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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:05:18 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
As effective as their plans for Ukraine? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:07:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: Krater]
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 What happens to hoplophobia in 500 kilometers. I'm driving from Lvov home to Kiev. I have a legally registered rifle in the car, which I present at each checkpoint. 1) Lvov: "What? A gun? Why do you need a gun? Looks like it's not you on your ID...oh, it is you. " - takes pictures of the weapon from all sides, pictures of passport and license plate of the car. 2) Rivne: "A gun? Is it in a container? What's the caliber? Why do you have optics on it?" - takes picture of the passport 3) Zhitomir: "Wow! A rifle? Is it full auto?" - no pictures taken 4) Bila Cerkva: "O, you have a gun? I hope you are taking it with you? What's the caliber? NATO? That sucks. But they are going to start shipping from USA soon" 5) Near Kiev: "Gun? In the suitcase? Why in the suitcase? Loaded? Not loaded?? How are you planning to shoot??" |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:08:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: PurpleOtter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:08:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryHas anyone tested them, and do they work? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:08:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: SmilingBandit]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDT3: As effective as their plans for Ukraine? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NDT3: Originally Posted By Chokey:
As effective as their plans for Ukraine? Their plan is the one successful one to date: "We have nukes." And take that plan as far as it lets them. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:09:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTF2: Ukrainian farmers are now unofficially the 5th largest military in Europe..... And canada has loudly announced that they have given up all their weapons to Ukraine and are now defenseless against attack from anyone. Got leaf springs? |
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NZL
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:12:00 PM EST
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Oh look. Commies being commies. 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:12:38 PM EST
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I’m not joking.
What defense stocks should I be buying? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:13:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
I hope they're as Fucking stupid as your plans against Ukraine |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:14:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Has anyone tested them, and do they work? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Has anyone tested them, and do they work? They shot it with 762x39. Its 22 pounds. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:16:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: And canada has loudly announced that they have given up all their weapons to Ukraine and are now defenseless against attack from anyone. Got leaf springs? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: Originally Posted By JTF2: Ukrainian farmers are now unofficially the 5th largest military in Europe..... And canada has loudly announced that they have given up all their weapons to Ukraine and are now defenseless against attack from anyone. Got leaf springs? Yeah but they have tractors |
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:16:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
Oh look. Commies being commies. 
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:17:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankyRay: Wish I had the answer.  At this point, best we can hope for is they minimize the scope of it by continuing to kill lots of Russians... and their little Chechens, too.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By cpermd: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: More info on the forced deportations trickling in.
This can't be allowed to happen. How do they stop it? Wish I had the answer. At this point, best we can hope for is they minimize the scope of it by continuing to kill lots of Russians... and their little Chechens, too. Stopping it is easy(answer wise). It’s just are they willing to deal with nukes in the air. Anyone at this point who still believes Putin won’t use nukes if he feels he has no options left is a fool. That’s why a few people are still trying to look for that golden out, allowing him to save face. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:17:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: CDR/LTC/O-5, I think. The picture shows him with the shoulder boards of a Captain, First Rank, which is a senior O6 - just below flag rank. He might or might not have been bumped to a 1-star on becoming Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, which would make that an oldish photo. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:20:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: And canada has loudly announced that they have given up all their weapons to Ukraine and are now defenseless against attack from anyone. Got leaf springs? Don't you believe them! They've got hockey sticks and sharp skates and axes and stuff - and they don't mind scrapping, even if they apologize while they're hitting you. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:20:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cpermd: How do they stop it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cpermd: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: More info on the forced deportations trickling in.
