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Posted: 11/19/2017 5:48:40 PM EDT
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What? They only average about $100 million a year in PD related lawsuit payouts.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope the tax payers taxes go up big for this. Once the taxpayers realize their taxes went up because they voted for fucking idiots that hire idiots, maybe they'll think before voting next time. Look at NYC.  |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 5:56:46 PM EDT
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Never happens. Look at NYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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sue big I hope the tax payers taxes go up big for this. once the taxpayers realize their taxes went up because they voted for fucking idiots that hire idiots, maybe they'll think before voting next time. Look at NYC. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:35:17 PM EDT
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Never happens. Look at NYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:37:12 PM EDT
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The new city council local to me....voted in after officer fuckup's numerous civil rights suits, is looking to disband the agency and sell off its assets. The local S/O can do it cheaper, better and with 100% less civil rights violations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:44:58 PM EDT
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Varnell, Ga., police officers are returning from the road this morning and handing in their equipment after the city council voted 3-1 to immediately disband the department this morning.
Lieut. Greg Fowler said he was told to spend the day collecting all of the police department's materials and locking them up in city hall. After that, all of the officers are off duty for the foreseeable future. City Attorney Terry Miller said administrators have called the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office, informing them that they will now need to take over the area. ADVERTISING This morning's special called meeting was advertised to discuss the employment of Chief Lyle Grant, who was suspended after arresting a councilman in June. Elected officials wanted to know if he properly handled the case. Grant and Fowler went to the home of Councilman Shane Fowler, who is not related to the city's lieutenant. Shane Fowler's wife had complained that he was drunk and loud inside the house. According to a police report, Shane Fowler yelled at the officers and poked them in the chest. About nine days later, an officer took out a warrant for his arrest. Grant said the long delay occurred for a couple reasons. First, he wanted an independent investigator to review the evidence -- which really was just the officers' statements. Second, Grant said he brought the evidence to the mayor and other council members before deciding whether to charge Shane Fowler. Councilman David Owens felt this was an odd way to handle an investigation. The council then suspended Grant last month. They wanted the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to review the case and see if Grant acted appropriately. But the GBI does not review policies; it investigates crime. This morning, after an executive session meeting, the council decided to reinstate Grant. Minutes later, Councilman Jan Pourquoi made a motion to disband the police department immediately. Owens seconded the motion, and Andrea Gordy voted in favor, ending the department with a 3-1 note. Councilwoman Ashlee Godfrey voted against the measure. Miller said he did not come to the meeting prepared for this vote and needs to research some legal issues. For starters, were they allowed to have a vote like this at a called meeting when it wasn't explicitly advertised? Also, what happens with Grant, who was under contract through the end of this year? "There are a number of legal issues that have to be examined," Miller said. After the meeting, a part-time detective parked in front of city hall. He came to drop off some equipment after reading in a Facebook post that his job no longer existed. "For a city to get rid of his police department," he said, "is absolutely crazy." He declined to give his name. Interesting state you live in there. 
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:48:38 PM EDT
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Dumbfuck cop. Hope that old couple gets paid. Normally a huge LEO supporter, but that guy defnitely sounds like a bad apple. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:55:48 PM EDT
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
@chadjetlag Varnell, Ga., police officers are returning from the road this morning and handing in their equipment after the city council voted 3-1 to immediately disband the department this morning.
