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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:31:21 AM EDT
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@FriskyDillo
Can you co-witness irons with the low mount? I was thinking of using the high rise mount since it's open with a window. Just playing with the gun stuff. Starting to feel at home.   Attached File |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:34:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:36:02 AM EDT
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5 min ago.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:39:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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I pointed this out many pages ago when NASAMS was being shipped to Ukraine.
 From the photo posted by the Ukrainian Air Force, bottom right corner of a NASAMS launcher, they are using the old AIM-120B. These were first delivered in 1994 for reference.
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-120.html The AIM-120B, which was first delivered in late 1994, had a new WGU-41/B guidance section. It had software in reprogrammable EPROM modules, a new digital processor and other electronics updates. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:39:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1878-2874292.jpg  Attached FileGood! Finally a leader steps up and calls them on it. Hope it shames more leaders into taking action. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:44:25 AM EDT
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Woo twitter is working
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MT, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: @FriskyDillo Can you co-witness irons with the low mount? I was thinking of using the high rise mount since it's open with a window. Just playing with the gun stuff. Starting to feel at home. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230705_182810_jpg-2874478.JPG @Easterner Yes and no. It doesn't co-witness when the rear iron is on the 0-3 rungs of the ladder, but it sort of does when the rear iron is set on the +400 meters rungs. The top of the front sight is sort of visible so you could use the red dot as a big ghost-ring if needed. I think its supposed to co-witness, but it may just be the rail I'm using and my AK is a yugo pattern, for what that is worth. I'll double check and take some photos tonight after I get home from work. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:48:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FriskyDillo: @Easterner Yes and no. It doesn't co-witness when the rear iron is on the 0-3 rungs of the ladder, but it sort of does when the rear iron is set on the +400 meters rungs. The top of the front sight is sort of visible so you could use the red dot as a big ghost-ring if needed. I think its supposed to co-witness, but it may just be the rail I'm using and my AK is a yugo pattern, for what that is worth. I'll double check and take some photos tonight after I get home from work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FriskyDillo: Originally Posted By Easterner: @FriskyDillo Can you co-witness irons with the low mount? I was thinking of using the high rise mount since it's open with a window. Just playing with the gun stuff. Starting to feel at home. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230705_182810_jpg-2874478.JPG @Easterner Yes and no. It doesn't co-witness when the rear iron is on the 0-3 rungs of the ladder, but it sort of does when the rear iron is set on the +400 meters rungs. The top of the front sight is sort of visible so you could use the red dot as a big ghost-ring if needed. I think its supposed to co-witness, but it may just be the rail I'm using and my AK is a yugo pattern, for what that is worth. I'll double check and take some photos tonight after I get home from work. Thanks, just curious. I won't be locktiting anything just yet. Once I'm issued my weapon I'll have some time at the shooting range to test things out. I get to test out all this Ukrainian gear and report back to you guys. Someone tell Igor to call me. I don't want him to lose a customer. 
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:53:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Volnovakha Donetsk region... 30 minutes ago, something flew into the administration building Russian occupied Donbas First images.  
