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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:24:33 PM EDT
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That’s a solid number in 1998 |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:30:47 PM EDT
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I've connected 20Mbps dsl before. A homeowner isn't going to have a filter to do that if it isn't already. And if his loop is 15,000ft plus, it isn't getting much better. You can also spend money and buy one like this that just snaps into your Telephone network interface box: 
But yeah, if the loop is miles away that will be the limiting factor here. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:31:34 PM EDT
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Oh please. I live about a quarter of a mile from Microsoft, and I'd love to have a connection that fast. Also, most of my friends would too. If you live in a very tech area, you'll typically have slower connections due to the early adaptor problem.z Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That’s a solid number in 1998 Gigabit coming this year, per Comcast. We'll see if they live up to that. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:32:28 PM EDT
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I think my kids watch goes faster than that.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:33:41 PM EDT
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I just ran it again. The Download Speed is 2.17Mbps and the Upload Speed is .46 Mbps. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:37:33 PM EDT
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You know how I know op isn't a gamer or watches any digital media? Sorry about your internet  Now video on the other hand....Well....He aint watchin hi def. In fact, youtube doesnt even like this guy. 
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:40:58 PM EDT
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Depends on what you are paying for, If you pay for 10 and get 2.5 thats slow. If you pay for 2.5 and get 2.5 then you get what you are paying for. Ask your provider. I live on a 5 meg connection, can watch all the Prime I want in SD and the work from home wife can do all the remote vpn connectivity she needs. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:42:17 PM EDT
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I get about 3.6 average.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:43:51 PM EDT
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The average speed in the US is 93.98Mbps as of 2018. 2.5Mbps was slow even in the early 2000s. We'll get anywhere from 9 to less than 1 on DSL and that is all we have. 2.5 seems a bit anemic though. Fiber is supposed to be on the way with 400Mbs speeds. Quite the difference, but if you were to "average" it, we shoudl expect over 200Mbs right now, right? |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:47:53 PM EDT
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I just checked my speed is 0.75 down and 0.26 up.
Edit with a 206 ping Verizon 3 bars of LTE |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:48:48 PM EDT
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I'm rural and fired Frontier for charging me $60/month for 1.5mb down dsl and switched over to using a mobile carrier for $40/mo, so far so good and I see speeds of 5-20mbps down now.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Rural-internet--Alternative/5-2161887/ |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:51:34 PM EDT
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Mine is like 5.5. It's slow.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:55:40 PM EDT
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Mom and dad had a 10 year old DSL plan. It ran about that speed and buffered with amazon video. I called century link. They upgraded their phone plan and internet speed without a price increase. Bumped their speed up to 15 mbps i think.... Thats fast enough for a couple of devices running video.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:59:28 PM EDT
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That's basically nearly unusable now.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 2:59:48 PM EDT
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Gigabit masterrace here. Service that slow would drive me nuts OP
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:03:26 PM EDT
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DSL is capable of 6Mbps - potentially. 
ADSL2+ which is probably what the OP is using is good up to about 20Mbps after overhead. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:34:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I had DSL I just used a standard cheapie jack fileter that I spliced into the line where it entered my house. Rann a CAT3 line direct to the DSL modem connected to the line before the filter. Worked like a champ and gave much better UL/DL speeds. You can also spend money and buy one like this that just snaps into your Telephone network interface box: https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-51j4f4gi/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2610/4582/95S-1-11__59866.1314373186.jpg But yeah, if the loop is miles away that will be the limiting factor here. 
