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Posted: 3/4/2021 11:38:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By careyvonhasselhoff: Anyone have a link to an extended run gas cap for one of the older Champion 2000/1600 watt inverters ? The cube looking models. I thought I found one on Amazon. And it even listed champion inverters as a brand they will fit. But someone in the reviews said No it will not fit their champion. Thanks. If it's on Amazon, order it. If it doesn't fit, return it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 11:48:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: Some details on the generator plug? Is that an LED on the cover, it looks like it's glowing green in the picture. Generator inlet box with L14-30P. Found it on Amazon - there are several sellers. When I finally ordered they were out and I got it off of Ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leisure-Cords-30-Amp-Generator-Power-Inlet-Box-NEMA-L14-30P-120-Volt-ETL-Listed/174617028338 |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 2:41:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Lol my max spike voltage for my fridge is 900W  That's with all doors open, compressor running, lights on, everything Normal running is around 120-160w I checked my vertical deep freezer last night and it’s 1100 watts. That was a surprise. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 4:41:21 PM EST
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It looks like Champion may be coming out with a new 5500/4000 watt dual fuel inverter generator. The manual and spare parts sheets are shown their website but it doesn't appear to be available yet. I will be keeping an eye on this one since my 4000/3500 is great but doesn't have quite enough umph for my well pump.
https://www.championpowerequipment.com/search/201003 |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 5:12:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: Skibane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By careyvonhasselhoff: Anyone have a link to an extended run gas cap for one of the older Champion 2000/1600 watt inverters ? The cube looking models. I thought I found one on Amazon. And it even listed champion inverters as a brand they will fit. But someone in the reviews said No it will not fit their champion. Thanks. https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHAMPION-2000W-INVERTER-GENERATOR-EXTENDED-RUN-FUEL-CAP-check-model-below/122243233860?hash=item1c7643b844:g:8vcAAOSw5cNYOjW2 The older "cube" model has a smaller-diameter gas cap than some of the more recent 2KW models. Here's an example of the larger-diameter cap used on recent models: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHAMPION-2000W-INVERTER-GENERATOR-EXT-RUN-FUEL-CAP-NEW-Model-100565-see-below/123529738464?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 EDIT: I can no longer recommend the item shown in the link above - Mine arrived with threads that would not fit on the gas tank without cross-threading. A piece of paper packed with the cap said that the threads on your gas tank may require some scraping to remove a "coating" on them to make the cap fit.  A $35 gas cap shouldn't require modifications to your gas tank before it will fit.
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Posted: 3/4/2021 5:57:27 PM EST
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Re: Harmonic distortion in non-inverter generators.
I'm sure most cheapo non-inverter generators put out decent amounts of THD - as a matter of fact, a few of y'all discussed hooking up oscilloscopes a few pages back. It is said that computers don't like a lot of THD, but being an electrical engineer with a smidgen of rectifier knowledge: How true is this? A/C to D/C converters in power supplies tend to be pretty good so I'm wondering if that really applies. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 6:03:43 PM EST
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Random gripe: Why do closed-frame inverters not include a fuel shutoff switch? I always run my tools with the switch off to drain the carb as much as possible. All but a few exceptions of traditional inverters don't let you do that. It's stupid.