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:54:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Charging_Handle]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: Refurbish and upgrade half of the tanks Lima has been. That sort of thing is a defense issue, and should not be determined strictly by the cost benefit analysis of the moment. The last question to answer before closing such a plant should always be "what happens if shit hits the fan"?. Some things can be done efficiently elsewhere, or rebuilt quickly, other things can't. Yup, and/or have them work on something else by spreading the contracts around giving more folks a slice of the pie. GD started producing Strykers not long after the Detroit plant closed. We could have given Lima the tank deal and Detroit the Stryker deal, that way the trained work force and production facilities could have remained in place. Perhaps this was a GD thing more so than a U.S. government driven decision. Sure, it would be swell for GD Land Systems to consolidate everything under one roof and reduce operating expenses while perhaps increasing efficiencies. But was that decision in the best interests of the nation as a whole? This is the kind of thing we need to pay more attention to and be more careful about. I would personally like to see at least two production facilities up and running for every major piece of military equipment we have in service. And even more ideally, those two facilities would be operated by different parent companies. Don't allow any single contractor to have a monopoly on producing a given system. If you do, they are going to do whatever makes them the most profit and often times, the end result isn't what is best for the country. I liked the old days when you might have 4 or 5 different companies producing the same weapons system, rather than a single company having a sole source contract for that equipment. IMO, the former is far better for the overall health of the defense industry as it pertains to protecting the nation. It drives down prices paid for equipment because there is more competition. It provides a safety mechanism, since destroying a single production line wouldn't knock out the entire production capacity for a given system. You have a much larger workforce trained and in place, as it is spread across multiple contractors. So when a greater need arises, your surge capacity is actually tenfold what it otherwise would be. The way we do things these days, we are basically leaving the foxes (contractors) in charge of henhouse security (national security). And the foxes are going to do what foxes do. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:55:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:56:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toybasher: Is it likely a good chunk of these prisoners will defect/go AWOL? I.E. once unsupervised, some will simply run off because they don't want to fight? Mainly the prisoners. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toybasher: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Fucking twitter. https://twitter.com/TreasChest/status/1676586465470431239 The Russian Federation is preparing to send even more Chechen soldiers and prisoners to Ukraine to fill the gaps that arose after the withdrawal of the "Wagner" PMC fighters - Bloomberg with reference to representatives of European intelligence. In their opinion, the departure of the Wagnerites will not change the course of the war in Ukraine, but the desire of Russian President Vladimir Putin to avoid full military mobilization means that Moscow will send even more Chechens and prisoners to the front line in the coming weeks. It is not known how many additional troops Chechnya may provide. Chechen militants have not yet demonstrated any noticeable effectiveness during the war. Currently, there are about 15,000 prisoners in the ranks of the Russian army. Chechnya will not send many troops to war - 7,000 of its soldiers are already at the front, and another 2,400 are undergoing training. http://ZN.UA The zeks are the cannon fodder, the Goatfuckers are the blocking troops, 21st Century NKVD. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:57:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
 Attached FileA note for the untwittered. Twitter is working again. The feeds on profile pages don't populate but you can now view tweets from their direct links. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:59:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. 😂😂😂 |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:00:21 PM EDT
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 Russia Accused of Using Lethal Chemical Weapons!! 5 July 23 Ukraine Daily Update Conversation about *accusation* Russia now using the chemical weapon lewisite gas in Vohledar, starts at 3:00. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. 😂😂😂 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. 😂😂😂 It's amazing they store MLRS rounds like this.  
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:09:18 PM EDT
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 A shark swam to the beach in Florida, but not finding a single Russian among the swimmers, he swam away hungry. What humane sharks went ... https://t.me/mertviorku/3111 |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_3343-2874491.jpg A shark swam to the beach in Florida, but not finding a single Russian among the swimmers, he swam away hungry. What humane sharks went ... https://t.me/mertviorku/3111  |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Beyond bizarre Why wouldn’t they just bury them or plow over a trench? Unless they are sending the remains to be rendered for whatever - glue, soap, oils, animal feed? And it’s probably something the orcs have been doing since the days of Stalin I’d bet. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:27:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It's amazing they store MLRS rounds like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0R9HgdXgAElhDX?format=jpg&name=large This goes with the previous post- I bet they didn’t even know they were handling lewisite rounds. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:27:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3Trip]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:  Pitiful. reminds me of this moment in Patton about the German's using carts. quote starts at 1:25  Patton - I Love It More Than My Life now swap carts with technicals |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: This Moscow boy needed 4 attempts before finally succeeding in committing suicide /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/D2B81D48-99F5-45D6-811C-53B35C0076AA-706.gif NSFW! Not safe for a workplace that sucks! I’m sure it’s Russian doctrine now to just off yourself because no one is coming to help you if you’re wounded and if you do make it back to your line, no evac will be provided. I struggle to comprehend this. Despite all our warts, love and honor for one another, in the military, is present. We will move mountains to evac an American serviceman. Russian life is worth a 9 cent, 7.62x39. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:34:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Capture procedure shown POV in Bakhmut.
Shorter version of earlier SAC video. https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1676573125599739904 https://t.me/supernova_plus/21817 |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: It's good that our little spat worked out pretty good in the end.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By UKjohn: Need to do some stuff then off to bed . To my American brothers, Happy Independence Day. Have a great time and if you play with splody stuff keep your fingers out of the way  It's good that our little spat worked out pretty good in the end. but "A republic, if you can keep it" |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:40:23 PM EDT
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Good video of UA troops advancing through a wood line and trenches near the recently liberated Klishchiivka.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:44:20 PM EDT
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Stronk goes bonk! Ruble goes rubble!
