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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:03:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Agreed. But I suspect that test was ONLY of the ammo and it's effectiveness on small drones. In the subsequent video's they are hitting fast moving drones. Probably a test of the radar, tracking, etc. It does look a little big and lumbering for the typical "hobby drone" defense. Hopefully it will lead to something more nimble. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Zhukov: It is probably a hell of a system, but slowing the drones to sit still and bunching them up so you can show off your system didn't really help them in this demo. Targeting drones should be relatively easy though - if you can track jets, shooting down a drone that goes 100mph or less is going to be a piece of cake. Agreed. But I suspect that test was ONLY of the ammo and it's effectiveness on small drones. In the subsequent video's they are hitting fast moving drones. Probably a test of the radar, tracking, etc. It does look a little big and lumbering for the typical "hobby drone" defense. Hopefully it will lead to something more nimble. Rheinmetall is working on "hobby drone" defense too.  Rheinmetall – Systems for drone defence |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:03:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Maybe Poland should have a referendum and announce that Kaliningrad has voted to join Poland. I bet the sputtering on that RU TV show would be epic.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By klinc: They should hold a referendum to leave russia. I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm) Maybe Poland should have a referendum and announce that Kaliningrad has voted to join Poland. I bet the sputtering on that RU TV show would be epic. Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany  )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: How does that work at night? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Bluegrasshopper: Multiple Cessna CAP flying around the clock is still way cheaper than a single ManPad. FLIR |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:06:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The risk of using a UK provided system against an HVT in Russia is too much to be desirable. There’s probably an ex Soviet parts bin that could come up with something similar. The Soviets original SHORAD had laser guided missiles I believe. Yes, good point. Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Strip clubs... fine dining... strip clubs... fine dining... country music clubs... jazz clubs... Okay, Houston it is, sorry Texas. Savvy group of operators here; I had faith the right decision would win out in the end. ;) |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:18:08 PM EDT
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And makes your breath minty fresh. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: The real Igor Gherkin Pickle has a telegram account he posts to. Looks like he thinks the mobilization will fail.
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Hey asshole. The whole world knew this a week ago. Means fuck all to anyone who isn't under Putin's thumb. If they do declare war, that will likely be the end of Putin as the people of russia won't accept it. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
And makes your breath minty fresh. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:21:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
And makes your breath minty fresh. May as well throw in 72 virgins….. “Allah vodka-bar!” |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:22:38 PM EDT
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https://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/43915
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
And makes your breath minty fresh. And relieves you of all earthly concerns. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for that decrepit KGB relic to set the example! |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:26:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:32:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: May as well throw in 72 virgins .. "Allah vodka-bar!"   |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:32:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdacDAUXwAM-kSS?format=jpg&name=small That's some weapons grade wisdom right there! |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. Fantastic summary. Truly. Though nukes could have been mentioned as well. But, still. Very good summary. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/43915
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNK7y26XwAEVDvJ?format=jpg&name=large |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:41:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By klinc: They should hold a referendum to leave russia. I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm) Maybe Poland should have a referendum and announce that Kaliningrad has voted to join Poland. I bet the sputtering on that RU TV show would be epic. Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. I like you We can sit down and drink some Palinka |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:45:10 PM EDT
