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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:03:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our '09 GX470 engine looks very different from the '05 LX470 that I looked at recently. I thought they were different. Or, did earlier GX470s have different engines than newer ones? There are slight differences but they are both a 4.7 2UZ-FE. I think the intakes are different, and the GX is littered with plastic engine bay covers, but it’s the same base motor. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:09:30 AM EDT
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Wife has a 2019 GX, and is making noise about getting an LX.
Plan is to keep the GX, but when are they going to ruin the LX and ditch the V8? Need to get her in one before they fuck them up. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:10:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife has a 2019 GX, and is making noise about getting an LX. Plan is to keep the GX, but when are they going to ruin the LX and ditch the V8? Need to get her in one before they fuck them up. It is refresh season at Toyota so you are going to be fighting the next few years dodging supply issues and new generations. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife has a 2019 GX, and is making noise about getting an LX. Plan is to keep the GX, but when are they going to ruin the LX and ditch the V8? Need to get her in one before they fuck them up. LX? Last year . . . |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:20:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor is the LC is coming back to North America. If it’s the 300 series I’ll be selling my 200 to get one. It might be the smaller LC Prado version in which case I’ll pass. FYI I’m being told it’s a Prado LC and not the true 300 coming to the states. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:22:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife has a 2019 GX, and is making noise about getting an LX. Plan is to keep the GX, but when are they going to ruin the LX and ditch the V8? Need to get her in one before they fuck them up. 2021 was the last year for the 5.7L V8 in the LX. All 22s will have the 3.5l V6 TT |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:51:32 AM EDT
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Time to start making plans to replace the wifes GX460 with a 2022/2023 GX460.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LMAO!!!!!!! You’ll pay that much for a 100k mile ‘03-09 GX 470. That’s also an odd range of years to pick because the 2013 is a lot different than the refreshed ‘14-15. If you want a 2014+ with 100k you’ll need to change that to low $30s. Sure… In 15-20 years. You were right a year ago, but the market is changing as we speak. I've been holding out, cash in hand, waiting for a good deal on a used GX460 and have been following prices. Someone locally sold their 2014 GX460 with 78k miles for $25k. It had nice $3,000 lift, new wheels/tires, all maintenance history, garage kept, and was either a one owner or two owner vehicle (can't remember). It sat for a little over two weeks before it sold. GX460's that were listed at $40k plus 6 months ago are now in the mid to low thirties, and I'm talking 2016-2018 models with sub 70K miles. Even those vehicles are sitting on lots 30 days or more now. Many of the ones I've followed recently in the higher thirties have been sitting over 60-90 days. The 2014-2016's that have been listed recently (under 15 days on market) are dipping into the upper twenties now. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:48:49 PM EDT
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This Car Guru's chart is handy to check pricing trends. The link below is for GX.
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/Lexus-GX-d2063 |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:50:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FYI I'm being told it's a Prado LC and not the true 300 coming to the states. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:30:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You were right a year ago, but the market is changing as we speak. I've been holding out, cash in hand, waiting for a good deal on a used GX460 and have been following prices. Someone locally sold their 2014 GX460 with 78k miles for $25k. It had nice $3,000 lift, new wheels/tires, all maintenance history, garage kept, and was either a one owner or two owner vehicle (can't remember). It sat for a little over two weeks before it sold. GX460's that were listed at $40k plus 6 months ago are now in the mid to low thirties, and I'm talking 2016-2018 models with sub 70K miles. Even those vehicles are sitting on lots 30 days or more now. Many of the ones I've followed recently in the higher thirties have been sitting over 60-90 days. The 2014-2016's that have been listed recently (under 15 days on market) are dipping into the upper twenties now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LMAO!!!!!!! You’ll pay that much for a 100k mile ‘03-09 GX 470. That’s also an odd range of years to pick because the 2013 is a lot different than the refreshed ‘14-15. If you want a 2014+ with 100k you’ll need to change that to low $30s. Sure… In 15-20 years. You were right a year ago, but the market is changing as we speak. I've been holding out, cash in hand, waiting for a good deal on a used GX460 and have been following prices. Someone locally sold their 2014 GX460 with 78k miles for $25k. It had nice $3,000 lift, new wheels/tires, all maintenance history, garage kept, and was either a one owner or two owner vehicle (can't remember). It sat for a little over two weeks before it sold. GX460's that were listed at $40k plus 6 months ago are now in the mid to low thirties, and I'm talking 2016-2018 models with sub 70K miles. Even those vehicles are sitting on lots 30 days or more now. Many of the ones I've followed recently in the higher thirties have been sitting over 60-90 days. The 2014-2016's that have been listed recently (under 15 days on market) are dipping into the upper twenties now. this is what i’m hoping for. A 4-5 year old with ~30-50k miles for $30-$35 otd |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. This is 100% wrong. The GX in the US has always been a 4.6 or 4.7 V8 and on 4runner chassis. The LX and Lancruiser shared the same 4.7 as the GX until the LX570 came around. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 4:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LX? Last year . . . Yep, went and looked and saw that. Oh well, maybe with interest rates up she'll stick with what she has. I told her that the whole point of buying a Toyota was that they last forever, and if she was going to want a new car every 4-5 years she could buy just about any brand. I'll stick to my shitboxes. 
