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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: klinc]
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edit: messed up editing post.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:38 PM EDT
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hospital evac
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
That's going to ruffle some feathers everywhere. Oh well.... |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Putin Likens Israel's Gaza Actions To Nazi Leningrad Siege, Slams Settlers, China Cries "Injustice"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME607cX5HIULOL. This fuck’n guy. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:06:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeJGA: How many Christians that you know eat lobster, shrimp, scallops, crab, bacon, and/or pork chops? People always rationalize their way around prohibitions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeJGA: Originally Posted By nophun: Unless I'm not understanding, he says everything they did is forbidden by their religion. They did it anyway. How many Christians that you know eat lobster, shrimp, scallops, crab, bacon, and/or pork chops? People always rationalize their way around prohibitions. Tell me you haven't read Acts without telling me you haven't read Acts. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:07:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bedouin2W: FWIW, we're all supposedly gun people here so here is an Iranian AK. The biggest visual indicator that an AK is Iranian is the pistol grip. Brown, synthetic with a very distinctive shape. https://i.ibb.co/ZSXBHgJ/Screenshot-20231013-124025-Brave.jpg Notice no slant brake either, like Polytech or Norinco AKs. That gun is Chinese. Real Type 56 rifles do not have threaded barrels. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: 👍🏻 I’ll try to keep worthwhile relevant info posted and remember this is a gun forum not an international relations academic knitting circle Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By BoathousePainter: @CarmelBytheSea and @realwar Although I am new and my opinion may not matter….thank you for posting the content you find. Fuck be upon these assholes. 👍🏻 I’ll try to keep worthwhile relevant info posted and remember this is a gun forum not an international relations academic knitting circle Fuck relevancy. Use your own judgement. Its getting to the point where what YOU bring to this site is too important to lose. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:07:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TXBBQGuy:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Is there any map that shows where the drilling rigs are off the coast of Israel ? Marinetraffic.com usually has drilling installations[/quot e]Thank you |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
The L67KCD3inM0 live feed has a pane showing the evacuation. They are de-assing the area right quick. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:08:24 PM EDT
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https://t.me/IsraelWarLive/2560
Hamas publishes footage of its fighters keeping Israeli children as human shields. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: CivDiv (USMC vet who fought with the Kurds and the Ukrainians) uploaded avideo about war tunnels, going in depth about the construction of an underground base and tunnel complex from his time in the YPG. It details that tunnels are pretty difficult to beat, and, if this is what the Kurds could do in the middle of nowhere, I imagine that HAMAS has dug some absurdly elaborate networks under Gaza. In short, a tunnel doesn't mean "shitty hallway under the ground." A motivated force can create surprisingly elaborate and developed bases underground, including electricity, remote weapons, running water, drainage and plumbing, etc. The combination of intelligent defensive design, the maze-like tunnels and the knowledge of their layout and hidden exits means that tunnel networks are an extremely formidable target, nigh impossible to clear by infantry. He does mention that the tunnels he was in were resistant to bunker busters due to being deep under a mountain, which is something HAMAS might not have the luxury of, but it does demonstrate that even heavy explosives aren't necessarily a solution. To go over the common measures people propose: . His tunnels had various camouflaged ventilation shafts to provide oxygen and protect against gas attacks. Soldiers were also equipped with personal oxygen and gas masks, with more being placed in shelters. . The drainage systems are an effective countermeasure for flooding attacks; it would take extremely large amounts of water to completely flood a tunnel. . There are countless hidden exits to the surface, which means besieging a tunnel is almost impossible. There are also large stocks of supplies stored within the tunnels themselves. . The tight spaces and defensive design of the complexes make them pretty much impossible to assault with infantry. . The depths of tunnels add pretty good resistance to bunker busters. Everytime you see an entrance, exit, air shaft or utility tunnel seal it with reinforced concrete. Leave a line in and pump vx gas into it, then seal the line. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:09:25 PM EDT
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The Israeli Air Force strikes Hamas targets on Oct. 13.
