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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:01:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Who all trains here?
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Who all trains here?


What’s the possibility of it also being a depot for all the arms coming in from Poland considering it’s proximity?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:03:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Element94:

Thats the body of the journalist. Look at post #29 on this page.
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
A dead Russian Nazi in Ukraine to rid Ukraine of Nazis

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-13_08-35-36_png-2311685.JPG

Thats the body of the journalist. Look at post #29 on this page.


nope, Brent Renaud has a fleece pullover on.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:03:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Birddog15:




Came here to say this.  I think what he is getting at is that even though old folks spend less, politicians tend to print money to take care of them. There are not enough young workers paying taxes to take care of all the aging boomers.  In the real world where decisions are made based on political considerations, demographics CAN drive economics.




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Originally Posted By Suburbanhillbilly:
People's disposable income and spending have nothing to do with it. But because Social Security and Medicare depend on the taxes levied on the next generation, the relative numbers between those two groups is certainly critical. And if the retiring generation is larger than the tax paying generation, that is unsustainable without some degree of inflationary policies.
The govt must borrow (sell bonds), or print. They just use the Fed to make all that easier for themselves.

But as for what you're saying about Russia and the cold war, yes. Anything could happen. A Serb could assasinate an Archduke and start the ball rolling. Could. But it's not likely.

And if you'd not been so quick to dismiss the rest of the lecture, you'd get that. Russia ~ and China ~ will not be likely to feed themselves, much less take over the free world.





Came here to say this.  I think what he is getting at is that even though old folks spend less, politicians tend to print money to take care of them. There are not enough young workers paying taxes to take care of all the aging boomers.  In the real world where decisions are made based on political considerations, demographics CAN drive economics.






Take this shit to the inflation thread
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:03:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis:
A few other thoughts about global thermonuclear war. First of all, if it happens at all, there won't be any nonsense about limited this, and restrained ROE bullshit. The first time someone lets a nuke loose in anger, every other nuclear power on the planet is going to freak and use theirs before they lose them. Weapon accuracy CEP is like <100 meters now, so no one has any launch sites that can survive that, so it's immediately launch now or forever hold your peace. With reference to ground based ICBM sites in fixed locations. You can't exactly keep them secret anymore.
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Many people think it’s just the US and Russia launching at each other.

Once one Nuke goes off they all get launched.

Russia will launch them at U.S., Europe, China, Australia,

China will launch at U.S., Australia, Russia, etc

India will launch at Pakistan and China.

Israel will nuke Iran, etc

It’s not like Russia would nuke us and allow China not to get nuked.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:04:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:



You do you.

This shit happens on my soil, I'm not taking prisoners.

Geneva convention? I stopped being bound by that the day I got my dd.

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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Originally Posted By cryo_tech:



For the 10th time.

They are bombing hospitals, targeting civilians.

Stop.... Taking.... Prisoners....

For the 10th time, when you surrender, you are a POW.  You don't fight war crimes with war crimes in the court of public opinion.  Which is the only way Ukraine wins this war.



You do you.

This shit happens on my soil, I'm not taking prisoners.

Geneva convention? I stopped being bound by that the day I got my dd.



POWs are one thing.  It would ultimately mean terrible PR.
However, the spies, the agents that dress in Ukr. uniform and then deploy with the idea to sabotage something are not covered by the Geneva convention.  

They should line them up against the wall and have it broadcast all over the world. Maybe that will deter the other groups that they constantly send. Ukrainians have been way too nice actually. Try that with Russia and see what happens.  They will send you to Gulag for 30 years best-case scenario.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:06:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Element94:

Thats the body of the journalist. Look at post #29 on this page.
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
A dead Russian Nazi in Ukraine to rid Ukraine of Nazis

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-13_08-35-36_png-2311685.JPG

Thats the body of the journalist. Look at post #29 on this page.

Pretty sure it's 2 different people.  The Nazi has a turtleneck-thing on.

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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:06:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

The Germans in WWII had a badge for individual tank kills. This was earned the old fashioned way by running up to the tank and attaching a bomb or climbing on and using grenades.  Some dudes had so many on their sleeve they had no room for more badges.
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Precisely what I was referring to.

Since they are nazis and all
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:07:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


nope, Brent Renaud has a fleece pullover on.
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Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:08:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

Pretty sure it's 2 different people.  The Nazi has a turtleneck-thing on.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122973/Screenshot_from_2022-03-13_09-05-55_png-2311710.JPG
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Damn!! Hell of a coincidence!!!
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:09:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Eventually, Russia could “win,” in that they could take (or destroy) most of the cities and the Government of Ukraine could fall (or go into exile).