Random gripe #2: Why are SGE's all over the place with oil recommendations? Champion, for example, recommends 10W-30 for 0-100 degrees and 5W-30 across the entire temperature range. Yet they prefer 10w_30 which doesn't make a lot of sense. Any SGE that recommends a 30 weight oil should be able to use 5W-30 which is nice and thin at startup; they are all 30 weight when hot. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 6:19:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Skibane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Re: Harmonic distortion in non-inverter generators. I'm sure most cheapo non-inverter generators put out decent amounts of THD - as a matter of fact, a few of y'all discussed hooking up oscilloscopes a few pages back. It is said that computers don't like a lot of THD, but being an electrical engineer with a smidgen of rectifier knowledge: How true is this? A/C to D/C converters in power supplies tend to be pretty good so I'm wondering if that really applies. I've put a few generators on a scope to look at the waveform - and THD doesn't concern me a whole lot. A lot of the UPS's that are routinely connected to "sensitive" computer equipment produce a "modified sine wave" with a lot more distortion than what a typical generator produces. It looks more more like a square wave than a sine wave - and yet it doesn't seem to bother most loads. Of more concern is wild voltage or frequency swings caused by engine problems - i.e., the engine stumbles and then overspeeds when it is running out of gas, or is started or shut down with a load connected, or has a sudden large change in electrical load. Most of that can be prevented by using common sense when running your generator. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 7:41:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Random gripe: Why do closed-frame inverters not include a fuel shutoff switch? I always run my tools with the switch off to drain the carb as much as possible. All but a few exceptions of traditional inverters don't let you do that. It's stupid. Random gripe #2: Why are SGE's all over the place with oil recommendations? Champion, for example, recommends 10W-30 for 0-100 degrees and 5W-30 across the entire temperature range. Yet they prefer 10w_30 which doesn't make a lot of sense. Any SGE that recommends a 30 weight oil should be able to use 5W-30 which is nice and thin at startup; they are all 30 weight when hot. Mine does have a fuel shutoff |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 9:23:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Random gripe: Why do closed-frame inverters not include a fuel shutoff switch? I always run my tools with the switch off to drain the carb as much as possible. All but a few exceptions of traditional inverters don't let you do that. It's stupid. Random gripe #2: Why are SGE's all over the place with oil recommendations? Champion, for example, recommends 10W-30 for 0-100 degrees and 5W-30 across the entire temperature range. Yet they prefer 10w_30 which doesn't make a lot of sense. Any SGE that recommends a 30 weight oil should be able to use 5W-30 which is nice and thin at startup; they are all 30 weight when hot. My little champion inverter has a fuel shut off. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 10:22:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blackx-runner: My little champion inverter has a fuel shut off. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blackx-runner: Originally Posted By Zhukov: Random gripe: Why do closed-frame inverters not include a fuel shutoff switch? I always run my tools with the switch off to drain the carb as much as possible. All but a few exceptions of traditional inverters don't let you do that. It's stupid. Random gripe #2: Why are SGE's all over the place with oil recommendations? Champion, for example, recommends 10W-30 for 0-100 degrees and 5W-30 across the entire temperature range. Yet they prefer 10w_30 which doesn't make a lot of sense. Any SGE that recommends a 30 weight oil should be able to use 5W-30 which is nice and thin at startup; they are all 30 weight when hot. My little champion inverter has a fuel shut off. Yep. Sorry for the grainy pic, but the run position is straight up, 1st click to right is fuel shut-off, 2nd click to right is engine kill. These little Champions are great!  |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 11:23:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: jestertoo]
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non-inverter, but any feedback on these?
https://ourgenerators.com/products/firman-t08071-10000-watt-tri-fuel-gas-lpg-ng |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 12:21:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Re: Harmonic distortion in non-inverter generators. I'm sure most cheapo non-inverter generators put out decent amounts of THD - as a matter of fact, a few of y'all discussed hooking up oscilloscopes a few pages back. It is said that computers don't like a lot of THD, but being an electrical engineer with a smidgen of rectifier knowledge: How true is this? A/C to D/C converters in power supplies tend to be pretty good so I'm wondering if that really applies. I don't think the "sensitive electronics" issue applies anymore, that was an 80s/90s phenomenon. As you point out, power supplies in computers and TVs, etc have their own transformers and rectifiers to convert the 120VAC coming in to the low voltage DC the appliance uses. About the only concern I would have would be for motors. And even then, I think the signal would have to be really bad. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 12:25:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Random gripe: Why do closed-frame inverters not include a fuel shutoff switch? I always run my tools with the switch off to drain the carb as much as possible. All but a few exceptions of traditional inverters don't let you do that. It's stupid. Random gripe #2: Why are SGE's all over the place with oil recommendations? Champion, for example, recommends 10W-30 for 0-100 degrees and 5W-30 across the entire temperature range. Yet they prefer 10w_30 which doesn't make a lot of sense. Any SGE that recommends a 30 weight oil should be able to use 5W-30 which is nice and thin at startup; they are all 30 weight when hot. #1, many enclosed inverter units do now include a fuel shutoff switch. The Honda 2000 unit for example now has a three position switch with separate ignition and fuel cutoff positions, where before it had a two position switch that paired both functions together. #2, I blame China |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 3:44:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP: I don't think the "sensitive electronics" issue applies anymore, that was an 80s/90s phenomenon. As you point out, power supplies in computers and TVs, etc have their own transformers and rectifiers to convert the 120VAC coming in to the low voltage DC the appliance uses. About the only concern I would have would be for motors. And even then, I think the signal would have to be really bad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP: Originally Posted By Zhukov: Re: Harmonic distortion in non-inverter generators. I'm sure most cheapo non-inverter generators put out decent amounts of THD - as a matter of fact, a few of y'all discussed hooking up oscilloscopes a few pages back. It is said that computers don't like a lot of THD, but being an electrical engineer with a smidgen of rectifier knowledge: How true is this? A/C to D/C converters in power supplies tend to be pretty good so I'm wondering if that really applies. I don't think the "sensitive electronics" issue applies anymore, that was an 80s/90s phenomenon. As you point out, power supplies in computers and TVs, etc have their own transformers and rectifiers to convert the 120VAC coming in to the low voltage DC the appliance uses. About the only concern I would have would be for motors. And even then, I think the signal would have to be really bad. The problems my coworkers had during Sandy with non inverter units was high voltage. Voltage regulation was shit on the smoke and noise units they had, one put a meter and was seeing around 180V volts on the 120V plug. But several complained of fried refrigerators and HVAC control boards being shot. The switching power supplies in most electronics including wall warts should be able to deal with THD and can cause harmonics themselves.... https://jmkengineering.com/3-causes-harmonics-power-system/ |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 1:01:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: The problems my coworkers had during Sandy with non inverter units was high voltage. Voltage regulation was shit on the smoke and noise units they had, one put a meter and was seeing around 180V volts on the 120V plug. But several complained of fried refrigerators and HVAC control boards being shot. The switching power supplies in most electronics including wall warts should be able to deal with THD and can cause harmonics themselves.... https://jmkengineering.com/3-causes-harmonics-power-system/ Damn! Must be some really shitty units. Even my Harbor Freight 7.5K smoke and fume unit is more accurate than that. Most consumer electronics now have power supplies that take 250-100V input so manufacturers don't need different power supplies for different countries. But I think refrigerators would still have a problem. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 2:16:53 PM EST
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Question for you guys
Besides cost, would a whole home generator be better then a stand alone inverter? |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 2:58:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Question for you guys Besides cost, would a whole home generator be better then a stand alone inverter? For backup power for your home? Yes. For literally anything else? No. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:04:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Question for you guys Besides cost, would a whole home generator be better then a stand alone inverter? Fuel supply and expected duration of outage are the major issues. Powering everything in the home as if it was on the grid is nice, but really a luxury. Do you REALLY need lights on in the bedrooms? Will battery operated lanterns get you by? Have to look at your critical loads first. Then the loads you want/almost need. Then the ones that would be nice to have. Then the ones you can do without for a little bit. Whole home generators only make sense if you have natural gas, a large propane tank that serves the house, or a large diesel tank. You need to think about heating in winter (electric heat is tremendously inefficient from a fuel consumption aspect). And do you need AC in the summer? Can you get by with a portable or a couple of portable units? The whole home unit I was looking at is 12Kw which wouldn't power my "whole home" since we are all electric. But the convenience of autostart would be nice. I'd have to install propane service to fuel it, which is a plan anyway. I won't be able to run the heat pump, oven or cooktop. Without those three, I can get by with a much smaller unit. And...I don't really even need 12kW except to run a couple 240V loads like the water heater and well pump. I can run those off a larger generator for the few hours I need them, and run most of the critical loads off of an inverter, or a pair in parallel. That latter option is how we've been running the last few years. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:24:18 PM EST
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^ Yep - As has been previously mentioned, the 80/20 Rule really applies to backup power: You can maintain 80 percent of your normal standard of living without spending much on a generator and fuel supply.