 The Israeli Air Force strikes Hamas targets on Oct. 13. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: That gun is Chinese. Real Type 56 rifles do not have threaded barrels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: Originally Posted By Bedouin2W: FWIW, we're all supposedly gun people here so here is an Iranian AK. The biggest visual indicator that an AK is Iranian is the pistol grip. Brown, synthetic with a very distinctive shape. https://i.ibb.co/ZSXBHgJ/Screenshot-20231013-124025-Brave.jpg Notice no slant brake either, like Polytech or Norinco AKs. That gun is Chinese. Real Type 56 rifles do not have threaded barrels. That gun is Iranian, not Chinese. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: The L67KCD3inM0 live feed has a pane showing the evacuation. They are de-assing the area right quick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
The L67KCD3inM0 live feed has a pane showing the evacuation. They are de-assing the area right quick. link? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Going to take a lot longer than that to move all the military supplies. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woozman: link? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woozman: Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
The L67KCD3inM0 live feed has a pane showing the evacuation. They are de-assing the area right quick. link?  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: hospital evac https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433230/hoppsittalevac-2989939.png Maybe they have gotten the memo that this isn’t play time anymore. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreeAmerican: I have been saying since before the 2016 election, that our k-12 and especially our higher education is a defacto reeducation camps against America. I watched last night and this morning live interviews with young white females, young white kids that are spouting pro Hams crap!?!?! UVA, right here in my state at the foot of the Blueridge Mts spouting that crap! Our education system needs a huge enema Charlie Kirk today talking about the very thing |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woozman: link? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woozman: Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
The L67KCD3inM0 live feed has a pane showing the evacuation. They are de-assing the area right quick. link?  Live Webcams From Gaza | Conflict Zone ? | Palestine Israel Gaza Strip |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2023/10/al-qaedas-north-and-west-african-branches-respond-to-the-hamas-led-invasion-of-israel.php https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5761_jpeg-2989934.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_5762_jpeg-2989935.JPG So everyone acknowledges that the Palestinian populous at large as well as Muslims are all potential warriors. Thanks for the clarification, al Quaeda. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: That's going to ruffle some feathers everywhere. Oh well.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
That's going to ruffle some feathers everywhere. Oh well.... Everyone knew it was a Hospital/Hamas Command Hdqs. People just used different elevators. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MIR: Take care of Iran now before it is too late, a nuclear armed Iran isnt going to be good for anyone...........!!!! We have a choice to make, deal with them now with casualties or deal with them later and suffer epic proportions of casualties later....... If Iran gets a bomb, you can 100% assure yourself they will use it....!!! We are at a crossroad.....and we have the poorest leadership in the WH in our nations history....... That is where we are at. They've been running their mouth and acting out lately, do we know with any certainty that they haven't achieved a nuke yet? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Jewish NYC councilwoman Inna Vernikov is arrested for wearing a gun on her waist while opposing pro-Palestine rally at Brooklyn College https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/13/16/76528105-12628037-image-m-115_1697212522167.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/13/16/76527475-12628037-image-a-95_1697211530387.jpg 'I'm here at the pro-Hamas rally in Brooklyn college. There is a ton of police and we made sure the Jewish students feel safe today,' she said A New York City councilwoman has been arrested after she wore a gun on her waist while opposing a pro-Palestine rally at CUNY’s Brooklyn College. Republican Brooklyn councilwoman Inna Vernikov, who is Jewish, turned herself in to the NYPD early on Friday after her appearance at the school's Flatbush campus, where hundreds gathered to support Palestine after Hamas' attack left over 1,000 Israelis dead. Officials reportedly contacted her to inform her she was being charged with criminal possession of a weapon, The New York Post reported. Vernikov, 39, was released with a desk appearance ticket and ordered to surrender her gun, a Smith & Wesson 9 millimeter, as well as her concealed carry license, which she just obtained last month. While she had a license, it is a Class E felony to bring a gun to a protest or school grounds, which are deemed 'sensitive locations.' Continued Hopefully, a fast track to SCOTUS and a resultant smack down to NYC. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:15:26 PM EDT
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"BREAKING: Hamas publishes footages showing its fighters keeping Israeli children as human shields in Gaza.