An insurgency will rage.  There will be no more prisoners taken at that point.  Quislings will be assassinated.  

In the end Russia will not be able to keep Ukraine.
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Plus 1

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:09:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Element94:

Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By Chokey:


nope, Brent Renaud has a fleece pullover on.

Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.
Because Lord knows, two different people can't possibly wear similar color combos, especially in the same country.

The reporter is wearing fleece over a blue/black t-shirt, the Russian is wearing a knit pullover over a brown t-shirt over a blue or black cold weather undershirt. they're not even the same color green.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:11:01 AM EDT
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Hard bunker shelters and military installations are basically obsolete in terms of a nuclear war situation. The weapons are just too damn accurate now. There's been a war between armor and weapons for ten thousand years, and so far the clear winner is an accurately delivered nuke. it's literally the ultimate trump card weapon, because we have no ability to make armor that can withstand even a small nuke. If it' blows right there, like. We literally have no idea at all how to build anything out of any known combinations of materials  that can survive a direct nukular splosion.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:11:50 AM EDT
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Hope and a bit of progress, and leverage of winning battles.



Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:12:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Element94:

Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.
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Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By Chokey:


nope, Brent Renaud has a fleece pullover on.

Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.


Dead nazi has dark blue undershirt and camo undershirt under fleece. American has black shirt under fleece
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:12:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By absael:
IMO F-15s and F-16s would run wild on them.
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Originally Posted By rgkeller:
Any Russian invasion of a NATO country will be with no air cover and constant attacks on their staging areas and supply train.

Pure folly. If Putin is stupid enough to do that, he will,do anything

F-22s and F-35s would run wild on their forces.
IMO F-15s and F-16s would run wild on them.





After the s300 and other AA systems had there AGM-88 appointments
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:13:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Abakan:


You never read Sun Tzu, right?
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Originally Posted By Abakan:
Originally Posted By cryo_tech:



For the 10th time.

They are bombing hospitals, targeting civilians.

Stop.... Taking.... Prisoners....


You never read Sun Tzu, right?



Hundreds surrender every day and these numb nuts want to give them a reason to fight to the death lmao
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:13:43 AM EDT
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Renaud exit wound was right side occiptal/temporal, that’s why he’s on the side of the road, and why they took a picture from the left side.

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:15:32 AM EDT
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In the area of ​​Gostomel orcs decided to build pontoon crossings.

Our Cossacks toasted them a little.

Glory of the Nation 🇺🇦

https://t.me/irpininteresting/4259

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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:16:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Because Lord knows, two different people can't possibly wear similar color combos, especially in the same country.

The reporter is wearing fleece over a blue/black t-shirt, the Russian is wearing a knit pullover over a brown t-shirt over a blue or black cold weather undershirt. they're not even the same color green.
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Color could be due to photo processing but it doesn't look like the same ribbing pattern on the pullover.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:17:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Many people think it’s just the US and Russia launching at each other.

Once one Nuke goes off they all get launched.

Russia will launch them at U.S., Europe, China, Australia,

China will launch at U.S., Australia, Russia, etc

India will launch at Pakistan and China.

Israel will nuke Iran, etc

It’s not like Russia would nuke us and allow China not to get nuked.
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis:
A few other thoughts about global thermonuclear war. First of all, if it happens at all, there won't be any nonsense about limited this, and restrained ROE bullshit. The first time someone lets a nuke loose in anger, every other nuclear power on the planet is going to freak and use theirs before they lose them. Weapon accuracy CEP is like <100 meters now, so no one has any launch sites that can survive that, so it's immediately launch now or forever hold your peace. With reference to ground based ICBM sites in fixed locations. You can't exactly keep them secret anymore.


Many people think it’s just the US and Russia launching at each other.

Once one Nuke goes off they all get launched.

Russia will launch them at U.S., Europe, China, Australia,

China will launch at U.S., Australia, Russia, etc

India will launch at Pakistan and China.

Israel will nuke Iran, etc

It’s not like Russia would nuke us and allow China not to get nuked.


There's a guy working on a simulator for this, this is assuming all missiles work, no failures, and no intercepted missiles.

Nuclear War Simulator - First Look

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:17:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Because Lord knows, two different people can't possibly wear similar color combos, especially in the same country.