However, if you insist on also having that other 20 percent, it's gonna cost you. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 8:52:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: PA-Minuteman]
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Thanks for the replies guys
Was just a thought, saw a video on Demoranch and he had a Cummins whole house gen installed and it got me thinking I been working on seeing what size genny I need but its been hard to get measurements for different items. I think my plan is to go with a 2000-3500 watt invertor, then get something larger for the well pump Also need to get a transfer switch installed |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:02:40 PM EST
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Anyone have any personal experience converting one of the "dual fuel" gasoline/propane generators to operate on natural gas?
There doesn't seem to be much info on the internet about it. (I'm talking about converting generators that are factory-equipped to operate on gasoline and propane - Not aftermarket "tri-fuel" conversion kits that typically have a mixture adjustment screw). |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:08:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: I been working on seeing what size genny I need but its been hard to get measurements for different items. Invest 30 bucks in a Kill-A-Watt - It'll tell you exactly how much power every 120 volt appliance consumes. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:08:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: Anyone have any personal experience converting one of the "dual fuel" gasoline/propane generators to operate on natural gas? There doesn't seem to be much info on the internet about it. (I'm talking about converting generators that are factory-equipped to operate on gasoline and propane - Not aftermarket "tri-fuel" conversion kits that typically have a mixture adjustment screw). Would need a larger orifice for one because NG runs at lower pressures then propane after the meter and it has less BTU per cubic foot. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:11:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: Invest 30 bucks in a Kill-A-Watt - It'll tell you exactly how much power every 120 volt appliance consumes. I need to see what the pellet stove uses, as well as the water pump |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:18:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Would need a larger orifice for one because NG runs at lower pressures then propane after the meter and it has less BTU per cubic foot. Maybe - depends on how they control the fuel mixture. You don't need to change orifices with some tri-fuel conversion kits - You just twist the mixture screw a few turns. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:59:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: draver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Would need a larger orifice for one because NG runs at lower pressures then propane after the meter and it has less BTU per cubic foot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By Skibane: Anyone have any personal experience converting one of the "dual fuel" gasoline/propane generators to operate on natural gas? There doesn't seem to be much info on the internet about it. (I'm talking about converting generators that are factory-equipped to operate on gasoline and propane - Not aftermarket "tri-fuel" conversion kits that typically have a mixture adjustment screw). Would need a larger orifice for one because NG runs at lower pressures then propane after the meter and it has less BTU per cubic foot. I'll be experimenting with this in the near future and posting results here. I just replaced my 2KW gasoline inverter with a 2KW dual fuel unit. I am going to sell the old gasoline unit. I currently have a Predator 3500 with a Nash Fuel TriFuel kit and it runs great on natgas. It has worked flawlessly during two 20+ hour local outages. I got the 2KW gas unit as a supplement for running in parallel. That works well also, but I am spoiled by running the natgas unit. I dislike the smell, storage, and safety issues of gasoline. During the last outage I needed to refuel the gasoline unit a few times and decided either propane or natgas is what I want for both units. If anyone is interested, I bought the AiPower duel fuel 2KW inverter from Amazon for $449 inc. shipping. Runs well and will never see gasoline. I keep my 2KW unit in eco mode and run the 3.5KW with eco off. The parallel connection provides for 4.5KW running, 5.5KW peak ratings. This should allow for a 20 lb. propane tank for the 2KW unit to last quite a while I believe. |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 2:49:22 PM EST
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Harbor Freight has 10% off everything through Thursday. I can double that by getting the credit card. Not sure where HF stands in today’s market quality for the dollar.
Should I go with HF? Spend more and get the 3500w? |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 8:07:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JUDGED12carried6: Harbor Freight has 10% off everything through Thursday. I can double that by getting the credit card. Not sure where HF stands in today's market quality for the dollar. Should I go with HF? Spend more and get the 3500w? The Huntsville, AL HF had a few "open box" 3500s, that were in boxes, just not the standard retail boxes, for $650 this weekend. They looked like they were refurbs to me but I didn't ask as I didn't need one. Label on the box said they came with a 7 day warranty. I bought a 2000 a year or two ago that was a return/refurb for $175 during a parking lot sale about 1.5 years ago. Brought it home, checked the oil, ran a tank of gas through it with a 1500w space heater as a load on it. Changed the oil, put in a NGK plug, and ran another tank. No issues and have ran a couple of half tanks of gas (with the same heater as a load) through it since then, just to make sure it would be good to go if I needed it. No issues..... |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:15:06 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2021 10:43:00 AM EST
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Any GD reviews on the Firman?
