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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:07:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Чувак, it was was obviously sarcasm lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Are you happy about this? Чувак, it was was obviously sarcasm lol. чоловік, (fixed) 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:08:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiloBloom: I usually put a "  " if I think a wise ass or sarcastic remark could be misinterpreted.Hey Jada, you look like a Marine - by Marine, I mean you're a whore See, it works ! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Drakich: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
More proof that Russia is winning. Finally they can get their elite troops into the game. Like they planned all along. Are you happy about this? Check your sarcasm meter ?? It was off...  We have a rule where I work (rarely followed, but funny when it is)...any sarcastic messages are sent in orange text. Maybe ArfCom could try out something similar to help people out. I usually put a " " if I think a wise ass or sarcastic remark could be misinterpreted.Hey Jada, you look like a Marine - by Marine, I mean you're a whore See, it works !  Yeah, usually works for me too. Some people on this board though...man. We have both ends of the Bell curve here.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: A Ukrainian fighter in Mariupol fires an AT weapon directly into the turret of a Russian tank  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCyUrEds3SgInside of minimum arming range for an NLAW? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: They're still fighting it out for part of the city. Did you see the video of Azov being marched in the streets? I bet they'll be in a ditch soon.
That video from 2014. Look how people are dressed and all the vegetation. Its not subtropics, Ukraine has continental climate |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: When I worked in high energy the nation was spending $2 billion per year. The programs were special access with very little or no oversight able to connect projects that could benefit from each other. Safer, but wasteful. The Airborne Laser Test Bed was still flying at that time, that was the only laser program evident from our office, and the world knew about that one. I should drag out my drawings for a rack of shotguns on a pivot for blasting quad copters. This is actually something I’ve thought about. The average infantryman needs something to counter small drones. Traditional shotguns have a short effective range of about 70 yards, so it would be relatively easy to remain well outside of range. I think a gun-type weapon would still be ideal because it can provide adequate performance in a small package while still leaving room for the fuse and burster. Something like the 25MM XM-8 would work. Have a laser rangefinder aboard which feeds range data into a reflector gunsight. The user provides lead and corrects via tracer. You could probably get acceptable ballistic performance out to 1000 yards. When you aren’t using it as a mini-AAA gun it’s the squad grenade gun. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Inside of minimum arming range for an NLAW? They're hot in the tubes, friend. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:14:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Looked up Black Dart, it’s one of the only things publicly acknowledged DoD is doing in the CUAS area. I looked that up as well. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:14:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if this will prompt a reduction in arming distance for M72/AT4/Carl/NLAW etc going forward to better allow use in dense urban combat? What's the sense in destroying the tank if the friendlies get killed by the boom? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:15:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drakich: No, no, it’s where Putin has been hiding his elite fighting units all along. See, his strategy was to have his initial cannon fodder absorb all of the N-LAWs and Javelins. He even tricked people by naming the units “Guards Tank Divisions”. Masterful strategy. 4d chess. I think the true 4d chess master move was getting the Germans to finally start gunning up and looking East again. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:15:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: They're hot in the tubes, friend. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By RickJames1999: Inside of minimum arming range for an NLAW? They're hot in the tubes, friend. Negative, there is a minimum arming range |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:18:36 PM EDT
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[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: They're hot in the tubes, friend. Nope... LMFAO... |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:20:39 PM EDT
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If the Russians really are dusting off a bunch of even older, less maintained crap to fight this thing with, Ukraine really is going to have a glut of scrap steel all over its wheat fields.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:24:30 PM EDT
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Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:26:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: This is actually something I’ve thought about. The average infantryman needs something to counter small drones. Traditional shotguns have a short effective range of about 70 yards, so it would be relatively easy to remain well outside of range. I think a gun-type weapon would still be ideal because it can provide adequate performance in a small package while still leaving room for the fuse and burster. Something like the 25MM XM-8 would work. Have a laser rangefinder aboard which feeds range data into a reflector gunsight. The user provides lead and corrects via tracer. You could probably get acceptable ballistic performance out to 1000 yards. When you aren’t using it as a mini-AAA gun it’s the squad grenade gun. Neva been dun befo'. Look at the current MSHORAD proposal. Same 30mm chain gun as the Apache, plus a multitude of other options. We've got top men working on this. Top. Men. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:27:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Yeah, but don't assume that Ukraine launched it. It could have been located at a base where the Rooskie got their hands on it. they did come out with a bulletin saying they had mines in the waters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stretchman: Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-rbAWYAISW0R?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-t50XMAgqWsf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-vZRXoAMrF2k?format=jpg&name=large That will probably what gets WWIII started. A loose mine and a NATO ship. Yep. Well into international waters. Romania found it so no Russia disinformation. Any ship that hits a mine will be assumed to be from Ukrania. Yeah, but don't assume that Ukraine launched it. It could have been located at a base where the Rooskie got their hands on it. they did come out with a bulletin saying they had mines in the waters. It's most likely Ukrainian. There was a story 50 pages or so ago about a storm that damaged the sea mine field protecting Odessa. A log of mines apparently were just missing afterwards. 
