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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote My BIL (medical O in the AF) has his family photos taken in front of F-35s on the flight line and has his "war room" adorned with relics he bought as they still have tags on them plus all the bogus "squadron/wing/flight" swag the AF is so fond of. This fronting seems to be AF wide unless you're a pilot or a TACP/JTAC. O's gonna O. |
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Quoted: With no dick? I'm stunned. Is that even legal? View Quote This is 100% the choice of an organization trying to keep itself from dying. White, straight, female, active military winner from flyover country? Or maybe they got paid. Like how recruitment ads suddenly show white men doing manly things again. |
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Hey my state got something right for once. She’s cute and certainly sounds smart and ambitious according to what @Mach has posted.
I don’t know shit about fuck so I’ll take his word for it. |
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she is standing on the shoulders of generations of people living like they had some sense....funny how that works
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ITT some fat dudes are being critical of a woman perusing her masters for not finishing her fighter pilot training yet.
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Quoted: Yes, I met her back in 2019 when I went back for my class reunion. She was just a freshman then, but she put out a vibe that you could tell she was going places. And yes, very much an OEM female….despite being hidden under the uniform at the time. That now makes two USAFA grads that i know who went to the Kennedy school at Harvard. Not the greatest pedigree you know. Military academy post Obama and then Harvard. View Quote |
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Quoted: She is cute and an achiever, but this is why real journalism is dead. She is 22 years old. Graduated the academy last year, ie 2023. And is now at the Kennedy School of Govt in a Masters program. There has been no time to go to a year of pilot training or 6 months of fight qualification training. Yet this article implies she is a USAF Fighter Pilot by calling her a pilot, saying she is in the Air Force and showing her standing in front of an F-16 https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/news/pilot-madison-marsh-becomes-first-active-duty-air-force-officer-to-win-miss-america-title/ She is beautiful, An academy grad, no easy feat, got into the Kennedy School of govt for a Masters degree, even harder achievement, yet they still imply she is a fighter pilot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: She is cute and an achiever, but this is why real journalism is dead. She is 22 years old. Graduated the academy last year, ie 2023. And is now at the Kennedy School of Govt in a Masters program. There has been no time to go to a year of pilot training or 6 months of fight qualification training. Yet this article implies she is a USAF Fighter Pilot by calling her a pilot, saying she is in the Air Force and showing her standing in front of an F-16 https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/news/pilot-madison-marsh-becomes-first-active-duty-air-force-officer-to-win-miss-america-title/ She is beautiful, An academy grad, no easy feat, got into the Kennedy School of govt for a Masters degree, even harder achievement, yet they still imply she is a fighter pilot. This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 A fighter pilot undergoing training in the U.S. Air Force, aiming for a Top Gun qualification, could also become the next Miss America. Madison Marsh, the reigning champion of the Centennial State pageant, is set to make history this weekend as the first active-duty Air Force officer to compete for the Miss America title. Marsh, 22, acquired her pilot's license at the age of 17. She is now a U.S. Air Force 2nd lieutenant with a coveted spot for fighter pilot training. In May 2023, she was crowned Miss Colorado, just before she graduated from the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA) and was commissioned as an Air Force Officer. |
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Well hey, the army has lujan and I’m sure it is working well. The airforce needs one as well. Can’t entice young white men into joining the armed forces with tranny promos’s.
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Quoted: Now I think she is sitting in the back of what looks like a viper. The seat is slanted back too far for an F-15. View Quote Plus missile(s) on the wingtips Could the wings on that patch be for having completed flight training (in the cirrus or diamond single engine prop planes) they use at the academy? Or they have a glider club too |
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< than a 50% chance she will have children.
Her replacements are streaming across the border as she plays drag in a man role "protecting the country". This is no different than a man being trans with the same final effect on the country & simps cheer. |
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Quoted: This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 View Quote It doesn't say that. Next week, you guys will have Trump considering her to be the next Sec of Defense. |
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She is HOT!
She is smart. She is serving the country. So far so good! |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/riwnFZaYPccTdAFXm1ACbg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/cnn_articles_875/5d8d5c08cd0bcf30098dff89aabf7585 It's cool and all that she's an Air Force pilot but this is why we clicked on the thread. It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. Her flight suit says "Miss Colorado," so I'll assume that was a photo op and not trying to pass off that she's a pilot. |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote Fox interviewed her this weekend She got an F-16D backseat ride |
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People complaining she’s not a pilot sitting in a plain need to get a grip.