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:33:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PAspeedmaster: Firman 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Costco $350. Includes the parallel cables! That's a decent deal. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:45:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: JUDGED12carried6]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: Includes the parallel cables! That's a decent deal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster: Firman 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Costco $350. Includes the parallel cables! That's a decent deal. Okay I FOd. I’m too cheap to buy 2 though. Edit: with the savings I was able to buy a new battery for my atv (stacked right next to the gens) so this was all meant to happen. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:53:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHAMPION-2000W-INVERTER-GENERATOR-EXTENDED-RUN-FUEL-CAP-check-model-below/122243233860?hash=item1c7643b844:g:8vcAAOSw5cNYOjW2 The older "cube" model has a smaller-diameter gas cap than some of the more recent 2KW models. Here's an example of the larger-diameter cap used on recent models: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHAMPION-2000W-INVERTER-GENERATOR-EXT-RUN-FUEL-CAP-NEW-Model-100565-see-below/123529738464?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 EDIT: I can no longer recommend the item shown in the link above - Mine arrived with threads that would not fit on the gas tank without cross-threading. A piece of paper packed with the cap said that the threads on your gas tank may require some scraping to remove a "coating" on them to make the cap fit. A $35 gas cap shouldn't require modifications to your gas tank before it will fit. Okay. Thanks for the reply. I was guessing that I might have a problem finding one since it's their older model 2k inverter. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 2:14:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By careyvonhasselhoff: Okay. Thanks for the reply. I was guessing that I might have a problem finding one since it's their older model 2k inverter. Once again - The quality of their cap for the newer version is crappy - can't recommend it. Haven't tried their cap for the older cube model. Champion sells replacement gas caps for a reasonable price in their online parts store - and shipping is only around 5 bucks. If you want to modify an original cap for extended-run use, that might be a good way to go. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 2:46:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JUDGED12carried6: Harbor Freight has 10% off everything through Thursday. I can double that by getting the credit card. Not sure where HF stands in today's market quality for the dollar. Should I go with HF? Spend more and get the 3500w? It seems like Champion open frame are a lot cheaper with the same Wattage. The Predator gets good reviews too though. |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 9:38:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: The first time I saw one of those little Honda generators, I honestly thought the sound was a breeze blowing leaves. It was that quiet. Just exactly how quiet is your Predator? How far away can you hear it at all? It's sitting on the patio 15' away, i'm watching tv at normal volume and can only faintly hear it through the glass french doors. |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 11:03:37 AM EST
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What about WEN generators? What are people's experiences with them? They get decent reviews on the internet. I'm just concerned about their 25 hour oil change requirement.
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Posted: 3/12/2021 11:50:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: What about WEN generators? What are people's experiences with them? They get decent reviews on the internet. I'm just concerned about their 25 hour oil change requirement. You mean you haven't read this entire thread? Several reports of Wen earlier in the thread. Essentially there are two or three models of generators that are rebranded under many labels. Like Pulsar, Quip-All, etc. WEN is often one of those. Most of the mid/low price inverter generators seem to get fairly good reviews. Here's the link back in the thread showing a Wen and Predator nearly identical. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Harbor-Freight-Inverter-Generators-NOW-OFFICIAL-BUDGET-GENERATOR-THREAD/5-2032324/?page=9#i68195494  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 5:49:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude: Looking for a generator for the fridge and small chest freezer. 547 watts on the fridge and 138 on the chest freezer. Not sure how I would calculate start up wattage, but I'm leaning toward the Champion 2500 watt dual fuel generator. Good for my intended purpose or should I look for something else? Did you end up getting it? If so, how do you like it? I've been going back on forth on this version, and the Costo 2800W/3100W version for a weak. I've decided on this version, which is good, because the Costo version seems to no longer be available. We don't really lose power where I'm at, but I'd like to have something around "just in case". Propane is a must....don't want to deal with gasoline if I don't have to. |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 8:33:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLOL, that is good.
