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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:58:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not true. The Trump campaign and its boosters have been faking imagery in attacks against DeSantis for quite some time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's worrisome that many of you are trying to give DeSantis a pass because though you're acknowledging that the images are fake, they "represent" somehow the reality of Trump's choices - so they are OK. That's a CRAZY stance to take. That's a line I would not have expected anyone here to cross and certainly would not have expected DeSantis to be the first one to cross in an election ad. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:01:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe take a breath and consider that this shit is going to be leaking into things without the direct intention to deceive because the person using them doesn't know they are faked. This shit is going to be getting real hard to sift out in the next few years too. Entire videos will be able to be created that are really hard to tell are fake. More interesting times ahead. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:10:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be curious to see what you're alleging from the Trump campaign and portrayed as if it were real. Please provide links to such images and ad campaigns against DeSantis from the Trump campaign.        There's more out there. Trump supporters are in no position to whine about this. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The campaign backing 'Rino Ron' DeSantis as Republican presidential nominee in 2024 has used what experts identify as AI-generated deepfakes in attack ad against rival Donald Trump. On June 5th, the “DeSantis War Room” Twitter account shared a video emphasizing Trump’s support for Anthony Fauci, a former White House chief medical advisor and key figure in developing the US response to COVID-19. Fauci has become a hated figure in right-wing politics, particularly among the anti-vax movement, and the attack ad seeks to grow this base of support for DeSantis by portraying Trump and Fauci as close collaborators. The video includes real clips of Trump discussing Fauci and a collage of six pictures of the two men together. Of the six images, three appear to be AI-generated, showing Trump embracing Fauci. In the collage below they are top-left, bottom-middle, and bottom-right. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23753626/deepfake-political-attack-ad-ron-desantis-donald-trump-anthony-fauci https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/547908/Rino_DeSantis-01-2844160.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/547908/no_more_rino_traitors-2835582.jpg Honestly, considering what Desantis has done as governor of Florida, I do not understand how anyone could label him a RINO. Im not a nevertrumper, I voted for the man twice and would vote for him again if he is chosen as the candidate to run in 2024, but all this anti-Desantis RINO stuff seems like leftist attempts to sow discord and division. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Already posted one upthread. But there's others. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHK_w6WYAIEjIT?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKft0WIAIA-1r?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKfuoXwAAdQs1?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKft3XgAEgvvg?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKfv2X0AESPKQ?format=png&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxE29jLWIAAYya2?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHURZ1XwAE_Nlk?format=jpg&name=small There's more out there. Trump supporters are in no position to whine about this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd be curious to see what you're alleging from the Trump campaign and portrayed as if it were real. Please provide links to such images and ad campaigns against DeSantis from the Trump campaign. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHK_w6WYAIEjIT?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKft0WIAIA-1r?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKfuoXwAAdQs1?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKft3XgAEgvvg?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHKfv2X0AESPKQ?format=png&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxE29jLWIAAYya2?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyHURZ1XwAE_Nlk?format=jpg&name=small There's more out there. Trump supporters are in no position to whine about this. However, what I asked for was something analogous to what the DeSantis presidential campaign did. They published the video using the fake pictures in a collage with real ones. Every one you've posted as justification - none were posted by the Trump presidential campaign itself (other than the one that's clearly satire with Satan and Hitler in it). That's a BIG distinction. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump didn’t go to pedo island. Stop peddling lies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: too early for trump release the desantis underage stuff yet Did Desantis go to Epstein's pedo island Trump did. Has Desantis embraced the LBGTQ movement? Trump did. Has Desantis tried to undermine the second amendment? Trump did. Trump didn’t go to pedo island. Stop peddling lies. I stand corrected. He flew on Epstein's jet multiple times, but he did not visit his island. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/ |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:31:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, considering what Desantis has done as governor of Florida, I do not understand how anyone could label him a RINO. Im not a nevertrumper, I voted for the man twice and would vote for him again if he is chosen as the candidate to run in 2024, but all this anti-Desantis RINO stuff seems like leftists attempt to sow discord and division. It is, just as much of the anti-Trump stuff is to sow dissent. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:32:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stand corrected. He flew on Epstein's jet multiple times, but he did not visit his island. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: too early for trump release the desantis underage stuff yet Did Desantis go to Epstein's pedo island Trump did. Has Desantis embraced the LBGTQ movement? Trump did. Has Desantis tried to undermine the second amendment? Trump did. Trump didn’t go to pedo island. Stop peddling lies. I stand corrected. He flew on Epstein's jet multiple times, but he did not visit his island. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/ Correct, he also kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago when he figured out what Epstein was doing. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:34:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This election cycle is one massive shit show Yes at this rate, there'll never be another (R) President. We are royally fucked. 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:35:03 PM EDT
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“It’s a great vaccine”
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're going to have to clarify those for me. There will always be those who are associated with candidates that do questionable things. There will always be clear satire. The DeSantis ad was not satire; clearly. However, what I asked for was something analogous to what the DeSantis presidential campaign did. They published the video using the fake pictures in a collage with real ones. Every one you've posted as justification - none were posted by the Trump presidential campaign itself (other than the one that's clearly satire with Satan and Hitler in it). That's a BIG distinction. Carry on with the concern trolling about that meany DeSantis. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:36:48 PM EDT
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First one to start throwing rocks instead of talking about their own platform loses (both argument and election).