2023 is the destruction of the Russian Crime Empire.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:44:20 PM EDT
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1 hr ago.
The place is not under Ukrainian control despite the panic among Russians. Ukrainians have managed to occupy a dominant height, very fortified, just at the entrance of the village per Russian sources. My understanding is: for the Russians in Klichshiivka it is either surrender or die. There are no escape routes that are not mined or where the Kadyrovites blocking troops are not present. We need to be patient a tad more. UA = fortified area captured by Ukrainians  |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:45:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0SKEzDX0AAKaaO?format=jpg&name=900x900 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago. The place is not under Ukrainian control despite the panic among Russians. Ukrainians have managed to occupy a dominant height, very fortified, just at the entrance of the village per Russian sources. My understanding is: for the Russians in Klichshiivka it is either surrender or die. There are no escape routes that are not mined or where the Kadyrovites blocking troops are not present. We need to be patient a tad more. UA = fortified area captured by Ukrainians https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0SKEzDX0AAKaaO?format=jpg&name=900x900 I wonder to where they moved the command center that was in Klishchiivka? |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Beyond bizarre Why wouldn't they just bury them or plow over a trench? Unless they are sending the remains to be rendered for whatever - glue, soap, oils, animal feed? And it's probably something the orcs have been doing since the days of Stalin I'd bet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Beyond bizarre Why wouldn't they just bury them or plow over a trench? Unless they are sending the remains to be rendered for whatever - glue, soap, oils, animal feed? And it's probably something the orcs have been doing since the days of Stalin I'd bet. The UN has a habit of digging up mass graves to prosecute the villains. I would guess the plan is to ship the pallet to an incinerator to eliminate all evidence. Who's acting like the Nazis here? |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:49:58 PM EDT
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That admin building might have been an FSB center.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:53:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. 😂😂😂 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. 😂😂😂 Their sloppiness worked out well for the Good Guys - that was a hell of a secondary blast. Plus the missiles flying off unguided was insane. I hope that area was relatively free of civilians but full of orcs. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 12:57:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: The UN has a habit of digging up mass graves to prosecute the villains. I would guess the plan is to ship the pallet to an incinerator to eliminate all evidence. Who's acting like the Nazis here? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Beyond bizarre Why wouldn't they just bury them or plow over a trench? Unless they are sending the remains to be rendered for whatever - glue, soap, oils, animal feed? And it's probably something the orcs have been doing since the days of Stalin I'd bet. The UN has a habit of digging up mass graves to prosecute the villains. I would guess the plan is to ship the pallet to an incinerator to eliminate all evidence. Who's acting like the Nazis here? Then why not burn in place? They don’t seem to have the logistics to be trucking around much of anything reliably |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:02:07 PM EDT
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Bradley's are saving lives.
Twitter Link "During the battle, there were 3 crew members and 5 paratroopers in the BMP. All survived after a direct hit by a tank shell" |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:03:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Then why not burn in place? They don't seem to have the logistics to be trucking around much of anything reliably Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Beyond bizarre Why wouldn't they just bury them or plow over a trench? Unless they are sending the remains to be rendered for whatever - glue, soap, oils, animal feed? And it's probably something the orcs have been doing since the days of Stalin I'd bet. The UN has a habit of digging up mass graves to prosecute the villains. I would guess the plan is to ship the pallet to an incinerator to eliminate all evidence. Who's acting like the Nazis here? Then why not burn in place? They don't seem to have the logistics to be trucking around much of anything reliably Burning beyond recognition is one thing but to turn to ash powder with no bones takes a crematorium. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I wonder to where they moved the command center that was in Klashchiivka? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago. The place is not under Ukrainian control despite the panic among Russians. Ukrainians have managed to occupy a dominant height, very fortified, just at the entrance of the village per Russian sources. My understanding is: for the Russians in Klichshiivka it is either surrender or die. There are no escape routes that are not mined or where the Kadyrovites blocking troops are not present. We need to be patient a tad more. UA = fortified area captured by Ukrainians https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0SKEzDX0AAKaaO?format=jpg&name=900x900 I wonder to where they moved the command center that was in Klashchiivka? To be honest, since Ukrainian forces were aware of it, it may have been hit. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Bradley's are saving lives.
