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Originally Posted By realwar: Biden 'is offering Israel top secret intelligence detailing exact locations of Hamas leaders and their hidden tunnels in bid to stave off full-scale invasion of Rafah' Biden administration officials are said to be offering Israel exact locations of Hamas leaders in a bid to stop the IDF invading the Gazan city of Rafah. The president has reportedly offered highly-classified information that also includes the locations of Hamas' secret tunnels to try and stave-off what he fears could be a humanitarian catastrophe. The detailed and sensitive talks serve to illustrate the stakes facing Israel and the U.S. Rafah is the last city in Gaza that has not been bombed by Israel. According to the Washington Post, the U.S. is also proposing to assist in the construction of thousands of shelters to create tent cities and help with the setting up of delivery systems for vital supplies like food, water, and medicine. Continued View Quote Talk about being an Asshole of an ally. US Has information that could bring the war to an end, but won't sell precision guidance bombs and other weapons if they use that information. US needs to share the info to help shorten the war and resume selling the weapons so they don't resort to using 5 2000 lb bombs when a single SDB or switchblade hellfire would do the job. Why would the US withhold information like that? To have leverage over controlling the war? It won't change the outcome, Israel isn't going to let them walk away without being ripped up as much as possible. The US is wanting something like stopping 10 yards short of a goal and declaring it a win (the same way the US has done with all wars since WW II). |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
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Originally Posted By brass: Talk about being an Asshole of an ally. US Has information that could bring the war to an end, but won't sell precision guidance bombs and other weapons if they use that information. US needs to share the info to help shorten the war and resume selling the weapons so they don't resort to using 5 2000 lb bombs when a single SDB or switchblade hellfire would do the job. Why would the US withhold information like that? To have leverage over controlling the war? It won't change the outcome, Israel isn't going to let them walk away without being ripped up as much as possible. The US is wanting something like stopping 10 yards short of a goal and declaring it a win (the same way the US has done with all wars). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Talk about being an Asshole of an ally. US Has information that could bring the war to an end, but won't sell precision guidance bombs and other weapons if they use that information. US needs to share the info to help shorten the war and resume selling the weapons so they don't resort to using 5 2000 lb bombs when a single SDB or switchblade hellfire would do the job. Why would the US withhold information like that? To have leverage over controlling the war? It won't change the outcome, Israel isn't going to let them walk away without being ripped up as much as possible. The US is wanting something like stopping 10 yards short of a goal and declaring it a win (the same way the US has done with all wars). Even worse when you consider there are still 5 presumably live kidnap victims who are US citizens in Hamas' control, on top of those who were imprisoned against their will last fall but then released and those murdered on 7 Oct. Why would the US withhold information like that? Because they are completely inept and have no clue what they are doing. Politically, diplomatically, militarily, economically and any other -ly you care to name. Right now, they just want the war to stop in a vain attempt to regain votes in Michigan, Illinois, and other states with Middle Eastern voters. The problem is their lying and pandering to Arab/Muslim voters seems to have angered them more than if Biden had simply stood up for supporting Israel. Ironically, it was his and Kamala's foolish statements that screwed up a potential exchange in March. Both sides were close to a temporary deal; Biden seems to have learned of it and decided to make it look like his team was key to getting it done. He and Kamala both made speeches essentialy demanding Israel make peace, at which point Hamas figured the US will pressure Israel to agree to any deal, so they hardened their bargaining positions and demanded more concessions. They're doing it again in Rafah. They keep telling the whole world Israel can't "slam into Radah" without losing US support. Hamas now knows any serious attack on Rafah will hurt Israel's standing with the US, so they are putting more fighters in civilan areas and launching rockets from "safe zones" in the hope Israel responds and kills more kids. The US blames Israel for starving civilians, even those who are under Hamas' control and whose well being is Hamas' responsibility. Hamas then decides to use rockets and mortars to attack a major crossing for getting supplies into southern Gaza. Four IDF troops die, Israel comes under condemnation for closing the crossing, and Sinwar and Haniyeh get to screech about famine in Gaza. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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Kill Hamas. Kill ALL Hamas.
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More LIBERTY less Government
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Institute for Study of War Backgrounder 12 May Key Takeaways Gaza Strip Israeli ground forces advanced into Jabalia in the northern Gaza Strip. The 98th Division launched a re-clearing operation in Jabalia after Hamas and Palestinian militias began trying to rebuild infrastructure in the area. The Air Force conducted about 30 airstrikes overnight. Israeli forces are currently operating east of Jabalia refugee camp. The IDF issued evacuation orders for civilians in Jabalia on May 11. Hamas fighters used a drone to drop an explosive onto an Israeli tank in eastern Jabalia. The IDF launched a re-clearing operation into the Zaytoun neighborhood on May 8, marking the third time that the IDF has conducted a clearing operation there. Palestinian fighters attacked Israeli forces with mortar fire and RPGs in Zaytoun and along the Netzarim corridor on May 12. Palestinian militias wounded the Israeli Defense Ministry deputy comptroller in Zaytoun on May 10. The comptroller, a brigadier general, is the highest ranking IDF officer wounded in the Gaza Strip during this war. Israeli forces continued a "precise operation" targeting Hamas in eastern. The IDF Givati Brigade located and destroyed several tunnel shafts and rockets ready to fire into Israel. IDF 401st Brigade identified and called in an air strike on ten armed Hamas fighters. The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) reported on May 12 that about 300,000 people have fled Rafah in the past week. Israel opened a new border crossing in the northern Gaza Strip on May 12 to increase the flow of aid into the northern Strip. Palestinian militias conducted four indirect fire attack from the Gaza on May 12. Three Hamas rocket attacks targeted Ashkelon and Sderot. One rocket landed in Ashkelon causing damage and injuring three people. The IDF air defenses intercepted two munitions launched from Rafah at Kerem Shalom. Palestinian militias have conducted near daily indirect fire attacks on the Kerem Shalom area since May 5. The IDF said militant attacks on the Kerem Shalom, the main entry point for humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip, are designed to close the crossing. West Bank Israeli forces have engaged Palestinian fighters in at least three locations in the West Bank. Israeli Army Radio reported that unspecified people set fire to a home in a Palestinian village and wrote “Regards from Binyamin” on the walls. Southern Lebanon and Golan Heights Iranian-backed militias, including Lebanese Hezbollah, have conducted at least five attacks from southern Lebanon into northern Israel. Hezbollah conducted a drone attack on an Iron Dome platform in Beit Hillel, then launched a second attack against the same platform when they thought Israeli officers would be at the scene evaluating the first attack. The IDF confirmed that two drones fell in the Beit Hillel area without causing casualties. Yemen US Central Command (CENTCOM) reported that a coalition aircraft intercepted a Houthi drone over the Gulf of Aden on 10 May and three Houthi drones over the Red Sea on May 11. View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
This is a valid opportunity for Israel to expand territory legally. Any nation attacks come from lose territory if conquered.
Harsh, but fair. |
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What we lost in the fire, we found in the ashes.
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Israeli fighter jets struck two Hezbollah rocket launch positions in southern Lebanon's Halta and Kafarhamam in the last few hours, the military says. Two more sites belonging to the terror group were hit in the Kherbe area, the IDF adds. The strikes come after Hezbollah launched several rockets, missiles, and drones at northern Israel today. No injuries were caused in the attacks. View Quote
The Israeli military and Defense Ministry's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) announce that a new crossing with the northern Gaza Strip has been opened for humanitarian aid deliveries. The so-called Western Erez Crossing is located in the Zikim area, on the coast. The crossing was built by the Defense Ministry's engineering department, the ministry's crossings authority, and IDF engineering units. The IDF says the crossing was opened "as part of the effort to increase aid routes to the Gaza Strip, and to the northern Gaza Strip in particular." It says that dozens of trucks ferrying flour from the World Food Program were delivered from Ashdod Port to the Gaza Strip via the new crossing, after "undergoing security checks." View Quote
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
According to the ISW backgrounder on Gaza, the al-Qassam brigades used a drone to drop a grenade on an Israeli tank. I can't get the videos from their Telegram to play, but maybe one of you can.
https://t.me/qassam1brigades/2043 https://t.me/qassam1brigades/2053 Senior member of DFLP killed in Gaza link. A senior member of the small Palestinian terror group Democratic Front has been killed in an Israeli airstrike in the Sabra neighborhood of Gaza City, according to Palestinian and Arab media. The reports identify the targeted man as Talal Abu Zarifa, a member of the organization’s political bureau View Quote Good summary of DFLP in article from the Counter-Terrorism Center at West Point. You will have to scroll down to find it. Link to CTC. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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Originally Posted By Ascendent: This is a valid opportunity for Israel to expand territory legally. Any nation attacks come from lose territory if conquered. Harsh, but fair. View Quote Trouble is, they'd have to take the population as well. Forced permanent displacement is considered a war crime. And, of course Israel will be held to the highest standards by the kangaroo courts worldwide. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Jack Keane: It is petty, shocking that the Biden administration would hold back weapons for Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4ya3R_Os0 Blinken says U.S. won't back Rafah incursion without "credible plan" to protect civilians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjRDD4J9Pag View Quote Withholding intel from allies is an extremely bad idea. |
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Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle we humbly pray.
