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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:16:06 AM EDT
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Idiot
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:19:12 AM EDT
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LOL....Fast forward to when the grinding starts then read the thread......It's like a a million "purists" cried out in agony with the noise in the background.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:24:14 AM EDT
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There are so many videos regarding Japanese sword polishing, and some are worth seeing and some are not.
I think this is a good one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x5WzIu5iXU |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:29:44 AM EDT
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Selectively ignored, otherwise how can their be righteous indignation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years?
Also note that I said “IF” it was an old quality blade, then he ruined it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:35:49 AM EDT
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I use one of those old Japanese swords to trim bushes in the garden. It works great
 better than the new stuff
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:47:53 AM EDT
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If watching Antiques Roadshow on PBS taught me anything, it is not to try to restore old stuff you think may be valuable. Why is everyone assuming it had any collectors’ value? He restored a rusty sword. How do you folks treat your rusty tools? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:53:44 AM EDT
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:58:43 AM EDT
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Lol at sword snobs, first they berate you for not signing up for their hand polished hob nobbery then immediately tell you your sword isn't worth what it is going to cost for the prescribed polishing.
If you generate enough heat grinding on that fucker to effect the heat treat it wasn't worth a fuck to begin with. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:02:50 AM EDT
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Zero fucks given.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:05:38 AM EDT
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:17:18 AM EDT
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Um, excuse me - I am NOT a sword snob. I am a sword nerd and/or dork. It’s an important distinction. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:20:56 AM EDT
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The vinegar part was bad, but I almost threw up when he brought out the power tools.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:24:55 AM EDT
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Um, excuse me - I am NOT a sword snob. I am a sword nerd and/or dork. It’s an important distinction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:26:25 AM EDT
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So a guy takes a $50 garbage sword and turns it into a $40 nice look sword. And people freak out.
Who cares. To each their own. Just think, in 500 years, it may be worth something and no one will ever know it was "restored". |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:30:55 AM EDT
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Apparently he doesn't own a wire wheel on a grinder. Hmmph! |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:34:49 AM EDT
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LOL @ sword snobs, nerds, and/or dorks however they identify. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent. 
But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style.
To each their own, I guess. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:37:00 AM EDT
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There are so many videos regarding Japanese sword polishing, and some are worth seeing and some are not. I think this is a good one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x5WzIu5iXU |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:38:03 AM EDT
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His blade to do with as he pleases, right. That's what GD says when someone chops up a Win 97, Ithica or A5 Browning to replicate a trench gun.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:52:49 AM EDT
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I guess there’s lots of different flavors of sword snobs/nerds/dorks etc. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent.
But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style.
To each their own, I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent.
But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style.
To each their own, I guess. A $10k sword that is 500 years old makes more sense to me than a $3500 Glick built this year. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 11:56:25 AM EDT
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:24:44 PM EDT
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So... He gave it way or is it on loan? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. NBTHK is the primary organization that authenticates Japanese swords, and issues formal paperwork. They hold “shinsa” events multiple times a year, in which you can submit blades, and experts will evaluate them. If a sword is deemed authentic, and of sufficient quality and importance, they will issue paperwork - at four different levels of importance. So it is very normal to submit a blade to a NBTHK shinsa, if you believe it is a good quality or important blade. However, when you submit a sword, you accept the condition that the NBTHK is allowed to “borrow” your sword and put it in their museum if it turns out to be a particularly important sword. I am not sure what the time limit it, but I think they are allowed to hold onto swords for at least a couple of years. So that could be what happened. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:25:17 PM EDT
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I've had Paul Chen/Hanwei swords rust on me in one afternoon, so it's no surprise that one would be covered in rust after being buried in the dirt for 10 years.