The reporter is wearing fleece over a blue/black t-shirt, the Russian is wearing a knit pullover over a brown t-shirt over a blue or black cold weather undershirt. they're not even the same color green.
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 In his defense,some hopeless dullard couldn’t tell that 2 photos of Zelensky were taken at different times and therefore came to the conclusion that Fox News edited the Nazi symbol off his shirt so it’s not actually the dumbest thing anyone has regarding  about different color green shirts on Arf in the past 24 hours 🤷🏼‍♂️
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:21:40 AM EDT
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So NATO IS getting too close to Ukraine.

That's it Ukraine had it coming.

Just kidding, slava ukraini.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:22:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankSL:



If it’s such a shitty peasant design why did non-Warsaw Pact states such as South Africa, Finland, and Israel use a variant of it?

Good AKs are more accurate than people think. Shitty irons don’t help it.
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Because it works. In the real world, very few firefights at the tactical level involve super shooter benchrester types exchanging fire at 400+ yards. Anyone can hit people in a 1200 square foot building, which is about 4x the distance of most actual firefights.
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T-90 knocked out by the Ukrainian army - Video at Link

Shtora self-defese system took a shitora
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And whoever SHOOTS FIRST has a decided advantage in almost every scenario.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:26:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



If you follow the big  OSINT accounts on Twitter you'll catch most of them.
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


Damn I hate this thread, can’t read every page and so I miss the cool links.



If you follow the big  OSINT accounts on Twitter you'll catch most of them.


@Star_Scream

Share the wealth.  

What does your OSINT list look like?  I'd like to compare.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:27:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Because Lord knows, two different people can't possibly wear similar color combos, especially in the same country.

The reporter is wearing fleece over a blue/black t-shirt, the Russian is wearing a knit pullover over a brown t-shirt over a blue or black cold weather undershirt. they're not even the same color green.
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By Chokey:


nope, Brent Renaud has a fleece pullover on.

Its a green fleece pullover. Did you look at post 29? He has the same blue/black undershirt.
Because Lord knows, two different people can't possibly wear similar color combos, especially in the same country.

The reporter is wearing fleece over a blue/black t-shirt, the Russian is wearing a knit pullover over a brown t-shirt over a blue or black cold weather undershirt. they're not even the same color green.

You need to drink decaf .
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:28:32 AM EDT
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Oh dear God

Why?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:29:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:


@Star_Scream

Share the wealth.  

What does your OSINT list look like?  I'd like to compare.
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Originally Posted By whollyshite:
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


Damn I hate this thread, can’t read every page and so I miss the cool links.



If you follow the big  OSINT accounts on Twitter you'll catch most of them.


@Star_Scream

Share the wealth.  

What does your OSINT list look like?  I'd like to compare.

I follow these

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical
https://twitter.com/sentdefender
https://twitter.com/bot_osint
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:31:35 AM EDT
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Positive signals on both sides coming out of negotiations.

Ukrainians are in the difficult position of not upsetting their donors and supporters by agreeing to Russian appeasement, Russia just needs an agreement that upholds their initial goals (no NATO in Ukraine).

Peace is the prize for Ukraine. For Russia, it's an agreement to not let Ukraine join NATO.


Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:31:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


There's a guy working on a simulator for this, this is assuming all missiles work, no failures, and no intercepted missiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55x11a0aKtY
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He posted the maximum damage scenaro for the US on twitter:

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:34:06 AM EDT
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not great, not terrible
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Originally Posted By Pred:
Chernobyl update?


not great, not terrible

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:34:24 AM EDT
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Active Air force officer looks at " No Fly Zones"  Not recommended

No Fly Zones - Does a No Fly Zone Over Ukraine Make Sense
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:43:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:


1/2 the population of the Donbass is not happy with the deal they got. The other half are brainwashed.
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Now would be a good time to liquidate them once Ukraine gets the upper hand. Russia and its little puppets in Crimea and Donbass are waging a war of extermination. It’s time to clean out the rats nests.
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Originally Posted By Vinnland:

He posted the maximum damage scenaro for the US on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNsKR_OVsAMkRHY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Most up to date map I've seen posted thus far. Burlington, VT, Bangor, Me, Bath Iron Works, and Portsmouth Naval Shipyard all targeted.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:47:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Positive signals on both sides coming out of negotiations.

Ukrainians are in the difficult position of not upsetting their donors and supporters by agreeing to Russian appeasement, Russia just needs an agreement that upholds their initial goals (no NATO in Ukraine).

Peace is the prize for Ukraine. For Russia, it's an agreement to not let Ukraine join NATO.


