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Link Posted: 8/7/2018 4:25:00 PM EDT
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I'm Colombian (born here though).  Kinda sorta Feel obligated to buy one
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 4:27:51 PM EDT
[#2]
LoL , fuck that trigger pull.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 4:49:18 PM EDT
[#3]
I want to know more about the Galil that is not an ACE behind them.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 5:17:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/7/2018 5:22:26 PM EDT
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Goddamn it, every fucking time!
(beat to the punch)
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:05:31 PM EDT
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LOL
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:07:38 PM EDT
[#7]
They use to make the Israeli Jericho under license.  
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This looks like it has a lot of the Jericho 941 styling .
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:11:38 PM EDT
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Or the holster...  
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:21:30 PM EDT
[#9]
its looks like a copy of every plastic pistol made in the last 30 years but crappier.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:21:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Cordova. Hmm.

Is the holster fine Corinthian leather?
Are the stocks mahogany?

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Nice writeup. Thanks for posting this.

Wish someone would import Indumil Galils!
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:26:22 PM EDT
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/11-1.jpg

INDUMIL's three models, Compact, Service, & Tactical. Image courtesy of INDUMIL.

As someone that speaks English as a second language, the ebb and flow of firearms development and ownership outside of the US is of interest. Latin America is especially in my sphere since Spanish is my first language and the primary one I speak at home. So when my friends down south told me of a new pistol and that it came from a country that borders Brazil. I was all ears.

Colombia, that wonderful South American nation that neighbors Venezuela (the example of what Socialism leads to). A country that for most Americans is known simply because of Cocaine, Narco-Terrorist Pablo Escobar, and the Narcos television show on Netflix.

Colombia actually has a domestic arms industry. INDUMIL (short for Industria Militar Colombiana) is a state owned arms factory founded in 1954 and headquartered in Bogota with a factory in Sogamoso. Originally founded to repair the various Mausers and later the HK G3 in service. INDUMIL branched out when the Colombian Government adopted the Galil in 5.56 as their service rifle back in 1992. Since then, INDUMIL has had a very close partnership with Israel and now actually makes the Galil and exports them to neighboring countries and even produces parts for IWI.

With that partnership, INDUMIL grew in experience and confidence and struck out on their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjinR-ZauE

Named after Colombian War of Independence and "Lion of Ayacucho", General Jos Mara Crdova Muoz. The Cordova is a modern production pistol with the common features you'd expect today. Slide mounted safety, standard breech locked tilt barrel, double/single action, hammer fired 9mm pistol with a capacity of 15rds and an accessory rail.

It is initially designed for Government Agencies and the Armed Forces of Colombia; at the beginning of 2014, the first production run of 500 units was made exclusively for the Ministry of Defense, planning to export it same year. The tests at first were positive and the pistol began its commercialization in the Colombian private market, being able to be acquired by some active military, others in retirement, as well as private security personnel and police.

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After the initial release, users found some flaws, especially in feeding. In December 2014, INDUMIL, issued a recall of all production and production of the Cordova stopped completely because the factory concentrated solely on the correction of the failures that pistols had. By May 2015, 75% of the guns on the market had been corrected, by August 2015, 99% of the pistols were ready, and full commercial production started again in September of that year.

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In June 2016, the current version of the gun was launched and was subjected to the National Institute of Justice standards testing for the Colombian National Police, along with the Ministry of Defense  Army of Colombia testing, with results that showed that not only the pistol exceeded but also excelled in what the Colombian Government wanted.

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Now currently in service with the Colombian Army, National Penitentiary and Prison Institute, National Protection Unit, Colombian National Police, various Private Security Companies, and also now for general civilian sale (if one is so lucky to get a permit). The pistol has for the most part been serving with little to no issue. The Colombian National Police's elite Anti-Kidnapping & Anti-Extortion unit, known as Grupo GAULA also adopted the Cordova as their official sidearm.

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The pistols weighs in at 1.7lbs and has an 11lb double action pull and a 8lb single action pull. On the dust cover of the frame is a MIL-1913 accessory rail with a removable cover. The back strap is replaceable so the shooter can have different grip profiles. Also the magazine release is fully ambidextrous.

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The barrel is 4.4 inches long and has hexagonal rifling. Overall length is 7.8 inches and as an extra option, it can come with tritium night sights.

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Capacity as mentioned is 15+1 and on the general civilian market in Colombia, it is 9+1. Yup, in Colombia, you're limited to 10rds total in the gun, not just the magazine.

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It has gained popularity in Colombia and potential export to other markets is possible. Back in 2017, INDUMIL told Jane's Defence Weekly that they were in talks with possible importers for the US and Canadian markets. According to the article;

In mid-September [2017] INDUMIL sent 10 pistols to a prospective client in the United States and three to Mexico, seeking to open North American markets. It is also in talks with possible buyers in Guatemala, Honduras, and Ecuador.
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English print brochure courtesy of INDUMIL

Has anything beneficial come of INDUMIL's talks with possible importers? At the moment, no official word. But anything is possible. Century Arms could in theory, since they have a history of importing guns from Latin America in the past. Or possibly Eagle Arms since they import Bersa from Argentina. If INDUMIL does it right, Taurus might have some competition. The Cordova is already exported to Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina. Maybe we might soon see it here in US gun shops.
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Looks interesting. Hope it gets imported.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:26:39 PM EDT
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+1

