before anything was done and were written off since "UFOs aren't real, we know everything that is up there" prior to that. Two successful "risk reduction" test flights were conducted near Baltic, about 20 miles north of Sioux Falls, on July 11 and Aug. 7. During each launch, a single "stratolight" launched from South Dakota and landed in Iowa, according to Lt. Col. Chris Mitchell, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Defense. The stratolight flew as planned for six hours and collected high-quality imagery from an altitude of 50,000 feet. Concerns were raised last week that the balloon were carrying sensors that could detect every vehicle in motion in a 25-mile range beneath the balloon. However, Mitchell said no tracking information was collected during these flights, and none will be collected on future flights. "These tests fully comply with U.S. law, to include the law's prohibition of surveillance activities directed at U.S. citizens," Mitchell said in a statement. full Article |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:09:06 PM EDT
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Karine Jean-Pierre Abruptly Ends Her Press Briefing After Answering ZERO Questions Herself
 Karine Jean-Pierre Abruptly Ends Her Press Briefing After Answering ZERO Questions Herself |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
this administration is so full of shit. how do they know they existed if they couldn't detect them? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kirby: We're seeing more objects now because we're looking for them now. So NORAD wasn't monitoring North American airspace until somebody in Montana spotted a balloon? WTF |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:19:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Austin speaking now
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:19:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So NORAD wasn't monitoring North American airspace until somebody in Montana spotted a balloon? WTFThat is correct, it took a civilian to alert NORAD. 
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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The smooth brain libs will think Trump was sitting at a console and missed them. At the same time he was doing his own taxes. The man is multi-talented. |
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