One child was forced to say antisemitic words to be allowed to drink water." https://t.me/hnaftali/6199 Sorry, but I have a hard time feeling for anyone living in Gaza. They live among these people and have allowed this sort of thing to take place. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:15:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: No boots. F22, F35, B2, B21, etc. Destroy all Military infrastructure. All. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By Solace22: honest question on a scale of 1-10 how big of a deal is war with Iran? 1 being desert storm level push over, 10 being complete nuclear war across the globe, end of civilization likely. 6. We would destroy them conventionally while also taking losses, then the political leaders would fuck it all up with endless mission creep and no clearly defined end states. See: Iraq. No boots. F22, F35, B2, B21, etc. Destroy all Military infrastructure. All. and missiles. lots of missiles. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:15:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By veritas8985: The story of my dating life. 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:15:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: We're not the same military we were in the Gulf War. We'd win, but it wouldn't be the ass stomping we gave the Iraqis. On top of that with the current political and upper military leadership we have the ROE would be fucking absurd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By llanero: Iraq and Iran fought a stalemated war for ten years. We fought Iraq for 100 hours and it was epically lopsided. I don't think Iran is going to be a problem if we do go conventional with them. We're not the same military we were in the Gulf War. We'd win, but it wouldn't be the ass stomping we gave the Iraqis. On top of that with the current political and upper military leadership we have the ROE would be fucking absurd. President Whiskers, what's the ROE for this war? "Warcrime buffet." What's that sir? "All you care to commit." |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:16:09 PM EDT
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John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed?
 John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: hospital evac https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433230/hoppsittalevac-2989939.png Where in Gaza is that hospital? I can't seem to find it on Maps. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:17:52 PM EDT
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Posted ~15 mins ago |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Where in Gaza is that hospital? I can't seem to find it on Maps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By RoccoOnFire: hospital evac https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433230/hoppsittalevac-2989939.png Where in Gaza is that hospital? I can't seem to find it on Maps. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y8Vj3YUBs1mqDfPP8 |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:18:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thUSMC: Man, look at those beach front properties that could have been built for tourism but no, those religious illiterates turned it into a ghetto shithole and is determined to keep it as such. Demolish it it all and start over under Israeli control and there will be a big difference. You’re thinking like me. Namibia has been developing beachfront for international surfers. I know surfing is meh in that area but - scuba, fishing most tourists aren’t surfers like me. Morocco even developed beach front surfing https://www.surfer.com/features/planning-morocco-surf-trip |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: 👍🏻 I’ll try to keep worthwhile relevant info posted and remember this is a gun forum not an international relations academic knitting circle Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By BoathousePainter: @CarmelBytheSea and @realwar Although I am new and my opinion may not matter….thank you for posting the content you find. Fuck be upon these assholes. 👍🏻 I’ll try to keep worthwhile relevant info posted and remember this is a gun forum not an international relations academic knitting circle While true it is a gun forum, it also evolved into a meeting place for like-minded American patriots.... and some of us come here to read the opinions of those who know what they're talking about (as in "been there, done that"). Unfortunately, a lot of good people have been run off over the past 10 years or so, and this web site has been lessened because of it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and thoughts with us, and please continue to do so. 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Being a transmitter, starlink is very easy to target, especially when your drones rule the air. I would bet money that idf knows exactly who is using any given Starlink set and can figure out who isn't a bad guy. if you're not a bad guy and you let the Israelis know where and what you are I think a Starlink set would be unmolested. if they think you're a bad guy, better have long cables and lots of spare dishes. and even if you let them know who and where you are, you might collect some ammo the hard way. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: I imagine China sold off some old Type-56 tooling to Iran and the Iranians are making exact copies now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By Bedouin2W: Originally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By Bedouin2W: FWIW, we're all supposedly gun people here so here is an Iranian AK. The biggest visual indicator that an AK is Iranian is the pistol grip. Brown, synthetic with a very distinctive shape. https://i.ibb.co/ZSXBHgJ/Screenshot-20231013-124025-Brave.jpg Notice no slant brake either, like Polytech or Norinco AKs. -fully hooded front sight -Chinese style synthetic handguard -type 3 style gas block/gas tube/bayo lug -Chinese 56-2 side-folding stock -rivet pattern is Chinese Pretty much. The whole thing is a Chinese knockoff (to include the grip and the folding buttstock). You used to be able to source the furniture. 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:21:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Pretty much. The whole thing is a Chinese knockoff (to include the grip and the folding buttstock). You used to be able to source the furniture. https://i.imgur.com/9BSe3nx.jpg 👍🏻 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvl19wQjK8A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ascendent: A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ascendent: Originally Posted By realwar: John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvl19wQjK8A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. The US is afraid of Iran. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8VAza1XIAAapUx?format=jpg&name=large  The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian (Official Video) |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K9-Bob: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54857/Screenshot_2023-10-13_003136_png-2989291.JPG That part of the world is sick...the only surefire cure is some canned sunshine. 
