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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:20:58 PM EST
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Why not just call your local dealer?
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:21:42 PM EST
[#2]
Well that sucks but want I want to know is what they are going to do if you aren’t wearing a mask? Refuse to take your kid?
Or LOL refuse to give you your kid at the end of the day?! |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:22:30 PM EST
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Why not call the parts department at your dealer and have them order one?
You should just go though insurance now instead of waiting to get screwed over then doing it anyway |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:23:27 PM EST
[#4]
If no damage to the guys truck he probably does not want to do post accident stuff......UA etc...
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:24:11 PM EST
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Can't wait for Pt 2 called, "they're reneging now, what do?"
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:24:47 PM EST
[#6]
OP gonna get bamboozled.
OP is letting them "not involve insurance" and hoping they can pay out of pocket for repairs on a $45,000 dollar truck that's basically brand new. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:25:32 PM EST
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All the part numbers you need are in this diagram OP, there are a bunch of parts in the assembly when you add in all the plastic bits so you can figure out what you need:
https://www.stevewhiteparts.com/v-2019-ram-1500--rebel--5-7l-v8-gas/frame-bumper-and-fascia--rear-bumper-and-fascia Sounds like the guy is trying to fuck you in some way. I'd just take it to a body shop where they can identify any frame damage or whatever else there is, since your truck is basically new, and have him pick up the tab. I don't think people should be forced to have insurance, but if you ain't gonna have your shit straight, then you need to be prepared to make amends when you fuck up |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:28:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If no damage to the guys truck he probably does not want to do post accident stuff......UA etc... Yep. If it's a company vehicle there's usually some hoops to jump through after an accident and it can be a headache, especially if you have a cash strapped company itching for a reason to let someone go "for cause". I get being the nice guy, but OP is probably gonna get swindled here. Once the cost of the repair is revealed they may renege and OP will be back to reporting it, but now having trouble since he's doing it days after the incident. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:28:02 PM EST
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File with your own insurance and let them subrogate it. Otherwise you're likely to get bamboozled.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:31:06 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If no damage to the guys truck he probably does not want to do post accident stuff......UA etc... Quote HistoryQuoted: If no damage to the guys truck he probably does not want to do post accident stuff......UA etc... Don't want to assume what the issue is, but I can come up with several (improper personal use, multiple incidents, etc). That's what I'm thinking too. But can you be sure he'll actually pay the quote? And what can you do if he decides to blow you off? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:31:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: File with your own insurance and let them subrogate it. Otherwise you're likely to get bamboozled. This. Rarely is it 'just a bumper', even when it's minor. Don't be surprised when you get halfway into repairs and then the shop finds all the other parts damaged. The true extent of the damage is unlikely to be known until teardown is completed, and no shop is going to do that unless you commit to repairs. Also - dealerships usually aren't body shops. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:33:46 PM EST
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take your pick...
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ram,2019,1500,5.7l+v8,3442267,body+&+lamp+assembly,bumper,1340 this is where your mechanic orders parts |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:33:59 PM EST
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This happened to me once. It was at a stoplight. Some kid was messing with his phone and ran into me. It didn’t do a ton of damage but it was around $900 worth. I called the cops right there and he got a ticket. He wanted to not go through insurance because he was driving his girlfriend’s car and he was getting ready to get an apartment with her. I gave him a few weeks. He was texting me back and forth during that time. Once I took pictures of the two different quotes I got he stopped texting me back. I filed a claim with his insurance and they paid. Little bastard tried to not pay.
ETA: you should probably have called the cops so they could have sited him and at least got his insurance information in case he doesn’t end up paying. ETA: The same thing happened to my dad once. He had his Camaro for about a month and a guy barely hit him at a stop light. The guy didn’t want to get insurance involved and for whatever reason the quote was like 2k. The guy thought my dad was trying to rip him off so they just turned it into insurance and they paid. The thing is the car was brand new (when they where first released about 10 years ago) and it had broken something behind the bumper cover so all of it had to be replaced. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:35:46 PM EST
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Take good pics and get something written from him admitting fault.