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Link to liveblog articles below
Israeli forces step up attacks on Gaza's Jabaliya camp and Rafah Israeli tanks, under cover of heavy fire from air and ground, pushed further into Jabalya in the northern Gaza Strip on Monday, residents and Hamas media said, while tanks and troops crossed a key highway on the outskirts of Rafah in the south. In Jabalya, tanks were trying to advance towards the heart of the camp, the biggest of Gaza's eight historic refugee camps. Residents said tank shells were landing at the center of the camp and that air strikes had destroyed clusters of houses. Residents and medics said several people were killed and wounded in a series of air strikes on the camp overnight. Medics said they have been unable to send teams to some of the bombed areas because of the intensity of the Israeli bombardment, but they have reports of fatalities. View Quote IDF: Two drones exploded in northern Israel; no casualties reported The IDF reported that two drones launched from Lebanon entered into Israel a few hours ago and exploded in the Beit Hillel area, in northern Israel. A fire broke out, which was extinguished shortly after, and there were no casualties. The army said the incident is being investigated. View Quote NYT: Sinwar is not hiding out in Rafah, likely never left Khan Yunis tunnels According to a report by the New York Times, Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar is not hiding out in the southern city of Rafah, and most likely never left the tunnel network under Khan Yunis in the Strip's north, this according to American officials who quote Israel's and the U.S.'s spy agencies. This intelligence could invalidate the Israeli justifications for a major military ground operation in Rafah. ( No, it most certainly doesn't. This is a war to destroy an armed, hybrid organization able dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Killing one or one thousand leaders accomplishes little if not accompanied by the destruction of systems and hardware needed to fight. In the case of Gaza, that means tunnels). View Quote
At approximately 3:30 a.m.(Sanaa time) on May 12, U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM) forces successfully destroyed one uncrewed aerial system (UAS) launched by Iranian-backed Houthis over the Gulf of Aden from Houthi controlled areas in Yemen. There were no injuries or damages reported by U.S., coalition, or merchant vessels. View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Link to NYT biographical piece on Sinwar. Entire article in spoiler below.
Highpoints As Israeli officials seek his killing, they have been forced to negotiate with him, albeit indirectly, to free the remaining hostages. Mr. Sinwar has emerged not only as a strong-willed commander but as a shrewd negotiator who has staved off an Israeli battlefield victory while engaging Israeli envoys at the negotiating table. it is Mr. Sinwar — believed to be hiding in a tunnel network beneath Gaza — whose consent is required by Hamas’s negotiators before they agree to any concessions. Though Mr. Sinwar does not technically have authority over the entire Hamas movement, his leadership role in Gaza and his forceful personality have given him outsize importance in how Hamas operates, according to allies and foes alike. “There’s no decision that can be made without consulting Sinwar,” said Salah al-Din al-Awawdeh, a Hamas member and political analyst who befriended Mr. Sinwar while they were both jailed in Israel during the 1990s and 2000s. “Sinwar isn’t an ordinary leader, he’s a powerful person and an architect of events. He’s not some sort of manager or director, he’s a leader,” Mr. al-Awawdeh added. Waiting for Mr. Sinwar’s approval has often slowed the negotiations, according to officials and analysts. Israeli strikes have damaged much of Gaza’s communications infrastructure, and it has sometimes taken a day to get a message to Mr. Sinwar and a day to receive a response. Sinwar...emerged as both a brutal adversary and a deft political operator, capable of analyzing Israeli society and appearing to adapt his policies accordingly. As an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks, Mr. Sinwar masterminded a strategy that he knew would provoke a ferocious Israeli response. But in Hamas’s calculus, the deaths...ofcivilians ...were the necessary cost of upending the status quo with Israel. Analysts...believe that Mr. Sinwar is primarily motivated by a desire to take revenge on Israel and weaken it. The well-being of the Palestinian people or the establishment of a Palestinian state, the intelligence analysts say, appears to be secondary. Sinwar joined Hamas in the 1980s. He was later imprisoned for murdering Palestinians whom he accused of apostasy or collaborating with Israel. Sinwar spent more than two decades in Israeli detention before being released in 2011, along with more than 1,000 other Palestinians, in exchange for one Israeli soldier. Sinwar learned Hebrew and developed an understanding of Israeli culture and society, according to fellow former inmates and Israeli officials who monitored him in prison. Mr. Sinwar now appears to be using that knowledge to sow divisions in Israeli society Sinwar’s strategy is to keep the war going for as long as it takes to shred Israel’s international reputation and to damage its relationship with its primary ally, the United States. As Israel faced intense pressure to avoid launching an operation in Rafah, Hamas fired rockets last Sunday from Rafah toward a nearby border crossing, killing four Israeli soldiers. U.S. officials say Mr. Sinwar is most likely in the tunnels under Khan Younis, the next major city to the north — intelligence that could undercut the Israeli rationale for the military operations in Rafah.(BS--Rafah needs fixing with or without Sinwar's death.) View Quote Entire article inside spoiler Click To View Spoiler Yahya Sinwar Helped Start the War in Gaza. Now He’s Key to Its Endgame.
Hamas’s leader in Gaza is considered an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks that prompted Israel to retaliate. As mediators seek a cease-fire, a deal depends on Mr. Sinwar as well as his Israeli foes. After Hamas attacked Israel in October, igniting the war in Gaza, Israeli leaders described the group’s most senior official in the territory, Yahya Sinwar, as a “dead man walking.” Considering him an architect of the raid, Israel has portrayed Mr. Sinwar’s assassination as a major goal of its devastating counterattack. Seven months later, Mr. Sinwar’s survival is emblematic of the failures of Israel’s war, which has ravaged much of Gaza but left Hamas’s top leadership largely intact and failed to free most of the captives taken during the October attack. Even as Israeli officials seek his killing, they have been forced to negotiate with him, albeit indirectly, to free the remaining hostages. Mr. Sinwar has emerged not only as a strong-willed commander but as a shrewd negotiator who has staved off an Israeli battlefield victory while engaging Israeli envoys at the negotiating table, according to officials from Hamas, Israel and the United States. Some spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence assessments of Mr. Sinwar and diplomatic negotiations. While the talks are mediated in Egypt and Qatar, it is Mr. Sinwar — believed to be hiding in a tunnel network beneath Gaza — whose consent is required by Hamas’s negotiators before they agree to any concessions, according to some of those officials. Hamas officials insist that Mr. Sinwar does not have the final say in the group’s decisions. But though Mr. Sinwar does not technically have authority over the entire Hamas movement, his leadership role in Gaza and his forceful personality have given him outsize importance in how Hamas operates, according to allies and foes alike. “There’s no decision that can be made without consulting Sinwar,” said Salah al-Din al-Awawdeh, a Hamas member and political analyst who befriended Mr. Sinwar while they were both jailed in Israel during the 1990s and 2000s. “Sinwar isn’t an ordinary leader, he’s a powerful person and an architect of events. He’s not some sort of manager or director, he’s a leader,” Mr. al-Awawdeh added. Mr. Sinwar has rarely been heard from since the start of the war, unlike Hamas officials based outside Gaza, including Ismail Haniyeh, the movement’s most senior civilian official. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas’s behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. Waiting for Mr. Sinwar’s approval has often slowed the negotiations, according to officials and analysts. Israeli strikes have damaged much of Gaza’s communications infrastructure, and it has sometimes taken a day to get a message to Mr. Sinwar and a day to receive a response, according to U.S. officials and Hamas members. For Israeli and Western officials, Mr. Sinwar has over the course of these negotiations, which stalled again in Cairo this past week, emerged as both a brutal adversary and a deft political operator, capable of analyzing Israeli society and appearing to adapt his policies accordingly. As an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks, Mr. Sinwar masterminded a strategy that he knew would provoke a ferocious Israeli response. But in Hamas’s calculus, the deaths of many Palestinian civilians — who do not have access to Hamas’s subterranean tunnels — were the necessary cost of upending the status quo with Israel. American and Israeli intelligence agencies have spent months assessing Mr. Sinwar’s motivations, according to people briefed on the intelligence. Analysts in both the United States and Israel believe that Mr. Sinwar is primarily motivated by a desire to take revenge on Israel and weaken it. The well-being of the Palestinian people or the establishment of a Palestinian state, the intelligence analysts say, appears to be secondary. An Understanding of Israeli Society Mr. Sinwar was born in Gaza in 1962 to a family that had fled its home, along with several hundred thousand other Palestinian Arabs who fled or were forced to flee during the wars surrounding the creation of the state of Israel. Mr. Sinwar joined Hamas in the 1980s. He was later imprisoned for murdering Palestinians whom he accused of apostasy or collaborating with Israel, according to Israeli court records from 1989. Mr. Sinwar spent more than two decades in Israeli detention before being released in 2011, along with more than 1,000 other Palestinians, in exchange for one Israeli soldier captured by Hamas. Six years later, Mr. Sinwar was elected leader of Hamas in Gaza. Ismail Haniyeh, left, one of the most senior leaders of Hamas, and Mr. Sinwar in Gaza City in 2017. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas’s behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. While in prison, Mr. Sinwar learned Hebrew and developed an understanding of Israeli culture and society, according to fellow former inmates and Israeli officials who monitored him in prison. Mr. Sinwar now appears to be using that knowledge to sow divisions in Israeli society and heighten pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, according to Israeli and U.S. officials. They believe that Mr. Sinwar has timed the release of videos of some Israeli hostages in order to spur public outrage at Mr. Netanyahu during crucial phases of the cease-fire talks. Some Israelis want the remaining hostages released even if it means agreeing to Hamas’s demands for a permanent truce that would keep the group — and Mr. Sinwar — in power. But Mr. Netanyahu has been reluctant to agree to end the war, partly because of pressure from some of his right-wing allies, who have threatened to resign if the war concludes with Hamas unbroken. If Mr. Netanyahu has been accused of dragging out the fighting for personal benefit, so, too, has his archenemy, Mr. Sinwar. Israeli and U.S. intelligence officers say that Mr. Sinwar’s strategy is to keep the war going for as long as it takes to shred Israel’s international reputation and to damage its relationship with its primary ally, the United States. As Israel faced intense pressure to avoid launching an operation in Rafah, Hamas fired rockets last Sunday from Rafah toward a nearby border crossing, killing four Israeli soldiers. If this was a gambit by Hamas, it appeared to pay off: Israel began an operation this past week on the fringes of Rafah, and against that backdrop President Biden made his strongest criticism of Israeli policy since the war began. Mr. Biden said he would halt some future arms shipments if the Israeli military began a full-scale invasion of the city’s urban core. U.S. officials say Mr. Sinwar is most likely in the tunnels under Khan Younis, the next major city to the north — intelligence that could undercut the Israeli rationale for the military operations in Rafah. Projecting an Image of Unity Hamas and its allies deny that either Mr. Sinwar or the movement is trying to leverage further Palestinian suffering. “Hamas’s strategy is to stop the war right now,” said Ahmed Yousef, a Hamas veteran based in Rafah. “To stop the genocide and the killing of the Palestinian people.” U.S. officials say that Mr. Sinwar has shown disdain for his colleagues outside Gaza, who were not informed about the precise plans for Hamas’s attack on Oct. 7. American officials also believe that Mr. Sinwar approves military operations conducted by Hamas, though Israeli intelligence officers say they are unsure of the extent of his involvement. A senior Western official familiar with the cease-fire negotiations believes that Mr. Sinwar appears to make decisions in concert with his brother, Muhammad, a senior Hamas military leader, and that throughout the war he had sometimes disagreed with Hamas leaders outside Gaza. While the outside leadership has at times been more willing to compromise, Mr. Sinwar is less ready to concede ground to the Israeli negotiators, in part, because he knows that he is likely to be killed whether or not the war ends, the official said. Even if negotiators seal a cease-fire deal, Israel is likely to pursue Mr. Sinwar for the rest of his life, the official said. Hamas members have projected an image of unity, downplaying Mr. Sinwar’s personal role in decision-making and maintaining that Hamas’s elected leadership collectively determines the movement’s trajectory. Some say that if Mr. Sinwar has played a bigger role during this war, it is mostly because of his position: As the leader of Hamas in Gaza, Mr. Sinwar has greater say, though not the final call, according to Mousa Abu Marzouk, a senior Hamas official based in Qatar. “Sinwar’s opinion is very important because he’s on the ground and he’s leading the movement on the inside,” said Mr. Abu Marzouk, the first leader of Hamas’s political office in the 1990s. But Mr. Haniyeh has the “final say” on key decisions, Mr. Abu Marzouk said, adding that all of Hamas’s political leaders were of “one opinion.” Mr. Haniyeh could not immediately be reached for comment. Still, there is something unusual about Mr. Sinwar’s force of personality, according to Mr. al-Awawdeh, his friend from prison. Other leaders might not have instigated the Oct. 7 attack, preferring to focus on technocratic matters of governance, Mr. al-Awawdeh said. “If someone else had been in his position, things might have gone in a calmer way,” he said. Mr. Sinwar himself could not be reached for comment and has rarely been heard from since October. U.S. and Israeli officials have said Mr. Sinwar is hiding near hostages, using them as human shields. An Israeli hostage who was released during a truce in November said she met Mr. Sinwar during her captivity. In February, the Israeli military published a video that it said soldiers had taken from a security camera they found in a Hamas tunnel beneath Gaza. The video showed a man hurrying down the tunnel, accompanied by a woman and children. The military said the man was Mr. Sinwar, fleeing with his family. The claim was impossible to verify: The man’s face was turned away from the camera. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Iran state news https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/05/13/725494/Iran-IRGC-fearless-attack-global-arrogance https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_4064_jpeg-3213156.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_4063_jpeg-3213157.JPG View Quote Excellent info. And people continue to insist that Iran has "plausible deniability" when it comes to their proxy BS. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By michigan66: Link to NYT biographical piece on Sinwar. Entire article in spoiler below. Highpoints https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/05/12/multimedia/12israel-gaza-sinwar-01-fkvm/12israel-gaza-sinwar-01-fkvm-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp Entire article inside spoiler Click To View Spoiler Yahya Sinwar Helped Start the War in Gaza. Now He's Key to Its Endgame. Hamas's leader in Gaza is considered an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks that prompted Israel to retaliate. As mediators seek a cease-fire, a deal depends on Mr. Sinwar as well as his Israeli foes. After Hamas attacked Israel in October, igniting the war in Gaza, Israeli leaders described the group's most senior official in the territory, Yahya Sinwar, as a "dead man walking." Considering him an architect of the raid, Israel has portrayed Mr. Sinwar's assassination as a major goal of its devastating counterattack. Seven months later, Mr. Sinwar's survival is emblematic of the failures of Israel's war, which has ravaged much of Gaza but left Hamas's top leadership largely intact and failed to free most of the captives taken during the October attack. Even as Israeli officials seek his killing, they have been forced to negotiate with him, albeit indirectly, to free the remaining hostages. Mr. Sinwar has emerged not only as a strong-willed commander but as a shrewd negotiator who has staved off an Israeli battlefield victory while engaging Israeli envoys at the negotiating table, according to officials from Hamas, Israel and the United States. Some spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence assessments of Mr. Sinwar and diplomatic negotiations. While the talks are mediated in Egypt and Qatar, it is Mr. Sinwar believed to be hiding in a tunnel network beneath Gaza whose consent is required by Hamas's negotiators before they agree to any concessions, according to some of those officials. Hamas officials insist that Mr. Sinwar does not have the final say in the group's decisions. But though Mr. Sinwar does not technically have authority over the entire Hamas movement, his leadership role in Gaza and his forceful personality have given him outsize importance in how Hamas operates, according to allies and foes alike. "There's no decision that can be made without consulting Sinwar," said Salah al-Din al-Awawdeh, a Hamas member and political analyst who befriended Mr. Sinwar while they were both jailed in Israel during the 1990s and 2000s. "Sinwar isn't an ordinary leader, he's a powerful person and an architect of events. He's not some sort of manager or director, he's a leader," Mr. al-Awawdeh added. Mr. Sinwar has rarely been heard from since the start of the war, unlike Hamas officials based outside Gaza, including Ismail Haniyeh, the movement's most senior civilian official. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas's behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. Waiting for Mr. Sinwar's approval has often slowed the negotiations, according to officials and analysts. Israeli strikes have damaged much of Gaza's communications infrastructure, and it has sometimes taken a day to get a message to Mr. Sinwar and a day to receive a response, according to U.S. officials and Hamas members. For Israeli and Western officials, Mr. Sinwar has over the course of these negotiations, which stalled again in Cairo this past week, emerged as both a brutal adversary and a deft political operator, capable of analyzing Israeli society and appearing to adapt his policies accordingly. As an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks, Mr. Sinwar masterminded a strategy that he knew would provoke a ferocious Israeli response. But in Hamas's calculus, the deaths of many Palestinian civilians who do not have access to Hamas's subterranean tunnels were the necessary cost of upending the status quo with Israel. American and Israeli intelligence agencies have spent months assessing Mr. Sinwar's motivations, according to people briefed on the intelligence. Analysts in both the United States and Israel believe that Mr. Sinwar is primarily motivated by a desire to take revenge on Israel and weaken it. The well-being of the Palestinian people or the establishment of a Palestinian state, the intelligence analysts say, appears to be secondary. An Understanding of Israeli Society Mr. Sinwar was born in Gaza in 1962 to a family that had fled its home, along with several hundred thousand other Palestinian Arabs who fled or were forced to flee during the wars surrounding the creation of the state of Israel. Mr. Sinwar joined Hamas in the 1980s. He was later imprisoned for murdering Palestinians whom he accused of apostasy or collaborating with Israel, according to Israeli court records from 1989. Mr. Sinwar spent more than two decades in Israeli detention before being released in 2011, along with more than 1,000 other Palestinians, in exchange for one Israeli soldier captured by Hamas. Six years later, Mr. Sinwar was elected leader of Hamas in Gaza. Ismail Haniyeh, left, one of the most senior leaders of Hamas, and Mr. Sinwar in Gaza City in 2017. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas's behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. While in prison, Mr. Sinwar learned Hebrew and developed an understanding of Israeli culture and society, according to fellow former inmates and Israeli officials who monitored him in prison. Mr. Sinwar now appears to be using that knowledge to sow divisions in Israeli society and heighten pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, according to Israeli and U.S. officials. They believe that Mr. Sinwar has timed the release of videos of some Israeli hostages in order to spur public outrage at Mr. Netanyahu during crucial phases of the cease-fire talks. Some Israelis want the remaining hostages released even if it means agreeing to Hamas's demands for a permanent truce that would keep the group and Mr. Sinwar in power. But Mr. Netanyahu has been reluctant to agree to end the war, partly because of pressure from some of his right-wing allies, who have threatened to resign if the war concludes with Hamas unbroken. If Mr. Netanyahu has been accused of dragging out the fighting for personal benefit, so, too, has his archenemy, Mr. Sinwar. Israeli and U.S. intelligence officers say that Mr. Sinwar's strategy is to keep the war going for as long as it takes to shred Israel's international reputation and to damage its relationship with its primary ally, the United States. As Israel faced intense pressure to avoid launching an operation in Rafah, Hamas fired rockets last Sunday from Rafah toward a nearby border crossing, killing four Israeli soldiers. If this was a gambit by Hamas, it appeared to pay off: Israel began an operation this past week on the fringes of Rafah, and against that backdrop President Biden made his strongest criticism of Israeli policy since the war began. Mr. Biden said he would halt some future arms shipments if the Israeli military began a full-scale invasion of the city's urban core. U.S. officials say Mr. Sinwar is most likely in the tunnels under Khan Younis, the next major city to the north intelligence that could undercut the Israeli rationale for the military operations in Rafah. Projecting an Image of Unity Hamas and its allies deny that either Mr. Sinwar or the movement is trying to leverage further Palestinian suffering. "Hamas's strategy is to stop the war right now," said Ahmed Yousef, a Hamas veteran based in Rafah. "To stop the genocide and the killing of the Palestinian people." U.S. officials say that Mr. Sinwar has shown disdain for his colleagues outside Gaza, who were not informed about the precise plans for Hamas's attack on Oct. 7. American officials also believe that Mr. Sinwar approves military operations conducted by Hamas, though Israeli intelligence officers say they are unsure of the extent of his involvement. A senior Western official familiar with the cease-fire negotiations believes that Mr. Sinwar appears to make decisions in concert with his brother, Muhammad, a senior Hamas military leader, and that throughout the war he had sometimes disagreed with Hamas leaders outside Gaza. While the outside leadership has at times been more willing to compromise, Mr. Sinwar is less ready to concede ground to the Israeli negotiators, in part, because he knows that he is likely to be killed whether or not the war ends, the official said. Even if negotiators seal a cease-fire deal, Israel is likely to pursue Mr. Sinwar for the rest of his life, the official said. Hamas members have projected an image of unity, downplaying Mr. Sinwar's personal role in decision-making and maintaining that Hamas's elected leadership collectively determines the movement's trajectory. Some say that if Mr. Sinwar has played a bigger role during this war, it is mostly because of his position: As the leader of Hamas in Gaza, Mr. Sinwar has greater say, though not the final call, according to Mousa Abu Marzouk, a senior Hamas official based in Qatar. "Sinwar's opinion is very important because he's on the ground and he's leading the movement on the inside," said Mr. Abu Marzouk, the first leader of Hamas's political office in the 1990s. But Mr. Haniyeh has the "final say" on key decisions, Mr. Abu Marzouk said, adding that all of Hamas's political leaders were of "one opinion." Mr. Haniyeh could not immediately be reached for comment. Still, there is something unusual about Mr. Sinwar's force of personality, according to Mr. al-Awawdeh, his friend from prison. Other leaders might not have instigated the Oct. 7 attack, preferring to focus on technocratic matters of governance, Mr. al-Awawdeh said. "If someone else had been in his position, things might have gone in a calmer way," he said. Mr. Sinwar himself could not be reached for comment and has rarely been heard from since October. U.S. and Israeli officials have said Mr. Sinwar is hiding near hostages, using them as human shields. An Israeli hostage who was released during a truce in November said she met Mr. Sinwar during her captivity. In February, the Israeli military published a video that it said soldiers had taken from a security camera they found in a Hamas tunnel beneath Gaza. The video showed a man hurrying down the tunnel, accompanied by a woman and children. The military said the man was Mr. Sinwar, fleeing with his family. The claim was impossible to verify: The man's face was turned away from the camera. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Link to NYT biographical piece on Sinwar. Entire article in spoiler below. Highpoints As Israeli officials seek his killing, they have been forced to negotiate with him, albeit indirectly, to free the remaining hostages. Mr. Sinwar has emerged not only as a strong-willed commander but as a shrewd negotiator who has staved off an Israeli battlefield victory while engaging Israeli envoys at the negotiating table. it is Mr. Sinwar believed to be hiding in a tunnel network beneath Gaza whose consent is required by Hamas's negotiators before they agree to any concessions. Though Mr. Sinwar does not technically have authority over the entire Hamas movement, his leadership role in Gaza and his forceful personality have given him outsize importance in how Hamas operates, according to allies and foes alike. "There's no decision that can be made without consulting Sinwar," said Salah al-Din al-Awawdeh, a Hamas member and political analyst who befriended Mr. Sinwar while they were both jailed in Israel during the 1990s and 2000s. "Sinwar isn't an ordinary leader, he's a powerful person and an architect of events. He's not some sort of manager or director, he's a leader," Mr. al-Awawdeh added. Waiting for Mr. Sinwar's approval has often slowed the negotiations, according to officials and analysts. Israeli strikes have damaged much of Gaza's communications infrastructure, and it has sometimes taken a day to get a message to Mr. Sinwar and a day to receive a response. Sinwar...emerged as both a brutal adversary and a deft political operator, capable of analyzing Israeli society and appearing to adapt his policies accordingly. As an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks, Mr. Sinwar masterminded a strategy that he knew would provoke a ferocious Israeli response. But in Hamas's calculus, the deaths...ofcivilians ...were the necessary cost of upending the status quo with Israel. Analysts...believe that Mr. Sinwar is primarily motivated by a desire to take revenge on Israel and weaken it. The well-being of the Palestinian people or the establishment of a Palestinian state, the intelligence analysts say, appears to be secondary. Sinwar joined Hamas in the 1980s. He was later imprisoned for murdering Palestinians whom he accused of apostasy or collaborating with Israel. Sinwar spent more than two decades in Israeli detention before being released in 2011, along with more than 1,000 other Palestinians, in exchange for one Israeli soldier. Sinwar learned Hebrew and developed an understanding of Israeli culture and society, according to fellow former inmates and Israeli officials who monitored him in prison. Mr. Sinwar now appears to be using that knowledge to sow divisions in Israeli society Sinwar's strategy is to keep the war going for as long as it takes to shred Israel's international reputation and to damage its relationship with its primary ally, the United States. As Israel faced intense pressure to avoid launching an operation in Rafah, Hamas fired rockets last Sunday from Rafah toward a nearby border crossing, killing four Israeli soldiers. U.S. officials say Mr. Sinwar is most likely in the tunnels under Khan Younis, the next major city to the north intelligence that could undercut the Israeli rationale for the military operations in Rafah.(BS--Rafah needs fixing with or without Sinwar's death.) https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/05/12/multimedia/12israel-gaza-sinwar-01-fkvm/12israel-gaza-sinwar-01-fkvm-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp Entire article inside spoiler Click To View Spoiler Yahya Sinwar Helped Start the War in Gaza. Now He's Key to Its Endgame. Hamas's leader in Gaza is considered an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks that prompted Israel to retaliate. As mediators seek a cease-fire, a deal depends on Mr. Sinwar as well as his Israeli foes. After Hamas attacked Israel in October, igniting the war in Gaza, Israeli leaders described the group's most senior official in the territory, Yahya Sinwar, as a "dead man walking." Considering him an architect of the raid, Israel has portrayed Mr. Sinwar's assassination as a major goal of its devastating counterattack. Seven months later, Mr. Sinwar's survival is emblematic of the failures of Israel's war, which has ravaged much of Gaza but left Hamas's top leadership largely intact and failed to free most of the captives taken during the October attack. Even as Israeli officials seek his killing, they have been forced to negotiate with him, albeit indirectly, to free the remaining hostages. Mr. Sinwar has emerged not only as a strong-willed commander but as a shrewd negotiator who has staved off an Israeli battlefield victory while engaging Israeli envoys at the negotiating table, according to officials from Hamas, Israel and the United States. Some spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence assessments of Mr. Sinwar and diplomatic negotiations. While the talks are mediated in Egypt and Qatar, it is Mr. Sinwar believed to be hiding in a tunnel network beneath Gaza whose consent is required by Hamas's negotiators before they agree to any concessions, according to some of those officials. Hamas officials insist that Mr. Sinwar does not have the final say in the group's decisions. But though Mr. Sinwar does not technically have authority over the entire Hamas movement, his leadership role in Gaza and his forceful personality have given him outsize importance in how Hamas operates, according to allies and foes alike. "There's no decision that can be made without consulting Sinwar," said Salah al-Din al-Awawdeh, a Hamas member and political analyst who befriended Mr. Sinwar while they were both jailed in Israel during the 1990s and 2000s. "Sinwar isn't an ordinary leader, he's a powerful person and an architect of events. He's not some sort of manager or director, he's a leader," Mr. al-Awawdeh added. Mr. Sinwar has rarely been heard from since the start of the war, unlike Hamas officials based outside Gaza, including Ismail Haniyeh, the movement's most senior civilian official. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas's behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. Waiting for Mr. Sinwar's approval has often slowed the negotiations, according to officials and analysts. Israeli strikes have damaged much of Gaza's communications infrastructure, and it has sometimes taken a day to get a message to Mr. Sinwar and a day to receive a response, according to U.S. officials and Hamas members. For Israeli and Western officials, Mr. Sinwar has over the course of these negotiations, which stalled again in Cairo this past week, emerged as both a brutal adversary and a deft political operator, capable of analyzing Israeli society and appearing to adapt his policies accordingly. As an architect of the Oct. 7 attacks, Mr. Sinwar masterminded a strategy that he knew would provoke a ferocious Israeli response. But in Hamas's calculus, the deaths of many Palestinian civilians who do not have access to Hamas's subterranean tunnels were the necessary cost of upending the status quo with Israel. American and Israeli intelligence agencies have spent months assessing Mr. Sinwar's motivations, according to people briefed on the intelligence. Analysts in both the United States and Israel believe that Mr. Sinwar is primarily motivated by a desire to take revenge on Israel and weaken it. The well-being of the Palestinian people or the establishment of a Palestinian state, the intelligence analysts say, appears to be secondary. An Understanding of Israeli Society Mr. Sinwar was born in Gaza in 1962 to a family that had fled its home, along with several hundred thousand other Palestinian Arabs who fled or were forced to flee during the wars surrounding the creation of the state of Israel. Mr. Sinwar joined Hamas in the 1980s. He was later imprisoned for murdering Palestinians whom he accused of apostasy or collaborating with Israel, according to Israeli court records from 1989. Mr. Sinwar spent more than two decades in Israeli detention before being released in 2011, along with more than 1,000 other Palestinians, in exchange for one Israeli soldier captured by Hamas. Six years later, Mr. Sinwar was elected leader of Hamas in Gaza. Ismail Haniyeh, left, one of the most senior leaders of Hamas, and Mr. Sinwar in Gaza City in 2017. Though he is nominally junior to Mr. Haniyeh, Mr. Sinwar has been central to Hamas's behind-the-scenes decision to hold out for a permanent cease-fire, American and Israeli officials say. While in prison, Mr. Sinwar learned Hebrew and developed an understanding of Israeli culture and society, according to fellow former inmates and Israeli officials who monitored him in prison. Mr. Sinwar now appears to be using that knowledge to sow divisions in Israeli society and heighten pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, according to Israeli and U.S. officials. They believe that Mr. Sinwar has timed the release of videos of some Israeli hostages in order to spur public outrage at Mr. Netanyahu during crucial phases of the cease-fire talks. Some Israelis want the remaining hostages released even if it means agreeing to Hamas's demands for a permanent truce that would keep the group and Mr. Sinwar in power. But Mr. Netanyahu has been reluctant to agree to end the war, partly because of pressure from some of his right-wing allies, who have threatened to resign if the war concludes with Hamas unbroken. If Mr. Netanyahu has been accused of dragging out the fighting for personal benefit, so, too, has his archenemy, Mr. Sinwar. Israeli and U.S. intelligence officers say that Mr. Sinwar's strategy is to keep the war going for as long as it takes to shred Israel's international reputation and to damage its relationship with its primary ally, the United States. As Israel faced intense pressure to avoid launching an operation in Rafah, Hamas fired rockets last Sunday from Rafah toward a nearby border crossing, killing four Israeli soldiers. If this was a gambit by Hamas, it appeared to pay off: Israel began an operation this past week on the fringes of Rafah, and against that backdrop President Biden made his strongest criticism of Israeli policy since the war began. Mr. Biden said he would halt some future arms shipments if the Israeli military began a full-scale invasion of the city's urban core. U.S. officials say Mr. Sinwar is most likely in the tunnels under Khan Younis, the next major city to the north intelligence that could undercut the Israeli rationale for the military operations in Rafah. Projecting an Image of Unity Hamas and its allies deny that either Mr. Sinwar or the movement is trying to leverage further Palestinian suffering. "Hamas's strategy is to stop the war right now," said Ahmed Yousef, a Hamas veteran based in Rafah. "To stop the genocide and the killing of the Palestinian people." U.S. officials say that Mr. Sinwar has shown disdain for his colleagues outside Gaza, who were not informed about the precise plans for Hamas's attack on Oct. 7. American officials also believe that Mr. Sinwar approves military operations conducted by Hamas, though Israeli intelligence officers say they are unsure of the extent of his involvement. A senior Western official familiar with the cease-fire negotiations believes that Mr. Sinwar appears to make decisions in concert with his brother, Muhammad, a senior Hamas military leader, and that throughout the war he had sometimes disagreed with Hamas leaders outside Gaza. While the outside leadership has at times been more willing to compromise, Mr. Sinwar is less ready to concede ground to the Israeli negotiators, in part, because he knows that he is likely to be killed whether or not the war ends, the official said. Even if negotiators seal a cease-fire deal, Israel is likely to pursue Mr. Sinwar for the rest of his life, the official said. Hamas members have projected an image of unity, downplaying Mr. Sinwar's personal role in decision-making and maintaining that Hamas's elected leadership collectively determines the movement's trajectory. Some say that if Mr. Sinwar has played a bigger role during this war, it is mostly because of his position: As the leader of Hamas in Gaza, Mr. Sinwar has greater say, though not the final call, according to Mousa Abu Marzouk, a senior Hamas official based in Qatar. "Sinwar's opinion is very important because he's on the ground and he's leading the movement on the inside," said Mr. Abu Marzouk, the first leader of Hamas's political office in the 1990s. But Mr. Haniyeh has the "final say" on key decisions, Mr. Abu Marzouk said, adding that all of Hamas's political leaders were of "one opinion." Mr. Haniyeh could not immediately be reached for comment. Still, there is something unusual about Mr. Sinwar's force of personality, according to Mr. al-Awawdeh, his friend from prison. Other leaders might not have instigated the Oct. 7 attack, preferring to focus on technocratic matters of governance, Mr. al-Awawdeh said. "If someone else had been in his position, things might have gone in a calmer way," he said. Mr. Sinwar himself could not be reached for comment and has rarely been heard from since October. U.S. and Israeli officials have said Mr. Sinwar is hiding near hostages, using them as human shields. An Israeli hostage who was released during a truce in November said she met Mr. Sinwar during her captivity. In February, the Israeli military published a video that it said soldiers had taken from a security camera they found in a Hamas tunnel beneath Gaza. The video showed a man hurrying down the tunnel, accompanied by a woman and children. The military said the man was Mr. Sinwar, fleeing with his family. The claim was impossible to verify: The man's face was turned away from the camera. Now they get to hunt him down again. |
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Footage from the playground in Be'er Sheva, where a Hamas missile directly hit a children’s playground:
Two Hamas rocket launch positions in southern Gaza's Rafah, used to attack Beersheba earlier today, were struck by Israeli aircraft: The IDF says it carried out a wave of airstrikes against Hezbollah positions in six different areas in southern Lebanon: A Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist who participated in the October 7 onslaught was killed in an Israeli airstrike in the Gaza City neighborhood of Zeitoun: The IDF launched an operation against Hamas in northern Gaza's Jabaliya overnight, after it says Hamas was identified regrouping in the area. |
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Have you ever personally been in a position in which you always relied on someone else’s financial support so that you could realize your goals and dreams? Like a father or mother or rich uncle. Or, let’s say, like a miserable dictatorial tyrannical father-in-law? (Just saying . . .)
And did that support sometimes come with strings? Strings that not only tied your hands but curtailed your dreams? (Just saying . . .) Have you ever reached a moment in your life where you decided “Either I spend the rest of my life toeing to his every command, and later look back ruefully on my deathbed wishing I could go back in time and live the life I had wanted to live — or I tell him right now to stuff his money, and I will be liberated to return to living the life I was meant to live, to pursue my dreams? (Just saying . . . ) So you stopped being an attorney at a major law firm, where you were earning a boatload of money, and returned to being a rabbi because that was your calling? (Just saying . . .) There is nothing in all the world that compares to standing on your own two feet, living the life you were called to live, the life you want to live, even though now struggling to make it work financially without that old standby monetary support you always had relied on, but now figuring out how to do it yourself, albeit with G-d’s primary help. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/389727 |
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Released Israeli Hostage Describes How Hamas Videos Were Made in TV Interview. Link
Highpoints When the interviewer asked Tal [the former kidnap victim] about the widely accepted assumption that hostages who speak so do under duress as part of a psychological warfare campaign, she confirmed that was the case. "Yeah, they're all bullshit," she said. "We made hours of film," she recounted, most of it never released...They filmed all of us, one after the other," she said. "Everything is scripted, down to the letter." The videos more or less follow the same format, with hostages stating that their lives are in danger because of Israel's military campaign and the Israeli government's refusal to negotiate a deal. She also described how many takes she had to do when she was filming. "I cried in the first one, so they told me, 'Do it again, no crying,'" Tal said. "'For the next one, I was too relaxed, so they told me, 'More drama. You need to sound scared.'" Tal recounted one video she filmed together with Katzir and Sagi. "All of a sudden, they set up a beautiful table, with fancy dishes and a bunch of food. We were supposed to sit at the table and eat." Tal said. "It was, of course, a complete lie. In reality, we all ate from the same small plate." Tal also expanded on how the videos were made. "We were supposed to speak in Hebrew but the people who held us did not speak the language. We spoke to them in a mixture of Arabic and English." "After we filmed a few videos, they would give the [camera's] memory card to...someone who understood Hebrew, and he would check to make sure we said what we were supposed to say." View Quote Entire article in spoiler Click To View Spoiler Released Israeli hostage describes how Hamas videos were made in TV interview
