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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:28:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: Soldiers don't murder children in their car seats and cribs. These a terrorists in every sense of the word |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:29:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Yep. WP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8Jt4qXW8AAHL_h?format=jpg&name=medium Yep. WP. The nuance for artillery is when referring to WP we are talking about a differant round with a solid fill of WP. What they are shooting is a smoke round, that happens to have WP in it, but is more for smoke and less for incendiary, Anti-material, and marking. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:29:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlamTX]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Pakistan would remain in China pocket https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/20/pakistan-imran-khan-coup-china/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5420_png-2986976.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By GarandM1: The problem for the political leaders of the Arab and Muslim world is while most of them are in the second group, most of their populations are in the first group. One well-timed Islamic coup in Egypt, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia could change this conflict significantly. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/20/pakistan-imran-khan-coup-china/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5420_png-2986976.JPG https://media.nti.org/pdfs/pakistan_missile.pdf Oddly enough they were flying US F-86s during the wars with India. Super pro American sentiment in higher military ranks then. Harboring Osama 30 years later. Don't trust them. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:31:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RR_Broccoli: White Phosphorus shell. Air burst and scatters burning metal (like sodium, won't stop burning) in a pattern. That flying squid pattern almost always means that type of shell. Used for "marking" or lighting officially however if it gets on you it burrows in and burns, and it starts fires. Officially why it's 'illegal' according to some pussies that have no business talking about war. It's a good option if you are trying to start something on fire. It replaced napalm in a lot of roles. "Willie Pete" "WP" and other names. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RR_Broccoli: Originally Posted By macro: What is this? Used for "marking" or lighting officially however if it gets on you it burrows in and burns, and it starts fires. Officially why it's 'illegal' according to some pussies that have no business talking about war. It's a good option if you are trying to start something on fire. It replaced napalm in a lot of roles. "Willie Pete" "WP" and other names. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:32:21 AM EDT
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:32:33 AM EDT
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Hearing through chat that an emergency govt was formed(?)
Today might be the day |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:32:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tsg68: As if giving the Palestinians an independent nation is gonna stop their bullshit .they done fucked up this time. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:34:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sh768: Hearing through chat that an emergency govt was formed(?) Today might be the day Que? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:34:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnspark: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272379/IMG_3100_jpeg-2986990.JPG What's is the Gaza version of McDonalds? McDead |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:35:18 AM EDT
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Boom after boom after boom.
fascinating. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:35:54 AM EDT
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:35:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sh768]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PilotMacGruber: McDead Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PilotMacGruber: Originally Posted By johnspark: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272379/IMG_3100_jpeg-2986990.JPG What's is the Gaza version of McDonalds? McDead Scuttlebutt was the Israelis wanted to form a "better" compromise govt to lend more legitimacy to the ground incursion. A function of their parliamentary style of govt Edit: I replied to the wrong comment. I'm not very smart |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:36:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SavedByTheBlood: Que? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SavedByTheBlood: Originally Posted By sh768: Hearing through chat that an emergency govt was formed(?) Today might be the day Que? @savedbytheblood https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-nears-forming-emergency-government-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-10/ |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:36:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: The nuance for artillery is when referring to WP we are talking about a differant round with a solid fill of WP. What they are shooting is a smoke round, that happens to have WP in it, but is more for smoke and less for incendiary, Anti-material, and marking. Yeah, you're right. I thought it looked funny with the first image. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:36:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Boom after boom after boom. fascinating. Building didn’t drop though |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:37:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: I'd like to see a map of that delivery route. Lol.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:38:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Thanks. Learn something new every day. That is M825, aka felt wedge smoke, there are 116 WP impregnated WP that are ejected either at 50 or 100m to produce a smokre screen. It does have a secondary side effect of causing fires, and displaceing air. The safety of use you have to keep in mind when using it is the phorphoric acid produces is a toxic smoke. NAPALM is a bit differant, and much better if you are attempting to do anti-structural work. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALostKey: Building didn’t drop though Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALostKey: Originally Posted By RayFromJersey: Boom after boom after boom. fascinating. Building didn’t drop though Better construction than I expected from goat fuckers. The pillars are strong in that one! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:40:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: These people are so dumb.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:41:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: Correct. All Palis are Hamas until Hamas ceases to exist. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:41:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Our indirect fires are far more directed than commonly known, so It'd surprise you. Needless to say, ours can be even more accurate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By xd341: Remember gw1 and the US putting TLAMs through doorways? The IAF is doing similar to get 14 story buildings to drop in their own footprint. I don't think we've ever done that. They are conducting controlled demolitions with F16s. What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts. I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated. Our indirect fires are far more directed than commonly known, so It'd surprise you. Needless to say, ours can be even more accurate. Genius is IAF setting delayed fusing so the JDAM or dumb bombs penetrate to the lower levels of the building before initiating. Shear genius. The fact that Palistinians siphoned off steel beams and rebar to use in tunnel building instead of building to engineering code helps too. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:42:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Shit hit it again! I want to watch it fall now,
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:42:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Levi24]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnspark: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272379/IMG_3100_jpeg-2986990.JPG What's is the Gaza version of McDonalds? Everything is 5.56 or 7.62 shekels for the meal deals. Special arfcom rate of 87 shekels for the bonus family size meal. No dollar or shekel menu. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:43:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnriverluver: Better construction than I expected from goat fuckers. The pillars are strong in that one! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By ALostKey: Originally Posted By RayFromJersey: Boom after boom after boom. fascinating. Building didn't drop though Better construction than I expected from goat fuckers. The pillars are strong in that one! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:43:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PoiDog: That is something most don't think about. I am, to say the least, no fan of royalty. Anywhere, at any time, it sucks if you're not 'royal'. I'm not defending communism, since we're surrounded by it right here in our country. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PoiDog: Originally Posted By neshomamench: As a real data point…..and one few ever think about…. Communism was, for many people, a damned better system than the Tsar. That is something most don't think about. I am, to say the least, no fan of royalty. Anywhere, at any time, it sucks if you're not 'royal'. I'm not defending communism, since we're surrounded by it right here in our country. I don't think it's true at all and there's famous books showing what a disaster it was right from the beginning. There was also a lot of lies/cognitive dissonance coming out of the early soviet union. Lots of folks in the West were duped into thinking it was working. A great book on the subject is "The Anti-Communist Manifestos" by John Fleming. It details the writings of 4 contemporaries of the time. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:43:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Thanks. Learn something new every day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli: Originally Posted By macro: What is this? Used for "marking" or lighting officially however if it gets on you it burrows in and burns, and it starts fires. Officially why it's 'illegal' according to some pussies that have no business talking about war. It's a good option if you are trying to start something on fire. It replaced napalm in a lot of roles. "Willie Pete" "WP" and other names. One exception to what he wrote: Phosphorous is a non-metal. The products of its combustion are also toxic. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:44:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:44:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dcs12345]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:45:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: texashomeserver]
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:45:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moyockgunner: Genius is IAF setting delayed fusing so the JDAM or dumb bombs penetrate to the lower levels of the building before initiating. Shear genius. The fact that Palistinians siphoned off steel beams and rebar to use in tunnel building instead of building to engineering code helps too. That is pretty smart. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:45:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curmudgeon762: What type of anti-ship assets is not the most important “big picture” subject. Not even if what they have is capable of penetrating all the levels of defenses we should have in place. Most important topic is the big IF they use them. Iran fires at one of our ships and we will be in direct combat with them (and probably others). Might not be a bad thing but large scale combat operations, even just Navy/AF, changes everything. It will even have a major impact on the next election cycle. I’m not saying that’s some even plan, I’m just saying trying to sink a USN vessel of that stature will absolutely kick things up a few orders of magnitude It really does boil down to decisions in Tehran but my casual impression is Iran prefers to bog opponents down with local opposition that they support logistically, with advisors and play the “we’re over here doing nothing wrong, we have no control over the outrage or actions of the locals” but it’s remotely possible Iran gauges an opportunity to exploit any potential perceived weakness of Israel and follows thru on recent threats to use their ballistic missiles on Israel. As of this time Tehran says they will act if attacked. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:46:25 AM EDT
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Someone forgot to turn off the cell service in Gaza.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:46:27 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drsalee: All Palis are Hamas until Hamas ceases to exist. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:46:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Moyockgunner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: I like how we can now see where those cameras are located since the two cameras are focused on that one building now. That might be its undoing...LOL somewhere in Israel some Staff NCO is busy with a paper map and a set of straight edges. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmburns33: It will be interesting to see if the Israeli's can effectively keep enemy drones out of the air. If not, as we've seen from Ukraine, they are going to have an even harder time. One big advantage Israel has on that front is that it is a much smaller area and it is much hard to resupply drones in Gaza. Now, on the northern front, that is a different story |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:46:56 AM EDT
