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Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:01:47 PM EST
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The Orange Bible

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Orange-Catholic Bible.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:02:02 PM EST
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It was justified. The Cathars were racists.
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Cathar Lives Matter!  
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:03:28 PM EST
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Thanos, Drax, AND Aquaman in the same movie?!?

Aquaman knows it's in the middle of the fucking planet-wide desert right?

Drax VS Shai-Hulud...
"I have single-handedly slain the beast!"
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Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:04:02 PM EST
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Interesting comment: The song being played is a reworking of Pink Floyd's Eclipse from Dark Side of the Moon, which is clearly a nod at Jodorowsky's concept for his original Dune movie; Pink Floyd was set to perform music for that original and I think we may get a beautiful homage to some of Jodorowsky's vision here.
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The Jodorosky Dune would have been an abomination and it was rightly killed. People who saw the documentary and said "oh man it would have been so great!" are an example of how easy it is to manipulate people with a slick media presentation.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:05:11 PM EST
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Also when they watched the Spice Miner getting destroyed - somewhere in the middle?
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:06:18 PM EST
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Wait, who's playing Feyd Rautha?  I don't see the part listed on IMDB.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:06:52 PM EST
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The Jodorosky Dune would have been an abomination and it was rightly killed. People who saw the documentary and said "oh man it would have been so great!" are an example of how easy it is to manipulate people with a slick media presentation.
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Interesting comment: The song being played is a reworking of Pink Floyd's Eclipse from Dark Side of the Moon, which is clearly a nod at Jodorowsky's concept for his original Dune movie; Pink Floyd was set to perform music for that original and I think we may get a beautiful homage to some of Jodorowsky's vision here.


The Jodorosky Dune would have been an abomination and it was rightly killed. People who saw the documentary and said "oh man it would have been so great!" are an example of how easy it is to manipulate people with a slick media presentation.

It would have been an acid trip with Salvador Dali playing the Emperor Shaddam.......
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:07:16 PM EST
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Arguable, in the case of the Crusades for the Holy Land (the Muslims had been in possession of the Holy Land for a loooong time before the Emperor tried to get mercs from Pope Urban....which is what precipitated the First Crusade).


The Northern Crusades (where the Teutonic Knights murdered the shit out of any pagans they saw) were expressly offensive campaigns, meant to colonize and convert the Baltic regions.

The Reconquista was, again, only arguably "defensive", since it began long after the Muslim conquest of most of Iberia.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:07:27 PM EST
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excited
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:07:29 PM EST
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I'm a pretty pessimistic guy about Hollywood's ability to make any movies that don't club you over the head with current day politics but this trailer looks pretty decent.

I loved Bladerunner 2049 (same director) but I'm still leery of some of the woke signaling I've seen in the prerelease press for this movie.

While I'm still not OK with the completely unnecessary gender swapping of Kynes, the rest of the casting seems pretty dang good. Jason Momoa in particular looks like a great Duncan Idaho.
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I have liked Momoa since SGA but i am skeptical he can fill the Mentat role Duncan becomes later. Duncan becomes more integral later in the series. Momoa's acting will be stretched if the directors are true to the Duncan caracter. This is especially true if they continue on with the series. I hope Momoa can do the Mentat side.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:08:53 PM EST
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Looks like they redesigned it though, I don’t see the three jaws that form the head from the old novel cover art - they reduced it to one sucker.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:09:18 PM EST
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I nearly added that the only redeeming quality of what would have otherwise been incoherent drug-induced haze of excrement and excess was Salvador Dali as the Emperor.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:09:45 PM EST
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I've never read the books, and never saw the movie with Sting and Kyle Maclachlan.  About all I remember from snippets I've seen of that one is the fat guy floating around and Sting saying "I will KILL him!"
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Technically that is the best part of the film.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:10:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:12:42 PM EST
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This looks pretty good.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:13:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:13:57 PM EST
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I love the polish of what was shown. I love the settings and how they did the ships. Love the armor treatments. The house stuff looks great. I just don't care for the guy playing Paul. Probably be one of those watch it on DVD. And yeah I admit I'm a Dune snob. I've read all the books at least 3 times.....DUNE way more than that.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:13:58 PM EST
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Intriguing...
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:15:54 PM EST
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I have liked Momoa since SGA but i am skeptical he can fill the Mentat role Duncan becomes later. Duncan becomes more integral later in the series. Momoa's acting will be stretched if the directors are true to the Duncan caracter. This is especially true if they continue on with the series. I hope Momoa can do the Mentat side.
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Valid concern, though I think Momoa has been improving as an actor so he may be able to pull it off and the make the transition from warrior to thinker all the better. I'll remain cautiously optimistic on this front.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:19:18 PM EST
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Both are theologically driven military campaigns against unbelievers.
One was defensive in nature, the other a conquest.