Lieut. Greg Fowler said he was told to spend the day collecting all of the police department's materials and locking them up in city hall. After that, all of the officers are off duty for the foreseeable future. City Attorney Terry Miller said administrators have called the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office, informing them that they will now need to take over the area. ADVERTISING This morning's special called meeting was advertised to discuss the employment of Chief Lyle Grant, who was suspended after arresting a councilman in June. Elected officials wanted to know if he properly handled the case. Grant and Fowler went to the home of Councilman Shane Fowler, who is not related to the city's lieutenant. Shane Fowler's wife had complained that he was drunk and loud inside the house. According to a police report, Shane Fowler yelled at the officers and poked them in the chest. About nine days later, an officer took out a warrant for his arrest. Grant said the long delay occurred for a couple reasons. First, he wanted an independent investigator to review the evidence -- which really was just the officers' statements. Second, Grant said he brought the evidence to the mayor and other council members before deciding whether to charge Shane Fowler. Councilman David Owens felt this was an odd way to handle an investigation. The council then suspended Grant last month. They wanted the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to review the case and see if Grant acted appropriately. But the GBI does not review policies; it investigates crime. This morning, after an executive session meeting, the council decided to reinstate Grant. Minutes later, Councilman Jan Pourquoi made a motion to disband the police department immediately. Owens seconded the motion, and Andrea Gordy voted in favor, ending the department with a 3-1 note. Councilwoman Ashlee Godfrey voted against the measure. Miller said he did not come to the meeting prepared for this vote and needs to research some legal issues. For starters, were they allowed to have a vote like this at a called meeting when it wasn't explicitly advertised? Also, what happens with Grant, who was under contract through the end of this year? "There are a number of legal issues that have to be examined," Miller said. After the meeting, a part-time detective parked in front of city hall. He came to drop off some equipment after reading in a Facebook post that his job no longer existed. "For a city to get rid of his police department," he said, "is absolutely crazy." He declined to give his name. Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 6:57:39 PM EDT
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That's not the agency I am referring to but yes...law enforcement in GA can be really screwy. The little shitsburg municipal agencies really act as tax collectors for the town they represent. It is not uncommon for them to make up charges to cite folks for. There are many areas of GA covered by Georgia State Patrol, A county PD, A county SO, and a city pd. It is overkill, most aren't paid well which attracts shit candidates, many aren't trained well, pressure is applied to create revenue and you get predictable outcomes come from it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag Varnell, Ga., police officers are returning from the road this morning and handing in their equipment after the city council voted 3-1 to immediately disband the department this morning.
Lieut. Greg Fowler said he was told to spend the day collecting all of the police department's materials and locking them up in city hall. After that, all of the officers are off duty for the foreseeable future. City Attorney Terry Miller said administrators have called the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office, informing them that they will now need to take over the area. ADVERTISING This morning's special called meeting was advertised to discuss the employment of Chief Lyle Grant, who was suspended after arresting a councilman in June. Elected officials wanted to know if he properly handled the case. Grant and Fowler went to the home of Councilman Shane Fowler, who is not related to the city's lieutenant. Shane Fowler's wife had complained that he was drunk and loud inside the house. According to a police report, Shane Fowler yelled at the officers and poked them in the chest. About nine days later, an officer took out a warrant for his arrest. Grant said the long delay occurred for a couple reasons. First, he wanted an independent investigator to review the evidence -- which really was just the officers' statements. Second, Grant said he brought the evidence to the mayor and other council members before deciding whether to charge Shane Fowler. Councilman David Owens felt this was an odd way to handle an investigation. The council then suspended Grant last month. They wanted the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to review the case and see if Grant acted appropriately. But the GBI does not review policies; it investigates crime. This morning, after an executive session meeting, the council decided to reinstate Grant. Minutes later, Councilman Jan Pourquoi made a motion to disband the police department immediately. Owens seconded the motion, and Andrea Gordy voted in favor, ending the department with a 3-1 note. Councilwoman Ashlee Godfrey voted against the measure. Miller said he did not come to the meeting prepared for this vote and needs to research some legal issues. For starters, were they allowed to have a vote like this at a called meeting when it wasn't explicitly advertised? Also, what happens with Grant, who was under contract through the end of this year? "There are a number of legal issues that have to be examined," Miller said. After the meeting, a part-time detective parked in front of city hall. He came to drop off some equipment after reading in a Facebook post that his job no longer existed. "For a city to get rid of his police department," he said, "is absolutely crazy." He declined to give his name. Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:05:23 PM EDT
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Not to defend the twat cop, but some growers attach large colorful flowers to their cannabis plants to disguise them. For example ... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/257358/Screenshot_20171118-220427-367080.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it were earlier in the season, the mistake between cannabis and Kenaf would have been forgivable. However, since the Hibiscus was flowering at the time, any "drug expert" should have known better. Immediately. Fire him instantly, pay the couple, and vet your drug "experts" a little better. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/257358/Screenshot_20171118-220427-367080.JPG Clearly we must ban toys and VFW poppies. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:05:55 PM EDT
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@chadjetlag Varnell, Ga., police officers are returning from the road this morning and handing in their equipment after the city council voted 3-1 to immediately disband the department this morning.