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Where are the GBU-43/Bs? Seems like this would hasten the flattening of Gaza quite a bit. How many would it take?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:47:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:47:57 AM EDT
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What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:48:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: It really does boil down to decisions in Tehran but my casual impression is Iran prefers to bog opponents down with local opposition that they support logistically, with advisors and play the “we’re over here doing nothing wrong, we have no control over the outrage or actions of the locals” but it’s remotely possible Iran gauges an opportunity to exploit any potential perceived weakness of Israel and follows thru on recent threats to use their ballistic missiles on Israel. As of this time Tehran says they will act if attacked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: What type of anti-ship assets is not the most important “big picture” subject. Not even if what they have is capable of penetrating all the levels of defenses we should have in place. Most important topic is the big IF they use them. Iran fires at one of our ships and we will be in direct combat with them (and probably others). Might not be a bad thing but large scale combat operations, even just Navy/AF, changes everything. It will even have a major impact on the next election cycle. I’m not saying that’s some even plan, I’m just saying trying to sink a USN vessel of that stature will absolutely kick things up a few orders of magnitude It really does boil down to decisions in Tehran but my casual impression is Iran prefers to bog opponents down with local opposition that they support logistically, with advisors and play the “we’re over here doing nothing wrong, we have no control over the outrage or actions of the locals” but it’s remotely possible Iran gauges an opportunity to exploit any potential perceived weakness of Israel and follows thru on recent threats to use their ballistic missiles on Israel. As of this time Tehran says they will act if attacked. Time to bring down the source. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Remember gw1 and the US putting TLAMs through doorways? The IAF is doing similar to get 14 story buildings to drop in their own footprint. I don't think we've ever done that. They are conducting controlled demolitions with F16s. What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts. I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In: I would think that all of Gaza is in easy range for conventional artillery from Israel. I'm surprised that they prefer to use air strikes. That suggests to me that they are going out of their way to be careful with targeting. IMO an impressive display of restraint. What takes engineers and demo experts weeks of work and a bunch of cutting charges the IAF is doing in half a second, from a plane doing 500 kts. I may be simple, but it's very impressive and I think the effort they are putting in to contain damages to the target is under appreciated. The real purpose is to minimize the debris in the roadways for the ground invasion. If they dropped the buildings haphazardly they would end up making it really difficult to bring in armor to support their infantry. Also by blowing out the buildings foundation they are collapsing any tunnel entrance in the building. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:49:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies? Hez is basically a mafia that acts as a state within a state, including providing basic services. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:49:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies? Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers control most of the Lebanese government. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:50:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GST:
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/10/11/iraqs-hezbollah-threatens-to-attack-us-military-supporting-israel/  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike-Honcho: Didn’t the Japanese kill over 200k Chinese civilians for helping the Doolittle raiders? The Japs killed so many Chinese in very creative ways that there is still a deep hate between the two cultures. They were quite busy even before the Doolittle raid. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:51:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers control most of the Lebanese government. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Originally Posted By macro: What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies? Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers control most of the Lebanese government. They have done a great job, Lebanon is a paradise .... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:51:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moyockgunner: That might be its undoing...LOL somewhere in Israel some Staff NCO is busy with a paper map and a set of straight edges. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moyockgunner: Originally Posted By RayFromJersey: I like how we can now see where those cameras are located since the two cameras are focused on that one building now. That might be its undoing...LOL somewhere in Israel some Staff NCO is busy with a paper map and a set of straight edges. Why would you take out the cameras? They provide instant bomb damage assessment |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:52:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Never underestimate God's chosen nation. You mean the USA? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:54:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies? No, to oversimplify imagine Lebanon has Republican Party, Democrat Party and other smaller parties but imagine the Democrats were all in with Iran. That’s an oversimplified explanation. There’s Druze Christians and others opposed to Hezbollah like Republicans are opposed to Joe Biden. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:54:48 AM EDT
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What is that big building with all the cranes on it? Why is it still standing? Those tv or cell towers with blinking lights?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 9:54:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers control most of the Lebanese government. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Originally Posted By macro: What is the connection between Iran and Lebanon? Reuters is reporting that Hezbolla launched rockets at Israel from within the Lebanon border. My understanding is that Hezbolla is backed by Iran. Are Lebanon and Iran allies? Hezbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers control most of the Lebanese government. I don’t see how any of this will stop without the cleansing of not just Gaza but the West Bank, Golan Heights, Hezbollah territory of Lebanon, and Syria then heavily militarized the Egypt border when doing it. Iran cannot project power into the area if their friends are occupied. Israel should invade and kill every suspect terrorist and every leader of every country and area. The pull back and say they will do it again if needed. |
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