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:32:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a pain in the ass to wash I'm sure there's a lot of grille we don't see. Hopefully better integrated than the GX 460 refresh, but it's corp language for brand recognition, tho Bracken has noted Lexus realizes the styling polarizing, so we can hope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No teaser of the front? Probably because it's made entirely out of grill. Something tells me it's going to be hideous. Hope I'm wrong. Edit: should have read the replies Looks like it might be pretty good looking. Looks like a pain in the ass to wash I'm sure there's a lot of grille we don't see. Hopefully better integrated than the GX 460 refresh, but it's corp language for brand recognition, tho Bracken has noted Lexus realizes the styling polarizing, so we can hope. @Mblades  Attached FileWell not all grille, let's say quite a bit Still I'm encouraged The rest tomorrow 8pm - including the new TX, which is somewhat fetching |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:38:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:52:18 PM EDT
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Looking at a LX570 Saturday and will buy it if it checks out. It'll share garage space with our GX470. They make such well-built and capable SUVS!
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Mblades https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0271_jpeg-2843505.JPG Well not all grille, let's say quite a bit Still I'm encouraged The rest tomorrow 8pm - including the new TX, which is somewhat fetching It’s not a bad attempt at trying to keep the “Lexus look” while also bringing it in line with the Toyotas new design. That being said bring back the days where all bad front ends could be solved with an arb bumper swap. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 8:50:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a bad attempt at trying to keep the "Lexus look" while also bringing it in line with the Toyotas new design. That being said bring back the days where all bad front ends could be solved with an arb bumper swap. When Humphries replaced Fukuichi as CBO, was a bit concerned - he seemed awful esoteric. But his stylings been solid, more evocative and the GX has the right lines for Luxe Off-road. Fukuichi was a spindle stalwart and really didn't deliver the "brand envy" through his styling he touted often. Was not a fan of the FT-1 or the LF-NX, or his entire styling recast. Suga was the first to voice grille revisions I think, but obviously Humphries has done a great job integrating across divisions as you note. Shit I don't even hate the LBX - we'll never get it but would be cool to see the G16E-GTS in one, |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Mblades https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0271_jpeg-2843505.JPG Well not all grille, let's say quite a bit Still I'm encouraged The rest tomorrow 8pm - including the new TX, which is somewhat fetching Trying not to get my hopes up but that looks very much not terrible. Still a lot of splashy water obscuring the front, wonder why 
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:09:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trying not to get my hopes up but that looks very much not terrible. Still a lot of splashy water obscuring the front, wonder why Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Mblades https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0271_jpeg-2843505.JPG Well not all grille, let's say quite a bit Still I'm encouraged The rest tomorrow 8pm - including the new TX, which is somewhat fetching Trying not to get my hopes up but that looks very much not terrible. Still a lot of splashy water obscuring the front, wonder why Poseuring? |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:10:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The GX in the US has always been a 4.6 or 4.7 V8 and on 4runner chassis. The GX470 was a Hilux Surf/4R, the GX460 was a Prado. The Prado is a 7/8 scale Land Cruiser, I like the Prado. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:11:21 PM EDT
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Shit, I'm so glad someone posted this in GD! I was wondering when the GX launch was going to be.
