Since my post many pages back went unanswered (as in WTF is all this red pill stuff) I've read more of Reddit than I ever wanted...and this connects right back to the thread about men who have given up on sex.  Too many are simply trying to figure out why they are the way they are and find it easy to blame women.  Some have issues and anyone focusing on what is "alpha" vs. "beta" and not just pretending to care about that on the Internet are very self conscious and I would guess have confidence issues.  They need to talk to someone and do some inner reflecting and not worry about how alpha they are.

There's a lot in play in both of these threads; lost souls who found out life sucks and humans even of the opposite sex can be evil, those with disorders and development issues, those who simply found everyone else wrong for their unusual behavior.  Trust me, I speak from experience, go talk to someone and look inward not outward for the problems and even solutions.  Do that first before you come up with a scheme of red vs blue pills.

The thing is, men have always done this too. Look at the "hot chicks with schmendricks" phenomenon.

Also reference our fairly frequent "why won't hot chicks go out with me (even though I'm a corpulent windbag)?" Threads we get"

I know confirmation bias will not let this post go over well, but whatevs.

I'm kind of wondering when these people will realize that everyone is different and there's only ever one common denominator for your life experiences..... and that's YOU.   So guess what, if you end up with shitty men or women on a consistent basis, the common denominator isn't men or women in general, it's you.   I know that's hard to swallow, but if you put more value on whether she does or not than on her compatible personality, you're in for a world of long term disappointment.

Judging everyone from a sex based on your very small sample size of 1 is retarded.  Then again, that's the same person making shitty choice after shitty choice and blaming it via massive generalization on a group of people, most of whom they will never meet.  So yeah, not that big of surprise, there.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

I quite 2 paragraphs into the article and, as u closed the tab, thought it would be entertaining to see a bio and pic of the author.

It's the 1-10 rating scale, with Melania Trump being a 10 and Hillary a -87.

 

There are no 10s because there are no perfect human beings.

I wish I could agree with you, but I'm seeing it out there every single day with my own two eyes.

I think individuals may be, probably are, genetically predisposed to certain behaviors, but I don't believe all individuals of one gender will necessarily exhibit any particular behavioral trait.  Why would I when my half century of observing men has shown me that men vary greatly in their behavior, as do women?

I can understand why you would choose to feel differently though.

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It's unnatural in the sense that it's never happened before.  

1) The right to vote ~ 1919/20
2) Entering the workplace ~ 1940's
3) Reliable birth control giving rise to sexual revolution ~ 1960's

Those are dramatic changes for a society to absorb within a generation of each other.

Woman Math =/= Man Math

Women will happily "bang lower" if that guy knows how to mess with their heads

Just like guys will "bang lower" if they are horny and think they can get away with it. Hopefully nobody'll ever find out I fucked the fat chick at the bar etc and if they do I'll blame it on being drunk, pray to God she doesn't get pregnant etc.................................

Gobs of women find guys, get married, and live happily ever after.  They mostly do this in their early twenties.

The "good women" self-select out of the larger dating pool.

Agreed.  My theorem is that all of civilization is predicated upon repressing the female libido, Look at religious and other moral teaching throughout time.  Yes, there are rules for men, but there are more rules, more strictly enforced for women.  It's not for reasons of unfairness, although that may be the outcome.  It's for reasons of the survival of that culture.

AND child support=paycheck for sluttymom.

Married on not.

Yep, stay away from the ones that have been married twice before age 30....

That's the heart of "game"

If a man rejects, ignores or insults a woman, he must, obviously be of higher SMV than she is.  because if he wasn't, he would be kissing her ass.

So she must, therefore, be attracted to him because his SMV is higher than hers.

simple, and it obviously works.

Truth

I think this man just hit the nail on the head, there are still good woman out there that are not stuck up like the one from the article but they are few and far between and usually already in relationships...... wait for it.... because they know what they want and went out and got it

 

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This chart pretty much explains the redpill stuff.

Impossible, going on that - you're telling me that when you have women with 10,000 instagram followers who tell her daily how beautiful she is... that she's not into any of them?
You're saying that she wouldn't date any of them, unless they are crazy attractive (out of her league) and additionally don't immediately tell her how attractive she is?
There is no such thing as game at all, what you're suggesting is impossible, even for a computer.

Christ, next thing you're going to say is that women tend to pre-select men who they would be interested in.
What after that, that the best steps for a guy to be attractive is to "Be somebody, do something, and achieve." vs reading "top 10 things women like to hear!" lists on FB?
Lies.

Unless her friends think you two should date, hook up, or whatever. Rejecting her as undesirable or unworthy will bring about their wrath and they'll work overtime to make sure everyone in your life knows your SMV is zero.

I like giving those guys the "Spock" eyebrow.        Nothing shuts down a Jersey Shore wannabe like realizing some other dude knows your game, won't play your game, and finds you slightly less annoying (and amusing) than a SpongeBob rerun.

That's one theory.

Sure does. For some. There will always be insecure women with low self esteem who are easily manipulated by games like that. They aren't women I'd want my son having anything to do with, but others may see things differently, as is their choice. There were a couple guys who thought they could insult, threaten, and manipulate their way into my pants. It was hurtful but ultimately very unsuccessful. Others' mileage may vary.

You are talking about faking it. Not the real thing. You shouldn't fake it. The quarterback owns the room (field), the CEO, the pilot, The gang leader, the bands lead singer, the major league pitcher, the NBA star...

thats owning the room.

My SMV is off the charts, but I struggle with women because it's at a level which is associated a DCR.  Because women prefer the low hanging fruit these days, the single digit SMV males are generally used behind the scenes for sexual pleasure due to their easy access and no-strings attached. A woman's natural tendency is to lock down a higher SMV male, so these are avoided from the ages of 12-35.