Take to body shop and get quote. Ask for check in amount of quote. If they drag their feet call insurance. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:39:53 PM EST
[#15]
It's Houston just go take it to the shop and pay to have it fixed. Your hosed. You can sue them in small claims court
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:48:27 PM EST
[#16]
Three rules to live by
1) Never stick your dick in crazy 2) Never lend a friend money 3) Never fall for the I don't want to get insurance involved BS |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:51:39 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This happened to me once. It was at a stoplight. Some kid was messing with his phone and ran into me. It didn’t do a ton of damage but it was around $900 worth. I called the cops right there and he got a ticket. He wanted to not go through insurance because he was driving his girlfriend’s car and he was getting ready to get an apartment with her. I gave him a few weeks. He was texting me back and forth during that time. Once I took pictures of the two different quotes I got he stopped texting me back. I filed a claim with his insurance and they paid. Little bastard tried to not pay. ETA: you should probably have called the cops so they could have sited him and at least got his insurance information in case he doesn’t end up paying. ETA: The same thing happened to my dad once. He had his Camaro for about a month and a guy barely hit him at a stop light. The guy didn’t want to get insurance involved and for whatever reason the quote was like 2k. The guy thought my dad was trying to rip him off so they just turned it into insurance and they paid. The thing is the car was brand new (when they where first released about 10 years ago) and it had broken something behind the bumper cover so all of it had to be replaced. All very good points. Got me thinking about my company's vehicles too (cargo, not POV). As per the insurance policy IIRC any time a company truck is involved in an accident they HAVE to get a police report. Either they've been screwed over a few times by people who don't pay or have coverage etc... or the insurance company has seen enough of it to make it a requirement. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:56:54 PM EST
[#18]
If they didn’t want to get insurance involved, they shouldn’t have run into you.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 12:06:39 AM EST
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Black powder coat, without park sensor. 68271595AA
Black powder coat, with park sensor. 68271591AA https://www.tascaparts.com/v-2019-ram-1500--rebel--5-7l-v8-gas/body--bumper-and-components-rear  |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:07:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Black powder coat, without park sensor. 68271595AA Black powder coat, with park sensor. 68271591AA https://www.tascaparts.com/v-2019-ram-1500--rebel--5-7l-v8-gas/body--bumper-and-components-rear https://dz310nzuyimx0.cloudfront.net/strapr1/479e853b39e96abd3c0a29d8a3a0aa3d/57fe0f7a0cb166c535097e80dbe37d65.png Thanks for your help, but that part number (68271591AA) looks like it's for an older gen truck. Mine is a 2019 5th gen with parking sensors; looks like you have found a bumper for a 4th gen Ram? |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:13:24 AM EST
[#21]
There's a 99.87% chance you're gonna get screwed, hard and fast with no lube, Ram Ranch style.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:26:53 AM EST
[#22]
My company specifically forbids family from riding in any company vehicle. He's afraid of getting shit-canned, I'll bet.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:28:39 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Three rules to live by 1) Never stick your dick in crazy 2) Never lend a friend money 3) Never fall for the I don't want to get insurance involved BS LOL - soooo much of this. 
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:31:08 AM EST
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People that arent responsible enough to have good car insurance are also not responsible enough to have $1,000’s of dollars laying around for repairs. Never agree to handle it afterwards. File a police report and get insurance involved immediately, you’ll save yourself a headache.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:38:28 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Take good pics and get something written from him admitting fault. Take to body shop and get quote. Ask for check in amount of quote. If they drag their feet call insurance. This is where my heads at. I got pics of damage at the scene, and will go to my dealer tomorrow to get an estimate. If they can take care of the repair cost immediately, then I'm good with not involving insurance - otherwise I'll file a claim tomorrow. Haha, starting to feel it quite a bit. Nothing serious, but no way I'm getting a decent nights rest tonight. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:40:03 AM EST
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:43:29 AM EST
[#27]
Oof, you got scammed
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:15:09 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oof, you got scammed How do you figure? I have pictures of their policy, car, and damage, along with several witnesses. Other than a tiny bit of extra inconvenience, what do I have to lose by letting them pay for the damages out of pocket? If things go sideways I'll just call USAA and let them take care of it - worst case here is an uninsured motorist, and I've got coverage for that. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:17:53 AM EST
[#29]
Get 1,000 cash right now and a signed notarized statement that they will pay 100% of the cost to repair your vehicle
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:21:29 AM EST
[#30]
OP gonna learn the hard way. This shit never works out. File with your insurance, give your insurance company the contact info for the idiot, and move on.