Meirav Tal at a screening of former hostages' stories, last week. A recent interview with one of the Israeli hostages released from captivity in Gaza sheds new light on the propaganda videos released by Hamas and Islamic Jihad since the start of the war. As part of the Israeli Channel 12 News' coverage of Memorial Day on Monday, former hostage Meirav Tal appeared on its morning program to discuss her experience. Along with her partner, Yair Yaakov, Tal was kidnapped from their Nir Oz home on October 7. Yaakov's children, 12-year-old Yagil and 16-year-old Or, were taken from their mother's home in the same kibbutz. Tal and the children returned to Israel last November in a deal between Israel and Hamas for the release of 100 hostages in exchange for a temporary cease-fire and the release of Palestinian prisoners. Yaakov was originally thought to have been taken alive, but it was announced in February that he had been murdered on October 7. His body is still being held in Gaza. During the interview, Tal described the videos she and other hostages were forced to record while in captivity. "We made hours of film," she recounted, most of it never released. For the first three weeks of her ordeal, the 53-year-old was held by members of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror organization. She was held together with Ada Sagi, who was released as part of the same deal that brought Tal home, and Elad Katzir, whose body was recovered by the military in April. Before his death, Katzir was featured in two released videos, which Tal was present for the filming of. "They filmed all of us, one after the other," she said. "Everything is scripted, down to the letter." In the nearly eight months since October 7, Hamas and, to a lesser extent, Islamic Jihad, have aired a handful of videos featuring some of those held in Gaza, including one of Yagil Yaakov and Hannah Katzir, Elad Katzir's mother. The videos more or less follow the same format, with hostages stating that their lives are in danger because of Israel's military campaign and the Israeli government's refusal to negotiate a deal. Many of the recordings end with personal messages to the hostage's loved ones, like that of Keith Siegel, which Hamas released last month. "I want to tell my family that I love you very much," Siegel says in the video before breaking down in tears. "It's important to me that you know I'm OK, and I really hope you are, too." For the hostages' family members, the videos elicit mixed emotions. On the one hand, it is an important sign of life from their loved one; for many, it's the very first one since the early morning hours of October 7. But it is also a visual reminder of the direness of the hostages' condition, with many appearing sick, malnourished, or, like Nadav Poplewell and Ohad Yahlomi, badly injured. When the interviewer asked Tal about the widely accepted assumption that hostages who speak so do under duress as part of a psychological warfare campaign, she confirmed that was the case. "Yeah, they're all bullshit," she said. She also described how many takes she had to do when she was filming. "I cried in the first one, so they told me, 'Do it again, no crying,'" Tal said. "'For the next one, I was too relaxed, so they told me, 'More drama. You need to sound scared.'" Tal recounted one video she filmed together with Katzir and Sagi. "All of a sudden, they set up a beautiful table, with fancy dishes and a bunch of food. We were supposed to sit at the table and eat." Tal said. "It was, of course, a complete lie. In reality, we all ate from the same small plate." Tal also expanded on how the videos were made. "We were supposed to speak in Hebrew but the people who held us did not speak the language. We spoke to them in a mixture of Arabic and English." "The cameras they used all had memory cards," she continued. "After we filmed a few videos, they would give the memory card to one of their superiors, someone who understood Hebrew, and he would check to make sure we said what we were supposed to say." The majority of the videos are first released on Hamas/Islamic Jihad's telegram channels before making their way to the wider public via social media and other back channels. The vast majority of families who receive messages from their loved ones request that the videos not be publicized, a request Israeli and international news channels by in large honor, opting to post screenshots of the footage instead. The most notable exception to this policy has been the video of Hersh Goldberg-Polin, the 23-year-old American-Israeli who was taken captive from the Nova Music Festival. His mother, Rachel, has become an international symbol of the fight to bring home the hostages, with her speeches often going viral after she delivers them. When Hamas released its propaganda video of Hersh last month, which showed the extent of the gunshot wound to his arm, his parents, Rachel and Jon, immediately approved publication of the video as a way of shining light on the plight of the hostages. "Seeing the video of Hersh today is overwhelming," the family said in a statement. "We are relieved to see him alive but we are also concerned about his health and wellbeing as well as that of all the other hostages and all of those suffering in this region." |
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Originally Posted By nraheston: Have you ever personally been in a position in which you always relied on someone else's financial support so that you could realize your goals and dreams? Like a father or mother or rich uncle. Or, let's say, like a miserable dictatorial tyrannical father-in-law? (Just saying . . .) And did that support sometimes come with strings? Strings that not only tied your hands but curtailed your dreams? (Just saying . . .) Have you ever reached a moment in your life where you decided "Either I spend the rest of my life toeing to his every command, and later look back ruefully on my deathbed wishing I could go back in time and live the life I had wanted to live or I tell him right now to stuff his money, and I will be liberated to return to living the life I was meant to live, to pursue my dreams? (Just saying . . . ) So you stopped being an attorney at a major law firm, where you were earning a boatload of money, and returned to being a rabbi because that was your calling? (Just saying . . .) There is nothing in all the world that compares to standing on your own two feet, living the life you were called to live, the life you want to live, even though now struggling to make it work financially without that old standby monetary support you always had relied on, but now figuring out how to do it yourself, albeit with G-d's primary help. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/389727 View Quote As I understand what happened, Clinton made a deal with Israel to stop producing munitions. The US would then supply munitions to Israel, giving them money and then they would make the purchase from the US. Prior to this deal, Israel produced their own munitions, or purchased from the market. I expect Israel to re-start their munitions production, but it will take time. |
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View Quote How do they know they're Hamas members, and how did they get to Turkey? Did they just count all patients and decide to call them Hamas, or is it just BS? Needs to be about 50x that to end the war. |
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@DetroitSounds Many of us are here just for the gun camera videos, like me. Not cheerleading for one side or the other, besides not liking indiscriminate killing terrorists in general. Most non liberal are called "Terrorists" already even though we're not the ones burning down cities when things don't go our way. They will see what insurgency looks like if they keep fucking around, though. In that case, civilians still aren't the targets, the .gov is. That's the big difference between insurgent and terrorist. |
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Jake Sullivan Attempts To Claim "No President Has Stood Stronger With Israel Than Joe Biden"
Jake Sullivan Attempts To Claim "No President Has Stood Stronger With Israel Than Joe Biden" Jake Sullivan Says Biden Won't Let "Iran And Its Proxies Succeed" After Enriching Them With Billions Jake Sullivan Says Biden Won't Let "Iran And Its Proxies Succeed" After Enriching Them With Billions |
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Karine Jean-Pierre On Biden Importing Gazans Into United States: "We're Gonna Look At Everything"
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Do you post the same bullshit in the NFL thread or the thread about the woman hallucinating on the plane? Not that there is anything wrong with those, but lots of people read and comment and those topics have no tangible impact on our lives, either.If you think that one of the longest wars Israel has been in has no tangible effect or won't have a tangible effect on our lives you are either very dumb, hopelessly naive, or just trolling. The war has already spread to the Red Sea, seriously impacting shipping and driving up costs and for all intents and purposes closing the Suez canal. As the war metastized, USN ships and sailors have been attacked, along with USAF and Army bases and troops. We've seen one of, if not the, largest use of drones, missiles, and rockets in a single attack, carried out by a regime that has "Death to America" as one of its founding ideals.The war in Gaza has the potential to throw the Middle East into turmoil, driving up energy costs, as well as creating a refugee crisis that could destroy Egypt and lead to immigration to Europe and elsewhere, destabilizing societies well beyond the Greater Middle East. Add on potential backlash against the US because of support for what many are calling a genocide. A Saudi lunatic you might have heard of used the Palestinian problem among other issues to recruit fellow psychopaths. Next time I'm in New York, I'll take you to lunch at Windows on the World where we can talk about this more. The current war will create new momentum for Islamist kooks to resume their attacks on the "Great Satan".Domestically the war threatens to upend the Democrat party, giving political oxygen and power to radical morons. If they are elected or become "king makers" for current legislators, don't think for a second they'll stick to changing foreign policy; expect them to enact laws that will damage our country and individual citizens. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By realwar:Jake Sullivan Says Biden Won't Let "Iran And Its Proxies Succeed" After Enriching Them With Billion View Quote Maybe words mean different things for him. Who knows what they teach at Yale, Oxford, and Yale Law where Jake "The Genius" got degrees. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Another Iraqi militia drone? #DroneWars IDF: "IAF fighter jets successfully intercepted a UAV that approached Israel from the east. The UAV was monitored by IDF soldiers, did not cross into Israeli territory and no sirens were sounded according to protocol. No injuries were reported and no damage was caused." View Quote
One of the challenges Israel faces is that a lot of this war has been designed as a trap for Israel. The goal of the Hamas, which is backed by y two western allies in the region and therefore enjoys a certain kind of protection which other terrorist Groiss do not enjoy, was to carry out this massive attack after having lured Israel to believe it was deterred…then it wanted a long war in Gaza and it wanted make it impossible to replace Hamas and it knew it could do this because it has friends in Ankara and Doha and Tehran and Moscow; and it has a lot of partners in international NGOs. It’s so rooted in Gaza and so much of the intl community benefits by having Hamas there that this was a trap for Israel…and a trap for the PA…and the Hamas goal is to take over the PA via the Oct 7 war. View Quote Palestinian twitter inside quote box Don't hear or read this every day. But we shouldn't kid ourselves, some Gazans might oppose Sinwar but still support the actions he's directed.
