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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:26:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ShooterPatriot]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gettysburg30: i didnt think there was much of the old liquid rounds wp left. HOB seems high but its hard to tell from the picture. We are still producing both the M110A2 and M852A1. M110 has been around since ww2 and was originally made to house other chemicals. It's an HE round with a thinner shell wall filled with WP with a burst rod down the center. Typically fired with an impact or proximity fuze. M852A1 is a cargo round fired with a time fuze to dispense 116 felt wedges saturated with WP at a higher altitude. They disburse over a wider area and produce a better smoke screen than m110. The screen can be to obscure friendlies, or placed directly on top of hostiles to blind them. Eta: what you are seeing is the equivalent to our m852a1 round. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:26:05 AM EDT
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How's the weather on the plains of Megiddo looking?
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DC, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:26:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: McSplodie McBombAll |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:27:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:27:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:27:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: No, man, you're thinking of the Beatles. lol i'm not that versed in European history. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:28:04 AM EDT
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Previously a friend learned that one of his coworkers was among the kidnapped.... the body has been found.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:28:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I wasn't making a joke, with my image, either.  I'll stay on topic here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By J_Von_Random: Whatever mod edited my post as "not a humorous topic", seriously? "Khorne smiles" is like saying "Satan smiles". It isn't a joke, it is making the connection of how evil something is. I wasn't making a joke, with my image, either. I'll stay on topic here. And yet neither one of you received a warning. Give us a break here. We are doing our best, on a fast moving topic. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:28:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: China and initially North Korea were the primary source for Pakistani missile technology even though they were "allies" with us. https://media.nti.org/pdfs/pakistan_missile.pdf Oddly enough they were flying US F-86s during the wars with India. Super pro American sentiment in higher military ranks then. Harboring Osama 30 years later. Don't trust them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By GarandM1: The problem for the political leaders of the Arab and Muslim world is while most of them are in the second group, most of their populations are in the first group. One well-timed Islamic coup in Egypt, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia could change this conflict significantly. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/20/pakistan-imran-khan-coup-china/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5420_png-2986976.JPG https://media.nti.org/pdfs/pakistan_missile.pdf Oddly enough they were flying US F-86s during the wars with India. Super pro American sentiment in higher military ranks then. Harboring Osama 30 years later. Don't trust them. I think any allegiance Pakistan had to the US died with Zia ul haq |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:29:05 AM EDT
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I’ll leave it to SMEs to answer, but wouldn’t it make sense to say start at one end of Gaza and bite off a chunk, isolate and clear in small bites?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:29:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wspe1: Israel needs to keep an eye on its munitions expenditure rate. Also Israel needs to maintain stockpiles/reserves to defend itself from any potential counter offensives from any enemy or peer threats. I hope that Israel has someone, anyone who deals with logistics, otherwise that could be a nightmare. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:30:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: EU warns Musk over 'illegal' disinformation about Israel-Hamas conflict on X  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhGagKsXiUcThe European Union has called out Elon Musk and social media platform 'X' following a rise in "illegal content and disinformation". The warning was issued in a letter by the EU Digital Chief, Thierry Breton, who demanded the tech billionaire respond to the complaint within 24 hours. The platform had been swamped with posts containing false reports and exaggerated figures following Hamas' unprecedented attack on Israel over the weekend. Content moderation has been a source of major criticism for Musk, since his takeover of the social media platform in 2022. Experts fear the rise of misinformation on the web platform may provoke further real world harm. God forbid someone tells us on there and lies about WMDs, because that's never happened before Twitter. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:30:53 AM EDT