Lieut. Greg Fowler said he was told to spend the day collecting all of the police department's materials and locking them up in city hall. After that, all of the officers are off duty for the foreseeable future. City Attorney Terry Miller said administrators have called the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office, informing them that they will now need to take over the area. ADVERTISING This morning's special called meeting was advertised to discuss the employment of Chief Lyle Grant, who was suspended after arresting a councilman in June. Elected officials wanted to know if he properly handled the case. Grant and Fowler went to the home of Councilman Shane Fowler, who is not related to the city's lieutenant. Shane Fowler's wife had complained that he was drunk and loud inside the house. According to a police report, Shane Fowler yelled at the officers and poked them in the chest. About nine days later, an officer took out a warrant for his arrest. Grant said the long delay occurred for a couple reasons. First, he wanted an independent investigator to review the evidence -- which really was just the officers' statements. Second, Grant said he brought the evidence to the mayor and other council members before deciding whether to charge Shane Fowler. Councilman David Owens felt this was an odd way to handle an investigation. The council then suspended Grant last month. They wanted the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to review the case and see if Grant acted appropriately. But the GBI does not review policies; it investigates crime. This morning, after an executive session meeting, the council decided to reinstate Grant. Minutes later, Councilman Jan Pourquoi made a motion to disband the police department immediately. Owens seconded the motion, and Andrea Gordy voted in favor, ending the department with a 3-1 note. Councilwoman Ashlee Godfrey voted against the measure. Miller said he did not come to the meeting prepared for this vote and needs to research some legal issues. For starters, were they allowed to have a vote like this at a called meeting when it wasn't explicitly advertised? Also, what happens with Grant, who was under contract through the end of this year? "There are a number of legal issues that have to be examined," Miller said. After the meeting, a part-time detective parked in front of city hall. He came to drop off some equipment after reading in a Facebook post that his job no longer existed. "For a city to get rid of his police department," he said, "is absolutely crazy." He declined to give his name. Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:41:10 PM EDT
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Actual body cam footage
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:51:24 PM EDT
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:53:32 PM EDT
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Never happens. Look at NYC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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sue big I hope the tax payers taxes go up big for this. once the taxpayers realize their taxes went up because they voted for fucking idiots that hire idiots, maybe they'll think before voting next time. Look at NYC. When taxes go up they never say "we squandered the money that was supposed to be spent on utilities and infrastructure so we need to raise taxes" They just state the things that are needed that taxes are already supposed to pay for, nobody ever questions where the taxes really go. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:57:24 PM EDT
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I was about to laugh my ass off at this story, because all the hibiscus plants I've ever seen had big broad teardrop shaped leaves like this... https://www.bikemaui.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/amazonia-hibiscus.jpg But damn that one you posted really does look a lot like the good stuff. I could definitely see someone being fooled by that, I've got several hibiscus plants in my yard right now and I had no idea a variety like that existed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Apparently, theres a type of hybiscus called "Hibiscus cannabinus" or Kenaf that does look like cannabis. Picture of it-- https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=Af513d967356c0823dd4e7953c1636f21&w=300&h=200&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=1.25&pid=1.7 Though, the self professed expert should easily be able to tell the two apart. https://www.bikemaui.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/amazonia-hibiscus.jpg But damn that one you posted really does look a lot like the good stuff. I could definitely see someone being fooled by that, I've got several hibiscus plants in my yard right now and I had no idea a variety like that existed. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 7:58:09 PM EDT
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I guess it's better that towns of 1,400 have their own police departments. Who handles IA complaints when the chief is doing patrol shifts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 8:17:13 PM EDT
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How big is their agency? What type of complaint? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 8:45:08 PM EDT
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In the case of the city you posted the article for they have five full time officers (including Chief Lyle making $24.52 an hour) and 1.25 FTEs worth of part timers at $13/hr. How about excessive force. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 8:51:04 PM EDT
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Well, the Chief could handle the IA complaints with a department that size. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 8:54:35 PM EDT
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How independent. And that works as long as he wasn't on the call too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. Maybe our resident GA member can chime in. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 8:58:39 PM EDT
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The police issued a statement on the arrest “I AM THE LAW!!!”