Curse ** your mother, Sinwar ** Your sister, son of ** him If you had an ounce of honor, you would come out and say to the world, Stop the popular bombardment View Quote
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Institute for Study of War Backgrounder 13 May Key Takeaways Gaza Strip Palestinian militias, including Hamas, claimed an unusually high number of attacks targeting Israeli forces in the northern Gaza Strip, demonstrating that these militias remain combat effective and retain a significant force presence there. This supports CTP-ISW’s assessment that Hamas and the other Palestinian militias remain active beyond just Rafah in Gaza. Palestinian militias claimed 33 attacks on Israeli forces in Jabalia, marking the most attacks claimed in a single day in 2024. Hamas has exploited Israeli withdrawals from the northern Gaza Strip to begin reconstituting. Israeli forces then returned to areas to re-clear them. Israeli forces moved back into Jabalia on May 11 after intel showed Hamas reconstituting. Until now there have been few Palestinian attacks in Jabalia in 2024, likely due to few Israeli targets rather than state of Palestinian militias. Isaeli forces launched a clearing operation into Zaytou on May 8, marking the third time that the IDF has conducted a clearing operation there. Hamas exploits the targeted raids used by the IDF to move forces from targeted areas, confident that the Israeli's focused operations won't capture or kill them. Hamas and the other Palestinian militias will resume their reconstitution process in these neighborhoods once Israeli forces are redeployed to others parts of Gaza. Senior US officials have indicated concerns that Hamas will survive in the Gaza Strip. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken warned on May 12 that without an alternative to Hamas, Israel will achieve unsustainable successes and ultimately Hamas would return to power. US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell told CNN that the United States doesn’t believe that Israel’s goal of a total victory over Hamas is ”likely or possible.” (Note--the IDF has backed away from the complete destruction of Hamas as an objective months ago, and have been saying the objective is to ensure Hamas is unable to mount a 7 Oct style attack again.) Israeli forces continued to conduct clearing operations in eastern Rafah and at the Rafah border crossing. IDF Givati Brigade launched a “targeted brigade attack” against Hamas in eastern Rafah, killing several Palestinian fighters. The IDF 401st Brigade raided military infrastructure and found weapons in a school. Israeli forces advanced west of the Salah al Din Road in eastern Rafah. Hamas mortared Israeli forces at the Rafah border crossing, which caused 10 IDF casualties. In addition to common small arms, militias have used EFPs against Israeli forces in east Rafah. Sky News reported Israel offered control of the Rafah border crossing with Egypt to the Palestinian Authority (PA). The PA replied that it would not agree to manage the crossing under the IDF. The Israeli clearing operation into Rafah threatens the Egypt-Israel peace treaty, according to a senior Egyptian official speaking to the Associated Press. The report follows growing tension between Egypt and Israel regarding Israeli operations in the Gaza Strip. Egypt refused to coordinate with Israel on the entry of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip via the now Israeli-controlled Rafah border crossing due to Israel’s “unacceptable escalation”. Palestinian militias have conducted two indirect fire attacks into Israel. West Bank The Israeli Tsav 9 group organized protesters to block humanitarian aid trucks bound for the Gaza Strip at a border crossing between Israel and the West Bank. Israeli forces have engaged Palestinian fighters in at least three locations in the West Bank. PIJ forces in the West Bank shot at IDF soldiers across the border in Israel as well as attacking an Israeli military position in Jenin. Southern Lebanon and Golan Heights A Lebanese newspaper reported that Hezbollah is evading Israeli air defenses by using drones in its attacks into northern Israel, citing Iranian-backed sources. Hezbollah fired two drones targeting Israeli forces near Beit Hilel on May 13, marking the third Hezbollah drone attack targeting the area since May 11. Hezbollah has claimed 12 drone attacks targeting Israeli forces in northern Israel since May 1, which is as many drone attacks claimed during all of April 2024. Lebanese Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah gave a speech on May 13 discussing Hezbollah’s continued support for Palestinian fighters in the Gaza Strip. Nasrallah said that ”the link between Lebanon and Gaza is final and recognized” and that Hezbollah will continue to conduct attacks targeting northern Israel in support of Palestinian fighters in the Gaza Strip. Yemen US Central Command (CENTCOM) intercepted a Houthi drone over the Gulf of Aden. Houthi-controlled media claimed that the United States and the United Kingdom conducted an airstrike targeting Hudayduh International Airport. CENTCOM has not commented on the claim. Iran Iran is continuing to signal publicly that it could pursue a nuclear weapon. Anti-Iranian regime outlet Iran International and an Israeli social media account published a joint investigation on May 13 detailing senior Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) officer Mohammad Reza Zahedi’s last movements in Iran and Syria before Israel killed him in Damascus on April 1. The article claimed that Zahedi flew on an IRGC-affiliated aircraft from Tehran to the Russian-controlled Hmeimim Military Airport in Latakia on April 1. Zahedi later traveled from Latakia to Damascus and arrived approximately fifteen minutes before Israel conducted the airstrike that killed him. Hmeimim Military Airport is Russia’s largest military base in Syria. Supreme Leader Office Chief of Staff Mohammad Mohammadi Golpayegani lamented on May 10 that Western sanctions have made Iran’s economic situation “difficult.” Senior Iranian clerics separately criticized Iran’s “rampant inflation” and “exchange rate fluctuations” during meetings with President Ebrahim Raisi in Qom. Strategic Foreign Relations Council Chairman Kamal Kharrazi stated during an annual Arab-Iranian dialogue conference on May 13 that Iran would need to change its nuclear doctrine if it faced threats from nuclear-armed countries. This is particularly noteworthy given that Kharrazi is a senior adviser to Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. Political Negotiations US President Joe Biden said that there would be a “ceasefire tomorrow” in the Gaza Strip if Hamas would release the remaining Israeli hostages. Iraq Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammad Shia al Sudani requested that the UN Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) permanently end its mission in Iraq by the end of 2025. View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By michigan66: Do you post the same bullshit in the NFL thread or the thread about the woman hallucinating on the plane? Not that there is anything wrong with those, but lots of people read and comment and those topics have no tangible impact on our lives, either. If you think that one of the longest wars Israel has been in has no tangible effect or won't have a tangible effect on our lives you are either very dumb, hopelessly naive, or just trolling. The war has already spread to the Red Sea, seriously impacting shipping and driving up costs and for all intents and purposes closing the Suez canal. As the war metastized, USN ships and sailors have been attacked, along with USAF and Army bases and troops. We've seen one of, if not the, largest use of drones, missiles, and rockets in a single attack, carried out by a regime that has "Death to America" as one of its founding ideals. The war in Gaza has the potential to throw the Middle East into turmoil, driving up energy costs, as well as creating a refugee crisis that could destroy Egypt and lead to immigration to Europe and elsewhere, destabilizing societies well beyond the Greater Middle East. Add on potential backlash against the US because of support for what many are calling a genocide. A Saudi lunatic you might have heard of used the Palestinian problem among other issues to recruit fellow psychopaths. Next time I'm in New York, I'll take you to lunch at Windows on the World where we can talk about this more. The current war will create new momentum for Islamist kooks to resume their attacks on the "Great Satan". Domestically the war threatens to upend the Democrat party, giving political oxygen and power to radical morons. If they are elected or become "king makers" for current legislators, don't think for a second they'll stick to changing foreign policy; expect them to enact laws that will damage our country and individual citizens. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By DetroitSounds: Over 4M views in about 6 months. Wow, goes to show how much Americans love to talk about war, when it has no tangible impact on our daily lives here. Do you post the same bullshit in the NFL thread or the thread about the woman hallucinating on the plane? Not that there is anything wrong with those, but lots of people read and comment and those topics have no tangible impact on our lives, either. If you think that one of the longest wars Israel has been in has no tangible effect or won't have a tangible effect on our lives you are either very dumb, hopelessly naive, or just trolling. The war has already spread to the Red Sea, seriously impacting shipping and driving up costs and for all intents and purposes closing the Suez canal. As the war metastized, USN ships and sailors have been attacked, along with USAF and Army bases and troops. We've seen one of, if not the, largest use of drones, missiles, and rockets in a single attack, carried out by a regime that has "Death to America" as one of its founding ideals. The war in Gaza has the potential to throw the Middle East into turmoil, driving up energy costs, as well as creating a refugee crisis that could destroy Egypt and lead to immigration to Europe and elsewhere, destabilizing societies well beyond the Greater Middle East. Add on potential backlash against the US because of support for what many are calling a genocide. A Saudi lunatic you might have heard of used the Palestinian problem among other issues to recruit fellow psychopaths. Next time I'm in New York, I'll take you to lunch at Windows on the World where we can talk about this more. The current war will create new momentum for Islamist kooks to resume their attacks on the "Great Satan". Domestically the war threatens to upend the Democrat party, giving political oxygen and power to radical morons. If they are elected or become "king makers" for current legislators, don't think for a second they'll stick to changing foreign policy; expect them to enact laws that will damage our country and individual citizens. He thinks the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated so his motives are likely elsewhere. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
More than 100 targets were struck by Israeli Air Force fighter jets, drones, and helicopters across the Gaza Strip over the past day, the military says, as fighting continues in Rafah, Zeitoun, and Jabaliya. The IDF says troops of the 401st Armored Brigade and Givati Infantry Brigade, under the 162nd Division, killed several cells of gunmen in close-quarters combat in eastern Rafah, as well as located weapons. In Jabaliya, the military says the 98th Division expanded its operations in the area, raiding Hamas sites in the city in northern Gaza. Over the past day, troops of the Paratroopers, 460th, and 7th brigades killed dozens of gunmen in Jabaliya, according to the IDF. Meanwhile, in Gaza City's Zeitoun, troops operating under the 99th Division located tunnel shafts and destroyed several rocket launchers and a weapons depot. Several gunmen were also killed by the troops, the military says. Sites hit by the IAF included a command room in central Gaza where at least five operatives were gathered, booby-trapped buildings, and other infrastructure, along with gunmen near troops, the IDF adds. View Quote
A member of Hezbollah was killed in an airstrike in southern Lebanon's Mays al-Jabal a short while ago, the military says. Fighter jets also hit several more Hezbollah sites in Kharayeb, Halta, and Yaroun, the IDF adds. Anti-tank guided missiles were also launched from Lebanon at the Upper Galilee a short while ago. Sirens had sounded in the communities of Adamit, Hanita, Ya'ara, Eilon, Goren, and Arab al-Aramshe. View Quote