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:27:40 PM EDT
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 Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Ukraine and the West: 'Don't push us into the corner' If you want to hear exactly why no country can ever trust or sign any agreement with Russia, listen to this interview from today with Putin's spokesman (and chief liar) /Kremlin boss Dmitry Peskov on Ukraine and the West: "Don't push us into the corner." |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
Oh, goodie, what a relief for the Netflix script writers. Otherwise, you know, it could have been problematic to write a sympathetic Russian character for that story. You know, in the interest of fairness. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:29:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: I think it was sarcastic. Obviously draftees and conscripts are not the A team. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Drakich: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
More proof that Russia is winning. Finally they can get their elite troops into the game. Like they planned all along. Are you happy about this? I think it was sarcastic. Obviously draftees and conscripts are not the A team. Pure sarcasm is the way I took it also, sometimes I apply it to thick myself.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
I guess they couldn’t find any earth or green colored paint so they just smeared the trucks with mud? I guess it works until it rains… |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:33:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-201d3047e8257e59de3d8b182c3605e3.webp i seez armor i destroys armor |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Nope... LMFAO... Yeah. should have waited for the tank to get further down the street or yeeted a couple RKG instead. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Its a NLAW with 20m arming distance, so almost certainly failed to arm in time due to the minimal effect it had; the tank was within rock throwing distance from that window. I wonder if this will prompt a reduction in arming distance for M72/AT4/Carl/NLAW etc going forward to better allow use in dense urban combat? Nope. Min arming distances on AT4s and LAAWs are 30 feet. Any closer and you blow yourself up. Its not the sort of thing where you can just field mod the arming fuse. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
Dumb asses forgot their life preservers. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefly1032: Every day Ukraine is losing more artillery pieces to drone/plane attacks or counter-battery. The UA cannot withstand the equipment losses at this rate I would assume. I agree that hopefully they continue to more drone equipment. Attrition still favors the Russians. Ukraine needs to be able to counterattack, drive back, and cut off resupply. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:44:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PalmettoBug]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiloBloom: Dumb asses forgot their life preservers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
Dumb asses forgot their life preservers. i understood that reference |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I think more than a few of us called it. Putin will put the fire out with human bodies. As many as it takes to "win." What a god-forsaken failure of a culture. It really deserves to die. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I think more than a few of us called it. Putin will put the fire out with human bodies. As many as it takes to "win." What a god-forsaken failure of a culture. It really deserves to die. Reminder Ukraine has approx 8 million military age males. On the defense. I imagine requests for beat up AKs, and any sort of belt feds, are progressing nicely under the radar. This could turn into some sloppy mass armies on each other in an urban setting. I'm not seeing a WWII reenactment where the Russians have overwhelming numbers. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:45:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: @Freiheit8472 How about a little ghost rider action https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_locp4bAo201qm5vjpo1_r4_400.gifv For the convoys and troops Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By theskuh: Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Sounds like we need to hand over some F-22s and F-35s with "specially trained pilots" to Ukraine. Never let your enemy dictate the terms of your actions. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AbleLikableBaiji-max-1mb.gif For video watching purposes i really want to see a flight of apaches steamroll through. https://militarymachine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Boeing-AH-64-Apache-Military-Machine.gif If there is a God, please let the defenders of Mariupol witness that flight, along with some A10’s. Their joy would be unimaginable and the US would be fighting the good fight again. ETA: could you imagine how motivated our guys would be? Fighting for freedom again like in wwii for a grateful populace and nation @Freiheit8472 How about a little ghost rider action https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_locp4bAo201qm5vjpo1_r4_400.gifv For the convoys and troops  found the proper emoji!*please-pleease* Everyone one of those Ukrainians now in Mariupol would punch anyone that bad mouthed the US for the rest of their lives if we did that. Ah, ok, back to reality Freiheit8472. Hey we can dream can’t we @kbi!? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:46:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Looked up Black Dart, it's one of the only things publicly acknowledged DoD is doing in the CUAS area. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By AeroE: When I worked in high energy the nation was spending $2 billion per year. The programs were special access with very little or no oversight able to connect projects that could benefit from each other. Safer, but wasteful. The Airborne Laser Test Bed was still flying at that time, that was the only laser program evident from our office, and the world knew about that one. Looked up Black Dart, it's one of the only things publicly acknowledged DoD is doing in the CUAS area. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: Thanks, I perused headlines, I'll look closer later. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: Originally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By AeroE: When I worked in high energy the nation was spending $2 billion per year. The programs were special access with very little or no oversight able to connect projects that could benefit from each other. Safer, but wasteful. The Airborne Laser Test Bed was still flying at that time, that was the only laser program evident from our office, and the world knew about that one. Looked up Black Dart, it's one of the only things publicly acknowledged DoD is doing in the CUAS area. That’s some impressive tech if it works. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:58:38 PM EDT
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That detonated and you can see the burning metal. NLaw in top attack doesn’t have much oomph it’s just a shaped charge directed down.
