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Posted: 7/2/2022 10:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can hope Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then the hadron collider suddenly disappeared and the earth was slowly swallowed by that newly created black hole and just like that the earth was no more.  Truly the only solution to climate change... is to destroy the Earth! Without an Earth there can be no Climate Change. |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 10:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how big a flash and noise it makes when the particles collide. Has there ever been a camera mounted somewhere in the room when it happened? |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 10:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I started working on the Higgs in 2007 as an undergraduate research assistant. Got pretty good at it and my advisor was middle management at CMS for the Higgs groups so I got lucky. Went to Grad school in 2009 and quickly became the most senior grad student working on the Higgs to 4 lepton channel because of the "oopsie" in 2008 which forced the older grad students waiting on data to graduate to switch back to Tevatron data. I worked my ass off for the next few years and became a player in the Higgs to 4 lepton group at CERN. I was basically the lead analyst for our university since I had been doing it longer than our postdocs. Professors think deep thoughts but don't usually do much of the coding, etc. There are some exceptions. Anyways, I participated in the writing of the discovery paper because of this and there was only like 5-10 of us plus the spokespersons out of 4k in the collaboration so that was pretty cool. After that I bet my career that they wouldn't find anything else new at the LHC in the next 30 years and moved on the become a staff member at a national lab doing things that are more like out of the 1950s  but I get to blow shit up which is always fun no matter how you slice it. Many of us were pretty burned out after 2012. Working 20 hours a day for 6 months every year wears on you. I had my 264 page thesis written by 2013 and graduated as soon as I could which was basically 4.5 years.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @MrHiggs For those of us not familiar with previous threads or the scope of your work, can you provide some background? Thank you but I get to blow shit up which is always fun no matter how you slice it. Many of us were pretty burned out after 2012. Working 20 hours a day for 6 months every year wears on you. I had my 264 page thesis written by 2013 and graduated as soon as I could which was basically 4.5 years.Good to see you MrHiggs. I hope you're getting some healing. Your answer reminds me of this scene from Margin Call 1:30-2:15.  Margin Call (2011) - First Meeting [HD 1080p] (Re-Upload / Audio Fixed) |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 10:43:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's lots of cameras. You see and hear nothing but the vacuum pumps and rack fans. Pretty sure you answered this before, but do the beam dumps make noise when used? Also assume there would be a massive burst of radiation involved too. |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 10:46:22 PM EDT
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Isn’t this how ghostbusters started.
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Posted: 7/2/2022 11:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure you answered this before, but do the beam dumps make noise when used? Also assume there would be a massive burst of radiation involved too. There is a lot of radiation created but the dumps are designed to range it out. Here is a recent article where they pulled a beam dump out. It's cool because you can see the funky pattern the beam leaves so that they can spread the load out as they're dumping it. There would be a lot of thermal energy from the radiation, but mostly local to the beam areas. I doubt there is any noise and definitely none detectable above the sounds of pumps and fans running for the machine. |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 11:39:40 PM EDT
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The Omega Tau podcast recently did an episode on the LHC Beam Dump.
I barely understood half of what they were talking about other than that the thing soaks up several metric fucktons of energy.
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Posted: 7/2/2022 11:48:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2022 11:50:03 PM EDT
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Supercollider? I just met her.