This is what you pay your insurance company for. Why are you doing their paperwork and assuming their risk for them? |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:26:44 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't wait for Pt 2 called, "they're reneging now, what do?" Yeah fuck all that. Learned that the hard way when a lady at work backed into my car. Didn’t want to go they insurance. Just told me to get an estimate and she pay me that amount. Turned out she was basically only willing to pay the amount estimated from a shit place like Maaco. Shit drug on for a few months before she finally cut me a check for the maaco estimate. Anyone hits my car now the first call is to the cops. Second call is to insurance. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:26:58 AM EST
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Have to agree with the multiple posts that say you made a mistake by not getting law enforcement involved. Paying out of pocket sounds great to him....he's probably thinking $500 and he'll never have to see you again. Unfortunately, even the smallest damage cost thousands usually. A guy just hit a deer in one of our leased work trucks...I initially thought we'dj ust fix it here in the shop...I called for parts...roughly $550 ...grill, headlight assem, and me straightening the bumper...Contacted Central Office and they said it hd to be fixed at a repair shop....got 2 bids...$1800 & $2250. This was just MINOR front end damage...
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:28:43 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't wait for Pt 2 called, "they're reneging now, what do?" This. Go to a body shop, get an estimate. Get paid upfront or go through insurance. You're going to get screwed. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:32:23 AM EST
[#34]
Why are you researching parts yourself anyways... Take it to a couple shops and get quotes. Forward to the other guy. Give him a day then go through insurance when he doesn't pay.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:32:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a 99.87% chance you're gonna get screwed, hard and fast with no lube, Ram Ranch style. I don't know why people wont learn this lesson. Why do you trust them to do the right thing? ALWAYS get an accident report. I feel bad for OP but maybe he will learn that people suck. Always get an accident report. You don't owe that other driver anything. Once more... ALWAYS GET AN ACCIDENT REPORT |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:33:00 AM EST
[#36]
You should look at an aftermarket bumper. Will probably be cheaper too.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:44:01 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah fuck all that. Learned that the hard way when a lady at work backed into my car. Didn’t want to go they insurance. Just told me to get an estimate and she pay me that amount. Turned out she was basically only willing to pay the amount estimated from a shit place like Maaco. Shit drug on for a few months before she finally cut me a check for the maaco estimate. Anyone hits my car now the first call is to the cops. Second call is to insurance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can't wait for Pt 2 called, "they're reneging now, what do?" Yeah fuck all that. Learned that the hard way when a lady at work backed into my car. Didn’t want to go they insurance. Just told me to get an estimate and she pay me that amount. Turned out she was basically only willing to pay the amount estimated from a shit place like Maaco. Shit drug on for a few months before she finally cut me a check for the maaco estimate. Anyone hits my car now the first call is to the cops. Second call is to insurance. Hell, even when they do have insurance, it's a fucking fight. Took 3 months to get my truck fixed in 2018 because the insured lady was letting her sister drive the car, who let her son drive the car and he's the one who hit me, and then they tried saying it wasn't them....thankfully the work parking lot has cameras and they also admitted it to the employer security guard, but jesus fuck. People are pieces of shit. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:45:42 AM EST
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When I was 16 or 17 I had a guy in a Plymouth Prowler offer me $200 to not call the cops after his girlfriend’s mom rear ended me in a firebird. I was in a beat up 1986 El Camino that I paid $800 for. Dad insisted I call the cops and turn it in to insurance.
Her insurance paid out $1800. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:46:58 AM EST
[#39]
Is the kid’s mom hot? I’ve seen some documentaries like this before.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:52:37 AM EST
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If they don’t want to go through insurance, fine
Take it to a GOOD body shop. Get the estimate and drop it off to the guy. He pays in FULL and you take your truck in. There’s no reason you should be looking up parts ETA. Some shithead hit-n-ran my truck the first week I had it. Trashed the front bumper. $1200 for replacement bumper, mounts, fog light, and 1 sensor |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:53:41 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just call your local dealer? FPNI (and that would be wayyyyyyyyy to easy and make wayyyyyyyyy to much sense). J- |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 10:55:56 AM EST
[#42]
InB4 "other party didn't pay, what do?"
Ur gonna get heckin bamboozled F them do an accident report and file with insurance. Trying to cut anyone a break nowadays just ends up fkng yourself. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 11:04:32 AM EST
[#43]
I had a drunk kid steal his dad's work truck, lose control, destroy our fence. He launched his truck onto a phone pole that was laid over a swale on our side yard. The truck was left teetering on the pole about three feet in the air. We heard all kinds of noise outside, but figured we'd check in the morning, as we have some real assholes in the neighborhood.
