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LOL....Fast forward to when the grinding starts then read the thread......It's like a a million "purists" cried out in agony with the noise in the background.
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There are so many videos regarding Japanese sword polishing, and some are worth seeing and some are not.
I think this is a good one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x5WzIu5iXU |
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years? Also note that I said “IF” it was an old quality blade, then he ruined it. |
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I use one of those old Japanese swords to trim bushes in the garden. It works great better than the new stuff
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If watching Antiques Roadshow on PBS taught me anything, it is not to try to restore old stuff you think may be valuable. View Quote Why is everyone assuming it had any collectors’ value? He restored a rusty sword. How do you folks treat your rusty tools? |
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. View Quote |
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Lol at sword snobs, first they berate you for not signing up for their hand polished hob nobbery then immediately tell you your sword isn't worth what it is going to cost for the prescribed polishing.
If you generate enough heat grinding on that fucker to effect the heat treat it wasn't worth a fuck to begin with. |
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The vinegar part was bad, but I almost threw up when he brought out the power tools.
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Um, excuse me - I am NOT a sword snob. I am a sword nerd and/or dork. It’s an important distinction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. |
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So a guy takes a $50 garbage sword and turns it into a $40 nice look sword. And people freak out.
Who cares. To each their own. Just think, in 500 years, it may be worth something and no one will ever know it was "restored". |
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LOL @ sword snobs, nerds, and/or dorks however they identify. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent. But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style. To each their own, I guess. |
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His blade to do with as he pleases, right. That's what GD says when someone chops up a Win 97, Ithica or A5 Browning to replicate a trench gun.
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I guess there’s lots of different flavors of sword snobs/nerds/dorks etc. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent. But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style. To each their own, I guess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at sword snobs, ... It’s an important distinction. FTR, I understand the valuable nature of antiquities and recognize the connection to finely crafted artifacts, but folks go waaaaaay over the top on these things. I personally don’t get the people who collect fictional swords, like Klingon sword, or sword from movies, and stuff like that. I am also confused by people who pay thousands of dollars for newly made “Japanese” swords (made in China) when they could probably have found an actual Japanese sword from the 1600s for the amount of money they spent. But, I also accept that others might not understand why I would spend lots of money getting old swords - that were already in perfect condition - re-polished in a different visual style. To each their own, I guess. A $10k sword that is 500 years old makes more sense to me than a $3500 Glick built this year. |
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. View Quote |
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So... He gave it way or is it on loan? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I knew a guy (just acquaintance) who gambled on a rusty old blade in a barrel of junk at a knife and gun show. Paid I think $300 for it. He photographed the maker mark which was still semi-legible and inquired about it. Long story short it was sent to Japan where it was fully restored at no cost to him and is now an exhibit in a museum. It is appraised at over $30,000. Before restoration you could hardly tell it was a sword blade. After restoration it looked like it was made yesterday.* That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. NBTHK is the primary organization that authenticates Japanese swords, and issues formal paperwork. They hold “shinsa” events multiple times a year, in which you can submit blades, and experts will evaluate them. If a sword is deemed authentic, and of sufficient quality and importance, they will issue paperwork - at four different levels of importance. So it is very normal to submit a blade to a NBTHK shinsa, if you believe it is a good quality or important blade. However, when you submit a sword, you accept the condition that the NBTHK is allowed to “borrow” your sword and put it in their museum if it turns out to be a particularly important sword. I am not sure what the time limit it, but I think they are allowed to hold onto swords for at least a couple of years. So that could be what happened. |
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Why is he an idiot before storing, it was garbage. After restoring it was good enough to hang on a wall.
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Not on my wall!
Maybe the wall at the local metal recycler's. But that was TERRIBLE. I have a lot of respect for Japanese sword polishers. The amount of patience it takes to keep rubbing a piece of steel over a rock for weeks on end is an effort I would not be able to sustain. I'm just too ADD-ish. |
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Wow, so he cleaned up a 10 year old sword and some of you guys are getting your panties in a wad...lol.
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I am not a sword person whatsoever.
Having said that, after watching that video it appears "Bubba's" have infected Asia. I sure hope that sword was not a quality sword to begin with. |
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LOL....I'm still on the look-out for a "meh" 20s era Rem. Model 11 to make into a Whippet.....Friction tape and all. I have a roll of tape just waiting. http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc387/Glockmonger_/gunsmithing/glockmonger_bonnieparker_clydebarrow_11a5.jpg~original View Quote |
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years? View Quote i mean, the 'sword' kanji in the habaki is a pretty good indicator that it's crap, but nonetheless, he's claiming that he 'restored' it. that's a joke. |
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It looks pretty nice after his work. Yes, I know the original patina is lost... View Quote That sword was junk. Unless it had been made my some rare/amazing smith. Any run of the mill smith and it was worthless to start with. A good sword polisher could still restore that sword amusing it's value would make it worth a $3,000 sword polishing. |
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The one closeup they showed of the blade afterwards looked like hammered shit. I doubt it was worth much to begin with but he did not do a very good job at all. View Quote |
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I polished a new blade that I ordered and it came to me rough ground. I had better results than him just using the sandpaper method.
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LoL at some of you that think he dug up 500 year old Excalibur and ruined it.
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LoL at some of you that think he dug up 500 year old Excalibur and ruined it. View Quote Attached File ...is not 'gunsmithing". |
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This thread made me look into my email and see that I have been on David Hofhine's waiting list for 3 years...a year over his estimated time... https://i.imgur.com/oHZE1Pv.jpg View Quote I would contact him. My last two waits with him were about 2 years (one of those pretty recently). |
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