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Keeping Ukraine out of nato is a red herring since they weren’t getting brought in.  Also, that agreement would be as useful as the one where Russia promised not to invade inf they gave up their nukes.
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Originally Posted By kbi:


https://c.tenor.com/htlzZKVciZ8AAAAC/a10-gunrun.gif


After the s300 and other AA systems had there AGM-88 appointments
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The A-10 is as formidable as Russian armor
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


Agreed. Feels like China is sitting back and taking a lot of notes right now for their next play.
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Originally Posted By W_E_G:
Originally Posted By thesilvercord:



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/1A23C137-B96B-445D-82AC-00FF509D885B_jpe-2311692.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/9CA3EB46-8994-4732-9CD3-8C4C0F8BF52F_jpe-2311693.JPG


Agreed. Feels like China is sitting back and taking a lot of notes right now for their next play.


TL;DR: China chooses how this plays out and has a two week-ish window to make a choice. Align with the west to achieve peace or align with Russia and sign up for war.

Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China’s Choice

by US-China Perception Monitor

March 12, 2022  

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Hu Wei is the vice-chairman of the Public Policy Research Center of the Counselor’s Office of the State Council, the chairman of Shanghai Public Policy Research Association, the chairman of the Academic Committee of the Chahar Institute, a professor, and a doctoral supervisor. To read more by Hu, click here to read his article on “How did Deng Xiaoping coordinate domestic and international affairs?”

Written on March 5, 2022.

Translated by Jiaqi Liu on March 12, 2022.

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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Positive signals on both sides coming out of negotiations.

Ukrainians are in the difficult position of not upsetting their donors and supporters by agreeing to Russian appeasement, Russia just needs an agreement that upholds their initial goals (no NATO in Ukraine).

Peace is the prize for Ukraine. For Russia, it's an agreement to not let Ukraine join NATO.


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Ukraine.doesnt.need NATO. If Ukraine gets peace the west will rebuild it as Switzerland of the east. Russia has created a permanent enemy for the next 100 years.

Ukraine will work on a nuclear program, guarantee it.
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Thanks!  Those are some new ones.  I'm not sure what that bot covers, and it's probably quite a few of these, but here's my current list:

@EndGameWW3
@TheStudyofWar
@DefenseIntel
@L_Team10
@Michael1Sheldon
@CIA
@IntelCrab
@RALee85
@The_Lookout_N
@vcdgf555
@air_intel
@Archer83Able
@AuroraIntel
@projectowlosint
@Global_Mil_Info
@Cyber_O51NT
@ELINTNews
@ImageSatIntl
@terror_alarm
@CovertShores
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:52:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vinnland:

He posted the maximum damage scenaro for the US on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNsKR_OVsAMkRHY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Even the WalMart headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas gets one on this map.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:53:20 AM EDT
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These are some of the pages I've been following on a platform that allows you to view Twatter without an account:

https://nitter.net/IntelCrab

https://nitter.net/michaeldweiss

https://nitter.net/RALee85

https://nitter.net/EuromaidanPress

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 10:53:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Thank you. I wish more people would challenge idiotic posters from spewing that kind of poisonous garbage.
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Its hard to do without dragging the thread into a bigger cluster fuck.
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Originally Posted By eesmith:
Missile strikes just outside of town, I'm ok but they hit my Expat friend's village. Waiting to hear back from him.
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Be safe and prayers for your friends safety also.

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Originally Posted By Vinnland:

He posted the maximum damage scenaro for the US on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNsKR_OVsAMkRHY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Originally Posted By Vinnland:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


There's a guy working on a simulator for this, this is assuming all missiles work, no failures, and no intercepted missiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55x11a0aKtY

He posted the maximum damage scenaro for the US on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNsKR_OVsAMkRHY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

WTF did we do?  Apart from the Greenbrier, and the chemical plants and refineries in Charleston and along the Ohio River, I'm not sure what some of those hits would even be for.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 11:05:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:


Maybe they can trade for some migs.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:


Maybe they can trade for some migs.

I wonder and hope "we" are buying some of that stuff to bring back and disect for Intel.
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Keeping Ukraine out of nato is a red herring since they weren’t getting brought in.  Also, that agreement would be as useful as the one where Russia promised not to invade inf they gave up their nukes.
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Out of NATO should not be an issue.

The Baltics can form their own alliance and not be in NATO.

Ukraine can UGTOW like the Swiss. They won’t get fucked with again.
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