Two soldiers of the elite Yahalom combat engineering unit were seriously wounded by mortars launched by Hamas in southern Gaza's Rafah earlier today, the military says. Another six troops were moderately hurt in the same incident. A Defense Ministry contractor was seriously hurt and another two employees were lightly hurt in another incident in southern Gaza, the military adds. The IDF also reports that last night, a soldier of the Givati Brigade's Rotem Battalion was seriously wounded during a gun battle with operatives in the northern Gaza Strip. Separately on Tuesday, two troops of the Golani Brigade's 51st Battalion were seriously wounded in an "operational accident" on the Gaza border, near the border community of Nir Am. The troops had been hurt during IDF strikes in the area. View Quote Link to liveblog articles below Here's what you need to know on Day 221 of the war. ■ The ICJ will hold hearings on Thursday and Friday to discuss new emergency measures sought by South Africa over Israel's attacks on Rafah during the war in Gaza. ■ Egyptian officials told the Wall Street Journal that Cairo is considering downgrading its diplomatic ties with Israel, following a crisis in relations over Israel's Rafah operation. ■ Almost 450,000 people have fled Rafah in the Gaza Strip since the Israeli army issued the first evacuation orders a week ago, according to UN figures. ■ Israeli tanks pushed deeper into built-up areas of eastern Rafah, according to residents. The IDF said it is operating against armed squads in east Rafah and the area of the Rafah border crossing. ■ According to the army, Israeli military activity also expanded overnight in Jabalya refugee camp in the north of Gaza City, and raids were carried out on terror targets. ■ Dozens of protesters blocked roads in northern Israel, demanding a solution to the conflict in the north that allows them to return to their homes. ■ Israelis marked Israel's 76th Independence Day. View Quote Rocket sirens sound in Sderot near the Gaza border World Court to hold hearings over extra emergency measures against Israel for Rafah attacks The UN's International Court of Justice will hold hearings on Thursday and Friday to discuss new emergency measures sought by South Africa over Israel's attacks on Rafah during the war in Gaza, the tribunal said. View Quote
Empty streets in #Rafah as families continue to flee in search of safety. @UNRWA estimates that nearly 450,000 people have been forcibly displaced from Rafah since 6 May. People face constant exhaustion, hunger and fear. Nowhere is safe. An immediate #ceasefire is the only hope View Quote
The Israeli military responds to the death of a United Nations employee and the injury of another in southern Gaza's Rafah on Monday, saying that the pair were hit in an active combat zone, but further details are under investigation. In response to a query, the IDF says that it received reports that two members of the UN Department of Safety and Security were hit while driving in the Rafah area. According to a UN spokesman, the pair were driving to the European Hospital in southern Gaza, and that one of the staffers was killed. The IDF says that according to an initial review, the UN vehicle was hit "amid fighting in an area defined as an active combat zone." It says that the vehicle's route was unknown to the military. Normally, the IDF is made aware of aid workers' movement in Gaza to avoid such incidents. Still, the IDF does not confirm its forces fired at the vehicle. "All of the details of the incident are under review," the military adds. View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
The Israeli army took control of the Rafah checkpoint on the Palestinian side:
“Over the last few days alone, we were all reminded why our pursuit against Hamas is vital…” IDF confirms elimination of Hamas terrorist who held the late Corporal Noa Marciano hostage in Gaza: Ground forces work in Gaza: Grieving is a part of being Israeli. We mourn the loss of our friends, family and fellow soldiers who lost their lives defending the state of Israel or in acts of terrorism. Their stories will forever be a part of our history. May their memories be a blessing |
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“It is really important to note that Hamas says they want everyday to be like October 7th…I don’t see how the Israelis have any other option but to destroy Hamas in Rafah…Just yesterday the Israeli Defense Forces did a limited operations in Rafah, destroyed 10 tunnels. This is were Hamas’s leadership is cowering, this is where they are holding the hostages…” - LTG (ret) McMaster, former U.S. National Security Adviser View Quote
Because the evidence of how Hamas acquired more arms per capita than most countries might be revealed? I mean how did Hamas stockpile more weapons than most small countries when it was supposedly under “blockade”? Most small countries aren’t under blockade and can’t afford or stockpile the arsenal Hamas acquired? Where did it all come from? Hint hint. View Quote View Quote
They are rebuilding their capabilities even amidst the war. This is at least the third time the city of Ashkelon has been targeted in the last week. It should be a massive concern that after seven months of war cities in Israel are still being targeted like this with no end in sight and no clear plan and strategy to eradicate Hamas while Israel is also pressured to “wrap up the war”… View Quote View Quote
Hamas can read this headline too, and along with its backers in Ankara, Doha, Moscow and Tehran…it knows it just has to wait a bit…also it knows the longer it waits the more it can exploit this to harm US-Israel ties potentially and isolate Israel…all for a war that Hamas started by carrying out one of the worst massacres of people in a single day in history View Quote View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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IDF says four soldiers seriously wounded on Tuesday in Gaza combat Three combat soldiers from the Paratroopers unit were seriously wounded in combat in northern Gaza, and another combat soldier from the Givati brigade was seriously wounded in combat in southern Gaza, the army said. The paratroopers were wounded during confrontion with Hamas militants, where another five soldiers were moderately wounded. The soldier from Givati was wounded from an explosive device, where four other soldiers were moderately and lightly wounded. View Quote Hamas planned to establish base in Turkey for planning terror attacks against Israeli targets abroad Hamas planned to establish a base in Turkey and use it to plan attacks against Israeli targets in neighboring countries, according to documents seized by Israeli forces from the home of a senior Hamas official in Gaza, which were published in the British Times. According to the documents, titled "Establishing a Base in Turkey", the attacks that were to be planned from this base were destined to be carried out in NATO member states. The documents were seized from the home of Hamza Abu Shanab, Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar's chief of staff. "We propose to establish a security arm abroad, from which we will be able to carry out future intelligence as well as operational operations," the documents state, "there is no avoiding taking major measures to establish military centers that will be used by us for special operations - in this way we will strengthen the resistance forces militarily, diplomatically and morally." The documents indicate that the base was planned, among other things, for "assassinations of Israeli officials, including Mossad officers and commanders, sabotage of Israeli vessels," and a "kidnapping" operation. The documents include a three-year plan to establish bases in other countries according to the model of the base in Turkey, and indicate the sources of funding. It also includes a list of the organization's operatives who were planned to be stationed there, and it is still unclear whether the plan was drawn up before the October 7 attack or after it. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "has reached a level that would make Hitler jealous of his genocidal methods." Erdogan reiterated his position, according to which Hamas is not a terrorist organization but a "resistance movement", and noted that more than 1,000 operatives of the organization are hospitalized in hospitals throughout Turkey. View Quote Israeli tanks push deeper into eastern Rafah, eyewitnesses say Israeli tanks forged deeper into eastern Rafah on Tuesday, reaching some residential districts of the southern border city where more than a million people had been sheltering after being displaced in seven months of war. "The tanks advanced this morning west of Salahuddin Road into the Brzail and Jneina neighbourhoods. They are in the streets inside the built-up area and there are clashes," one resident told Reuters via a chat app. Video on social media showed one tank on George Street in Al-Jneina neighbourhood. Reuters could not verify the video. In a round-up of its activities, the IDF said its forces had eliminated "several armed terrorist" cells in close-quarter fighting on the Gazan side of the Rafah border crossing with Egypt. In the east of the city, it said it had also destroyed militant cells and a launch post from where missiles were being fired at IDF troops. Fighting across the strip has intensified in recent days, including in the north, with the Israeli military heading back into areas where it had claimed to have dismantled Hamas months ago. Israel says the operations are to prevent Hamas, which controls Gaza, from rebuilding it military capacities. View Quote IDF says 15 terrorists killed during strikes on UNRWA school in Nuseirat in Gaza The IDF said that about 15 terrorists were killed during airstrikes on UNRWA school in Nuseirat in central Gaza. The strikes were based on precise intelligence, and that the room that was attacked was used as a combat room and terror base for planning attacks on IDF forces in Gaza. View Quote |
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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According to the IDF, the gunmen were spotted by troops of the Givati Brigade on Saturday at UNRWA's logistics center in eastern Rafah. The video shows the gunmen next to UN vehicles and in the logistics compound itself, which the IDF says is used by the UN body to deliver humanitarian aid. The IDF says one clip also shows a gunman opening fire inside the complex. Following the "unusual event," the military says COGAT representatives "conveyed the findings to senior officials in the international community and called on the UN to investigate the matter urgently." Israel has previously accused UNRWA of enabling Hamas to use its facilities in Gaza for terror. It has also provided evidence that several agency employees are members of terror groups and were involved in the October 7 attack. View Quote Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Biden sent a message to Hamas by releasing this 'private conversation,' senator says |
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An Israeli civilian was killed and five soldiers were wounded in a Hezbollah anti-tank guided missile attack against the northern community of Adamit earlier today. The IDF says one soldier was moderately injured and four others were lightly hurt in the attack. Hezbollah claimed responsibility, saying it targeted military positions in the area. An Israeli civilian near the troops was also wounded, and his death was declared a short while later. He is not immediately named. The IDF says it struck buildings used by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon's Ayta ash-Shab and Kafr Kila in response to the attack. View Quote
Three troops of the Paratroopers Brigade's 202nd Battalion were seriously wounded during a gun battle with operatives in the northern Gaza Strip earlier today, the military announces. Another five troops were moderately hurt in the same battle. Meanwhile, a soldier of the Givati Brigade's Tzabar Battalion was seriously hurt, as a result of an explosive device, in southern Gaza's Rafah this morning, the IDF says. Another five soldiers were lightly and moderately hurt in the same blast. View Quote
An IDF observation balloon was shot down by Hezbollah over the Lebanon border, the military acknowledges. The IDF says the balloon crashed in Lebanon following Hezbollah missile fire. It says there is no fear of information being taken from the sensors and cameras on it. Hezbollah claims responsibility for launching missiles at the balloon and other military positions near the community of Adamit. View Quote |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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