Right...taking Jerusalem back from Islam after 450 years was totally defensive.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:19:33 PM EST
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Looks good idk if the pink Floyd fits well
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It's just trailer music.  A lot of themes used in trailers never carry over to the actual films or soundtracks.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:22:00 PM EST
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I love the polish of what was shown. I love the settings and how they did the ships. Love the armor treatments. The house stuff looks great. I just don't care for the guy playing Paul. Probably be one of those watch it on DVD. And yeah I admit I'm a Dune snob. I've read all the books at least 3 times.....DUNE way more than that.
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Go watch Timothée Chalamet in "The King" and I think you will change your mind. He is perfect as Paul Atreides.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:22:34 PM EST
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I have liked Momoa since SGA but i am skeptical he can fill the Mentat role Duncan becomes later. Duncan becomes more integral later in the series. Momoa's acting will be stretched if the directors are true to the Duncan caracter. This is especially true if they continue on with the series. I hope Momoa can do the Mentat side.
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That assumes that there will be movies beyond the two for Dune.  Duncan Idaho as a Mentat only becomes an issue for Momoa if they do the books after. And then if he can't, they can just replace him and say it was a change resulting from how he was....found. (not going to spoil)
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:23:55 PM EST
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The Orange Bible

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The "Jihad", in Dune-verse, is a Fremen (them being descended from the "zensunni") concept.  Paul, if he's talking prior to having lived with them, would likely use the term "Crusade" (the Known Universe at large is mostly some kind of weird Christian-derived melange).


Of course, Herbert confuses things because everyone calls the revolt against the Machines the Butlerian Jihad.


Eh.

The Orange Bible

ETA: I haven’t read the books, only watched the original film and then read up on the stories. I feared the reading the books would ruin the movie for me.


The 80s movie was an absolute pile of dogshit compared to the book. I'm glad we have amazing  CGI available  today; it's the only way to do the book justice other than inside someone's imagination.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:24:10 PM EST
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Looks pretty cool. Great cast, right director, I'm hopeful.

And, most importantly, not demanding it meet every facet and detail of the book...as no film based on fiction like this can, or should.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:24:48 PM EST
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Fuck, that looks awesome.

That cool version of Pink Floyd in the background was the cherry on top.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:24:50 PM EST
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I love the polish of what was shown. I love the settings and how they did the ships. Love the armor treatments. The house stuff looks great. I just don't care for the guy playing Paul. Probably be one of those watch it on DVD. And yeah I admit I'm a Dune snob. I've read all the books at least 3 times.....DUNE way more than that.
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Yeah Paul is seeming a bit immature compared to how he is in the book, but the dialog chosen in the trailer is kinda biased towards that, hopefully it’s just bad cherry picking for the trailer.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:25:06 PM EST
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The armor does look good.  The 1984 Sardaukar were an embarrassment.  Hard to beat the 1984 stillsuits though.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:29:31 PM EST
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Hope there is a way to see this on pay per view.

So far I'm 8 years in on a life time ban on going to theaters.

Read the book, saw the first movie, I want to be in.
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Have you seen the Sci-Fi channels mini series? It was pretty good and more "to the book" than the Lynch Acid Trip movie was.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:31:43 PM EST
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Geeking out over this....definitely going to see it in the theater.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:32:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:32:10 PM EST
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The 80s movie was an absolute pile of dogshit compared to the book. I'm glad we have amazing  CGI available  today; it's the only way to do the book justice other than inside someone's imagination.
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The "Jihad", in Dune-verse, is a Fremen (them being descended from the "zensunni") concept.  Paul, if he's talking prior to having lived with them, would likely use the term "Crusade" (the Known Universe at large is mostly some kind of weird Christian-derived melange).


Of course, Herbert confuses things because everyone calls the revolt against the Machines the Butlerian Jihad.


Eh.

The Orange Bible

ETA: I haven’t read the books, only watched the original film and then read up on the stories. I feared the reading the books would ruin the movie for me.


The 80s movie was an absolute pile of dogshit compared to the book. I'm glad we have amazing  CGI available  today; it's the only way to do the book justice other than inside someone's imagination.


I thought the original movie was terrific and still do.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:33:24 PM EST
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FOR HOUSE ATREIDES! Shit, I need to replay the RTS games again!

The Fremen - Dune 2000 [music]


Ride the Worm - Emperor: Battle for Dune [music]
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:33:32 PM EST
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I'm quite excited about this.

I read the series many times when I was a kid, and watched the movies a bunch of times.

The Bene Gesserit mother in the trailer looks like an accurate homage to the original Reverend Mother.  

The original casting of Kyle MacLachlan never made sense to me, he seemed too old to me.  This new kid looks exactly as my mind imagines.

Super excited about this one.

-Cav
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:35:47 PM EST
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But will there be a pug in this Dune movie?









