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What are your thoughts on CA, specifically redrawing rights and them supplementing with desalination plants?
I know they have built about 5, with one in Huntington Beach.

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Are you sure? Have you recently checked?

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If your job gives you a pay cut, opening more savings accounts won't magically create you more money.

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I'm not some greenie weenie.

What will the continuous addition of brine to the Pacific ocean do to the salinity levels of it?  Yes, I realize the Pacific is HUGE.  Still maybe worth note or study I'd think.

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If your job gives you a pay cut, opening more savings accounts won't magically create you more money.

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Stop building giant cities, suburbs, and golf courses in the desert?

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Just what it says

There will be millions of people that will have to relocate due to lack of water. Presumably they will go where water is available.

It will start with people having family or friends in non drought areas and packing up the family truckster much like our ancestors loaded up the wagons during the dust bowl.

The smart ones will get out before the rush (mass migration).

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Let's get this out of the way first, all this talk about water supply is nothing but hot air, NOT a thing will happen until the water stops flowing, only then will something happen.

The original water allotment numbers were flawed due to bad data and everything since then is built on this house of cards.

And like others have stated, desalination is  a option but it's expensive and then you have the discharge brine stream, what if California added a huge amount of desalination plants (not that the tree huggers would allow that) what effect would a large number of brine discharges along the California coast do to the marine life?

Here on the rock we have 2 options for water if you need your cisterns filled due to low rainfall. Well water ?? or desalinated water from WAPA

The desalinated water is more than $100 more expensive per truck load than the same amount of well water. And the last truck I ordered to fill my pool with well water after repairs with 5500 gallons  of water was $330

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At this rate there will be a mass water refuge migration the likes of which this country has never seen.

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And has that desalination plant destroyed the marine life around the Virgin Islands?

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Too many people, way too many.

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All climate change bullshit aside the life supporting capacity of an area of land is a thing. Depopulate the area voluntarily, bring in more outside water, or nature will depopulate the area involuntarily.

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How deep is that B-29 now?

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"Illegals" aren't the ones getting permits to build, or buy tens of thousands of new homes "starting in the mid-600K's" in zero-lot-line developments in NV or CA .....

The answer is to always follow the money ........ developers are nothing but locusts....they don't give a fuck if there is a sustainable water source .... by the time it runs out, they'll be ruining someplace else, or dead

Google "Lynda and Stewart Resnick" if you want to know why we are here......

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Unlikely.  They will probably just force farmers out of business which will create more than enough water for the cities.   Farmng in a drought in the desert is kindof THE problem.   We'll have to import more food.

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Part of the solution is more reservoirs in nor cal and central California to capture more winter runoff then use that to irrigate.

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California has a very long coastline and access to more water than most states.  They have chosen to NOT have desalination plant.  There are over 20,000 desalination plants around the world, and CA has failed to address their own water concerns repeatedly - due to failed political mindsets that ALWAYS make things worse.  

Build some desalination plants and some nuclear power plants.  Ca could be energy independent and water independent.  They could even be an exporter of both, and help others in need.  Make CA great again.  While at it, manage the forests better, and quit having all these fires that ruin the woodlands, kill people, destroy homes, and contribute so much pollution to the environment.

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California is the 400lb gorilla on the Colorado, the compact was written with the expectation that they would be a super state so the largest share was granted to them to support their anticipated economy.  California will eventually need to invest in significantly more desal capacity, the recent proposal that was shot down was mostly done so because the water it would have generates is significantly more expensive than anything they have access to. For the time being that can has been kicked down the road. I think it costs about $50-$100/acre ft to deliver Colorado river water, the proposed Desal plant in Huntington beach was going to be like $1,200/ acre ft, so nobody really wants to see water bills go up 10x and that meant none of the water purveyors in the area wanted to have to get water from that plant it's currently too expensive. Some day the economics may change.