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poseuring? It's not a Toyota 2023 pre-release teaser without hiding at least part of it. I'm sure they could have drug one up to the NE and hidden it's silhouette in the smoke. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:21:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: somewhere is a big inline 6 with a turbo Yes. Jeep Wagoneer. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:56:59 AM EDT
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https://pressroom.lexus.com/coming-june-8-the-all-new-2024-lexus-tx-and-gx/
Media contacts are listed in case you need Matt_Q |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:14:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The GX470 was a Hilux Surf/4R, the GX460 was a Prado. The Prado is a 7/8 scale Land Cruiser, I like the Prado. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The GX in the US has always been a 4.6 or 4.7 V8 and on 4runner chassis. The GX470 was a Hilux Surf/4R, the GX460 was a Prado. The Prado is a 7/8 scale Land Cruiser, I like the Prado. The 470 is also a Prado. The chassis differences between that and the 4R are minimal. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:21:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, I'm so glad someone posted this in GD! I was wondering when the GX launch was going to be. Two things: I do this for most trucks and for other vehicles that have a cult following here. Sorry not sorry for interrupting your feed of tranny threads, Trump threads, and covid/vax threads. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:25:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The GX470 was a Hilux Surf/4R, the GX460 was a Prado. The Prado is a 7/8 scale Land Cruiser, I like the Prado. Wrong. GX470 is a 120 Series LC Prado. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:27:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, I'm so glad someone posted this in GD! I was wondering when the GX launch was going to be. I know everything in Texas is big gay but every thread in GD doesn’t have to be LGBT, trannys, Covid and Ukraine. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:32:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know everything in Texas is big gay but every thread in GD doesn’t have to be LGBT, trannys, Covid and Ukraine. I was assuming this was a setup for him to write his novel on how he went to Brazil once and there no one needs anything more than a Ford Fiesta. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:33:21 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know everything in Texas is big gay but every thread in GD doesn’t have to be LGBT, trannys, Covid and Ukraine. You forgot how nice the Ford/Kia service departments are. That seems to be a recurring thread lately. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:36:33 AM EDT
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I totally would have picked up a gx460 if they didn't require premium fuel.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:42:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I totally would have picked up a gx460 if they didn't require premium fuel. You don't *HAVE* to run Premium as it'll detune itself if you put in Regular. I run Premium though just because I don't want ethanol and we don't have ethanol in Premium around here. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:42:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:59:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. GX470 is a 120 Series LC Prado. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The GX470 was a Hilux Surf/4R, the GX460 was a Prado. The Prado is a 7/8 scale Land Cruiser, I like the Prado. Wrong. GX470 is a 120 Series LC Prado. You'd think that shared platform and content's been well hashed out previously, but few times around appears. Lotsa hints from Toyota model codes - whose convention contains both engine and platform https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toyota_model_codes Keep giving us updates Bass, GD can stand some useful topics occasionally  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:05:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The front reminds me of the back of a McLaren F1 with the slats under the grill. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0271_jpeg-2843505.JPG https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/images/news-article/carousel/2020/08/3e627652f67b1346beaa47934186d2f7/5_square_rear.jpg From now to the end of time, this may be the only comparison ever made between the F1 and GX. F1 is my "FU Money" car, by the way. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 12:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was behind an LX600 yesterday. Real boxy looking from the rear. GX looks to be following that trend. I've been seeing a bunch of LX600's around here but it's pretty common to see the brand newest Land Cruiser or Lexus here before they hit the US. The new 2022-2023 Land Cruisers are a dime a dozen here now. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:13:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:17:10 PM EDT
[#39]
Fuck that’s ugly
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:25:24 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that’s ugly Have you seen the current gen? They're great trucks, but nobody has ever accused them of being attractive. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that’s ugly I mean.... not as ugly as the current. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:30:31 PM EDT
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I don't hate it.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe badge on the back of that clearly says GX 550. 550... 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:31:02 PM EDT
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Looks......British.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:32:56 PM EDT
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Still hasn't answered the most important question:
Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The badge on the back of that clearly says GX 550. 550... https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimGraciousGrub-size_restricted.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: The badge on the back of that clearly says GX 550. 550... https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimGraciousGrub-size_restricted.gif That's it - glad someone can post it GX550 been registered since sometime in 2021 - unlike most of the visual in the fake renders, 550 been pretty sure for a couple years. . . But significance?  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:40:17 PM EDT
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Made in Japan?
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still hasn't answered the most important question: Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:47:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I have a 2023 in the driveway. I wanted the 23 before the 24's come out. They will be moving away from the V8 I'm seriously considering getting a 2023 model. "last of the v8s" They finally added CarPlay which is something I want. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still hasn't answered the most important question: Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window. When Toyota sent me the marketing questionnaire after I bought my 2022 4Runner, I was sure to mark the rear window as one of the valued features. 
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