I've personally witnessed myself and hundreds of friends be sexually friend zoned because the woman was interested or liked us, due to a higher SMV, however the low valued SMV males were used while the current relationship was analyzed  for male requirements for progression. Once all variables were met, the process progressed, and the woman accepted the male for a DCR, the low value males were generally used less frequently while the emotional fix was supplied by the higher SMV male via a deep commitment relationship.

As I have stepped back from the dating world, my friends that have settled down with those partners, I notice their partners have increased their usage with the lower SMV males. The higher SMV males were delegatead as the emotional supply, and the lower non-DCR males were delegated as the physical supply.

In summary, women are polar sexually to males who live in their moms basement, have no career or car, and advertise it. This is because the effort for a high SMV male is higher than a lower SMV male, when the supply is high, and the demand is low. As women age, the axis are reversed, because the sipply is low, and the demand to get into a DCR is high.

So basically, if a woman is not looking to get married at that moment, she's going to fuck everybody but you. Even if she is fat.

What does that even mean?

Say two guys are out on dinner dates with their respective women. How does one "own the room" while the other doesn't?

It's actually at the core of animal psychology to maximize reproductive success.

This is spot on.

wouldn't work on a nice girl.

but society doesn't really value those much anymore.

whats the nice girl equivalent of sex in the city or ally mcbeal?

It happened to me. Apparently I was supposed to want the 300lb balding redhead with a face that looked like a marshmallow that started to melt while being beaten with a hammer. The look of horror on my face wasn't enough. They wanted a detailed explanation as to WHY I didn't want to date her.

Note to self: when cornered for not playing along, fake a case of the shits instead. You'll live it down faster.

that awkward moment when a woman realizes looks matter more to men than to women.

Thank God I'm not single...

Wow.  I've read about 15 replies and some of you are absolutely delusional.  You're not super desirable, and you're not some great catch.  You are single for a reason, and the reason probably lies with you, not them.  SMV, etc., is a farce, and part of the reason you suck at finding a spouse/SO is because you believe that shit.

Reality check over.  You can go back to your own little world now.

One takes her to a restaurant where the staff knows and loves him. The other tries a new place, a little more upscale than he's used to and his body language is uncomfortable because of it.

It's no wonder they say 60% of college students suffer from a mental disorder...

I think that's the point. Women are passing up good in favor of perfect, which banged them once and will never be back.

Meh. TV is all about entertainment and drama. Nice girls (and guys, for that matter) don't generate drama, thus the entertainment value is fairly low. Why would a TV station air a show that isn't going to rate well? Why would a producer produce one, or a financer finance one?

Although I will say Anne of Green Gables is supposed to be getting a makeover, and I, for one, am interested in seeing how that turns out.

And men are passing over Ms. Right in favor of as many Ms. Right for a Nights as they can bag, banking on the fact that Ms. Right will bide her time and wait for them to be ready for her.

According to the math thrown down here (not that I necessarily subscribe to it, but what the hell), only 20% of women are worth marrying. And men seem to be doing the exact opposite of what y'all say women are doing. If women are chasing the top 10% of men, men are busy playing playing fast and loose with the 80% and hoping the decent 20% wait for them to be done. That's not how that works. That's not how any of that works. The 20% aren't interested in sloppy leftovers who got tired of chasing fast and easy.

Not sure if the pix are GD complaint so

8 pages and no Lana I like my girls a little bit crazy refences

Do you even Alexandria Daddario, bro?

Ever see a large, not so attractive man walk through a mall with a decent or better looking woman who looks happy?  Here is how to leave the basement and be that guy.

1.  Actually, genuinely care about whatever woman you are with as a human being.  Other than being the right thing to do, if she notices, she may recommend you to someone else - a friend, a relative, a coworker. - if you don't end up being her cup of tea.  Women NETWORK!  If she doesn't notice, another woman might.  Don't know what to say to her?  ASK HER ABOUT HERSELF!!!  You will get an earful and she will think you are fascinating, even if you do not get a word in edgewise.

2.  Have a life.  Have something going on.  Situation needs to be - "I have a good life - it would be nice to share it with someone" - NOT "I am desperately miserable and need you".

3.  Sex happens 98% in the mind.  Don't be an idiot.  Don't only care about Japanese anime, video games,  or football.   Have some interests and know something about them.  Find her interests and know something about them, or learn them.  Doesn't mean be a door mat and agree with her on everything, but be able to politely articulate why you disagree.

4.  Always be closing.  If you never ask, the answer is always no.  Go to places OTHER THAN BARS!  Libraries host various monthly meetings for hobbies or interests.  Get involved in a political party.   Go to the church of your choice.  Join a civic organization.  Work for a charitable cause as a volunteer.  If you fish on the bottom with chicken livers, you are gonna catch catfish. If you look for women in a bar, you are going to find women who drink, sometimes a lot, and hook up with guys in bars.  Go other places, establish who you are, and let the nice married gals fix you up with their friends and relations, once they have a pretty good idea you don't have a crawl space full of dead hookers.

5.  Follow Sam Kineson's sexual advice. Make sure she can't see certain parts of your anatomy until after she has had a certain special something twice.  And lick the alphabet.  Bonus points for cursive and capital T.

6. Don't cheat on her.

EDIT to add - I'm not sure why, but confidence seems to be the biggest turn-on for women.   That and already having a girlfriend or wife.  Seems contra-intuitive, but it is so.  Sure, if the dude has money or looks, or both that helps.  It also makes him confident as hell.  That might be what the ladies really find attractive.


I know this all sounds crazy, but it works.

None it it's crazy or contradictory to the OP. Redpill recommends much of the same.

This.

Ok. I'm here.

Is this where I get on the martyr complex train?

Not generally true but pretty damn common.