Kinda interested, need to know price and if its shit, first.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:35:27 PM EDT
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no the holster that comes with it is made of it..
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 6:55:56 PM EDT
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Maybe this guy @Superluckycat

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yawn

Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:02:35 PM EDT
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Already rusting on rear sight and slide serrations
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:10:01 PM EDT
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I want to know more about the Galil that is not an ACE behind them.
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They make the Fusil Galil

https://www.indumil.gov.co/product/fusil-galil-2/

They supply various Latin American users of the Galil with parts and support.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:11:13 PM EDT
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Maybe this guy @Superluckycat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxuI38EUQ04
yawn

At least he's wearing a made in China NRA hat.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:11:24 PM EDT
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Maybe this guy @Superluckycat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxuI38EUQ04
yawn

At least he's wearing a made in China NRA hat.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:12:28 PM EDT
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Maybe this guy @Superluckycat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxuI38EUQ04
yawn

At least he's wearing a made in China NRA hat.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:16:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Looks sorta like a PX4.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:19:42 PM EDT
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Reminds me of a Jericho 941.
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Same here
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:20:53 PM EDT
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Reminds me of a Jericho 941.
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Came to say it looks like the crotch-fruit of a Jericho and a H&K Usp.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:23:33 PM EDT
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'MURICA

eta: Honestly looks no better or worse than the EAA offerings over the years. Kinda want...
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:34:07 PM EDT
[#24]
8lb single action pull is really excessive..
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 7:48:40 PM EDT
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Still better than a FN Forty-Nine and first and second generation Sigma.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 8:06:36 PM EDT
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Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it was a mistake or they're not smart enough to engineer a lighter pull trigger. I wonder if the designers are terrified of the gun going off if it's dropped or somebody having an ND?
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 8:06:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Zona de agarre!
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 8:11:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Ok, take my money.

Looks like a cross between a Storm and a P-07.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 8:24:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Am I in time to make the joke about fine Corinthian leather?  
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 8:25:38 PM EDT
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Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it was a mistake or they're not smart enough to engineer a lighter pull trigger. I wonder if the designers are terrified of the gun going off if it's dropped or somebody having an ND?
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Still better than a FN Forty-Nine and first and second generation Sigma.
Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it was a mistake or they're not smart enough to engineer a lighter pull trigger. I wonder if the designers are terrified of the gun going off if it's dropped or somebody having an ND?
I think they don't want someone to go on single action and blow some young narcotraficante away when he's held at gun point.
Link Posted: 8/7/2018 11:32:20 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm in on this if only for the historical reason.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 2:45:26 AM EDT
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Already rusting on rear sight and slide serrations
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If they are doing environmental testing that makes sense.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 2:47:32 AM EDT
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Did anyone post that Cordova isn’t Córdoba the Chrysler with Corinthian leather everyone kept posting
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I thought Cordova was a variant/archaic spelling of Cordoba?
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 4:57:36 AM EDT
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Looks like a M&P and a Jericho / baby eagle had an abortion.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 6:04:21 AM EDT
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Heavy ass trigger pull.
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was coming here to post that

They must have taken some design cues / q's / ques from the NYPD
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 6:14:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/8/2018 6:25:20 AM EDT
[#37]
Ricardo Montalban For Chrysler (1975)




Sort of want but not a fan of the heavy DA/SA trigger pull
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 1:32:16 PM EDT
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Don't recall offhand but well over $1,000, probably closer to $1,250
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How much?
Don't recall offhand but well over $1,000, probably closer to $1,250
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Link Posted: 8/8/2018 1:35:45 PM EDT
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If they price it below the HS2000 it might be a success.
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I got my HS2000 for $310.  Of course, that was several years ago, before Springfield got involved.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 1:42:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Slide mounted safety, heavy trigger pull and too chunky.

I rate it  2 out of 5 mehs.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 1:47:49 PM EDT
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Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it was a mistake or they're not smart enough to engineer a lighter pull trigger. I wonder if the designers are terrified of the gun going off if it's dropped or somebody having an ND?
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Still better than a FN Forty-Nine and first and second generation Sigma.
Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it was a mistake or they're not smart enough to engineer a lighter pull trigger. I wonder if the designers are terrified of the gun going off if it's dropped or somebody having an ND?
Maybe someone requested them to be that heavy like the NYPD did?  Didn't they specify a pistol with a heavy-as-hell trigger?
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 7:27:26 PM EDT
[#42]
The Cordova's daddy..
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 7:30:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/8/2018 7:38:02 PM EDT
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That isn't a CZ.... it is made by Arms Moravia of the Czech Republic. Venezuela makes a licensed clone. Their National Arms Company, CAVIM (Compañía Anónima Venezolana de Industrias Militares) makes it as the Zamorana.







Also Colombia and Venezuela are tso different countries with a long history of hating each other.
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:05:27 PM EDT
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Why would you make a gun with polymer that absorbs water? And brag about it?
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:18:24 PM EDT
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You had my interest until I saw the frame safety.

Hard pass on that, looks like a Glock fucked a Beretta.
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Slide safety and Beretta fucked a Deagle.  That thing looks as wide as it is long!

And where's the threaded barrel at???  Everything's gotta have threaded barrels nowadays!
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:23:00 PM EDT
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Is the case made of rich, Corinthian leather?
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:33:35 PM EDT
[#48]
Doesn't look at all like my Jericho 941.

Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:40:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Would be more interested in a Colombian export Galil or G3
Link Posted: 8/8/2018 8:47:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Its Cord-ah-va, not Core-dove-ah.

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