Hubby checks in the morning, comes in laughing, you're not gonna believe this. We call the sheriff, they come... and laugh. Call a flat bed tow truck with a wench. They destroyed the swale and fence getting it out. Sheriff calls the father after they found out who it belonged to. Dad is pissed, he had just gotten the truck out of the shop. Sheriff had him give us his insurance info. We talk to him and decide this could be a teaching moment for his son. They could come down and the three of them could work together and fix the fence. My hubby called and called, last call the guy tells hubby to fuck off.  I say, okay, leave the rest to me. Fuck me over and I will wreak vengeance on your ass. Suffice to say, the insurance company paid, and I am 100% sure their insurance got a bit more expensive after that.I'll be a nice southern girl, until I'm pissed... then it's scorched earth. Long story short, I do not take people at their word anymore. ETA can't spell |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 11:48:51 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI (and that would be wayyyyyyyyy to easy and make wayyyyyyyyy to much sense). J- Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why not just call your local dealer? FPNI (and that would be wayyyyyyyyy to easy and make wayyyyyyyyy to much sense). J-  Have you ever asked for a part number from a dealer before? They will never give them out, at least in my experience. It's a quote only. They don't want you shopping around online. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 12:04:25 PM EST
[#45]
Seems appropriate...
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Posted: 11/18/2020 12:43:06 PM EST
[#46]
About 3 years ago, I got rear ended at a traffic light. I was driving my 2010 Tundra. The other driver, an early 2000's Tahoe. Pushed my bumper into the left rear corner of the bed and put a nice crease in the sheet metal, bent the bumper and shifted my shell back about three inches. We exchanged insurance info and I called my insurance company when I got home. Took my truck to a local body shop on Monday and got a quote (about $1800) and sent this to MY insurance company. Scheduled a time for service, dropped truck off, had a rental car while truck was in shop and my insurance paid for everything. I had to pay my deductible but I got a refund after my insurance settled with the other drivers insurance.
As stated earlier, Call your insurance and let them handle it, That is what you pay them for. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 12:59:15 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryHaha, I guess I’m going to be one of the dumb asses that ignores GD’s conventional wisdom. Those people really annoy the crap out of me, but its always super satisfying when it blows up in their face. Now I fully expect, like nearly 100% sure, that the repair bill will be substantially more than they think it will be. And I also believe it’s likely they will not end up paying out of pocket and I’ll have to go through insurance. Guys I get it. But how am I any worse off by giving the guy a day to settle up out of pocket before filing a claim? I'm going to be seeing this family at my kids school, their sports, the grocery store, etc for years to come. If the dude gets termed and I didn't give him a small chance to come through, it's going to make for some next level awkwardness that I can really do without ... I think one of their kids even played on my sons soccer team a year or two back. Edit: Dealer is going to look at it tomorrow morning |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:01:04 PM EST
[#48]
I had somebody cause some damage to my vehicle a few years ago. Somebody I knew but we were not friends or anything. The guy was middle class with a nice home and income. Went to my church. Knew him from around town. His kids played sports with my kids. He said he would take care of everything if I didn't report it to insurance.
It never worked out very well. He bickered about the quotes I got and tried to nickle and dime me. I finally got the money but it was a real hassle. Never again. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:08:29 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had somebody cause some damage to my vehicle a few years ago. Somebody I knew but we were not friends or anything. The guy was middle class with a nice home and income. Went to my church. Knew him from around town. His kids played sports with my kids. He said he would take care of everything if I didn't report it to insurance. It never worked out very well. He bickered about the quotes I got and tried to nickle and dime me. I finally got the money but it was a real hassle. Never again. I picture this going about how you are saying ... My guess is they aren't going to like the repair bill, but that's fine, lets just go through insurance then. Not up for any bickering or shopping around for more quotes. |
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Posted: 11/18/2020 1:19:13 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha, I guess I’m going to be one of the dumb asses that ignores GD’s conventional wisdom. Those people really annoy the crap out of me, but its always super satisfying when it blows up in their face. Now I fully expect, like nearly 100% sure, that the repair bill will be substantially more than they think it will be. And I also believe it’s likely they will not end up paying out of pocket and I’ll have to go through insurance. Guys I get it. But how am I any worse off by giving the guy a day to settle up out of pocket before filing a claim? I'm going to be seeing this family at my kids school, their sports, the grocery store, etc for years to come. If the dude gets termed and I didn't give him a small chance to come through, it's going to make for some next level awkwardness that I can really do without ... I think one of their kids even played on my sons soccer team a year or two back. Edit: Dealer is going to look at it tomorrow morning Since this is GD(had to check  ) fuck his wife until he settles up
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