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Was semi cloudy here, saw 2 good views 3 to 5 seconds each, looked liked a shooting star.
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No splat.
But I do want to see what the inside of the capsule looks like. |
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The drogues are cool, drifting down on their own. Does the heat shield get saved or have its own parachute/ drogue, or does it just plummet away and slam into the ground? If it does just crash, does the separation at split it or is it just a giant frisbee?
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Quoted: The drogues are cool, drifting down on their own. Does the heat shield get saved or have its own parachute/ drogue, or does it just plummet away and slam into the ground? If it does just crash, does the separation at split it or is it just a giant frisbee? View Quote I saw what may have been multiple fragments. |
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Quoted: And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts. View Quote Not really, the standard for bringing people back should rightly be higher and that's coming from someone who posted a few days ago that I was very confident that it would be successful. There were simply too many unknowns to accurately access what the true risks were. Basically, I would have bet money that the outcome would have been successful, like it was tonight, but not actually have been willing to ride in it. |
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... And Boeing has already killed 346 people with the 737 Max debacle, so there's that on their safety record...
Yea, I would not have rode back on it either. |
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Just up the hill to the east of the landing site.
Came right at us, lol. Appeared to be rising. |
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Quoted: And yet Boeing still can't be trusted.,... View Quote As has been discussed ad nauseam. They are still run by a bunch of penny pinching idiots who will burn down $10,000 to save a dime. As long as it's someone else's ten grand. A company in complete lockstep with the stylish, leftist belief that certain racial groups... People who have the wrong sexual preferences. Or who have the wrong political ideas are obsolete and should be expunged. |
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View Quote Cool pic. Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away. |
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View Quote Excellent. About how high above the horizon was that? Just goes to show that you should try to see it. |
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At least no astronaut deaths on re-entry. Not sure that is any kind of win, though…. Especially since an orbital uber has to bring them back.
The commentary throughout was a little over the top - trying to talk it up. |
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Boeing Starliner returns to earth without astronauts | BBC News |
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This should give Boeing's stock a bump. Now they get to decide whether to continue on in the space business.
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Is NASA signing off on this flight as successful? Are they good to go with routine flights now or do they need to demonstrate a full proper flight?
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Quoted: Is NASA signing off on this flight as successful? Are they good to go with routine flights now or do they need to demonstrate a full proper flight? View Quote Unless the head NASA guy has pre-ordained that it will be certified to carry operational crews, it is unknown. It was not a successful mission even with an apparent good re-entry and landing. |
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NASA should've never permitted the lift-off of Starline without having everything in copacetic order. The people at NASA had forgotten what happened in the Challenger debacle, the NASA suits persuaded, aka "strong armed," Thiokol engineers to ok a launch of the Space Shuttle because they want to keep on schedule.
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Quoted: NASA should've never permitted the lift-off of Starline without having everything in copacetic order. The people at NASA had forgotten what happened in the Challenger debacle, the NASA suits persuaded, aka "strong armed," Thiokol engineers to ok a launch of the Space Shuttle because they want to keep on schedule. View Quote The helium leaks were so small they were able to greatly extend the mission duration. They were not related to the thruster failures. |
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Quoted: Cool pic. Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away. View Quote lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here. They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while. Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again. I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does. |
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What Actually Happened To The Boeing Starliner |
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Quoted: lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here. They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while. Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again. I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Cool pic. Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away. lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here. They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while. Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again. I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does. The hype was created by the media. Mark expressed confidence in the vehicle many times. Steve provided plenty of technical details throughout this. The "journalists" either don't have the vocabulary to understand this or weren't interested in that aspect so the questions asked were nothing but drama bullshit followed up by daily articles that provided no new information and opinionated hype. The crew expressed confidence in the vehicle directly to these "journalists" in their own Q&A session as well. Nothing but drama questions and bullshit articles. I posted back in June that the media was whipping you guys up into a tissy over nothing. What makes the media so credible with this but anywhere else they are viewed as full of shit? JSC and DC make the final decision as to which way this goes. The chief astronaut made this clear. Those decision makers had all of the information and details and couldn't make an informed decision, they flew in experts to help them understand and still had "questions that couldn't be answered". JSC huh, that's where they work on space ships so they should know right? Nope. How bout DC? lol. Why is this panel flying in experts? Why is the panel not made up of experts? There was one comment that was made in all this and I hate to give that dick Berger credit for it but I will. He said back in shuttle days they had daily briefings of flights and that went away with the shuttle. I'd like for them to go back to that pattern with providing information and IFAs daily for all of the service providers. That information used to be available and searchable to the "outside" it isn't even available inside to people not involved anymore. |
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New issues popped up. Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while
https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth "It’s unclear if or when the company will have another opportunity to bring astronauts to space," Bank of America aerospace and defense analyst Ron Epstein told the New York Times. "We would not be surprised if Boeing were to divest the manned spaceflight business." View Quote |
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Quoted: New issues popped up. Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: New issues popped up. Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth "It’s unclear if or when the company will have another opportunity to bring astronauts to space," Bank of America aerospace and defense analyst Ron Epstein told the New York Times. "We would not be surprised if Boeing were to divest the manned spaceflight business." Ok, definitely the right move keeping the Starliner crew onboard Station. Starliner is just as unreliable as the initial test flights. Insanity. |
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Do we know if all 3 parachutes worked this time or is it still on "2 is fine"?
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Quoted: Just a control jet failure (different than the thruster failures going up to the ISS) and the navigation system "glitching" during reentry. Minor stuff. That will show Bill! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts. Just a control jet failure (different than the thruster failures going up to the ISS) and the navigation system "glitching" during reentry. Minor stuff. That will show Bill! Ha, the people this place loves to hate are so righteous now because they decided against Boeing, who they hate more. Do you think that 3 string GPS is all they got for NAV? |
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