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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: Variable, this is Knife, over. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:15:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like AI to me. I just spent two days making a video with a colleague. Every image and video are AI generated and the first person I showed it to said it looked real.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: There's a lot of conjecture being aired. Do we have confirmation of US aircraft deployment into combat? No. Likely just special ops at this point. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:15:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Legs11: Good question! As I understand it ALL citizens are conscripted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Legs11: Originally Posted By Alex3006: Originally Posted By 18aBro72: Originally Posted By Piratepast40: Originally Posted By craig19: The fact they have the restrictions they have is mind blowing. One third of Israeli citizens are Muslim. I don't have a solution, nor am I voicing an opinion, just pointing out that it's a potential problem. And? Their country, Their rules. No muslim can be armed, All Jews can be armed. Seems pretty simple to me. Exactly right. You only arm the Jews. Does anyone know if Israeli citizens who are Muslim are conscripted to serve in the IDF as most Jewish Israelis are? Good question! As I understand it ALL citizens are conscripted. Only Jews are conscripted, but Christians and Muslim Israelis do volunteer for service. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:15:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PetroAggie07: With the Hezbos opening up a second front in the North, at what point does Israel get less precise with their destruction of Gaza? If you're being attacked on multiple sides is it reasonable to continue to be surgical in your response? Some quotes already about them using dumb munitions. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macro: Not sure if already discussed, but now a Turkish official went on record saying that Netanyahu will die, and Erdogan is already questioning US support. Pretty illuminating to watch these nations pick sides. Very telling. I saw that as well. My money is on Turkey and Syria getting really friendly, really quick and ganging up on Israel. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: An Israeli father ensures his family escapes before being gunned down by Hamas terrorists.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-c2zbvUuIMaybe this should be re-posted in the why should I F'ing care thread |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:16:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:16:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Same, which is why I have zero interest in watching horror movies, death / dismemberment accident videos, or people being slaughtered on video. Ditto. But there is a part of me that feels I need to see it to justify my anger and disgust. I’d thought I’d largely been able to put behind me and block out the horrors i saw but this just brings it back and reminds me how much evil is in this world. It’s easier for many to ignore something happening on the other side of the world if it’s only grainy video but even that brings back the sounds and the smells….and the absolute desire to end those responsible |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:16:37 PM EDT
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Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization. They said it themselves:
 Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization. They said it themselves: |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:17:22 PM EDT
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back when the mega blast rocked Beirut at the port side grain complex i saw a bit of a documentary with ex- zionist norman finklestien explain how hezbollah now has 150,000 modern rockets that isreal actually fears and only option would be to evacuate civilians to crete or cyprus if time was allowed. these new hezbollah rockets are nothing even close to what hamas typically uses and are an actual threat that the isreali govt doesnt have proper way to address.
how many us carrier groups would be needed to eliminate 150,000 high grade rockets hezbollah now has all over southern lebanon? if fired all at once in say a few hours or whatever it takes what capabilities do us carrier groups really have at protecting them? are our capabilities even close to fighting that type of fight with carrier groups or no? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:17:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gpoman: No. Likely just special ops at this point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gpoman: Originally Posted By AlamTX: There's a lot of conjecture being aired. Do we have confirmation of US aircraft deployment into combat? No. Likely just special ops at this point. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:18:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: I never served, but I don't care to watch this war either. I haven't been watching anything on UKR, too. Shit blows up, people die and then it ends in a way that sets up for the next war. I do hope that Israel pulps their attackers and makes them as close to nonexistent as possible. There is a need for this to be recorded and shown to people. There are so many sheltered people who don’t know the true evil that exists in the world. However, the media is pretty much anti-Semitic and can’t be trusted to actual report on what is happening and not put their spin on it. I just personally have a hard time seeing it now, but it is a part of the world we live in. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:18:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:18:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlamTX: I'm certain they've already been there. That's how they work. They’ve probably been there for a couple of days. High value targets and hostage missions. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Iraqi politician threatens to target US interests if it backs Israel - The Jerusalem Post https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1711759139574108160/yHfs5_7c?format=jpg&name=900x900 Iraqi Politican must be a special kinda of stupid. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Do we still have nukes stored at Incirlik? Good question. I thought there was a report they had been removed during the Turkish coup. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:20:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Iraqi Politican must be a special kinda of stupid. It’s all bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:20:44 PM EDT
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Is the Ford CSG in theater yet?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:21:01 PM EDT
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Multiple ISR assets above the area that maybe used as attacking area. CAP flying with bombs and missiles. Launch is detected and hopefully bombed with a few seconds ‘ minutes. A high stakes game of whack a asshole.
