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Link Posted: 9/10/2020 12:48:42 PM EDT
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I shot one owned by @buck19delta. Was expecting a worm hole to open up upon squeezing the trigger. Big pile of meh. I mean, it’s fuckin sweet but I was expecting.....more.

I also have a 375 H&H that I’ve fired some stout safari loads through so there’s that. Maybe it was because of the load? The Hornady flex tip rounds or whatever they’re called.
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Depends on the load.  Trapdoor and cowboy loads feel like plinking.  Great fun.  You'll feel LeveRevolution and many other hunting loads and probably not be tempted to fire more than a handful.  Shoot some Garrett cartridges and you might decide to fight the next bear instead.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 1:12:05 PM EDT
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Thanks a lot, man. I had no idea I needed to order ANOTHER gun right now.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 1:22:10 PM EDT
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iv got a dark series 30/30. want a dark series threaded 44 mag next.

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Quigly Down under
Original Springfield Trapdoor

405 grain goodness
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 4:27:47 PM EDT
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FYI- If you reload, reusing FTX brass after it’s been fired will be too short. You will have to save the shorter brass for FTX bullets only.



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FYI- If you reload, reusing FTX brass after it’s been fired will be too short. You will have to save the shorter brass for FTX bullets only.



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Or seat bullets shallower for the same internal volume. Doesn't work so well with jacketed but it's fine with cast.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 4:48:42 PM EDT
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Or seat bullets shallower for the same internal volume. Doesn't work so well with jacketed but it's fine with cast.
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Just keep them segregated for the crimp's sake. That's really the only problem in straight wall cases.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 6:39:49 PM EDT
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It ain't much, but it's mine and I love it. Just had to post it.

Link Posted: 9/10/2020 6:50:14 PM EDT
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- is an original Springfield "trap door" and should only be loaded with cast lead bullets and either black powder (or if you really know what you are doing) a reduced substitute load.  It goes without saying it should first be checked by a gunsmith; most owners don't shoot their trapdoors anymore.  Rolling blocks are slightly stronger - but probably not many left in shootable condition.

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Link Posted: 9/10/2020 6:54:57 PM EDT
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It ain't much, but it's mine and I love it. Just had to post it.

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Post details, I love trapdoors.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 6:57:58 PM EDT
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Post details, I love trapdoors.
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Yes
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:24:42 PM EDT
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There is a 450 Marlin JM model for sale near me for $800, is there any major difference between this and the 45-70 ?
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:40:23 PM EDT
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It's a belted rimless version, I believe it is slightly shorter but is effectively the same thing. Since it can't be used in any weaker gun, mainstream factory ammo is loaded hotter than 45/70 is.
OK, .005 shorter. I looked it up.

500 S&W Magnum vs 45-70 vs 450 Marlin
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:44:33 PM EDT
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Some medium 300 grain Sierras in nickel Starline brass I loaded for my GBL.

Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:53:33 PM EDT
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The 45-70 at two miles.

Fun stuff from army testing. Could hit a 6 foot circle at 2,500 yards.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:54:45 PM EDT
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[I was wrong

Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:56:03 PM EDT
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I have the GBL, cause I like black guns...

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nice
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 7:56:15 PM EDT
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It ain't much, but it's mine and I love it. Just had to post it.

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That’s a lot!  Shoot it much?
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 8:28:31 PM EDT
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Or seat bullets shallower for the same internal volume. Doesn't work so well with jacketed but it's fine with cast.



Just keep them segregated for the crimp's sake. That's really the only problem in straight wall cases.

Good point too.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 8:29:08 PM EDT
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It ain't much, but it's mine and I love it. Just had to post it.

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Ain't much? Hell of a lot of history there, I'd love it too.
ETA-here's my Marlin, and the deer I killed with it. Not a monster, but my first antlered buck, shot with a homemade bullet the first hour of the first season in 50 years or more that Iowa allowed rifles.

His head is on the wall. Youth season opens in a little over a week. My daughter wants a buck, bigger than mine. She thinks if she gets one hers can go up and mine comes down.  Yeah, she got competitive after she got a doe last year.
Link Posted: 9/10/2020 8:31:28 PM EDT
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I have been bit by the 45-70 bug for awhile, problem is finding one local has become imposable same with a 44mag lever action.

I will find one tho.

Link Posted: 9/10/2020 8:37:17 PM EDT
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I have been bit by the 45-70 bug for awhile, problem is finding one local has become imposable same with a 44mag lever action.

I will find one tho.