I was a grunt. If I had the opportunity to take a picture in a tank or cobra I would have done it in a heartbeat. |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/riwnFZaYPccTdAFXm1ACbg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/cnn_articles_875/5d8d5c08cd0bcf30098dff89aabf7585 It's cool and all that she's an Air Force pilot but this is why we clicked on the thread. It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. Those are not enlisted wings. With the exception of the handful of enlisted RQ-4 pilots sporting RPA pilot wings, the center of all enlisted AF wings are round, not shields. Shields are an officer thing. Those are officer aircrew wings. They are awarded/earned for several different things. One common group who wears them are Flight Test Engineers. Her degree leads me to believe she may be classified as one, at least for the time being. |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. View Quote Took a lot of googling: Commissioned in 2023 and is 22 years old so no way she is an AF pilot. Found an article with other pics from “familiarization flight” saying the she would soon be starting flight school. That’s why her shit doesn’t fit and looks brand new. She presumably was a cadet at the time. She does have her private pilot license. Saying she is “training to be a top gun” is comical at best, I hope the reporter made that line up! Her Wikipedia page is all about miss America and only has 1 sentence about the AF. The army has rules about letting people get out who come into money, get famous, or get knocked up because the thought is that the Army will no longer be their priority in life. Whatever, good for her, maybe they can use her to help recruiting. |
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Quoted: So everything is a recruiting commercial? Even when it looks like a news story? You are probably right. Maybe I am different, but the lies and wrong implications turn me away, not bring me closer, no matter what it is about. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. Most of the Air Force doesn't fly or have flight wings. But what is the Air Force known for? Flying planes of course! So if you want people to join you don't show air plane mechanics, logistics people, or other support you show people in flight suits in planes. So everything is a recruiting commercial? Even when it looks like a news story? You are probably right. Maybe I am different, but the lies and wrong implications turn me away, not bring me closer, no matter what it is about. No, you are right. Media "spin" is BS. |
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Quoted: It doesn't say that. Next week, you guys will have Trump considering her to be the next Sec of Defense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 It doesn't say that. Next week, you guys will have Trump considering her to be the next Sec of Defense. At least she wouldn't get prostate cancer. It says, "A fighter pilot undergoing training in the U.S. Air Force, aiming for a Top Gun qualification." and "She is now a U.S. Air Force 2nd lieutenant with a coveted spot for fighter pilot training." First sentence says she /is/ a fighter pilot, second sentence says she is in /fighter pilot training/. Read it how you want. Shrug. |
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You guys are focused on irrelevant shit...and only two photos of her in entire thread? This place isn't the insightful research tool it used to be...
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Quoted: You know what they say once you get past the Stanke you got her licked sorry that was last year's Miss America https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/200198/images__1__jpeg-3095157.JPG View Quote one in the pinke, one in the stanke? |
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Quoted: Those are not enlisted wings. With the exception of the handful of enlisted RQ-4 pilots sporting RPA pilot wings, the center of all enlisted AF wings are round, not shields. Shields are an officer thing. Those are officer aircrew wings. They are awarded/earned for several different things. One common group who wears them are Flight Test Engineers. Her degree leads me to believe she may be classified as one, at least for the time being. View Quote More than likely a filler job afyer the usafa. They sent you usually to academy jobs, until say pilot training starts but real smart ones get admin positions with test/reserch teams. Looks like a 16d at luke or vegas( brown building in the back) |
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Quoted: Not nit picking. She is an impressive young lady with very impressive achievements. Academy grad and graduate program at the Kennedy school of govt is a very selective path, more impressive than pilot training slot and beauty queen and those are pretty impressive too. I don’t know why, I should know better, but I still hate what the media does to what used to be the news. They imply untrue shit instead of just telling the story with facts even when the facts are impressive by themselves. Maybe it is just incompetence . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: you fuckers will not pick everything lol Not nit picking. She is an impressive young lady with very impressive achievements. Academy grad and graduate program at the Kennedy school of govt is a very selective path, more impressive than pilot training slot and beauty queen and those are pretty impressive too. I don’t know why, I should know better, but I still hate what the media does to what used to be the news. They imply untrue shit instead of just telling the story with facts even when the facts are impressive by themselves. Maybe it is just incompetence . Groomed for a top slot in the company...maybe even POTUS |
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Quoted: My BIL (medical O in the AF) has his family photos taken in front of F-35s on the flight line and has his "war room" adorned with relics he bought as they still have tags on them plus all the bogus "squadron/wing/flight" swag the AF is so fond of. This fronting seems to be AF wide unless you're a pilot or a TACP/JTAC. O's gonna O. View Quote Your bil might be fake but plenty of non flyers that have i.love me walls full.of stuff. I know a doc that has all kinds of team stuff on his wall. It looks laughable. He save seals on a mountsin top after a hard helo crash in 2001/2 afg while having his own broken back. Sometimes swag is legit |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote It appears she has been selected for Viper training. https://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/2024/01/15/madison-marsh-miss-america-beauty-queen-part-fighter-pilot/72186904007/ |