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Posted: 3/12/2021 10:15:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark: Did you end up getting it? If so, how do you like it? I've been going back on forth on this version, and the Costo 2800W/3100W version for a weak. I've decided on this version, which is good, because the Costo version seems to no longer be available. We don't really lose power where I'm at, but I'd like to have something around "just in case". Propane is a must....don't want to deal with gasoline if I don't have to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark: Originally Posted By HK94dude: Looking for a generator for the fridge and small chest freezer. 547 watts on the fridge and 138 on the chest freezer. Not sure how I would calculate start up wattage, but I'm leaning toward the Champion 2500 watt dual fuel generator. Good for my intended purpose or should I look for something else? Did you end up getting it? If so, how do you like it? I've been going back on forth on this version, and the Costo 2800W/3100W version for a weak. I've decided on this version, which is good, because the Costo version seems to no longer be available. We don't really lose power where I'm at, but I'd like to have something around "just in case". Propane is a must....don't want to deal with gasoline if I don't have to. not yet, I decided I needed another Trijicon first. Probably in a couple weeks though |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 10:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: What about WEN generators? What are people's experiences with them? They get decent reviews on the internet. I'm just concerned about their 25 hour oil change requirement. |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 11:16:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zhukov]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By orion251: The HF Predator, Wen, Pulsar, etc are basically copies of the Honda EU series. Why would you run a 2KW gen for more than 2 days? Not flaming, just asking. I live in tornado ally and have never been concerned with oil change intervals. I was looking at the 4K model. [ETA] And you don't plan on running a generator at all, but sometimes shit happens - even outages of more than a day. |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 11:54:01 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: [ETA] And you don't plan on running a generator at all, but sometimes shit happens - even outages of more than a day. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:51:33 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By orion251: The HF Predator, Wen, Pulsar, etc are basically copies of the Honda EU series. Why would you run a 2KW gen for more than 2 days? Not flaming, just asking. I live in tornado ally and have never been concerned with oil change intervals. They're closer to clones/copies of Yamaha EF2000 series. https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/generator/models/ef2000isv2 The 25 hour interval is for break-in. Normal oil change @ 100 hour intervals. Oil changes are easy. Set gen on couple of 4x4's, bricks, etc, with bin/pan between em. Unscrew oil cap and tilt gen to drain oil. For filling, one of the catsup/mustard squeeze bottles from Dollar Tree holds the right amount of oil and does the job with no mess. https://www.dollartree.com/cooking-concepts-bbq-condiment-bottles-2ct-packs/196435 |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:59:19 AM EST
[#47]
Can you pull a 110v leg off two different generators and run a 220v well pump?
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Posted: 3/13/2021 9:07:01 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forsyth793: Can you pull a 110v leg off two different generators and run a 220v well pump? Something would have to keep the sine wave 180 degrees out of phase at all times so that you would have 240v, not 200 or 30 or 0v. You would need basically a parallel kit designed to keep them out of phase, not in phase like they all do. I don’t know if such a thing even exists. But it would be sweet.  rollable d4 |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 9:10:19 AM EST
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I got one of these a few weeks back on sale for $299 and its working great. Its got a goofy name but seems like all these chinese generators are about the same.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hike-Crew-HCIG2250-Portable-Inverter-Generator-2250-Watt-Super-Quiet-Outdoor-Gas-Powered-Power-Station/504685972 I have about 20 hrs on it so far using power tools etc and it does pretty good. It will even start and run my 15000 BTU AC unit on my camper, pretty shocked at that. I like that it has a digital fuel and load meter right on the front that is visible from a distance, not seen many that have this. edit: stoopid hot link wont work, no idea why never had a problem before. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 9:59:13 AM EST
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Probably the best explanation I have ever seen.......
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Something would have to keep the sine wave 180 degrees out of phase at all times so that you would have 240v, not 200 or 30 or 0v. You would need basically a parallel kit designed to keep them out of phase, not in phase like they all do. I don’t know if such a thing even exists. But it would be sweet. https://i.ibb.co/1r3jvkS/2-A379478-2-F19-466-C-9-D22-071-BBDAA6631.jpg rollable d4 |
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