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:25:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: edit: messed up editing post.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:25:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ascendent]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The US is afraid of Iran. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Originally Posted By Ascendent: Originally Posted By realwar: John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvl19wQjK8A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. The US is afraid of Iran. This is the only conclusion I can come to as well. Oh well, everyone will continue to feel the pain. Bye Bye Israel. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The US is afraid of |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:27:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Where in Gaza is that hospital? I can't seem to find it on Maps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By RoccoOnFire: hospital evac https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433230/hoppsittalevac-2989939.png Where in Gaza is that hospital? I can't seem to find it on Maps. Try searching "Hamas largest weapons cache" Kharn |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plainsman62: Those foods aren't prohibited for Christians. Acts 10: 9-16 Peter's vision in Acts 10 has absolutely nothing to do with food. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plainsman62: Those foods aren't prohibited for Christians. Acts 10: 9-16 |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: The US is afraid of Iran. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Originally Posted By Ascendent: Originally Posted By realwar: John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvl19wQjK8A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. The US is afraid of Iran. Does anyone seriously think we have the resources in place, right now, to attack Iran? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Jewish NYC councilwoman Inna Vernikov is arrested for wearing a gun on her waist while opposing pro-Palestine rally at Brooklyn College https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/13/16/76528105-12628037-image-m-115_1697212522167.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/13/16/76527475-12628037-image-a-95_1697211530387.jpg 'I'm here at the pro-Hamas rally in Brooklyn college. There is a ton of police and we made sure the Jewish students feel safe today,' she said A New York City councilwoman has been arrested after she wore a gun on her waist while opposing a pro-Palestine rally at CUNY’s Brooklyn College. Republican Brooklyn councilwoman Inna Vernikov, who is Jewish, turned herself in to the NYPD early on Friday after her appearance at the school's Flatbush campus, where hundreds gathered to support Palestine after Hamas' attack left over 1,000 Israelis dead. Officials reportedly contacted her to inform her she was being charged with criminal possession of a weapon, The New York Post reported. Vernikov, 39, was released with a desk appearance ticket and ordered to surrender her gun, a Smith & Wesson 9 millimeter, as well as her concealed carry license, which she just obtained last month. While she had a license, it is a Class E felony to bring a gun to a protest or school grounds, which are deemed 'sensitive locations.' Continued here's the next FPC/GOA ussc case. let's hope it moves fast enough to be useful to me traveling to nyc. or it could take a decade and never really get resolved. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: 'It would be nice to have military bases in Afghanistan to contain Iran' - Condoleezza Rice https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/13/condoleezza-rice-it-would-be-nice-if-we-had-afghanistan-bases-to-deter-iran-right-now/ Plan was to contain from Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 2:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Does anyone seriously think we have the resources in place, right now, to attack Iran? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Originally Posted By Ascendent: Originally Posted By realwar: John Kirby Asked: Why Aren't US Forces Attacking Hamas After 27 Americans Killed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvl19wQjK8A better question is "Why aren't we retaliating against IRAN?" Iran is the source of all of this death in the last 20 years. Why not decapitate the head of the snake. The US is afraid of Iran. Does anyone seriously think we have the resources in place, right now, to attack Iran? After 50 years of them fucking with us, why not? And yes, we do. We have ICBMs. It is pointless to use them as a deterrence if they hold no deterrence authority. And Iran knows this full well. They are counting on it. |
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