Twitter Link "During the battle, there were 3 crew members and 5 paratroopers in the BMP. All survived after a direct hit by a tank shell" |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Yup, and/or have them work on something else by spreading the contracts around giving more folks a slice of the pie. GD started producing Strykers not long after the Detroit plant closed. We could have given Lima the tank deal and Detroit the Stryker deal, that way the trained work force and production facilities could have remained in place. Perhaps this was a GD thing more so than a U.S. government driven decision. Sure, it would be swell for GD Land Systems to consolidate everything under one roof and reduce operating expenses while perhaps increasing efficiencies. But was that decision in the best interests of the nation as a whole? This is the kind of thing we need to pay more attention to and be more careful about. I would personally like to see at least two production facilities up and running for every major piece of military equipment we have in service. And even more ideally, those two facilities would be operated by different parent companies. Don't allow any single contractor to have a monopoly on producing a given system. If you do, they are going to do whatever makes them the most profit and often times, the end result isn't what is best for the country. I liked the old days when you might have 4 or 5 different companies producing the same weapons system, rather than a single company having a sole source contract for that equipment. IMO, the former is far better for the overall health of the defense industry as it pertains to protecting the nation. It drives down prices paid for equipment because there is more competition. It provides a safety mechanism, since destroying a single production line wouldn't knock out the entire production capacity for a given system. You have a much larger workforce trained and in place, as it is spread across multiple contractors. So when a greater need arises, your surge capacity is actually tenfold what it otherwise would be. The way we do things these days, we are basically leaving the foxes (contractors) in charge of henhouse security (national security). And the foxes are going to do what foxes do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Lightning_P38: Refurbish and upgrade half of the tanks Lima has been. That sort of thing is a defense issue, and should not be determined strictly by the cost benefit analysis of the moment. The last question to answer before closing such a plant should always be "what happens if shit hits the fan"?. Some things can be done efficiently elsewhere, or rebuilt quickly, other things can't. Yup, and/or have them work on something else by spreading the contracts around giving more folks a slice of the pie. GD started producing Strykers not long after the Detroit plant closed. We could have given Lima the tank deal and Detroit the Stryker deal, that way the trained work force and production facilities could have remained in place. Perhaps this was a GD thing more so than a U.S. government driven decision. Sure, it would be swell for GD Land Systems to consolidate everything under one roof and reduce operating expenses while perhaps increasing efficiencies. But was that decision in the best interests of the nation as a whole? This is the kind of thing we need to pay more attention to and be more careful about. I would personally like to see at least two production facilities up and running for every major piece of military equipment we have in service. And even more ideally, those two facilities would be operated by different parent companies. Don't allow any single contractor to have a monopoly on producing a given system. If you do, they are going to do whatever makes them the most profit and often times, the end result isn't what is best for the country. I liked the old days when you might have 4 or 5 different companies producing the same weapons system, rather than a single company having a sole source contract for that equipment. IMO, the former is far better for the overall health of the defense industry as it pertains to protecting the nation. It drives down prices paid for equipment because there is more competition. It provides a safety mechanism, since destroying a single production line wouldn't knock out the entire production capacity for a given system. You have a much larger workforce trained and in place, as it is spread across multiple contractors. So when a greater need arises, your surge capacity is actually tenfold what it otherwise would be. The way we do things these days, we are basically leaving the foxes (contractors) in charge of henhouse security (national security). And the foxes are going to do what foxes do. Like at the beginning of the War on Terror when the US couldn't produce enough small arms ammo and had to source it through everyone under the sun because they'd scrapped out the reserve plants? |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It's amazing they store MLRS rounds like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0R9HgdXgAElhDX?format=jpg&name=large Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. It's amazing they store MLRS rounds like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0R9HgdXgAElhDX?format=jpg&name=large At least those are sitting on boxes. The ones to the left off screen are just plopped in the dirt. Ukraine needs to send some SF after the troops who thought to use the boxes and eliminate them, lest they evolve into using pallets. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: At least those are sitting on boxes. The ones to the left off screen are just plopped in the dirt. Ukraine needs to send some SF after the troops who thought to use the boxes and eliminate them, lest they evolve into using pallets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Stronk Russia always disguises its weapons, trenches and munitions as trash heaps. It's amazing they store MLRS rounds like this. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0R9HgdXgAElhDX?format=jpg&name=large At least those are sitting on boxes. The ones to the left off screen are just plopped in the dirt. Ukraine needs to send some SF after the troops who thought to use the boxes and eliminate them, lest they evolve into using pallets. lol, good point.