I suspect that this was probably a Paul Chen or from one of the other Chinese forges. If it was old or worth anything to begin with, I find it unlikely that they would have buried it in a time capsule. No one could possibly be that stupid. This is mine, not particularly old, but made in the traditional way: 
Appears to be the same smith: https://www.touken-sato.com/event/katana/2015/01/K-sou_tsutomu-01.html |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:26:30 PM EDT
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His blade to do with as he pleases, right. That's what GD says when someone chops up a Win 97, Ithica or A5 Browning to replicate a trench gun.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:27:12 PM EDT
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Why is he an idiot before storing, it was garbage. After restoring it was good enough to hang on a wall.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:32:26 PM EDT
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Not on my wall!
Maybe the wall at the local metal recycler's. But that was TERRIBLE. I have a lot of respect for Japanese sword polishers. The amount of patience it takes to keep rubbing a piece of steel over a rock for weeks on end is an effort I would not be able to sustain. I'm just too ADD-ish. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:32:53 PM EDT
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I doubt they buried a valuable blade in a 10yr time capsule to rust |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:58:34 PM EDT
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Wow, so he cleaned up a 10 year old sword and some of you guys are getting your panties in a wad...lol.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:17:09 PM EDT
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I am not a sword person whatsoever.
Having said that, after watching that video it appears "Bubba's" have infected Asia. I sure hope that sword was not a quality sword to begin with. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:39:28 PM EDT
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LOL....I'm still on the look-out for a "meh" 20s era Rem. Model 11 to make into a Whippet.....Friction tape and all. I have a roll of tape just waiting.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc387/Glockmonger_/gunsmithing/glockmonger_bonnieparker_clydebarrow_11a5.jpg~original
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:44:17 PM EDT
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I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I'll pit my bat'leth against one of your puny Jap blades any day. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:50:51 PM EDT
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years? i mean, the 'sword' kanji in the habaki is a pretty good indicator that it's crap, but nonetheless, he's claiming that he 'restored' it. that's a joke. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:57:59 PM EDT
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right?
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:00:29 PM EDT
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It looks pretty nice after his work. Yes, I know the original patina is lost... That sword was junk. Unless it had been made my some rare/amazing smith. Any run of the mill smith and it was worthless to start with. A good sword polisher could still restore that sword amusing it's value would make it worth a $3,000 sword polishing. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:02:21 PM EDT
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The one closeup they showed of the blade afterwards looked like hammered shit. I doubt it was worth much to begin with but he did not do a very good job at all. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:02:39 PM EDT
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It's a 10 year old sword he buried in the back yard. You guys are acting like he found a buried ancient Samurai sword found next to the dead remains of a great warrior and took a grinder to it. Geez. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:06:24 PM EDT
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I polished a new blade that I ordered and it came to me rough ground. I had better results than him just using the sandpaper method.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:11:12 PM EDT
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I doubt they buried a valuable blade in a 10yr time capsule to rust |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:33:27 PM EDT
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Why bury it to begin with? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:47:22 PM EDT
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Them's fighting swords. I'll pit my bat'leth against one of your puny Jap blades any day.
Also I hope you realize challenging bros to sword fights on the internet is kinda gay. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:59:08 PM EDT
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Also I hope you realize challenging bros to sword fights on the internet is kinda gay. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:06:23 PM EDT
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LoL at some of you that think he dug up 500 year old Excalibur and ruined it.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:21:05 PM EDT
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Them's fighting words. I'll pit my bat'leth against one of your puny Jap blades any day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I'll pit my bat'leth against one of your puny Jap blades any day. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:22:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:29:22 PM EDT
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LoL at some of you that think he dug up 500 year old Excalibur and ruined it.  Attached File...is not 'gunsmithing". |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:55:05 PM EDT
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This thread made me look into my email and see that I have been on David Hofhine's waiting list for 3 years...a year over his estimated time...
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Posted: 10/24/2017 12:19:40 AM EDT
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This thread made me look into my email and see that I have been on David Hofhine's waiting list for 3 years...a year over his estimated time...
https://i.imgur.com/oHZE1Pv.jpg I would contact him. My last two waits with him were about 2 years (one of those pretty recently). |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 12:12:58 PM EDT
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Really? I would contact him. My last two waits with him were about 2 years (one of those pretty recently). . I would like to get it done though.
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