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Quoted: https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/riwnFZaYPccTdAFXm1ACbg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/cnn_articles_875/5d8d5c08cd0bcf30098dff89aabf7585 It's cool and all that she's an Air Force pilot but this is why we clicked on the thread. View Quote I was expecting a man and clicked to see if I was right. I was pleasantly surprised. |
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Quoted: Fox interviewed her this weekend She got an F-16D backseat ride View Quote Their headline sure is a bit different… LOL Attached File |
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Quoted: This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: She is cute and an achiever, but this is why real journalism is dead. She is 22 years old. Graduated the academy last year, ie 2023. And is now at the Kennedy School of Govt in a Masters program. There has been no time to go to a year of pilot training or 6 months of fight qualification training. Yet this article implies she is a USAF Fighter Pilot by calling her a pilot, saying she is in the Air Force and showing her standing in front of an F-16 https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/news/pilot-madison-marsh-becomes-first-active-duty-air-force-officer-to-win-miss-america-title/ She is beautiful, An academy grad, no easy feat, got into the Kennedy School of govt for a Masters degree, even harder achievement, yet they still imply she is a fighter pilot. This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 A fighter pilot undergoing training in the U.S. Air Force, aiming for a Top Gun qualification, could also become the next Miss America. Madison Marsh, the reigning champion of the Centennial State pageant, is set to make history this weekend as the first active-duty Air Force officer to compete for the Miss America title. Marsh, 22, acquired her pilot's license at the age of 17. She is now a U.S. Air Force 2nd lieutenant with a coveted spot for fighter pilot training. In May 2023, she was crowned Miss Colorado, just before she graduated from the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA) and was commissioned as an Air Force Officer. No you can’t get fast tracked for being a civilian pilot. This is a classic example of a bullshit article. Some headline says pilot. AF Officer and shows a pic of her in the back seat of an F-16 and or standing in front of one and other news articles now say she is a fighter pilot and mixing up AF and Navy terms. There is no AF Top Gun. There may be a top of the pilot training class, but the term Top Gun is a very specific Navy Training school, and label. It doesn’t work like that either. You don’t get a slot for fighter pilot training until you complete the first part of pilot training and you are put into a track. She may not even graduate from pilot training, lots of people don’t for various reasons. Journalists no longer fact check anything. Half of what they write is just flat out wrong. She is probably embarrassed by all this bad info. She has plenty of accomplishments that set her apart, I don’t see why the media has to get so much wrong when the things she has already done are far and above most of her peers already. They should sing those praises instead of making shit up. She will probably take shit when she does get to pilot training due to all the untrue bullshit in the media about her. I wish her luck. It is a demanding path she is on and I wish her success. |
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Quoted: Plus missile(s) on the wingtips Could the wings on that patch be for having completed flight training (in the cirrus or diamond single engine prop planes) they use at the academy? Or they have a glider club too View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Now I think she is sitting in the back of what looks like a viper. The seat is slanted back too far for an F-15. Plus missile(s) on the wingtips Could the wings on that patch be for having completed flight training (in the cirrus or diamond single engine prop planes) they use at the academy? Or they have a glider club too Could be, I don’t know. I found a pick online that said enlisted reaper program. It could just be something somebody put together when they had the Miss Colorado name put on it. Somebody ordered it, that somebody may have just picked that wing insignia for no special reason or like you said maybe they use that insignia for the academy flight training program. |
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Quoted: It doesn't say that. Next week, you guys will have Trump considering her to be the next Sec of Defense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This article says she's currently in Top Gun school. I have no idea if that is realistic. If you already have a pilot's license, can you get fast tracked in the AF? https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-madison-marsh-us-air-force-pilot-training-be-top-gun-also-first-active-duty-officer-vying-73058 It doesn't say that. Next week, you guys will have Trump considering her to be the next Sec of Defense. It does specifically say she I a fighter pilot. |
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Quoted: It does not look like she is a pilot. Those are not pilot wings. I don’t know what type of wings those are either. Not WSO wings. Looks like she is sitting in the back of an F-15E Maybe an incentive ride? Her flight suit is too loose. Her gloves are too big. She has no rank on her shoulder, so that is a loner flight suit. I don’t know what she does, but I don’t think she sits in the back of a mud hen as a job. ETA. Those are enlisted aircrew Reaper wings, so she does something with the reaper program. View Quote The flight suit photo has a name tag for "Ms Colorado." She was "Ms Colorado" while a cadet at USAFA. I am guessing they are photos taken while she was a cadet. There's a Guardian article showing her getting ready in the same uniform for an fam flight at Nellis in a Viper: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12963441/Miss-Colorado-makes-history-serving-soldier-crowned-Miss-America-Air-Force-pilot-22-training-Gun-fighter-pilot-graduating-Harvard.html I would wager its a silly non regulation cadet name tag and the wings are meaningless -- perhaps a gift even from someone who didn't know the difference. Because no cadet has ever worn anything slightly out of regs, ever before. As a 2LT I'd expect her to be en route to UPT. She is a commissioned officer with a private pilot's license and has a pilot slot per the Guardian. While PA is stretching a bit and she may not yet be a fully qualified military pilot it seems technically accurate to call her a pilot. |
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