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: back when the mega blast rocked Beirut at the port side grain complex i saw a bit of a documentary with ex- zionist norman finklestien explain how hezbollah now has 150,000 modern rockets that isreal actually fears and only option would be to evacuate civilians to crete or cyprus if time was allowed. these new hezbollah rockets are nothing even close to what hamas typically uses and are an actual threat that the isreali govt doesnt have proper way to address. how many us carrier groups would be needed to eliminate 150,000 high grade rockets hezbollah now has all over southern lebanon? if fired all at once in say a few hours or whatever it takes what capabilities do us carrier groups really have at protecting them? are our capabilities even close to fighting that type of fight with carrier groups or no? Just one. I'm sure their is a nuke capable sub somewhere in the area. That solves the problem permanently. Now, I don't think that will actually ever happen. I don't think even the US has the ability to take out 150,000 rockets without many many re-arms. One carrier group isn't going to cut it. It sure as fuck is a serious amount of firepower, but a number of munitions that high spread out all over the places is impossible without nukes. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:21:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KingNine: Holy crap.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex3006: Exactly right. You only arm the Jews. Does anyone know if Israeli citizens who are Muslim are conscripted to serve in the IDF as most Jewish Israelis are? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex3006: Originally Posted By 18aBro72: Originally Posted By Piratepast40: Originally Posted By craig19: The fact they have the restrictions they have is mind blowing. One third of Israeli citizens are Muslim. I don't have a solution, nor am I voicing an opinion, just pointing out that it's a potential problem. And? Their country, Their rules. No muslim can be armed, All Jews can be armed. Seems pretty simple to me. Exactly right. You only arm the Jews. Does anyone know if Israeli citizens who are Muslim are conscripted to serve in the IDF as most Jewish Israelis are? Certain Jews are exempt and certain Gentiles are included in the Military Draft. I know the broad outlines of their policy but am not sure whom it applies to in each instance. Similar to when our draft is in effect, there are exemptions and alternate service options. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Good question. I thought there was a report they had been removed during the Turkish coup. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Piratepast40: Do we still have nukes stored at Incirlik? Good question. I thought there was a report they had been removed during the Turkish coup. IIRC, we got them out.....I think the Turks were angling to prevent us from removing them, but we took them |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: Genghis Khan was a genocidal rapist and warlord of extreme brutality. It is a travesty that his name is not brought up when Hitler's name is. I'm glad Israel isn't doing that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: People speak in absolutes like there is as actual victory. There is no wiping out Hamas. All Israel can do is impact their abilities for a large scale event like what happened. The tunnels, urban terrain, and multi national support create a network that will go on forever. As long as Iran can recruit people to kill Jews, there will always be a threat. That is fact. I saw this firsthand in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anything short of destroying every tunnel, clearing every house and killing every terrorist in a city of million people, then there is no wiping them out. Iran and Palestine have created a situation that can only be solved by nuclear weapons and the killing of thousands and thousands of innocent people. Measuring Against The Linchpin Itwas a method of determining which enemy civilians would be beheaded, used by the Mongols and other tribes that lived in the Mongolian plateau. Genghis Khan used this brutal method against Jamukha's coalition of tribes in 1202. All male captives were forced to walk beside a wagon wheel. If their heads were higher than the linchpin (a pin inserted at the end of the axle) they were immediately executed. The wagon wheel was a large wheel used to transport yurts and other goods. This technique was probably used to preempt against revenge attacks that were common between tribes at this time. If one tribe were to attack another, there was always the possibility that there would be a revenge attack soon after. By eliminating the older males, there was less chance of a counterattack from tribes that were in perpetual conflict due to centuries of distrust and robbery. Genghis Khan was a genocidal rapist and warlord of extreme brutality. It is a travesty that his name is not brought up when Hitler's name is. I'm glad Israel isn't doing that. Time heals all wounds. Do you think Frankfurt airport will be renamed Adolf International or there will be a chain of restaurants named Hitlers hotdogs in 700 years? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:24:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Do we still have nukes stored at Incirlik? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Originally Posted By macro: Not sure if already discussed, but now a Turkish official went on record saying that Netanyahu will die, and Erdogan is already questioning US support. Pretty illuminating to watch these nations pick sides. Very telling. Do we still have nukes stored at Incirlik? Can neither confirm nor deny. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SeanTX: Is the Ford CSG in theater yet? Yes |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:25:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:25:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: I always wondered why they left the cell towers standing. SIGINT |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:26:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:26:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Can neither confirm nor deny. Even if anybody here does know, we'll never know lol. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PetroAggie07: With the Hezbos opening up a second front in the North, at what point does Israel get less precise with their destruction of Gaza? If you're being attacked on multiple sides is it reasonable to continue to be surgical in your response? They may expand the target list but they should never give up precision. A bomb in the middle of an empty lot does nothing. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: There is a need for this to be recorded and shown to people. There are so many sheltered people who don’t know the true evil that exists in the world. However, the media is pretty much anti-Semitic and can’t be trusted to actual report on what is happening and not put their spin on it. I just personally have a hard time seeing it now, but it is a part of the world we live in. I don't have any issue with documenting, filming, etc., I figure at this point, I have no need to consume the images, as if my seeing it will in anyway influence what is occurring. I figure this is just the beginning of something a lot worse, and a lot of us might get to see similar events in person. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:29:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Just one. I'm sure their is a nuke capable sub somewhere in the area. That solves the problem permanently. Now, I don't think that will actually ever happen. I don't think even the US has the ability to take out 150,000 rockets without many many re-arms. One carrier group isn't going to cut it. It sure as fuck is a serious amount of firepower, but a number of munitions that high spread out all over the places is impossible without nukes. Missiles subs are never in the med or area. They have thousands of miles of range. But no one's going to be lobbing mirvs next door. The scale of this area of the world is tiny. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:30:13 PM EDT
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Watching videos it is becoming clear to me that individuals resisting with firearms could make a difference (some did).
Also not seeing much in the way of squad level skills from the attackers in any videos. Of course since they were mostly hunting down fleeing and often dispersed civilians, the approach of splitting up to find them makes sense but makes the terrorists open to counter attack. |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:30:36 PM EDT
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Confirmation the US Embassy in Beirut has NOT closed
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:31:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:31:40 PM EDT
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Translation: Launching flare bombs on the Lebanese-Israeli border
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Even if anybody here does know, we'll never know lol. I asked because I can't seem to find any current information. In the past, it's been public knowledge where we have nuclear weapons stored outside the U.S. The latest I can find is from May 2021 |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:06 PM EDT
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What is the lit up area on the Reuters feed? Hospital?
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whamo: Is that real or shopped? Disclaimer: I don't trust anything anymore. ETA: @LurchAddams The pic is real. When they called him out, he said he didn't know it was a pro-Palestine sign. https://theintercept.com/2018/08/07/cory-booker-israel-palestine/  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:35 PM EDT
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Definitely people on the internet trying to escalate things, a lot of them as well
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Confirmation the US Embassy in Beirut has NOT closed
Benghazi 2.0 in three, two, one... |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:43 PM EDT
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Northern Israel
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:34:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: well we have a big ass base there that we're using very soon if not already to support israel. so it's gonna get sporty up there too. You mean the base that has our nukes on it? |
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Posted: 10/11/2023 12:36:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Northern Israel https://collive.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/WhatsApp-Video-2023-10-11-at-3.53.10-AM.jpg |
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