<---- 20 year field telecom tech. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:36:04 PM EDT
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ADSL2+ which is probably what the OP is using is good up to about 20Mbps after overhead. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:43:10 PM EDT
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Very few live in "Average" internet areas. We'll get anywhere from 9 to less than 1 on DSL and that is all we have. 2.5 seems a bit anemic though. Fiber is supposed to be on the way with 400Mbs speeds. Quite the difference, but if you were to "average" it, we shoudl expect over 200Mbs right now, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The average speed in the US is 93.98Mbps as of 2018. 2.5Mbps was slow even in the early 2000s. We'll get anywhere from 9 to less than 1 on DSL and that is all we have. 2.5 seems a bit anemic though. Fiber is supposed to be on the way with 400Mbs speeds. Quite the difference, but if you were to "average" it, we shoudl expect over 200Mbs right now, right? |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:44:23 PM EDT
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Yep, and VDSL runs 50. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ADSL2+ which is probably what the OP is using is good up to about 20Mbps after overhead. After we got fiber availability though last year I don't think I could live somewhere that I couldn't get at least 300Mbps/100Mbps. I mean since starting the backup from my house over my OpenVPN connection to my offline drive at the office around 9AM I've pushed 183Gb and counting at 130Mbps to my backup drive. Both work and home internet are still completely usable as work has a 1Gbps/1Gbps connection. It's not even noticeable actually that I'm doing anything. If you're a gamer though nowadays with 50GB+ updates coming out every other week it seems for games DSL just isn't going to cut it. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:45:59 PM EDT
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You're the reason we can't embed .gifs.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:46:02 PM EDT
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The vast majority of Americans, population-wise, live in the "average" areas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The average speed in the US is 93.98Mbps as of 2018. 2.5Mbps was slow even in the early 2000s. We'll get anywhere from 9 to less than 1 on DSL and that is all we have. 2.5 seems a bit anemic though. Fiber is supposed to be on the way with 400Mbs speeds. Quite the difference, but if you were to "average" it, we shoudl expect over 200Mbs right now, right? |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:46:12 PM EDT
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or just call your provider and have a tech come out and do it.
<---- 20 year field telecom tech. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: When I had DSL I just used a standard cheapie jack fileter that I spliced into the line where it entered my house. Rann a CAT3 line direct to the DSL modem connected to the line before the filter. Worked like a champ and gave much better UL/DL speeds. You can also spend money and buy one like this that just snaps into your Telephone network interface box: https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-51j4f4gi/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2610/4582/95S-1-11__59866.1314373186.jpg But yeah, if the loop is miles away that will be the limiting factor here.
<---- 20 year field telecom tech. If you are unlucky and have Frontier for DSL (I think they started out with all the things that Verizon didn't want), then I doubt they are going to ever upgrade existing infrastructure, they seem to not give a crap in general and even less so about their old rural areas. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:49:25 PM EDT
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That's pretty fuckin terrible. I'm thinking about upgrading to gigabit. https://www.speedtest.net/result/9057237794.png Well, then of course we'll deal with the same issues we always have. Oversubscription will rear it's ugly head and everyone will slow down. Pro tip: Your ISP doesn't have enough backhaul or uplink capacity to give every customer all the bandwidth they are currently paying for all the time. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 3:54:25 PM EDT
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You're the reason we can't embed .gifs. 
Huh? |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 4:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah our guy said anything past my ~1.5 wasn't going to happen as long as they weren't going to upgrade something or other down the line. If you are unlucky and have Frontier for DSL (I think they started out with all the things that Verizon didn't want), then I doubt they are going to ever upgrade existing infrastructure, they seem to not give a crap in general and even less so about their old rural areas. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:09:04 PM EDT
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On my phone in a cinder block hanger with metal roofing and 1 bar I get 8Mpbps.
At home on my router, under 100 and I'm calling my provider |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:18:50 PM EDT
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Its not great. But if that's the best you have available..... Its not horrible.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:41:03 PM EDT
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The vast majority of Americans, population-wise, live in the "average" areas. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:51:41 PM EDT
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This statement makes my head hurt. An impossible idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The vast majority of Americans, population-wise, live in the "average" areas. 
(Source: https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/connect2health/#ll=40,-95&z=4&t=broadband&bbm=fixed_access&dmf=none&zlt=county) |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 6:09:44 PM EDT
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That's pretty fuckin terrible. I'm thinking about upgrading to gigabit. https://www.speedtest.net/result/9057237794.png
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Posted: 2/20/2020 6:22:39 PM EDT
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at&t is 15 Mbps for DSL
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Posted: 2/20/2020 6:25:49 PM EDT
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DSL is capable of 6Mbps - potentially. It depends upon how far you are from the DSLAM. It also depends on the quality of your wiring in your house. Typical situation is that the DSL signal goes through the entire house tip and ring wiring and there is a filter on anything connected to a jact except the DSL modem/router. A better solution is to put the DSL filter at the service entrance - run a direct high quality (ethernet) wire to the modem and feed the house through the filter. That should eliminate any issues from poor house wiring. You need at least 4.5Mps to lives stream an HD movie. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 6:27:47 PM EDT
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Frontier still sells an 864k down plan, and I've installed it several times recently. You can stream Netflix with no problem according to the salesman
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Posted: 2/20/2020 6:42:53 PM EDT
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This statement makes my head hurt. An impossible idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The vast majority of Americans, population-wise, live in the "average" areas. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DSL can be around 35 Mbps with standard equipment and decent lines |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:28:05 PM EDT
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That's about what my speeds are on my att hotspot. Its fast enough to stream netflix without buffering but the quality goes in and out
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:32:47 PM EDT
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Fiber optic master race.