This can't be allowed to happen. How do they stop it? Lots of information operations and propaganda to illuminate this. Make sure the world knows and make sure their soldiers know. There isn't going to be an insurgency or anything. Surrender and its a one way trip to Uzbekistan. But to be fair, I suspect they already understand it. That's why no military age males were allowed to leave the country. Beg for weapons and munitions from anybody Mobilize and take the ground back. Pretty much what they're already doing. The enforcer of your national security policy for the last 300 yards is the infantry. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:23:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Has anyone tested them, and do they work? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Has anyone tested them, and do they work? Didn't watch the video, huh? 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:24:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: What US equivalent rank was this guy? Full bird private E-4 |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:24:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: The picture shows him with the shoulder boards of a Captain, First Rank, which is a senior O6 - just below flag rank. He might or might not have been bumped to a 1-star on becoming Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, which would make that an oldish photo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: CDR/LTC/O-5, I think. The picture shows him with the shoulder boards of a Captain, First Rank, which is a senior O6 - just below flag rank. He might or might not have been bumped to a 1-star on becoming Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, which would make that an oldish photo. Ah, okay. Thanks. I'm by no means an expert at Russian military shit, I've just looked up a few ranks over the last couple weeks and thought I remembered that one. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:25:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOPXU2QXMA4gxYw?format=jpg&name=medium When Ukraine uses the same cross, Russia calls them nazi. The nazi phrase is getting overused here |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:27:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: aeroworksxp]
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New map from French MOD - March 19
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:28:01 PM EST
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If Russia scrapes the bottom of the barrel any harder they'll break through the bottom... Going to be very few Russians left to vote for separatism the break away republics after this. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:28:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp: New map from French MOD - March 19 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/FOOVIaiXEAUBCqh_jpg-2319394.JPG |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:29:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: At 22 pounds per side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: Originally Posted By mercersfinest4: Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I love seeing things like this. Making body armor out of truck leaf springs! That's awesome. I wound what type of hardened steel leaf springs are? I bet it's fine against 7.62 x 39. At 22 pounds per side. The video showed them loading up the front only, then using tabs on the sides to keep it from pulling down. I don’t know which would be worse, wearing steel plates on the front only, or carrying 44 pounds of armor. I guess the Ukrainians are like the Uruk Hai in LOTRs. They only wear armor in front because you will never see their backs. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:29:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: First shooting i've seen of the tiktok battalion. It looked like no one was shooting back. Also they were standing around behind the armored trucks and we know Ukies will shoot the legs under an armored vehicle. More TikTok bullshit for the fans back home. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:31:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigReb: If you blow the rail lines they will just bring it in by truck. A long line of fuel tankers on a rail line is a much easier target to destroy. They have already attacked some of the supply trains with drones. Having them on the rail lines makes them a static target that is easy to attack. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:32:24 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:32:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I don't disagree. Though our logistic god may need to weigh in. You can move far more stuff with more organization faster with rail than by truck. This is why you want to use rail. Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:33:10 PM EST
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Forgive me if this has been already addressed, but is there any actual evidence of these mass shipping of civilians off to concentration camps or gulags? It's a pretty giant claim and I'd reeeeeeally like some hard evidence before I repeat it anywhere.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:33:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: I ordered my legacy bomb shelter yesterday. Should be here by next week. https://i.redd.it/fho8636eh8l81.jpg  |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:34:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOP00VZXMAMDFTj?format=jpg&name=small ha that's a good one |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:35:59 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:36:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: If they're moving them to Russia, I don't think they're going to turn them loose when they get there. They make it sound that way, but in reality, they'd likely be going to camps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By PurpleOtter: Putin has stated many times that he believes that Russia and Ukraine are one country. He is trying to destroy the idea that Ukraine is it's own identity/people. Move Ukrainians to other places, integrate them and erase their heritage. This is the cleaning Putin spoke of. Fucking madman. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:38:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: PurpleOtter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Forgive me if this has been already addressed, but is there any actual evidence of these mass shipping of civilians off to concentration camps or gulags? It's a pretty giant claim and I'd reeeeeeally like some hard evidence before I repeat it anywhere. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:39:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp: New map from French MOD - March 19 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/FOOVIaiXEAUBCqh_jpg-2319394.JPG Auto Translated: Click To View Spoiler
