They may be Americans in name but the radical left is every bit as much hostile, dangerous, and a threat then any Russian.

And I think there are a whole bunch of people who totally don't understand what it means if a NATO country attacks russian assets. They want the injustice against Ukraine to stop, and they totally don't understand or don't care what the results are of a shooting war with russia would mean. I talk to one very frequently. She figures ww3 is going to happen anyway so we should just attack russia now specifically in order to stop the attacks on Ukraine.

Would be nice to know more about that for sure.

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Dammit, Theodoric, stop posting stuff that's rational and reasonable.

Tucker Carlson is (I believe appropriately) a strong-borders America-first crypto-isolationist who knows that men can't have babies (he's right) and that inaction at the southern border is part of a very deliberate strategy to weaken and destroy America (he's right) by the very people who are trying to destroy every aspect of the American Bill of rights (he's right) and who suspects that the very same people who are trying to drag the United States into the Ukranian geographical misfortune/tragedy "for the children" are also probably doing so because Ukraine is a rich source of retirement money for them (and I suspect he's right about that, too).

As for "propaganda"?  Anybody who imagines that they care so passionately and deeply about Ukraine (really?  Why? Two months ago you couldn't have pointed to Ukraine on a map)--your head is so full of propaganda
that you can't even think straight.  And that's all I'm going to say about that.

Now you can call me a dim-witted commie stooge.

Hell you could probably guarantee its destruction by Russian forces if you marked it "Hey, your POWs are here". Putin doesn't want 'em back. Doesn't even want to acknowledge they exist.

Enjoy

I really think the Ukraine nazi stuff is very overblown it sounds kind of ridiculous.

Shit. It sounds like permission. Maybe because belarus looks like it's preparing to attack Ukraine? This is all not good.

A week before the Poles did any such thing, the US announced that the transfer was given a green light. If anything the Poles simply called our bluff.

My thoughts don't fail me but my words probably wouldn't end well here

I would love to see Ukraine form a new Russian Liberation Army

It is. Azov existed and had Neo-Nazis in it, there is no doubt.  Ukraine did probably the best thing they could by actually making it a legitimate fighting organization rather than an uncontrolled militia. The Nazis largely went away once they had to start playing by a set of rules.

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Is the azov battalion an actual battalion in the Ukraine military? If not,  how did they get javelins and training on javelin?

As far as I know,  we don't give Javelins to nazis in the US, nor do we have a battalion of them in our military.

Comparisons to the 5, nazis in the US, 4 of which are feds, don't make any sense?

Thank!! goodnes I agree!

If I'm not mistaken the russian government and military has been very friendly with the church for a while. And the church has been friendly with them. I saw a video during the invasion of crimea where it was noted the special forces guys seemed to have a pro-military/church belief system or something.

I generally agree with you but will add some context/opinion.
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First, as I’m sure you are probably aware, Russian IOs are directed against both sides of the political spectrum here.
Second, IMO what makes such IOs particularly effective is that they leverage the internal divisions in the US which are carefully created and cultivated by the two parties themselves, in order to jointly remain in power.  The goal of the two-party system in the US is to gradually, but continually, move the US toward authoritarian government, and the “platforms” of each party are carefully chosen hot-button issues designed to get people on “their team” and keep them there.  They limit options and limit what can even be debated in the public sphere.  They foment political hatred and dehumanization of the other “team”.  The American electorate is presented with a “choice” which is frequently just the lesser of two evils, but then builds up the candidate into “our guy” who can do no wrong.   I have relatives who voted for Trump with reluctance because they knew what he was, but believed Hillary was worse.  (That wasn’t necessarily wrong.). Then the party propaganda got them to forget their reservations.  The analogy of rival football teams is a good one - whether Michigan/Ohio state (for US football) or Boca Juniors vs River Plate (soccer).  Everything “my team” does is right, everything “your team” does is wrong.  The path we have been on doesn’t bode well for the future, with each side looking to direct political violence against the other side while ignoring their own double standards.  However, the Ukraine situation may change that for the better and get people to apply cognitive dissonance.  I took that step around 2008, well into the Iraq/Afghanistan invasion.  I was a useful conservative idiot (‘MURICA FUCK YEAH!) before starting to wake up, at which point I flirted with Russian IOs like Zerohedge before figuring out what was going on there.  Looking back 15 years I’m ashamed of my own attitudes.  I thank God that I’ve left the two-party paradigm and learned to apply some degree of critical thinking, but many, many people on both sides are still enthralled.

He can be right about many issues, but still insanely wrong on this one and be a complete turbo retard that won't back down from his failure. And the same goes for the people that support his position, or defend his position because its Tucker Carlson.

The right wing is not immune to propaganda. Certainly the left basks in it more. But we are not immune to coercion and propaganda that tries to fit beneficial views of bad actors worldwide. The failure to personally investigate, learn, process, and use that to influence your own decisions is a huge failure of many Americans. Instead of listening to Tucker Carlson, or Rachel Maddow, or anyone.... Actually reading up on the issue, researching unbiasedly, and helping that form an opinion, is far more beneficial to learn the nuance of an issue, rather than filtered garbage from talking heads that seek only to allure people and get them to subscribe to their view because its financially profitable to them.

You're not worried about the communists in our military? Are we giving them Javelins?! You seem pretty spooked. Should we ask Russia to help us peacefully decommify this country so we don't eventually have to resort to just killing them?

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Why, because they banned a whole bunch of people from the thread for attempting to derail it with Russian propaganda talking points? As a general matter, there are certainly problems with some site staff. Their handling of this thread has not been out of line.

I wonder, how many people have been banned from the thread?

Here is what you don't seem to get. Just because the left doesnt want to see Ukrainians get slaughtered by Russians doesn't mean the left wants war with Russia. It also does not mean that by supporting Ukraine means you support a democrat agenda. That is a simpleton way to look at things and people who engage in that type of reasoning are very easily manipulated.

I think the human is the weakest link in many of the systems, including power armor. Drones, unmanned or remotely manned systems would make smaller form factors, more mobile, and adaptable.

Azov is military unit of the Ukrainian military as far as I know. One of their best these days.

Linda Thomas Greenfield: “Other Nato countries may decide that they want to put troops inside of Ukraine, that will be a decision that they have made. We don’t want to escalate this into a war with the United States but we will support our Nato allies.”

Samuel Ramani  (@SamRamani2) March 20, 2022

Depends on what your definition of is, is