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ROXbiXwAIRNSA?format=jpg&name=900x900 Might be true or not. China could falsely take credit just to give them leverage. They could also falsely imply that Russia was ready to use nukes to give Russia’s threats greater leverage. No way to tell, and doesn’t matter. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:23:57 PM EDT
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"Minus one cannon dozens of lives saved." How the 25th brigade hits the enemy by Kreminna
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: At least those are sitting on boxes. The ones to the left off screen are just plopped in the dirt. Ukraine needs to send some SF after the troops who thought to use the boxes and eliminate them, lest they evolve into using pallets.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:25:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Might be true or not. China could falsely take credit just to give them leverage. They could also falsely imply that Russia was ready to use nukes to give Russia's threats greater leverage. No way to tell, and doesn't matter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ROXbiXwAIRNSA?format=jpg&name=900x900 Might be true or not. China could falsely take credit just to give them leverage. They could also falsely imply that Russia was ready to use nukes to give Russia's threats greater leverage. No way to tell, and doesn't matter. If a nuke drops on Moscow China gets everything east of the radiation zone. Part of me thinks they wouldn't mind seeing a western nuclear reprisal. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Might be true or not. China could falsely take credit just to give them leverage. They could also falsely imply that Russia was ready to use nukes to give Russia’s threats greater leverage. No way to tell, and doesn’t matter. I wonder what Russia got in return |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:41:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest Ukrainian govt. tweet this morning.
There’s almost nothing there that needs testing, so this expense can’t go in the testing budget. It goes on the marketing budget. 
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:57:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Like at the beginning of the War on Terror when the US couldn't produce enough small arms ammo and had to source it through everyone under the sun because they'd scrapped out the reserve plants? Yup, exactly. Today, we have one small arms ammunition manufacturing plant (Lake City) making ammo for our military. During the Vietnam War we had 4 plants like Lake City producing small arms ammunition for the military. During WWII there were probably 20 or 25 such plants. I have no problem with allowing civilian owned companies to operate the government ammunition plants under contract. But putting all of our eggs into the Lake City basket should have never happened. Was this solely a government decision? Or did Federal/ATK or whoever had the contract at that time have a large hand in moving all the production to one plant? I'm sure ATK would have preferred to consolidate everything beneath one roof. That makes things so much easier for them, so much more affordable. But ATK doesn't need to have much in the way of influence on the decision about how many ammunition plants the government needs to have active. ATK is going to do what is best for ATK. Sometimes that isn't necessarily what is best for the country. If ATK is given a contract to produce small arms ammo, then ATK should be required to do so across multiple government owned production facilities. And if they can't or won't, then issue another contract to a different company that will. Or do multiple contracts with multiple companies, with each being put in charge of operating a specific plant. Let Winchester/Olin manage Lake City. Put Federal/ATK in charge of Twin Cities. You might even have a third company operating Frankford Arsenal. But whatever the solution, never should we put all of our small arms ammo manufacturing into a single plant. We need the redundancy and at times we will need the capacity. In the leaner times, allow these companies to make ammo for foreign militaries or even the civilian market to keep things going. |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 1:58:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQFQFVTEvEConversation about *accusation* Russia now using the chemical weapon lewisite gas in Vohledar, starts at 3:00. Revive the old posters 
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Posted: 7/5/2023 2:00:40 PM EDT
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Mercado is live streaming part of his drive through Europe to deliver trucks to Ukraine
 Poland Road Trip Stream - Onward to Ukraine! |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 2:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0RKPOiXwAAZIMx?format=jpg&name=900x900 Is ole Dmitry still alive? |
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Posted: 7/5/2023 2:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft: Revive the old posters https://s3.amazonaws.com/pastperfectonline/images/museum_428/199/1963038004.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft: Originally Posted By stone-age: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQFQFVTEvEConversation about *accusation* Russia now using the chemical weapon lewisite gas in Vohledar, starts at 3:00. Revive the old posters https://s3.amazonaws.com/pastperfectonline/images/museum_428/199/1963038004.jpg |
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