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@1shott, the LGS where I bought my Enfield shown above has a new Marlin 1895G for $699, and I think he ships. More than willing to take a look at it for you and put you in touch with him.
Link Posted: 9/11/2020 12:13:40 AM EDT
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@1shott, the LGS where I bought my Enfield shown above has a new Marlin 1895G for $699, and I think he ships. More than willing to take a look at it for you and put you in touch with him.
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Thank you @shack357 for the offer.

This will sound odd but I need to hold one and shoulder it to see how it feels before I commit, hope it makes sense. I would hate to pay for one, have it shipped in and the length of pull not be comfortable or the weight of the rifle and balance when shouldered not feel right.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 5:08:09 PM EDT
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My 1863 Sharps Cavalry carbine in 45-70 has arrived!

Link Posted: 9/16/2020 5:22:01 PM EDT
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Thank you @shack357 for the offer.

This will sound odd but I need to hold one and shoulder it to see how it feels before I commit, hope it makes sense. I would hate to pay for one, have it shipped in and the length of pull not be comfortable or the weight of the rifle and balance when shouldered not feel right.
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@1shott, the LGS where I bought my Enfield shown above has a new Marlin 1895G for $699, and I think he ships. More than willing to take a look at it for you and put you in touch with him.



Thank you @shack357 for the offer.

This will sound odd but I need to hold one and shoulder it to see how it feels before I commit, hope it makes sense. I would hate to pay for one, have it shipped in and the length of pull not be comfortable or the weight of the rifle and balance when shouldered not feel right.

No worries, I'm always looking for another one and figured I'd mention it. I think my next .45-70 is gonna be a BFR.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 5:51:10 PM EDT
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I have the GBL, cause I like black guns...

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That belt looks like it would need suspenders to hold it up!

Had a H&R Shikari back in the day. Someone had replaced the plastic trigger guard and barrel band with brass copies.
I never loaded for it because I had read about the weak receivers. I sold it and got a Ruger #1. I had 7 boxes of brass from the H&R to load.
The #1 has never had a factory round through it. I load 400gr Speers at 1920.
That Shikari was beautiful. I kick myself at least once a week for selling it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 7:48:04 PM EDT
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That belt looks like it would need suspenders to hold it up!

Had a H&R Shikari back in the day. Someone had replaced the plastic trigger guard and barrel band with brass copies.
I never loaded for it because I had read about the weak receivers. I sold it and got a Ruger #1. I had 7 boxes of brass from the H&R to load.
The #1 has never had a factory round through it. I load 400gr Speers at 1920.
That Shikari was beautiful. I kick myself at least once a week for selling it.
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I have the GBL, cause I like black guns...

https://i.imgur.com/Kpp0agJ.jpg

That belt looks like it would need suspenders to hold it up!

Had a H&R Shikari back in the day. Someone had replaced the plastic trigger guard and barrel band with brass copies.
I never loaded for it because I had read about the weak receivers. I sold it and got a Ruger #1. I had 7 boxes of brass from the H&R to load.
The #1 has never had a factory round through it. I load 400gr Speers at 1920.
That Shikari was beautiful. I kick myself at least once a week for selling it.

Weak receivers? I thought the H&R receivers were almost as strong as the Rugers? I know when I had one, I saw some ammo listed that said "Use only in..." and the H&R was on that list.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 8:18:26 PM EDT
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I decided to turn my 1895 .45-70 into a 12.5” SBR.
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I decided to turn my 1895 .45-70 into a 12.5” SBR.
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Looks brutal. I love it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2020 10:39:17 PM EDT
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My 1863 Sharps Cavalry carbine in 45-70 has arrived!

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Link Posted: 9/17/2020 12:09:38 AM EDT
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I decided to turn my 1895 .45-70 into a 12.5" SBR.
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Pic of the fireball at night?
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:06:17 PM EDT
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I decided to turn my 1895 .45-70 into a 12.5" SBR.

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Boom!
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:10:53 PM EDT
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I have a 15" 50/70 Encore with integral muzzle brake. Very impressive with the right powders.
ETA: Loaded to full modern pressures in Starline cases. I got the blessing of both Starline and the barrel maker first.
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:13:43 PM EDT
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I have a 15" 50/70 Encore with integral muzzle brake. Very impressive with the right powders.
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My 12" .45-70 Contender in interesting in low light.

When I bought the first box of ammo for the barrel the LGS owner said "I shot a deer with one of those a couple years ago, without ear protection. I...regretted it."

I took that as a warning.
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:24:32 PM EDT
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Monster of a cartridge - can pack a huge punch.
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I'll soon have one in a 14" T/C Contender...
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:33:13 PM EDT
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My 12" .45-70 Contender in interesting in low light.