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:23:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe . If they were at LANL recently I probably know them.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: National Lab, huh? Wouldn't per chance be in New Mexico would it? I've got a relative who just retired, worked in the same kind of field. Wonder if you two have met. . If they were at LANL recently I probably know them.My grandfather retired from Sandia. Work there from a little after wwII till late 90's. Still consulted for yrs after. I dig the forest & terrain around Los Alamos. Thanks for being here @MrHiggs. You bring some cool discussion. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:44:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anatoli Bugorski: The Man Who Stuck His Head Inside a Particle Accelerator As a researcher at the Institute for High Energy Physics in Protvino, Russia, Anatoli Bugorski worked with the largest particle accelerator in the Soviet Union, the U-70 synchrotron.[3] On 13 July 1978, Bugorski was checking a malfunctioning piece of equipment when the safety mechanisms failed. Bugorski was leaning over the equipment when he stuck his head in the path of the 76 GeV proton beam. Reportedly, he saw a flash "brighter than a thousand suns" but did not feel any pain.[1] The beam passed through the back of his head, the occipital and temporal lobes of his brain, the left middle ear, and out through the left hand side of his nose. The exposed parts of his head received a local dose of 200,000 to 300,000 roentgens.[3] Bugorski understood the severity of what had happened, but continued working on the malfunctioning equipment, and initially opted not to tell anyone what had happened. link Holy shit! |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:46:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can this solve our city violence? Just sent the troublesome to another dimension and forget they exist. What do you think this place is… |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:53:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/913541562383118875/E5239875697BC43C64EE8C530EEA842D799D2163/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false Hope they drive their Ferrari on the way to start it up. Synchronicities… i was thinking of that game last night.  Out of This World Full Intro |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:00:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:10:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:58:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you think this place is… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can this solve our city violence? Just sent the troublesome to another dimension and forget they exist. What do you think this place is… Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth.
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Posted: 7/3/2022 8:24:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a lot of radiation created but the dumps are designed to range it out. Here is a recent article where they pulled a beam dump out. It's cool because you can see the funky pattern the beam leaves so that they can spread the load out as they're dumping it. There would be a lot of thermal energy from the radiation, but mostly local to the beam areas. I doubt there is any noise and definitely none detectable above the sounds of pumps and fans running for the machine. Forbidden pretzel! Thanks, that was neat. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 8:27:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even lead is mostly empty space between particles. Very few interact in collisions. (I think) That’s right, I have watched the documentary Ant-man. There is plenty of space between particles. 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 8:35:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how big a flash and noise it makes when the particles collide. Has there ever been a camera mounted somewhere in the room when it happened? I’ll have my cell phone video ready to go. 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t this how ghostbusters started. Don’t cross the streams! 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:09:52 AM EDT
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Mr.Higgs
sent you an IM |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:10:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My grandfather retired from Sandia. Work there from a little after wwII till late 90's. Still consulted for yrs after. I dig the forest & terrain around Los Alamos. Thanks for being here @MrHiggs. You bring some cool discussion. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:17:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truly the only solution to climate change... is to destroy the Earth! Without an Earth there can be no Climate Change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then the hadron collider suddenly disappeared and the earth was slowly swallowed by that newly created black hole and just like that the earth was no more. Truly the only solution to climate change... is to destroy the Earth! Without an Earth there can be no Climate Change. Human initiated galactical imbalance. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:21:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It seems like everything really started to go to shit right around the first time they started that thing up... Exactly. They need to reverse the red and black wires and throw the switch, or cross the streams, or something. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:21:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And seeing your join date I’m going to assume you have no clue who at least one of the posters in this thread is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: as i said 99% of people can't fathom what they're doing that includes any theories post here And seeing your join date I’m going to assume you have no clue who at least one of the posters in this thread is. Doesn't sound like he works there anymore |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:22:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: we already have a black hole in our own galaxy we dont need another one Only one *supermassive* black hole. There are smaller black holes too. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:27:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was designed for 14TeV. They hit 13TeV in the las run but we were told after the "oopsie" in 2008 that they would never run all the way up to 14TeV because of the issues with the magnets. They must be getting much more confident in their operations. The CERN machine guys are the best in the world (sorry LB ). Plus they need to get more energy to rule out more SUSY models which they'll be doing for the next 2 decades.Your posts always make me google something to educate myself. I know TeV. I know CERN. I don't know SUSY. Hope you and your kids are doing OK. ETA: This? "However, no supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model have been experimentally verified." |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You want a black hole eating the earth? This is how you get a black hole eating the earth!  Oh thank god |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:38:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is is going to knock us deeper into the Clown Universe? but can it really get worse? |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:40:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems like everything really started to go to shit right around the first time they started that thing up... It was either the hardon collider or Obama, I'm not really sure which. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:42:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your posts always make me google something to educate myself. I know TeV. I know CERN. I don't know SUSY. Hope you and your kids are doing OK. ETA: This? "However, no supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model have been experimentally verified." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was designed for 14TeV. They hit 13TeV in the las run but we were told after the "oopsie" in 2008 that they would never run all the way up to 14TeV because of the issues with the magnets. They must be getting much more confident in their operations. The CERN machine guys are the best in the world (sorry LB ). Plus they need to get more energy to rule out more SUSY models which they'll be doing for the next 2 decades.Your posts always make me google something to educate myself. I know TeV. I know CERN. I don't know SUSY. Hope you and your kids are doing OK. ETA: This? "However, no supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model have been experimentally verified."  Attached FileBasically if you make a simple mathematical extension to the standard model, you can make supersymmetric cousins for every lepton and quark (sleptons and squarks, physicists are so clever). Bosons are a bit more complicated. There are a couple free parameters that set the energy scale for which these super particles should appear so you often see exclusion plots plotted in 2D space where each axis is the mass of a type of supersymmetric particle. Basically the higher we go in energy the more SUSY parameter space we rule out. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:44:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can hope Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then the hadron collider suddenly disappeared and the earth was slowly swallowed by that newly created black hole and just like that the earth was no more. Lol. There was a short story called Implode and Peddle by HB Fife that dealt with a similar set of circumstances; if you can find a reprint of it, it's a pretty good read - sort of a Red Adair meets a Black Hole. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 11:21:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of these days, one of these scientists, at one of these facilities will make a tiny mathematical error with major consequences. Yeah, they'll accidentally release 800 bajillion electron volts of energy which will annihilate 7 air molecules. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can this solve our city violence? Just sent the troublesome to another dimension and forget they exist. What do you think this place is… Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth. There is a conspiracy theory rabbit hole called the “Prison Planet” that dives deep in that one. I think that Tom Cruise religion also has elements of that. Some far out stuff. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SUSY short for supersymmetry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368298/D14EAB79-9384-44ED-9133-F9113DA3D59E_jpe-2440092.JPG Basically if you make a simple mathematical extension to the standard model, you can make supersymmetric cousins for every lepton and quark (sleptons and squarks, physicists are so clever). Bosons are a bit more complicated. There are a couple free parameters that set the energy scale for which these super particles should appear so you often see exclusion plots plotted in 2D space where each axis is the mass of a type of supersymmetric particle. Basically the higher we go in energy the more SUSY parameter space we rule out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It was designed for 14TeV. They hit 13TeV in the las run but we were told after the "oopsie" in 2008 that they would never run all the way up to 14TeV because of the issues with the magnets. They must be getting much more confident in their operations. The CERN machine guys are the best in the world (sorry LB ). Plus they need to get more energy to rule out more SUSY models which they'll be doing for the next 2 decades.Your posts always make me google something to educate myself. I know TeV. I know CERN. I don't know SUSY. Hope you and your kids are doing OK. ETA: This? "However, no supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model have been experimentally verified." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368298/D14EAB79-9384-44ED-9133-F9113DA3D59E_jpe-2440092.JPG Basically if you make a simple mathematical extension to the standard model, you can make supersymmetric cousins for every lepton and quark (sleptons and squarks, physicists are so clever). Bosons are a bit more complicated. There are a couple free parameters that set the energy scale for which these super particles should appear so you often see exclusion plots plotted in 2D space where each axis is the mass of a type of supersymmetric particle. Basically the higher we go in energy the more SUSY parameter space we rule out. So there are Mexican particles? |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 12:51:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is is going to knock us deeper into the Clown Universe? 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth. There's a whole bunch of problems with that theory. Even though variations of it are found in various new age religions. The big one for me is that when an author sits down to imagine an alien society that doesn't have any of our problems they usually wind up creating some kind of hell world that falls apart after a few moments of scrutiny. The Vulcans may have a very good sounding civilization to some fucking nerd who doesn't understand how reality works. But a few moments of considering what an emotionless society would be like reveals it to be something that no sane entity would want to live in. There are many other factors. A big one being that a technologically advanced civilization or really any civilization is probably going to be the result of millennia of Darwinian pressures. There's also this curious element of self loathing in play. People compare current human civilization with Star Trek or various other fictional constructs and they see humanity as pathetic, weak and worthless. But here is the key thing. Those are FICTIONAL constructs! We don't have any actual alien civilizations to compare with. The moment we do everything changes. But for now all we have is fiction and the fever dreams of people who grew up watching the X Files and various shlocky movies. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:02:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a whole bunch of problems with that theory. Even though variations of it are found in various new age religions. The big one for me is that when an author sits down to imagine an alien society that doesn't have any of our problems they usually wind up creating some kind of hell world that falls apart after a few moments of scrutiny. The Vulcans may have a very good sounding civilization to some fucking nerd who doesn't understand how reality works. But a few moments of considering what an emotionless society would be like reveals it to be something that no sane entity would want to live in. There are many other factors. A big one being that a technologically advanced civilization or really any civilization is probably going to be the result of millennia of Darwinian pressures. There's also this curious element of self loathing in play. People compare current human civilization with Star Trek or various other fictional constructs and they see humanity as pathetic, weak and worthless. But here is the key thing. Those are FICTIONAL constructs! We don't have any actual alien civilizations to compare with. The moment we do everything changes. But for now all we have is fiction and the fever dreams of people who grew up watching the X Files and various shlocky movies. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:05:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit...fuckers still alive! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anatoli Bugorski: The Man Who Stuck His Head Inside a Particle Accelerator As a researcher at the Institute for High Energy Physics in Protvino, Russia, Anatoli Bugorski worked with the largest particle accelerator in the Soviet Union, the U-70 synchrotron.[3] On 13 July 1978, Bugorski was checking a malfunctioning piece of equipment when the safety mechanisms failed. Bugorski was leaning over the equipment when he stuck his head in the path of the 76 GeV proton beam. Reportedly, he saw a flash "brighter than a thousand suns" but did not feel any pain.[1] The beam passed through the back of his head, the occipital and temporal lobes of his brain, the left middle ear, and out through the left hand side of his nose. The exposed parts of his head received a local dose of 200,000 to 300,000 roentgens.[3] Bugorski understood the severity of what had happened, but continued working on the malfunctioning equipment, and initially opted not to tell anyone what had happened. link Holy shit...fuckers still alive! And they wouldn't even class him as disabled so that he could get free epilepsy meds. Socialized medicine in a nutshell, right there. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:13:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a whole bunch of problems with that theory. Even though variations of it are found in various new age religions. The big one for me is that when an author sits down to imagine an alien society that doesn't have any of our problems they usually wind up creating some kind of hell world that falls apart after a few moments of scrutiny. The Vulcans may have a very good sounding civilization to some fucking nerd who doesn't understand how reality works. But a few moments of considering what an emotionless society would be like reveals it to be something that no sane entity would want to live in. There are many other factors. A big one being that a technologically advanced civilization or really any civilization is probably going to be the result of millennia of Darwinian pressures. There's also this curious element of self loathing in play. People compare current human civilization with Star Trek or various other fictional constructs and they see humanity as pathetic, weak and worthless. But here is the key thing. Those are FICTIONAL constructs! We don't have any actual alien civilizations to compare with. The moment we do everything changes. But for now all we have is fiction and the fever dreams of people who grew up watching the X Files and various shlocky movies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth. There's a whole bunch of problems with that theory. Even though variations of it are found in various new age religions. The big one for me is that when an