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:02:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the case of the city you posted the article for they have five full time officers (including Chief Lyle making $24.52 an hour) and 1.25 FTEs worth of part timers at $13/hr. How about excessive force. 
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:03:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:18:55 PM EDT
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My wife has a big fucking Texas Star Hibiscus in front of our house, I've begged her to get rid of it before some over eager JBT kicked the fucking door in over it, I'll show her this article. Aside from the flowers which don't last very long, Texas Star Hibiscus looks very similar to a scrawny pot plant. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:49:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:55:07 PM EDT
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War on drugs!! WOOHOO!! |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 11:04:56 PM EDT
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. Maybe our resident GA member can chime in. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 11:15:12 PM EDT
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Did you ever see Enus arrest Roscoe for his criminal actions in the Dukes of Hazzard? It's pretty much like that unless they kill/severely maim someone and can't sweep it under the carpet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. How about excessive force. Maybe our resident GA member can chime in. Got it. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 11:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the lawyers don't want that. I'd rather the cop go to jail for violating their civil rights than see them be paid (other than actual damages). |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 11:25:40 PM EDT
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My wife has a big fucking Texas Star Hibiscus in front of our house, I've begged her to get rid of it before some over eager JBT kicked the fucking door in over it, I'll show her this article. Aside from the flowers which don't last very long, Texas Star Hibiscus looks very similar to a scrawny pot plant. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 11:28:09 PM EDT
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@chadjetlag http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2017/jul/11/varnell-city-council-dissolves-police-department/437701/ Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
@chadjetlag Varnell, Ga., police officers are returning from the road this morning and handing in their equipment after the city council voted 3-1 to immediately disband the department this morning.
Lieut. Greg Fowler said he was told to spend the day collecting all of the police department's materials and locking them up in city hall. After that, all of the officers are off duty for the foreseeable future. City Attorney Terry Miller said administrators have called the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office, informing them that they will now need to take over the area. ADVERTISING This morning's special called meeting was advertised to discuss the employment of Chief Lyle Grant, who was suspended after arresting a councilman in June. Elected officials wanted to know if he properly handled the case. Grant and Fowler went to the home of Councilman Shane Fowler, who is not related to the city's lieutenant. Shane Fowler's wife had complained that he was drunk and loud inside the house. According to a police report, Shane Fowler yelled at the officers and poked them in the chest. About nine days later, an officer took out a warrant for his arrest. Grant said the long delay occurred for a couple reasons. First, he wanted an independent investigator to review the evidence -- which really was just the officers' statements. Second, Grant said he brought the evidence to the mayor and other council members before deciding whether to charge Shane Fowler. Councilman David Owens felt this was an odd way to handle an investigation. The council then suspended Grant last month. They wanted the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to review the case and see if Grant acted appropriately. But the GBI does not review policies; it investigates crime. This morning, after an executive session meeting, the council decided to reinstate Grant. Minutes later, Councilman Jan Pourquoi made a motion to disband the police department immediately. Owens seconded the motion, and Andrea Gordy voted in favor, ending the department with a 3-1 note. Councilwoman Ashlee Godfrey voted against the measure. Miller said he did not come to the meeting prepared for this vote and needs to research some legal issues. For starters, were they allowed to have a vote like this at a called meeting when it wasn't explicitly advertised? Also, what happens with Grant, who was under contract through the end of this year? "There are a number of legal issues that have to be examined," Miller said. After the meeting, a part-time detective parked in front of city hall. He came to drop off some equipment after reading in a Facebook post that his job no longer existed. "For a city to get rid of his police department," he said, "is absolutely crazy." He declined to give his name. Interesting state you live in there.
We don't have county police (Except for 1 county IIRC) here in NJ. But if a town called up the State Police and said "You are covering from this day forward", you could hear the laughter all the way from Trenton. 
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