That's kind of a guideline and he just sunk his own campaign if DeepFake images were used. Remember, Trump listened to advisors. Advisors who he thought he knew but were plants, like the NRA suggesting the bump stock ban and Fauci discussing best way to handle flu. Remember when Covid first came out and Trump said "What's the big deal? It's just the flu." yet people attack him for that and for the actions of an agency he couldn't control putting out shitloads of propaganda for masks and stabs. A President is Isn't a dictator and Trump was being attacked every day of his term for multiple insults/lies/threats and propaganda against him (which many bought). Trump wasn't being attacked for something, most of the time it was for something he could not directly change. Hindsight is 20/20 and people forget the era since Biden has out stupided basically everybody and people only have fuzzy memory of event around decision from 5 years ago and just go by the MSM version which is mostly what is found with a Google search. He couldn't can Fauci or the NSA or CIA directors because that would be "evidence" of him covering up something that didn't even happen. Tons of Catch-22s were put in his path. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did Trump fire Fauci? No? Then he embraced Fauci and those Fauci represents... imo Quote HistoryQuoted: Did Trump fire Fauci? No? Then he embraced Fauci and those Fauci represents... imo Issued on: January 19, 2021 Today, President Donald J. Trump awarded Presidential Commendations to the below individuals in recognition of their exceptional efforts on Operation Warp Speed: General Mark Milley Secretary Alex Azar Jared Kushner Dr. Moncef Slaoui General Gustave Perna Dr. Deborah Birx Dr. Anthony Fauci Adam Boehler Brad Smith David Norquist On his last full day in office, Trump gave Fauci a commendation, and that isn't AI. 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: too early for trump release the desantis underage stuff yet     
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First one to start throwing rocks instead of talking about their own platform loses (both argument and election). That's kind of a guideline and he just sunk his own campaign if DeepFake images were used. Remember, Trump listened to advisors. Advisors who he thought he knew but were plants, like the NRA suggesting the bump stock ban and Fauci discussing best way to handle flu. Remember when Covid first came out and Trump said "What's the big deal? It's just the flu." yet people attack him for that and for the actions of an agency he couldn't control putting out shitloads of propaganda for masks and stabs. A President is Isn't a dictator and Trump was being attacked every day of his term for multiple insults/lies/threats and propaganda against him (which many bought). Trump wasn't being attacked for something, most of the time it was for something he could not directly change. Hindsight is 20/20 and people forget the era since Biden has out stupided basically everybody and people only have fuzzy memory of event around decision from 5 years ago and just go by the MSM version which is mostly what is found with a Google search. He couldn't can Fauci or the NSA or CIA directors because that would be "evidence" of him covering up something that didn't even happen. Tons of Catch-22s were put in his path. Classic “What did you expect him to dooooooo?” Defense. Was he advised to give Fauci a Presidential Commendation? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct, he also kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago when he figured out what Epstein was doing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: too early for trump release the desantis underage stuff yet Did Desantis go to Epstein's pedo island Trump did. Has Desantis embraced the LBGTQ movement? Trump did. Has Desantis tried to undermine the second amendment? Trump did. Trump didn’t go to pedo island. Stop peddling lies. I stand corrected. He flew on Epstein's jet multiple times, but he did not visit his island. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/ Correct, he also kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago when he figured out what Epstein was doing. I believe that. All I am saying is neither Trump nor Desantis are leftist moles. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:46:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First one to start throwing rocks instead of talking about their own platform loses (both argument and election). That's kind of a guideline and he just sunk his own campaign if DeepFake images were used. Remember, Trump listened to advisors. Advisors who he thought he knew but were plants, like the NRA suggesting the bump stock ban and Fauci discussing best way to handle flu. Remember when Covid first came out and Trump said "What's the big deal? It's just the flu." yet people attack him for that and for the actions of an agency he couldn't control putting out shitloads of propaganda for masks and stabs. A President is Isn't a dictator and Trump was being attacked every day of his term for multiple insults/lies/threats and propaganda against him (which many bought). Trump wasn't being attacked for something, most of the time it was for something he could not directly change. Hindsight is 20/20 and people forget the era since Biden has out stupided basically everybody and people only have fuzzy memory of event around decision from 5 years ago and just go by the MSM version which is mostly what is found with a Google search. He couldn't can Fauci or the NSA or CIA directors because that would be "evidence" of him covering up something that didn't even happen. Tons of Catch-22s were put in his path. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:56:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:09:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:11:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did Desantis fly on Epstein's jet? Trump did. Has Desantis embraced the LBGTQ movement? Trump did. Has Desantis tried to undermine the second amendment? Trump did.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ignorance isn't a defense. That's what you're suggesting. They have a duty to vet images they use - especially questionable ones. If they choose not to, then they have a duty to own that mistake and publish a correction. That's a pretty dumb move and calls into question all future pics and claims they make. They put themselves in that position. Seems like a bad choice. Okay... Yeah. The social media age and all but every meme is going to be vetted by a firm. Whatever. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:18:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can tell your mind is already made up so I'm not wasting more time on my day off. Carry on with the concern trolling about that meany DeSantis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're going to have to clarify those for me. There will always be those who are associated with candidates that do questionable things. There will always be clear satire. The DeSantis ad was not satire; clearly. However, what I asked for was something analogous to what the DeSantis presidential campaign did. They published the video using the fake pictures in a collage with real ones. Every one you've posted as justification - none were posted by the Trump presidential campaign itself (other than the one that's clearly satire with Satan and Hitler in it). That's a BIG distinction. Carry on with the concern trolling about that meany DeSantis. Yep. Their liability is absolute. Trump's is entirely limited to only if he hand-crafted the meme or ad featuring the meme. He can't be expected to keep track of all the others? Zero point in the discussion. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:21:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay... Yeah. The social media age and all but every meme is going to be vetted by a firm. Whatever. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:22:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “It’s a great vaccine” -Donald trump Maybe he thought it was , maybe the doctors and multiple CDC physicians told him it was. Key point is he never forced or mandated anyone to take it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:22:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can tell your mind is already made up so I'm not wasting more time on my day off. Carry on with the concern trolling about that meany DeSantis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're going to have to clarify those for me. There will always be those who are associated with candidates that do questionable things. There will always be clear satire. The DeSantis ad was not satire; clearly. However, what I asked for was something analogous to what the DeSantis presidential campaign did. They published the video using the fake pictures in a collage with real ones. Every one you've posted as justification - none were posted by the Trump presidential campaign itself (other than the one that's clearly satire with Satan and Hitler in it). That's a BIG distinction. Carry on with the concern trolling about that meany DeSantis. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:24:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First one to start throwing rocks instead of talking about their own platform loses (both argument and election). That's kind of a guideline and he just sunk his own campaign if DeepFake images were used. Remember, Trump listened to advisors. Advisors who he thought he knew but were plants, like the NRA suggesting the bump stock ban and Fauci discussing best way to handle flu. Remember when Covid first came out and Trump said "What's the big deal? It's just the flu." yet people attack him for that and for the actions of an agency he couldn't control putting out shitloads of propaganda for masks and stabs. A President is Isn't a dictator and Trump was being attacked every day of his term for multiple insults/lies/threats and propaganda against him (which many bought). Trump wasn't being attacked for something, most of the time it was for something he could not directly change. Hindsight is 20/20 and people forget the era since Biden has out stupided basically everybody and people only have fuzzy memory of event around decision from 5 years ago and just go by the MSM version which is mostly what is found with a Google search. He couldn't can Fauci or the NSA or CIA directors because that would be "evidence" of him covering up something that didn't even happen. Tons of Catch-22s were put in his path. He hired and trusted a train of traitors and outright assholes that stabbed him in the back repeatedly. Damn near every major cabinet nomination was a god damned disaster. While it may be true that his path was set with traps everywhere, continuing to get backstabbed after the first 2 years and nominating people that immediately set to undermining you does not make you look brilliant or someone that can find all the best people. I'm sure the 2nd lame duck attempt will be much better though. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:25:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe that. All I am saying is neither Trump nor Desantis are leftist moles. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: too early for trump release the desantis underage stuff yet Did Desantis go to Epstein's pedo island Trump did. Has Desantis embraced the LBGTQ movement? Trump did. Has Desantis tried to undermine the second amendment? Trump did. Trump didn’t go to pedo island. Stop peddling lies. I stand corrected. He flew on Epstein's jet multiple times, but he did not visit his island. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/21/maxwell-case-shows-frequency-trump-clinton-flights-epstein-jets/8980818002/ Correct, he also kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago when he figured out what Epstein was doing. I believe that. All I am saying is neither Trump nor Desantis are leftist moles. I agree. Neither are perfect but they are the best of all candidates that have a chance. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:28:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Why is it that when a story is negative about trump, the “experts” are dismissed as fake news, but when “experts” are cited in a favorable story, they are in fact experts and their views can be assumed to be true? Must be similar to polls……we’ll count them as the holy word if we like the numbers but if we don’t, they are just tools of the deep state.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:36:00 PM EDT
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#neverdesantis
The only way Desantis will ever get my vote is if he wakes up and buries the hatchet with Trump and agrees to be Vice-President. Bottom line is we ALL get behind Trump who is in reality still the legitimate President, or we lose in 2024. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:40:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #neverdesantis The only way Desantis will ever get my vote is if he wakes up and buries the hatchet with Trump and agrees to be Vice-President. Bottom line is we ALL get behind Trump who is in reality still the legitimate President, or we lose in 2024. Capitulating is not "burying a hatchet". If you think otherwise... 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:41:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would have been a massive risk to go against the pandemic promoters and EUA vaccine producers (and mainstream media) and urge folks to be vigilant and stay home when sick and emphasize there is no mandate to vaccinate with an unproven product and leave it to you and your doctor. Every death would have been pinned on him by screeching talking heads. Sounds like something to be fearful of. But instead, DeSantis put together a roundtable of experts in Florida, which didn't include Fauci or the CDC or the WHO, and determined that the Federal government's recommendations were way too conservative, and that it would be more detrimental to keep Florida on lockdown, as the Feds were pushing. So, his administration put together a plan and implemented it in Florida. I haven't heard any screeching of "murderer" toward DeSantis, except what the press was saying then, and of course what Trump was saying a couple months ago. Trump isn't going to quit making shit up, so I'm ok with DeSantis taking a page out of the enemy's (that's Trump and his base) playbook. Right? Trump's arfcommers would be having a total giggle-fest... teeheeheehee. Oh, and all you guys that keep talking shit while having no idea what the facts are...keep it up. You're as transparent as Trump and his buddy Biden. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like something to be fearful of. But instead, DeSantis put together a roundtable of experts in Florida, which didn't include Fauci or the CDC or the WHO, and determined that the Federal government's recommendations were way too conservative, and that it would be more detrimental to keep Florida on lockdown, as the Feds were pushing. So, his administration put together a plan and implemented it in Florida. I haven't heard any screeching of "murderer" toward DeSantis, except what the press was saying then, and of course what Trump was saying a couple months ago. Trump isn't going to quit making shit up, so I'm ok with DeSantis taking a page out of the enemy's (that's Trump and his base) playbook. Right? Trump's arfcommers would be having a total giggle-fest... teeheeheehee. Oh, and all you guys that keep talking shit while having no idea what the facts are...keep it up. You're as transparent as Trump and his buddy Biden. This is now an official TDS thread. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:39:21 PM EDT
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Because trumps camp hasn't used ai or made memes about DeSantis... ffs trunk himself tweets that shit. This isn't even from DeSantises campaign its just a Twitter account.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:41:16 PM EDT
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Trump did suck off Fauci. Even have him a medal in his final day in office...
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:41:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Haha! Not fake!
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIf Desantis is a RINO then on that spectrum, Trump the big city NY values gun-grabbing Democrat is… Bernie Sanders |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Desantis is a RINO then on that spectrum, Trump the big city NY values gun-grabbing Democrat is Bernie Sanders Quote HistoryQuoted: If Desantis is a RINO then on that spectrum, Trump the big city NY values gun-grabbing Democrat is Bernie Sanders |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:51:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe he thought it was , maybe the doctors and multiple CDC physicians told him it was. Key point is he never forced or mandated anyone to take it. This! |
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