author sits down to imagine an alien society that doesn't have any of our problems they usually wind up creating some kind of hell world that falls apart after a few moments of scrutiny. The Vulcans may have a very good sounding civilization to some fucking nerd who doesn't understand how reality works. But a few moments of considering what an emotionless society would be like reveals it to be something that no sane entity would want to live in. There are many other factors. A big one being that a technologically advanced civilization or really any civilization is probably going to be the result of millennia of Darwinian pressures. There's also this curious element of self loathing in play. People compare current human civilization with Star Trek or various other fictional constructs and they see humanity as pathetic, weak and worthless. But here is the key thing. Those are FICTIONAL constructs! We don't have any actual alien civilizations to compare with. The moment we do everything changes. But for now all we have is fiction and the fever dreams of people who grew up watching the X Files and various shlocky movies. You've got to remember, re star trek, is that the fan community is such that in TNG they added a character whos job is to explain how feelings work and who has the supernatural ability to identify what feelings someone else is having. When you consider that, it's easy to see why all of the social constructs in the show are completely dysfunctional. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:26:14 PM EDT
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I think I saw that machine in Stranger Things…
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHeadcrabs. It's always Headcrabs. 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 1:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So there are Mexican particles? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It was designed for 14TeV. They hit 13TeV in the las run but we were told after the "oopsie" in 2008 that they would never run all the way up to 14TeV because of the issues with the magnets. They must be getting much more confident in their operations. The CERN machine guys are the best in the world (sorry LB ). Plus they need to get more energy to rule out more SUSY models which they'll be doing for the next 2 decades.Your posts always make me google something to educate myself. I know TeV. I know CERN. I don't know SUSY. Hope you and your kids are doing OK. ETA: This? "However, no supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Model have been experimentally verified." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368298/D14EAB79-9384-44ED-9133-F9113DA3D59E_jpe-2440092.JPG Basically if you make a simple mathematical extension to the standard model, you can make supersymmetric cousins for every lepton and quark (sleptons and squarks, physicists are so clever). Bosons are a bit more complicated. There are a couple free parameters that set the energy scale for which these super particles should appear so you often see exclusion plots plotted in 2D space where each axis is the mass of a type of supersymmetric particle. Basically the higher we go in energy the more SUSY parameter space we rule out. So there are Mexican particles? |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 2:26:40 PM EDT
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“I must warn you Gingy….you are tampering with forces far beyond your comprehension!” - Scared Shrekless
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Posted: 7/3/2022 2:43:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing is we call the potential from spontaneous symmetry breaking that gives rise to the Higgs, the Mexican hat potential "Without spontaneous symmetry breaking, the Standard Model of elementary particle interactions requires the existence of a number of particles. However, some particles (the W and Z bosons) would then be predicted to be massless, when, in reality, they are observed to have mass. To overcome this, spontaneous symmetry breaking is augmented by the Higgs mechanism to give these particles mass. It also suggests the presence of a new particle, the Higgs boson, detected in 2012." Cool! |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 2:48:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This or clown world intensifying… My money’s on clown shit going up to 11 Clownraiser dimension. We have such honks to show you. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 2:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The old guys are always fun to talk to. They knew what they were doing (most of them anyways). I've seen several of the old guys that were left pass away in the last 8 years. There's very few left that we're even around in the 80s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My grandfather retired from Sandia. Work there from a little after wwII till late 90's. Still consulted for yrs after. I dig the forest & terrain around Los Alamos. Thanks for being here @MrHiggs. You bring some cool discussion. Yeah, my Grandpop died with the last 6 yrs. Doubt anyone remembers him though. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 3:53:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2022 4:18:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth.  |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 6:44:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might be the delirium but I just had a crazy thought pop in my head. What if there are a certain amount of souls in the universe and another planet figured out that they can control where the troubled go by making the worst people breed here on Earth to suck up the bad souls that are available. Thereby preventing the worst from being born on their planet. That's why our leaders basically subsidize the poor, dumb, and evil to keep having more and more babies. Our leaders are paid off by or just from the other planet. The entire goal being to consolidate the worst souls onto this hell known as Earth. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93097/6loex0-2440477.jpg No shit? Never heard that part of scientology before |
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