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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:02:56 PM EST
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She landed!
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:02:58 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:03:08 PM EST
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Good landing.  The lower heat shield jettison was interesting.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:03:40 PM EST
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Was semi cloudy here, saw 2 good views 3 to 5 seconds each, looked liked a shooting star.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:03:51 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:03:53 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:04:03 PM EST
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Good news for Boeing.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:05:09 PM EST
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No splat.

But I do want to see what the inside of the capsule looks like.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:05:34 PM EST
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Well, as a mission no.  Boeing will be sort of happy but their crew are still orbiting Earth for a few months due to unknowns....
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:05:38 PM EST
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The drogues are cool, drifting down on their own.   Does the heat shield get saved or have its own parachute/ drogue, or does it just plummet away and slam into the ground? If it does just crash, does the separation at split it or is it just a giant frisbee?
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:07:08 PM EST
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And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:12:31 PM EST
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They still had major issues.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:13:52 PM EST
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nevermind, old photo
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:14:02 PM EST
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The drogues are cool, drifting down on their own.   Does the heat shield get saved or have its own parachute/ drogue, or does it just plummet away and slam into the ground? If it does just crash, does the separation at split it or is it just a giant frisbee?
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I saw what may have been multiple fragments.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:21:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:22:11 PM EST
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Not really, the standard for bringing people back should rightly be higher and that's coming from someone who posted a few days ago that I was very confident that it would be successful.  
There were simply too many unknowns to accurately access what the true risks were.
Basically, I would have bet money that the outcome would have been successful, like it was tonight, but not actually have been willing to ride in it.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:26:28 PM EST
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... And Boeing has already killed 346 people with the 737 Max debacle, so there's that on their safety record...  

Yea, I would not have rode back on it either.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:29:01 PM EST
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Passing south of Tucson.

Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:32:46 PM EST
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Just up the hill to the east of the landing site.
Came right at us, lol.
Appeared to be rising.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:35:00 PM EST
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And yet Boeing still can't be trusted.,...
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:40:49 PM EST
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As has been discussed ad nauseam. They are still run by a bunch of penny pinching idiots who will burn down $10,000 to save a dime. As long as it's someone else's ten grand.

A company in complete lockstep with the stylish, leftist belief that certain racial groups... People who have the wrong sexual preferences. Or who have the wrong political ideas are obsolete and should be expunged.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:52:44 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 11:54:05 PM EST
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??Billions over budget, years overdue and couldn't be trusted to bring home astronauts. Boeing has nothing to be proud of.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 5:44:41 AM EST
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Cool pic.
Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 6:34:29 AM EST
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Passing south of Tucson.

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Excellent.  About how high above the horizon was that?   Just goes to show that you should try to see it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 7:50:59 AM EST
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At least no astronaut deaths on re-entry.  Not sure that is any kind of win, though…. Especially since an orbital uber has to bring them back.

The commentary throughout was a little over the top - trying to talk it up.

Link Posted: 9/7/2024 8:53:26 AM EST
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Those astronauts are soaking up a shit ton of TDY.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 9:23:56 AM EST
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Boeing Starliner returns to earth without astronauts | BBC News
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 9:34:37 AM EST
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Excellent.  About how high above the horizon was that?   Just goes to show that you should try to see it.
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15 degrees max.  If there wasn't so much dust in the air you'd be able to make out the Santa Rita Mountains.  It was just above them.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 10:09:25 AM EST
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This should give Boeing's stock a bump.  Now they get to decide whether to continue on in the space business.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 10:10:37 AM EST
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They will continue.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 11:02:06 AM EST
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Is NASA signing off on this flight as successful? Are they good to go with routine flights now or do they need to demonstrate a full proper flight?
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 12:05:26 PM EST
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Unless the head NASA guy has pre-ordained that it will be certified to carry operational crews, it is unknown.  It was not a successful mission even with an apparent good re-entry and landing.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 12:12:08 PM EST
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CGI is fun....
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 12:17:58 PM EST
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White Sands NP is cool if you ever get out that way.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 12:26:44 PM EST
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NASA should've never permitted the lift-off of Starline without having everything in copacetic order. The people at NASA had forgotten what happened in the Challenger debacle, the NASA suits persuaded, aka "strong armed," Thiokol engineers to ok a launch of the Space Shuttle because they want to keep on schedule.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 1:25:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/7/2024 1:30:44 PM EST
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... And Boeing has already killed 346 people with the 737 Max debacle, so there's that on their safety record...  
Yea, I would not have rode back on it either.
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Except for the fact that the entire crew is stranded in space, this mission has been a huge success.  
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 5:02:11 PM EST
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NASA should've never permitted the lift-off of Starline without having everything in copacetic order. The people at NASA had forgotten what happened in the Challenger debacle, the NASA suits persuaded, aka "strong armed," Thiokol engineers to ok a launch of the Space Shuttle because they want to keep on schedule.
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The helium leaks were so small they were able to greatly extend the mission duration.  They were not related to the thruster failures.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 7:44:15 AM EST
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Cool pic.
Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away.
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lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here.  They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while.  

Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again.  I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 9:50:03 AM EST
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What Actually Happened To The Boeing Starliner
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 10:23:19 AM EST
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lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here.  They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while.  

Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again.  I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does.
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Cool pic.
Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away.

lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here.  They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while.  

Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again.  I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does.


The hype was created by the media.

Mark expressed confidence in the vehicle many times. Steve provided plenty of technical details throughout this. The "journalists" either don't have the vocabulary to understand this or weren't interested in that aspect so the questions asked were nothing but drama bullshit followed up by daily articles that provided no new information and opinionated hype.
The crew expressed confidence in the vehicle directly to these "journalists" in their own Q&A session as well. Nothing but drama questions and bullshit articles.
I posted back in June that the media was whipping you guys up into a tissy over nothing.

What makes the media so credible with this but anywhere else they are viewed as full of shit?

JSC and DC make the final decision as to which way this goes. The chief astronaut made this clear. Those decision makers had all of the information and details and couldn't make an informed decision, they flew in experts to help them understand and still had "questions that couldn't be answered". JSC huh, that's where they work on space ships so they should know right? Nope. How bout DC? lol. Why is this panel flying in experts? Why is the panel not made up of experts?

There was one comment that was made in all this and I hate to give that dick Berger credit for it but I will. He said back in shuttle days they had daily briefings of flights and that went away with the shuttle. I'd like for them to go back to that pattern with providing information and IFAs daily for all of the service providers. That information used to be available and searchable to the "outside" it isn't even available inside to people not involved anymore.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:08:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:13:04 AM EST
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New issues popped up.  Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while

https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth

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New issues popped up.  Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while

https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth

"It’s unclear if or when the company will have another opportunity to bring astronauts to space," Bank of America aerospace and defense analyst Ron Epstein told the New York Times. "We would not be surprised if Boeing were to divest the manned spaceflight business."



Ok, definitely the right move keeping the Starliner crew onboard Station.

Starliner is just as unreliable as the initial test flights. Insanity.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:19:39 AM EST
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Was so 60s.

Its basically the same concept and design from the Apollo program.

Its supposed to be reusable and safe money.  Jettisoning major parts even if considered a consumable is expensive.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:25:18 AM EST
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Just a control jet failure (different than the thruster failures going up to the ISS) and the navigation system "glitching" during reentry.

Minor stuff.

That will show Bill!
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:27:20 AM EST
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Do we know if all 3 parachutes worked this time or is it still on "2 is fine"?
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:36:44 AM EST
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Re-entry footage showed 3 good chutes.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:46:41 AM EST
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Just a control jet failure (different than the thruster failures going up to the ISS) and the navigation system "glitching" during reentry.

Minor stuff.

That will show Bill!
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And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts.

Just a control jet failure (different than the thruster failures going up to the ISS) and the navigation system "glitching" during reentry.

Minor stuff.

That will show Bill!


Ha, the people this place loves to hate are so righteous now because they decided against Boeing, who they hate more.
Do you think that 3 string GPS is all they got for NAV?
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