I was sitting at 2 upload and .8 download before fiber. It's at 800 and 1000 now :) It's a shame its not available everywhere yet. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:33:19 PM EDT
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Doing better than I am, OP!
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:44:19 PM EDT
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Distance plays a bigger role in how fast DSL can go. So an upgraded modem may not speed him up, just make it more reliable. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 8:20:58 PM EDT
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Get a netgear nighthawk m1, the external outdoor antenna. Beam style and point it towards a cell tower. Along with a tplink ac1750 router. Theres maps online shows tower locations. Thenngo on ebay and buy a grandfathered ATT buisness account for 35$. Pay the 35$ a month for internet. Depending on how congested the cell tower is, i have seen speeds over 250mps sometimes alot higher. This the solution i replaced my parents dsl with and even dropped expensive xfinity at my house. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 8:51:11 PM EDT
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I just ran a speed test on my internet service and it's showing 2.5mbps.....I'm out in the sticks so it's DSL.....no fiber optic lines here. My question is, for a typical DSL setup, is 2.5 normal? Tony Rumore Tromix |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 11:15:00 PM EDT
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My mom was getting 0.75 Mbps over her DSL, which is what she was paying for as well (over $80/month for is also). One of the huge disadvantages of country living.
Very poor cell reception, so that was not an option either. It worked well enough for her needs most of the time (e-mail, basic web browsing). If she wanted to download something or watch a video, she would start it and walk off, come back about 10-15 minutes later and watch it. She moved and now has a 100 Mbps plan (gets 120 all the time though) and does not know what to do with all that speed. I actually had to get her a new computer because I never realized how slow the computer was because I thought it was just the slow internet, but it was the whole computer. I have a 65 Mbps plan, and recently noticed my speeds have jumped from 65-70 now up to 90. More speed than I need as well even with 2 streaming TV's, 2 teens on their phones, an x-box as well as a few tablets and computers, but for $40/month, I am ok with it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:28:19 AM EDT
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That and LECs don't have much interest in upgrading plant in rural markets. Where I work, in a small city in a rural area. Max DSL is 6mb, the cable company is getting 300mb even in the sticks. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:34:03 AM EDT
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Slow.
I usually don't bother with less than 100Mbps if I can help it. Stayed in an adobe igloo in Big Bend area (middle of nowhere), guy had it wired for satellite internet, was able to get good speeds, could stream music/hd videos. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:35:43 AM EDT
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I couldn’t even read through the first page of this thread before getting really sad. I haven’t run anything less that 100MBps (to my router; some loss of that over WiFi) up and down since 2012... 2.5Mbps (or 2.5MBps) would mean I’d just go to the library and check out a book.
Sorry to hear you can’t get fiber where you are at and best of luck! |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:15:06 AM EDT
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The vast majority of Americans, population-wise, live in the "average" areas. https://i.imgur.com/d8VTvBR.png (Source: https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/connect2health/#ll=40,-95&z=4&t=broadband&bbm=fixed_access&dmf=none&zlt=county) |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:18:50 AM EDT
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Frontier still sells an 864k down plan, and I've installed it several times recently. You can stream Netflix with no problem according to the salesman |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 1:32:58 AM EDT
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I have 2 options since dialup is gone. Dish network or the like and latency is shit, to upload a 10 min video to YT on dish it would take 3 days.
DSL here is 10.17 and upload is .61 Its really poor. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 3:07:10 AM EDT
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I've looked into this but that router is $350. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get a netgear nighthawk m1, the external outdoor antenna. Beam style and point it towards a cell tower. Along with a tplink ac1750 router. Theres maps online shows tower locations. Thenngo on ebay and buy a grandfathered ATT buisness account for 35$. Pay the 35$ a month for internet. Depending on how congested the cell tower is, i have seen speeds over 250mps sometimes alot higher. This the solution i replaced my parents dsl with and even dropped expensive xfinity at my house. That nighthawk will pay for itself in 3 months with 100x dl/up speed increase, and you can take it anywhere with you. 350$ is pennys when it comes to quality internet speed. |
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