When I bought the first box of ammo for the barrel the LGS owner said "I shot a deer with one of those a couple years ago, without ear protection. I...regretted it."

I took that as a warning.
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I imagine so. I hope I never find out what mine sounds like; if I hunt with it I use active muffs.
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I'll soon have one in a 14" T/C Contender...

Hold on. Roll with the recoil, don't try to hold it down. Just control where it goes so you don't hit yourself between the eyes with the front sight.

And, for the love of God, put the fingers of your support hand OVER the triggerguard, not under and helping hold the gun tighter. Heed this or you will bleed a lot and maybe break your first two knuckles. I learned this with a 14" .44, not even close to what the .45-70 does. Gloves help cushion your palms.

Learn to reload and to cast if you don't already. Assuming cheap lead you can go from $2 per round to less than 20 cents-seriously. My cast reloads cost me about $9.50 for 50 rounds. The $1.80 per round saved pays off $250 worth of entry level loading and casting equipment fast.
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 10:59:13 PM EDT
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Hold on. Roll with the recoil, don't try to hold it down. Just control where it goes so you don't hit yourself between the eyes with the front sight.

And, for the love of God, put the fingers of your support hand OVER the triggerguard, not under and helping hold the gun tighter. Heed this or you will bleed a lot and maybe break your first two knuckles. I learned this with a 14" .44, not even close to what the .45-70 does. Gloves help cushion your palms.

Learn to reload and to cast if you don't already. Assuming cheap lead you can go from $2 per round to less than 20 cents-seriously. My cast reloads cost me about $9.50 for 50 rounds. The $1.80 per round saved pays off $250 worth of entry level loading and casting equipment fast.
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lol I learned that with my 500 encore. Actually settled on a one handed technique where I let it go up and over my head.
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lol I learned that with my 500 encore. Actually settled on a one handed technique where I let it go up and over my head.
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You'll be fine then.
I've only had a couple people shoot mine and ask for another round. I'd imagine the .500 would be similar.
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 11:13:51 PM EDT
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I just inherited a 45/70 Marlin from my dad, I shot a couple 300gr rounds.  I am new to these guns but loved it.  I got a couple boxes that used to be 405gr loads but thats just empty brass.

Reading this thread I should buy a set of dies for my Dillon!   I have about 60-80 rounds of brass.  Of course I would need those damn primers :(
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 11:14:24 PM EDT
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That belt looks like it would need suspenders to hold it up!

Had a H&R Shikari back in the day. Someone had replaced the plastic trigger guard and barrel band with brass copies.
I never loaded for it because I had read about the weak receivers. I sold it and got a Ruger #1. I had 7 boxes of brass from the H&R to load.
The #1 has never had a factory round through it. I load 400gr Speers at 1920.
That Shikari was beautiful. I kick myself at least once a week for selling it.
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I have the GBL, cause I like black guns...

https://i.imgur.com/Kpp0agJ.jpg

That belt looks like it would need suspenders to hold it up!

Had a H&R Shikari back in the day. Someone had replaced the plastic trigger guard and barrel band with brass copies.
I never loaded for it because I had read about the weak receivers. I sold it and got a Ruger #1. I had 7 boxes of brass from the H&R to load.
The #1 has never had a factory round through it. I load 400gr Speers at 1920.
That Shikari was beautiful. I kick myself at least once a week for selling it.



Referred to here as "stump bro" (loading ammo with a Lee Loader on a stump), this guy has one. Here's the next evolution of that loading process!

Link Posted: 10/6/2020 12:44:13 AM EDT
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That is beautiful, I need to have one of my 1895 SBR like that.
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Link Posted: 10/10/2020 8:47:46 PM EDT
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Some medium 300 grain Sierras in nickel Starline brass I loaded for my GBL.

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I like that loading block!
Link Posted: 10/10/2020 9:11:16 PM EDT
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I will often write the load data directly onto the case with a sharpie. I can't lose or forget it that way.
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60 million bison can't be wrong.
Link Posted: 10/10/2020 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Not mine, but I made the cheekrest/riser and the leather loop cover
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Link Posted: 10/10/2020 11:22:32 PM EDT
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Not mine, but I made the cheekrest/riser and the leather loop cover
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How much?  
Link Posted: 10/11/2020 12:26:34 AM EDT
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Just powder coated and sized some 405gr cast bullet.  With H4198 behind it, it will let ya know you are throwing some weight downrange. :)



Though, I just bore scoped my Marlin 1895 barrel, and I kinda wonder of the rifling cutter has been sharpened since 1895....  Need to lap that thing.
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