Redrawing rights is kind of touchy, someday we may come to that and hopefully Nevada  will get a slightly larger share than the pittance we currently have access to. Desal will likely play a more significant role, as well as direct potable reuse (which is the least popular solution) until that time the lower basin states will continue to make due, currently there is an agreement based on a handful of thresholds, NV and AZ give up access to a percentage (the first tier is 15%) Nevada was ahead of the curve on that one, since 2000 conservation efforts have reduced our consumptive use by a little more that that 15% so we hit that curtailment in stride, while California would panic and mandate no lawn watering at all we were able to pass that with no drama and business as "usual".

California is the slowest one to the game with respect to conservation but they're starting to take it seriously and if the next threshold based on Lake Mead elevation is reached they may have no choice because the river will be running onto conditions where there allocation won't be delivered.

Arizona is starting to step up with conservation also and looking at many of the plays in the Las Vegas Playbook.

Las Vegas so far has removed considerable turf through a turf removal program where a portion of the water from water bill is spent on conservation efforts, like a rebate for turf removal, we had a rebate for pool covers that reduce evaporation by 90% but that may have ended due to limited participation. We're now addressing "non-functional turf" the grass in medians and corporate landscaping that is 100% ornamental, We're working on efforts to improve water efficiency in the number two consumptive use which is commercial air conditioning. I think it passed where no Colorado river water will be allowed to be used for irrigation on any new golf courses, so if builders want to make another one they'll have to buy groundwater rights which are basically locked at the current amount for the basin.

Las Vegas has also managed to stretch the water budget by employing a watering schedule that changes with the seasons, one day a week during the winter, three days a week spring and fall, and 6 days a week in the summer, no water on Sundays, that measure coupled with awareness has been huge on the conservation front, with the current situation we're also stepping up efforts to curtail water waste with mechanisms in place to alert people if their irrigation equipment is broken or spraying on the street, first few instances are purely notifications, any kind of fine comes later.

Las Vegas gets about 10% of their water from groundwater and a network of municipal wells that supply is based on perennial yield of basin which is set at the amount for natural recharge. Las Vegas also has about a year's worth of water stored in the ground, and  two or three years worth of water stored in the ground in Arizona. The water banked in Las Vegas can be accessed through municipal wells that have the capacity to withdraw two or three times the current amount so we could supply 20 to 25% of Vegas's needs from wells alone, and if we decide to draw on the Arizona banked water then Arizona takes that water from the ground where it was banked and we take our portion from Lake Mead.

Las Vegas also recently finished an intake and low lake level pump station that allows Vegas access to the Colorado even if the lake reaches "Dead Pool" or the 850ft elevation where no water can get out through the dam. At that elevation the storage alone is equal to 10 years of Las Vegas's supply and Arizona and California's intakes are all downstream of the dam.  

Las Vegas has also entered an agreement to partially fund a direct potable reuse plant in southern California (doesn't require blessing from the coastal coalition) the capacity we subsidized in that plant is done in exchange for a portion of California's Colorado river allocation Looks like 25-30,000 acre ft

If ti ever gets close to dead pool on Lake Mead, i'm sure at that point there will be a lot of push for re-allocation but until that time Las Vegas is on the mutherfucker to make sure needs are met.

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I just checked my water bill and I'm using about 250 gallons per day and I'm not trying to conserve anything.  My shower has three shower heads and I take my time.

So I'd have to pay $2.50 per day for water from a Desal plant in that situation and that's without even attempting to conserve water?  Oh, the horror.  

Also, sounds like Californian's are getting a good deal on their water.  Maybe too good of a deal considering the gravity of their situation.  I'm paying $5 per 1000 gallons right now here in Michigan.

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I just checked my water bill and I'm using about 250 gallons per day and I'm not trying to conserve anything.  My shower has three shower heads and I take my time.

So I'd have to pay $2.50 per day for water from a Desal plant in that situation and that's without even attempting to conserve water?  Oh, the horror.  

Also, sounds like Californian's are getting a good deal on their water.  Maybe too good of a deal considering the gravity of their situation.  I'm paying $5 per 1000 gallons right now here in Michigan.

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If they (illegals) weren't here there wouldn't be the need for all the extra homes would there?

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Sure, most of you already knew that.  I remember the first time I visited Vegas in 2008 you could see the water regression lines. What is the long term solution to this ?  

If you go to “Sin City Outdoors” YouTube channel they have some great videos.