I can't find a screenshot, but I remember a shot of just the pug running off as the Saudukar attack.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:36:59 PM EST
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It looks intriguing but that soundtrack keeps my dick from getting hard over it.

And yes, I can't help but compare it to the first movie.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:38:04 PM EST
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Did you even watch the trailer?

Love Dune as a kid, it’s been a really long time since I’ve seen it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:40:18 PM EST
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Excited about this. Need to re-read, it's been 15-20 years probably.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:41:37 PM EST
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Dune really calls for a longer treatment than a 2 hour movie, but we'll see.    I honestly think they could split it into a 3 part trilogy:
Part 1 - intro to Dune, and everything that happens up to the Harkonnen attack
Part 2 - escape, hiding, etc.
Part 3 - Paul turns into a man and comes back to defeat the Emperor


There's absolutely no reason to deal with any of the later books. To be honest, they're just not that good.  (And I say that as somebody who re-reads them every 5-10 years, with the mistaken hope that I'll be pleasantly surprised).

God Emperor isn't too bad, but the rest are tedious reads, with a few tidbits here and there.   By the time Chapterhouse comes along, it's just hundreds of pages of scheming nuns.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:43:44 PM EST
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There ain’t no moisture on Arrakis!
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:46:33 PM EST
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If you don’t they movie won’t make sense. It is a very complicated story.

The visuals look very good.  It is a brutal story with a lot of pain.
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Definitely read at least the first book, Dune, before the movie comes out.

If you don’t they movie won’t make sense. It is a very complicated story.

The visuals look very good.  It is a brutal story with a lot of pain.


thats actually a pretty good question. to read the books or not. i read the first book when it was first published in the 60s. very good book. but a lot of the story takes place in the minds of the characters and that makes scripting it as a visual (movie) experience very difficult. and no one has been able to do it so far. will this new movie 'work'? who knows. obviously the CGI will be very good and its necessary for this movie, but the story itself is difficult to translate to the screen.

now, as to read the book(s)? you'd almost be better off reading the first book after you see the movie to reduce the potential for disappointment. the first book is one of the all time best scifi stories ever done and sets and extremely high expectation of what the movie should be. i didnt read the second book until many years later and it absolutely sucked as far as im concerned so i did not read any of the subsequent books. and i have read a shit-ton of scfi (and other) books over the years, all of the award winners and just about anything else going back into the early 60s.

the books i wanna see put to film (or a hbo series as some would do better at that format) are the red-rising series and from a long time ago, lord of light (by zelazny). frankly i dont understand why the red rising series hasnt made to film yet (though there was some early attempts) as its a tier one set of books, equal to anything extant today including RR Martins stuff.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:46:50 PM EST
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The butchered up Dune film from the 80s is still one of my favorites and that director hit it out of the park with his Bladerunner sequel. (BTW, the original Bladerunner is in my top five favorites of all time, so that says something to his skill)

Actually excited to see this version.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:49:07 PM EST
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Looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:50:40 PM EST
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The "Jihad", in Dune-verse, is a Fremen (them being descended from the "zensunni") concept.  Paul, if he's talking prior to having lived with them, would likely use the term "Crusade" (the Known Universe at large is mostly some kind of weird Christian-derived melange).


Of course, Herbert confuses things because everyone calls the revolt against the Machines the Butlerian Jihad.


Eh.

The Orange Bible

ETA: I haven’t read the books, only watched the original film and then read up on the stories. I feared the reading the books would ruin the movie for me.


Do as i do...read the books after watching Hollywood's abridged abortions. You'll be a happier person in the long run.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:51:28 PM EST
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With Hans Zimmer doing the score.  Fuck yes.
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I've never read the books, and never saw the movie with Sting and Kyle Maclachlan.  About all I remember from snippets I've seen of that one is the fat guy floating around and Sting saying "I will KILL him!"
Technically that is the best part of the film.



I will bend like a reed in the wind...
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:53:14 PM EST
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That actor was in "the king" the netflix movie. He was excellent.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:53:28 PM EST
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Hope there is a way to see this on pay per view.

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They are closing theaters
There was one close to me, but I just heard it’s going to be either demolished or renovated into a home building store like busy beaver or 84 lumber.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:53:50 PM EST
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I had this thought and wanted to share it. If there was ever a modern movie where they could cast non-white actors through out the film this would be the one. The known universe is more than the 3 planets that come to the forefront in the book. We see they have cast an Asian for the Dr so I kinda hope they expand on that when we get to the court with all the representatives from different worlds. The Reverend Mothers would be another excellent spot for some non-forced diversity. The Guild is yet another excellent place. Show Hollyweird how to have diversity in a cast that no one will bat an eye at.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 12:55:13 PM EST
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I'd brave a COVID infested theater to see this. Loved the first book.
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