Lol that map is bs. Ukes are able to maneuver in the northeast pretty freely. Down South Russia has a thin strip to Donbass with Mariupol not taken. Southwest they arent able to really push out much at all. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:39:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Russian logistics is based around rail movements. Switching to trucks complicates things immensely even if their system worked right. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:39:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: They shot it with 762x39. Its 22 pounds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RigorMortie: Originally Posted By Stretchman: Has anyone tested them, and do they work? They shot it with 762x39. Its 22 pounds. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:40:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: I think this was linked to before, but here it is again--Feeding the bear, a look at Russian logistics. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:40:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: I can finally afford body armor |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:40:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOPlkjXXIAkig01?format=png&name=small Granny is savage AF  
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:42:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Lol that map is bs. Ukes are able to maneuver in the northeast pretty freely. Down South Russia has a thin strip to Donbass with Mariupol not taken. Southwest they arent able to really push out much at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Lol that map is bs. Ukes are able to maneuver in the northeast pretty freely. Down South Russia has a thin strip to Donbass with Mariupol not taken. Southwest they arent able to really push out much at all. The enemy failed to advance significantly into the territory of Ukraine and was stopped in almost all directions."No significant changes in the operational situation have happened so far. The enemy was stopped in almost all directions of its advance. In some areas, the enemy was repulsed. In particular, the enemy was pushed about 70km back from the capital over the past few days," Ukraine's Defense Ministry Spokesperson Oleksandr Motuzianyk said at a briefing when asked whether the frontline has advanced deep into Ukraine in recent days. As Ukrinform reported, the total combat losses of the enemy from February 24 to March 19 are about as follows: about 14,400 people, 466 tanks, 1,470 armored combat vehicles, 213 artillery systems, 72 MLRS, 44 air defense units, 95 aircraft, 115 helicopters, 914 vehicles, 3 ships/boats, 60 fuel tanks, 17 UAVs of operational and tactical level, 11 special equipment units. Data are being clarified. The calculation is complicated by the high intensity of hostilities. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:43:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Lol that map is bs. Ukes are able to maneuver in the northeast pretty freely. Down South Russia has a thin strip to Donbass with Mariupol not taken. Southwest they arent able to really push out much at all. You should email the French Ministry of Defense to correct them. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:45:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: So did he have a heart attack? Slip in the shower and fall on some bullets? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOPXU2QXMA4gxYw?format=jpg&name=medium I’ve been told he spilled some tea and slipped and hit his head. 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:45:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Forgive me if this has been already addressed, but is there any actual evidence of these mass shipping of civilians off to concentration camps or gulags? It's a pretty giant claim and I'd reeeeeeally like some hard evidence before I repeat it anywhere. Then what's your point of fucking repeating it then? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:45:45 PM EST
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China has tried to move the war in Ukraine off the agenda of a major international summit as its public ambivalence over the Russian invasion threatens to damage its public image. Chinese leaders and diplomats have been making concerted efforts over the past week, arguing that Ukraine should not be discussed at this year's Group of 20 summit in Bali despite the gravity of the situation. They argue that the G20 is a platform to address major economic problems plaguing the post-pandemic world and it should stick to its core mission and not be hijacked by the West's agenda. The agenda is still being finalised and observers say it is too early to determine if Beijing's efforts will succeed, even though the Indonesian hosts have indicated they hold similar views. The observers say such attempts to avoid the issue, which have spiralled into diplomatic embarrassment for Beijing, are largely driven by China's desire to avoid possible disruptions at home and abroad ahead of a sweeping leadership reshuffle later this year. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:46:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Don't you believe them! They've got hockey sticks and sharp skates and axes and stuff - and they don't mind scrapping, even if they apologize while they're hitting you. Just don't come up the laneway. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:49:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp: You should email the French Ministry of Defense to correct them. You posted it and it looks like shit. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:50:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I don't disagree. Though our logistic god may need to weigh in. You can move far more stuff with more organization faster with rail than by truck. This is why you want to use rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By BigReb: If you blow the rail lines they will just bring it in by truck. A long line of fuel tankers on a rail line is a much easier target to destroy. They have already attacked some of the supply trains with drones. Having them on the rail lines makes them a static target that is easy to attack. Fuck no!! Destroy any and all rail between Russia / Belarus & Ukraine. 60% of Russian logistics throughput is planned around rail transport. I want that shit on trucks as it severely cuts their logistics. They don't have enough trucks to supply their forces afield. Russian truck convoys are often their own blocking force due to shit maintenance, lack of fuel, Ukrainian farmers and every Ukrainian hillbilly with an antitank rocket. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:50:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Thanks I will read it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By michigan66: I think this was linked to before, but here it is again--Feeding the bear, a look at Russian logistics. Supplying exterior lines when you suck at logistics and can’t secure your log lines is no way to fight a war of annihilation, and sucks even worse when you are forced to fight a war of attrition. As a result, Ukrainian civilians will be increasingly pulled into the line of fire as human shields and grist for the mill by the Russians. Bottom line, Russia can’t hang for another month without a major strategic shift in their campaign on the resourcing, execution, and progress fronts. They’ll look to close on their terms sooner rather than later, if we are lucky. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:50:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Didn't watch the video, huh? I had to go back and watch it again. I saw it stop the one round. I wonder if they should test it with m193, or whatever the Rus equivalent is. I guess something is better than nothing. |
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