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Why are they wearing T shirts in that video? At :14 I see two guys in T-shirts. I see a lot of videos with snow on the ground elsewhere in Ukraine. Weather in Mariupol today was in the 40s. Looks fake. Agreed. Also, that's a Lenin statue at 0:17, an absolute impossibility in modern Ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 9:59:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: And 6K nuclear weapons. Even if you figure 90% don't work, still leaves enough to make trouble. So let him do what he wants because he has nukes? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: We were training them to kill Russians / serve as a meat grinder in case of invasion. Thats now happening brilliantly; but that also means that the strategic interest has been achieved. But training is a minimal sign of interest; the US trains forces all around the world (random shitholes in africa so they can fight arfro-durkas, for example.) That doesnt mean they are all that important to us. They arent much of a trading partner for the US because they are poor, and so could buy relatively few US products. And their main export - wheat - is something the US produces in vast quantities. Okey dokey. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Oh, goodie, what a relief for the Netflix script writers. Otherwise, you know, it could have been problematic to write a sympathetic Russian character for that story. You know, in the interest of fairness. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
Oh, goodie, what a relief for the Netflix script writers. Otherwise, you know, it could have been problematic to write a sympathetic Russian character for that story. You know, in the interest of fairness. Lol yeah but one of Metatron’s descendants will have to explain it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xHmgTRkn6MIf you want to hear exactly why no country can ever trust or sign any agreement with Russia, listen to this interview from today with Putin's spokesman (and chief liar) /Kremlin boss Dmitry Peskov on Ukraine and the West: "Don't push us into the corner." Well that’s notable he said they’re in the mindset of “total war”. They’re shifty and lie all the time, but (I think) it adds weight to the idea we will have to fight them anyway. Not certain-but adds weight. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:10:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: I think you left off Plan E: We're going to use tactical nukes to create a no mans land. The general consensus is Russia/Putin wants to create a buffer zone for Russia. They can't occupy and hold it, and it's increasingly obvious they're not going to get a puppet government in UKR. So it looks like the odds of Russia drawing a new border that includes no go zone by tossing a few low yield nukes are going up. Where that line gets drawn is the question. Does he take out Kyiv in the process? They obviously want the coastal areas and can probably hold the food and mineral rich areas of the east. They've already rubbled the cities and are starting to deport locals which would make that task easier. I could be wrong and I hope so, but Putin does not look like he's going to walk away from this. The general consensus where? Anyone who understands putin and russia understands he wants to eliminate Ukraine, and make it russia. It has fuck all to do with nato. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:14:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Attrition still favors the Russians. Ukraine needs to be able to counterattack, drive back, and cut off resupply. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Firefly1032: Every day Ukraine is losing more artillery pieces to drone/plane attacks or counter-battery. The UA cannot withstand the equipment losses at this rate I would assume. I agree that hopefully they continue to more drone equipment. Attrition still favors the Russians. Ukraine needs to be able to counterattack, drive back, and cut off resupply. Attrition NEVER favors the invaders. Defenders don’t necessarily have to push back an invader as long as they hold. Especially if the invader is attempting total takeover. Ukraine will actually be on offensive sooner than later in many parts of currently captured territory that is less than 10% of what they had 2 mo the ago. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:16:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: IMO this war will last at least 2 years. At least, probably longer. The biggest danger to Ukraine is giving up territory at the negotiating table. Where are they going to get the people and equipment? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: WAIT A MINUTE, so what is the status of AZOV? That isn't them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By NY12ga:
WAIT A MINUTE, so what is the status of AZOV? That isn't them? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:19:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpaceGuy: Black Central African Mercenaries are now involved, getting killed by JF in Donbas:
Did we do Russian technicals in Mariupol?
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: Anyone seen this yet?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneedsville: Originally Posted By stone-age: WAIT A MINUTE, so what is the status of AZOV? That isn't them? Anyone seen this yet?
So is the azov battalion finished? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: So is the azov battalion finished? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By sneedsville: Originally Posted By stone-age: WAIT A MINUTE, so what is the status of AZOV? That isn't them? Anyone seen this yet?
So is the azov battalion finished? No. That was supposedly an old video from 2014. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: So is the azov battalion finished? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:29:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Hezbola had dive teams to recover munitions and explosions from the bottom of the sea that they refurbished into their last round of rocket attacks. Stuff from WWII on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-rbAWYAISW0R?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-t50XMAgqWsf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO8-vZRXoAMrF2k?format=jpg&name=large That will probably what gets WWIII started. A loose mine and a NATO ship. Refurbishing an 80 year old mine for actual use is crazy. Lol didn't know they still used ww2 era mines. Hezbola had dive teams to recover munitions and explosions from the bottom of the sea that they refurbished into their last round of rocket attacks. Stuff from WWII on. Yea I saw the video on hezzys diving for old munitions from a sunken ww2 vessel. |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:34:59 PM EDT
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Pretty sure I just saw a video where Russians were literally stacking azov like cordwood.
Description said they’d been waiting a long time to clean up Mariupol. :/ |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2022 10:37:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
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