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Any bets on whether our current regime decides to tie ukraine funding to Israeli funding?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:33:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Some_Beach]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Any bets on whether our current regime decides to tie ukraine funding to Israeli funding? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:34:00 AM EDT
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 Failed To Load Title  ???? .. ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????? ???????? ?????????? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:34:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stutzmech: I'll leave it to SMEs to answer, but wouldn't it make sense to say start at one end of Gaza and bite off a chunk, isolate and clear in small bites? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:34:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 18aBro72]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dp226: At this point things have gone to the extreme. Does this mean that Israel will go after the male children of the leaders of Hamas wherever they are? Mosad use to be pretty good at taking out people around the world. When you declare total war on your enemy (Beheading their children, carrying off and raping their women), you better expect that your enemy is going to go total war on you in return. Now we get to see who is better trained and prepared for total war. My money is on Israel. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:35:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Tel Aviv missile strike - https://twitter.com/i/status/1712101722141733024 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8KcdK7WwAE-VpN?format=jpg&name=medium Yesha is not near Tel Aviv. It is right next to Gaza |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:35:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: What page was the tactical Rooster picture on? This thread was moving too fast last night and I forgot to save it. Found it, 252 |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Any bets on whether our current regime decides to tie ukraine funding to Israeli funding? House still has no speaker but the Republicans opposed to Ukraine have already addressed this, we’ll see who’s speaker and where the rubber meets the road later this month as it will probably be a circus even after the Speaker wacks his gavel for the first time https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/09/politics/ukraine-aid-congress-reaction-israel/index.html  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:36:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scuba_steve: And yet neither one of you received a warning. Give us a break here. We are doing our best, on a fast moving topic. I just wanted people to know that I wasn't joking. It wasn't a hit against mods. I appreciate the hard work of moderation in GD. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:37:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Does Corey still want to tear down the walls? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:37:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gettysburg30]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: There is still some M110 out there on the 155 side, the only time it is seen though is for TACP shoots. M110A3 made with reclaimed M483 bodies should be fielding in the near future. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By gettysburg30: Originally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8Jt4qXW8AAHL_h?format=jpg&name=medium Yep. WP. The nuance for artillery is when referring to WP we are talking about a differant round with a solid fill of WP. What they are shooting is a smoke round, that happens to have WP in it, but is more for smoke and less for incendiary, Anti-material, and marking. i didnt think there was much of the old liquid rounds wp left. HOB seems high but its hard to tell from the picture. There is still some M110 out there on the 155 side, the only time it is seen though is for TACP shoots. M110A3 made with reclaimed M483 bodies should be fielding in the near future. ok gtk i havent seen M110 since the late 90s. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:38:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18aBro72: Any bets on whether our current regime decides to tie ukraine funding to Israeli funding? They already tried/did/accomplished that. (Not sure which but it was super early on like within 24 hours I remember reading about it) |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:39:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fla556guy: Unless they have good intel on where things of value are at. If they have targets already, they'd be better off hitting those things first. Is the biggest problem anti armor rockets in moving into Gaza ? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:39:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Whamo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: Does Corey still want to tear down the walls? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:40:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: The issue with western liberals is that they think everyone is going to organically get along. That's a nice idea, and it would be great...but it's not reality. Humans are violent and biased. That is reality. When rival tribes encounter one another, they fight. Unless they are prepared to do the fighting, I'd suggest that they embrace walls. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Does Corey still want to tear down the walls? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/Corey_Booker_Palestine_jpg-2987035.JPG Yep. Those stupid bitches would be raped into next week. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:40:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mobjack: Arc Light for the win. We need to Lend-Lease a few BUFFs to Israel. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F62%2F66%2F4b%2F62664b2badf848e5b9d903ff02bed4ee.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=78b87038479486d1156bbfca593504c9c90dc6404963fe59d212cb33399e4903&ipo=images Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mobjack: Originally Posted By Lancelot: It really is a shame that Israel does not have any B-52's. They could carpet bomb the strip into rubble. A little operation linebacker would be good for the soul. Arc Light for the win. We need to Lend-Lease a few BUFFs to Israel. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F62%2F66%2F4b%2F62664b2badf848e5b9d903ff02bed4ee.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=78b87038479486d1156bbfca593504c9c90dc6404963fe59d212cb33399e4903&ipo=images It would like us bombing a Windsor from Detroit with B52s. They would barely be at altitude and would have to drop. Might as well take off with bomb bay door open. Lobbing explosives on tiny neighboring terrorist state is best done with 155mm Artillery, and its much cheaper. Gaza could look like Verdun in WWI in a week if they lined up all their M109 SP Arty and Towed Arty and had a days long FFE, at a fraction of the cost of B52s and dumb bombs. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:41:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ascendent: How's the weather on the plains of Megiddo looking? Looks like climate change. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:41:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: The issue with western liberals is that they think everyone is going to organically get along. That's a nice idea, and it would be great...but it's not reality. Humans are violent and biased. That is reality. When rival tribes encounter one another, they fight. Unless they are prepared to do the fighting, I'd suggest that they embrace walls. This. Ideology is their false god and freedom is their sacrifice. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:41:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: R0N]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShooterPatriot: We are still producing both the M110A2 and M852A1. M110 has been around since ww2 and was originally made to house other chemicals. It's an HE round with a thinner shell wall filled with WP with a burst rod down the center. Typically fired with an impact or proximity fuze. M852A1 is a cargo round fired with a time fuze to dispense 116 felt wedges saturated with WP at a higher altitude. They disburse over a wider area and produce a better smoke screen than m110. The screen can be to obscure friendlies, or placed directly on top of hostiles to blind them. Eta: what you are seeing is the equivalent to our m852a1 round. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShooterPatriot: Originally Posted By gettysburg30: i didnt think there was much of the old liquid rounds wp left. HOB seems high but its hard to tell from the picture. We are still producing both the M110A2 and M852A1. M110 has been around since ww2 and was originally made to house other chemicals. It's an HE round with a thinner shell wall filled with WP with a burst rod down the center. Typically fired with an impact or proximity fuze. M852A1 is a cargo round fired with a time fuze to dispense 116 felt wedges saturated with WP at a higher altitude. They disburse over a wider area and produce a better smoke screen than m110. The screen can be to obscure friendlies, or placed directly on top of hostiles to blind them. Eta: what you are seeing is the equivalent to our m852a1 round. VT is not approved on M110, if you need an airburst with it you use a ETSQ or a TISQ fuze. The M110 projectile is based on the M107 and a post Korean war developed projectile body. That projectile body family went out of production in the US years ago. The IDF used both US made and licensed domestic production of M825 series rounds. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:42:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:42:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: That guy is like probably one of the top 3 pro-russian accounts here. Not worth it, dude. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Coloring books don't count. That guy is like probably one of the top 3 pro-russian accounts here. Not worth it, dude. And he is no longer in this thread. General message to all - We will not tolerate personal attacks. Engage without resorting to them or you will be excused. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: Found it, 252 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig19: Originally Posted By craig19: What page was the tactical Rooster picture on? This thread was moving too fast last night and I forgot to save it. Found it, 252 Even so. Everyone needs FO Rooster. 
