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Posted: 3/20/2016 9:40:32 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/20/2016 9:49:04 PM EDT

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When the EPA and NOAA have their own SWAT teams, there is no need for a federal police force.

We don't need the one we have.

Posted: 3/20/2016 9:51:44 PM EDT

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the police people are most likely to interact with should be local so there's (hopefully) more oversight and a better chance for the locals to make changes in leadership

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I'm against any LE agency that is not led by a person responsible to the electorate he serves.

Posted: 3/20/2016 10:00:24 PM EDT

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They would be under command of the president.

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First post NAILED it!

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:21:59 AM EDT

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Federal system. General law enforcement, like education, is the purview of the states. You'd need a constitutional amendment to authorize a national police force.

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lol, like that is going to stop the feds

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:26:42 AM EDT

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Most countries are not even as big as most of our states.

So a national police force in a country the size of IN is not the same as what we have here.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:28:08 AM EDT

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We've already got FBI and US Marshals - how exactly do we not have federal police already?

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They aren't responding to 911 calls.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:28:43 AM EDT

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They aren't responding to 911 calls.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:30:29 AM EDT

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Ever had dealings with FBI and some others? Might as well give the DMV people badges and guns, only they rival their inefficiency and love of forms and reports on nothing.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:37:09 AM EDT

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Wait so these agencies aren't enough?

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Wait so these agencies aren't enough?

Department of Agriculture (USDA)
Office of Inspector General (USDAOIG)
United States Forest Service (USFS)
U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations (USFSLEI)

Department of Commerce (DOC)
Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS)
Office of Export Enforcement (OEE)
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
National Institute of Standards and Technology Police (NIST Police)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS)
* National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries Office for Law Enforcement (OLE)
Department of Commerce Office of Security (DOCOS)
Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General (DOCOIG)

Department of Defense
Office of Inspector General (DODOIG)
Defense Criminal Investigative Service (DCIS)
Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)
United States Pentagon Police (USPPD)
Department of Defense Police
Defense Logistics Agency Police (DLA)
National Security Agency Police (NSA)
Defense Intelligence Agency Police (DIA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Police (NGA)
Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR)
Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR)

Department of the Army
United States Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID)
United States Army Military Police Corps
Department of the Army Civilian Police
United States Army Corrections Command
Army Counterintelligence (CI), United States Army Intelligence and Security Command

Department of the Navy
Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS)
United States Marine Corps Criminal Investigation Division (USMC CID)
Department of the Navy Police (civilian police)
Marine Corps Provost Marshal's Office (military police)
United States Marine Corps Police (civilian police)
US Navy Master-at-arms (military police)

Department of the Air Force
Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI)
Air Force Security Forces Center (AFSFC)
Air Force Security Forces (military police)
Department of the Air Force Police (civilian police)

Department of Education
Office of the Inspector General (EDOIG)

Department of Energy (DOE)
Office of Inspector General (DOEOIG)
Office of Health, Safety and Security (DOEHSS)
Office of Secure Transportation (OST)

Department of Health and Human Services
United States Food and Drug Administration (HHSFDA)
Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI)
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
National Institutes of Health Police (NIH Police)
Office of Inspector General (HHSOIG)

Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
CBP Officers and Border Patrol Agents at a ceremony in 2007
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC)
National Protection and Programs Directorate
Federal Protective Service (FPS)
United States Coast Guard (USCG)
Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS)
United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
Office of Air and Marine (OAM)
Office of Border Patrol (OBP)
Office of Field Operations (OFO)
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
Enforcement Removal Operations (ERO)
Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)
Office of Intelligence
Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR)
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
United States Secret Service (USSS)
Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
Office of Law Enforcement/Federal Air Marshal Service (OLE/FAMS)
Office of Inspection (OI)
Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General (DHSOIG)

Department of Housing and Urban Development
Office of Inspector General (HUD/OIG) [1][5]
Protective Service Division (HUDPSD)

Department of the Interior (USDI)
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)
Bureau of Indian Affairs Police (BIA Police)
Bureau of Land Management (BLM)
Bureau of Land Management Office of Law Enforcement (BLM Rangers and Special Agents)
Bureau of Reclamation (BOR)
Bureau of Reclamation Office of Law Enforcement (BOR Rangers)
Hoover Dam Police aka Bureau of Reclamation Police
National Park Service (NPS)
Division of Law Enforcement, Security and Emergency Services (U.S. Park Rangers-Law Enforcement)
United States Park Police
Office of Inspector General (DOIOIG)
Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE)
United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS)
Office of Law Enforcement
Division of Refuge Law Enforcement

Department of Justice (USDOJ)
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)
United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) (since 1973)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Federal Bureau of Investigation Police (FBI Police)
Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
Office of Inspector General (DOJOIG)
United States Marshals Service (USMS)

Department of Labor
Office of Inspector General (DOLOIG)

Department of State (DoS)
Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS)
U.S. Diplomatic Security Service (DSS)
Office of Foreign Missions
Office of the Inspector General of the Department of State

Department of Transportation
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Office of Inspector General (DOTOIG)
United States Merchant Marine Academy Department of Public Safety (USMMADPS)
Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation - NHTSA (OFI)

Department of the Treasury
A Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police (BEP) patrol car.
Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP)
Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police (BEP Police)
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN)
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI)
Office of Inspector General (TREASOIG)
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA)
United States Mint Police (USMP)
Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP)

Department of Veterans Affairs
Office of Inspector General (VAOIG)
Veterans Affairs Police

I think he wants something like the Cabanari which is actually a military national police. It would be like if Army MPs patrolled our streets. Not a good idea.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:43:20 AM EDT

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The Carabinieri are a good fit for Italy. I would not like to see that system implemented here.

And a better comparison would be the coast guard.

Posted: 3/21/2016 12:48:37 AM EDT

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The Carabinieri are a good fit for Italy. I would not like to see that system implemented here.

And a better comparison would be the coast guard.

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Close but they are considered part of their military but there is not quite an american equivalent. The Coast Guard is a more apt analogy.

Posted: 3/21/2016 1:17:02 AM EDT

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They aren't responding to 911 calls.

Wrong, they are responding to 911 calls. They are also being given the power to enforce state and local laws under "assimilated acts' granted by local authority. It might not be their primary job right now, but in certain events you would see them in a much different positions. The groundwork was laid out years ago.

The first time I dealt with them as a cop was when they called into dispatch they were behind a vehicle where the registered owner had warrants, and they needed backup. The warrant wasn't federal, it was a state warrant. The vehicle ditched him in a large apartment complex, and I asked him what jail he had planned on booking the suspect if he had caught him. He had been under the assumption (per his superiors) that part was for "local law enforcement" to clean up. I am pretty sure he didn't like me when I finished providing my backup services.

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