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:43:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: This is correct. Israel does not have to regional force projection necessary for a prolonged campaign beyond say Damascus. That said there is some room to work in the range that they do have effective force projection. Exactly. I’m sure a second front IS going to open up and Hezbollah is waiting for Israel supply lines to dry a bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mercworx: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: The Israelis don’t have that level of manpower for all of that. GD can say no hunh and be all upset with me as much as you all want but Israel does not have the ability for sustained air operations over Iran or ground forces to execute what you describe. This is correct. Israel does not have to regional force projection necessary for a prolonged campaign beyond say Damascus. That said there is some room to work in the range that they do have effective force projection. Originally Posted By wspe1: Israel needs to keep an eye on its munitions expenditure rate. Also Israel needs to maintain stockpiles/reserves to defend itself from any potential counter offensives from any enemy or peer threats. Exactly. I’m sure a second front IS going to open up and Hezbollah is waiting for Israel supply lines to dry a bit. Anyone aware of their current staffing and military draft status… I know in the past they had a number of exemptions, such as the ultra orthodox, and several other religions sects? This may be the time for every swinging dick to put on a uniform and serve! |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:44:43 AM EDT
[#36]
Iraqi politician threatens to target US interests if it backs Israel - The Jerusalem Post
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:45:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: The issue with western liberals is that they think everyone is going to organically get along. That's a nice idea, and it would be great...but it's not reality. Humans are violent and biased. That is reality. When rival tribes encounter one another, they fight. Unless they are prepared to do the fighting, I'd suggest that they embrace walls. Liberalism in general thinks people are inherently good. Its the hardship they face... racism, capitalism, whateverism, that makes them act out. Guess those poor people must have had a pretty hard life to saw the heads off kids. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:46:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/10/76420303-12617483-image-a-6_1697016359756.jpg For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be 120mm mortar HE rounds. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:49:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be 120mm mortar HE rounds. M825 and M107 |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:49:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be mortar HE rounds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/10/76420303-12617483-image-a-6_1697016359756.jpg For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be mortar HE rounds.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:50:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fla556guy: Be ready for stateside terrorism. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fla556guy: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Hezbollah statement - We are not at all surprised by the political positions and field actions taken by the US administration, especially the recent statements by the American President openly endorsing and declaring explicit support for the Zionist aggression and aggression against the Palestinian people. "This is the true essence of the complete American policy in its continuous support for aggression and terrorism since the inception of this occupying and usurping entity. "We consider the United States a full partner in the Zionist aggression and hold it fully responsible for the killings, crimes, siege, home demolitions, and horrific massacres against innocent civilians, including children, women, and the elderly. "We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation, who are well aware of the grim truth about America and its aggression against the peoples of our nation in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, to denounce American intervention and the involvement of its international and regional partners and expose this intervention on all political, popular, media, and legal levels and in various regional and international forums and gatherings. "The deployment of aircraft carriers to the region with the aim of boosting the morale of the defeated enemy and its disillusioned soldiers reveals the weakness of the Zionist military machine despite the crimes and massacres it commits. Consequently, it requires continuous external support to sustain this temporary usurping entity. "Therefore, we affirm that this step will not intimidate the peoples of our nation or the resistance factions that are prepared for the confrontation until final victory and complete liberation". How many calls to jihad and chants of death to America did we get after our response to 9/11? How many actually materialized? Granted in 2001 we had and intelligence apparatus that was focused on stopping such things while now they are worried about us white supremacists as the “greatest threat to our democracytm” so I guess we’ll see. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:50:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177432/81Jozb0vsGL__AC_UF894_1000_QL80__jpg-2987060.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/10/76420303-12617483-image-a-6_1697016359756.jpg For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be mortar HE rounds.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:50:48 AM EDT
[#43]
 IDF Spokesperson MAJ (Res.) Libby Weiss Sets the Record Straight |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:51:08 AM EDT
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Dang those camera guys are crazy. Danger close for real.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:51:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Iraqi politician threatens to target US interests if it backs Israel - The Jerusalem Post https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1711759139574108160/yHfs5_7c?format=jpg&name=900x900 He can get fucked. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:52:44 AM EDT
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Damn...that last round was close to the camera buildings.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:53:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/IMG_9678_jpeg-2986967.JPG  |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:53:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177432/81Jozb0vsGL__AC_UF894_1000_QL80__jpg-2987060.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/10/76420303-12617483-image-a-6_1697016359756.jpg For those who want to know, the pale green rounds are WP and the dark green ones are HE and both look to be 155mm. The small OD green ones look to be mortar HE rounds. ideally you don’t use 825 for a shell mix mission, but a smart FDO can figure out the down correction to allow it to suck the air out of the target area. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:53:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 10:53:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AeroEngineer]
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https://x.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1712078170667536670?s=46&t=bsiljsqKEJA166tebRfiuA
Moment of #IAF airstrike on Intaj bank in Khan Younis. Southern #Gaza One bomb, one building. |
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