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Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:48:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:48:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdacDAUXwAM-kSS?format=jpg&name=small Very similar to what I was thinking I would leave if it was there. The people there seem to be fine with attacking another country. What they don't like is being forced to be involved with attacking another country. And they seem to be wanting to blame the incompetence of the military as to why they are forced to get involved. I was thinking something like "We are all going to die for the glory of our military and the conquering of land for our leaders." |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:50:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Can we talk them into hitting New Orleans instead? Would anybody even notice if they did? |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 7:59:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I like you We can sit down and drink some Palinka Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By klinc: They should hold a referendum to leave russia. I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm) Maybe Poland should have a referendum and announce that Kaliningrad has voted to join Poland. I bet the sputtering on that RU TV show would be epic. Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. I like you We can sit down and drink some Palinka Maybe some day; I was in Taszar during SFOR and I would love to check out Kaposvar, Pecs, and Lake Balaton again
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Yeah. Maybe with some kind of rapid response team at various places. Try everything. Go with what works. This isn't that different than the doodle bugs they sent after london. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Bluegrasshopper: Imagining some civilian with a Cessna 120 with twin PKT Mounted above the wing flying CAP against Iranian Drones over Odessa. Yeah. Maybe with some kind of rapid response team at various places. Try everything. Go with what works. This isn't that different than the doodle bugs they sent after london. Spitfires and Hurricanes flew intercept missions against the V1's. I'm sure there are deviously gifted Ukrainian red necks thinking about jury rigging something to help with this while their .mil folks figure out a proper solution. My respect for Ukrainians has skyrocketed over the last several years. If anyone can figure this out they can. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. Agreed. They need to read more Solzhenitsyn |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPeacher: That's some weapons grade wisdom right there! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPeacher: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdacDAUXwAM-kSS?format=jpg&name=small That's some weapons grade wisdom right there! Even better, it's "ground meat" not cannon fodder (though the meaning is the same obviously, I just think the literal translation is more appropriate here lol) |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:08:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bluegrasshopper: Imagining some civilian with a Cessna 120 with twin PKT Mounted above the wing flying CAP against Iranian Drones over Odessa. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:10:19 PM EDT
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Former French Foreign Legion soldiers on the front line in Ukraine https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/international/060322/former-french-foreign-legion-soldiers-front-line-ukraine?_locale=en&onglet=full The Russian invasion has caused a stir inside the French Foreign Legion which has around 700 Ukrainians in its ranks. There have been media rumours of desertions by soldiers who want to go and fight in Ukraine, and the commanding officer has gone public with an appeal for troops to honour their oath to the Legion. Mediapart has meanwhile identified several former legionnaires who are already on the front line and has spoken to one there who claims there are 'a hundred' current and former legionnaire already in Ukraine. Sébastien Bourdon reports. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. Yep, absolutely. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:14:29 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for September 25th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-25 |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:15:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Fantastic summary. Truly. Though nukes could have been mentioned as well. But, still. Very good summary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. Fantastic summary. Truly. Though nukes could have been mentioned as well. But, still. Very good summary. Since the early days of the Soviet Union, this is the script the Soviets/Russians have followed. It is established doctrine. Can you imagine the screams of rage from Putin and the Russians in general if they had their own rules imposed on them 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. Hell yeah, set up ambushes, something, anything besides allowing your self to get picked up by cops and hauled off to die. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
He is either home in England or on his way home there. He and a good few others were released. They are/were in Saudi Arabia. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: More like dust off some M16 MGMC(or at least the turret from them), retrofit them with some sort of optical camera AI motion tracking setup and place them all over the place as a point defense for drones. Or rig up some sort of comparable gun turret and put it on top of an M113. The Ukrainians have a lot of those things now. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Or rig up some sort of comparable gun turret and put it on top of an M113. The Ukrainians have a lot of those things now. Isrealis supposedly used them as anti-snipers during early 2000s. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:30:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: Yep, absolutely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. Yep, absolutely. The Russian society is not as advanced in thinking like that though... they actually think protesting makes a difference.. it's like they have not paid attention to the Arab spring uprisings, the only way they can make a difference is to violently change things. ..unfortunately |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Silence: that is called a M163 VADS... Isrealis supposedly used them as anti-snipers during early 2000s. Now I’m going down the Wiki rabbit hole looking at M113 variants. That minigun toting one looks like it would be great for those Iranian lawn mowers |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:34:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Maybe some day; I was in Taszar during SFOR and I would love to check out Kaposvar, Pecs, and Lake Balaton again Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Jozsi: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By klinc: They should hold a referendum to leave russia. I’m sure Russia would totally respect the outcome of the election. ( sarcasm) Maybe Poland should have a referendum and announce that Kaliningrad has voted to join Poland. I bet the sputtering on that RU TV show would be epic. Nah, if Poland wants to do it in the Russian-approved fashion, they have to: 1) 2) Declare the Polish State to be the legitimate historical successor to Prussia (sorry Germany )3) Rename the place back to "Konigsberg" 4) "Filtrate" the current population, sending any resident who can't (or refuses to) answer questions in either German, Polish or Lithuanian to centers, and anyone who shows any patriotism to Russia to camps along the western Polish border where they are "persuaded" to become good Poles. 5) Force the remaining people to vote to "Rejoin" Poland. (90% "Yes" vote = Rookie Numbers; should be higher!) 6) Find some patsy "foreign observers" to prattle on about how it was the best/fairest election they've ever seen 7) Formally annex Konigsberg 8) "Modernize the spelling" of Konigsberg by either "Polishizing" the name OR just translate Konigsberg directly into Polish. 9) Move a crap-ton of Polish-speakers into the redeemed territory (German-speakers will do in a pinch) 10) Threaten any country with war that opposes your actions. I like you We can sit down and drink some Palinka Maybe some day; I was in Taszar during SFOR and I would love to check out Kaposvar, Pecs, and Lake Balaton again Mi casa...I will show you someday. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:34:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. They don't want to do anything that might get them in real trouble. They just don't want to be sent to fight. Up until a few days ago they were totally fine with russia invading ukraine. They probably had a Z shirt. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: The US thinking is a 50kw HE laser on a Stryker. These are being delivered now. Stryker engine cools and recharges the laser, so no munitions train. https://www.defensenews.com/land/2022/01/13/army-readies-to-deliver-first-set-of-strykers-with-50-kilowatt-laser-weapons/ Raytheon cartoon porn (the actual units ARE being delivered, not vaporware): https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/52BC12C3-5CC0-4662-A3F3-BB1B058F2A00_png-2539244.JPG DEWs and a distributed sensor network, maybe including drones acting as mini-AWACS, are going to be big in the coming decades, I think. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: They have been effective. Hopefully the HQ hits weren't too devastating. I would pay good money to read the mil-forum thread. I wish it had been moved to Team instead of the Mil forum. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: MADIS and the SHORAD Stryker use a low velocity 30, that’s probably a better tool here, and in the future I expect the gun to get larger. ETA: the MADIS Mk. 2 has a 7.62 minigun which is probably better than an M3P. Actually if I found out that some of those M1A1 hills in the desert were to be repurposed to use a 76mm naval gun in a turret I wouldn’t be surprised. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Probably something more along the lines of a couple of M3Ps (a high-cyclic rate mod of the AN/M2 design) on a CROWs-type mount. The AVENGER uses the M3P for close-in defense, so the tech is already developed. MADIS and the SHORAD Stryker use a low velocity 30, that’s probably a better tool here, and in the future I expect the gun to get larger. ETA: the MADIS Mk. 2 has a 7.62 minigun which is probably better than an M3P. Actually if I found out that some of those M1A1 hills in the desert were to be repurposed to use a 76mm naval gun in a turret I wouldn’t be surprised. Give Italy a call, they may still have plans sitting around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomatic |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: They don't want to do anything that might get them in real trouble. They just don't want to be sent to fight. Up until a few days ago they were totally fine with russia invading ukraine. They probably had a Z shirt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Rather than wasting their time and efforts protesting, they need to be using their heads. If they go out and join a public protest, they are simply going to be arrested, taken out of the game and silenced. But if each one of these protestors instead decided they would lurk in the shadows and commit acts of sabotage, then they could become really useful. There are lots of things within Russia that if set afire, broken or otherwise damaged, could make a real impact against the war effort. Those that are choosing to demonstrate in public are only wasting their potential. Rather than carrying around signs and shouting chants, they need to be carrying Molotov cocktails, improvised explosives and power tools. They don't want to do anything that might get them in real trouble. They just don't want to be sent to fight. Up until a few days ago they were totally fine with russia invading ukraine. They probably had a Z shirt. That's almost exactly what I was going to say. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:45:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack841: Give Italy a call, they may still have plans sitting around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomatic It’s what I had in mind. Or a 57mm. Could double as a support gun. Ammo is about $14,000 a round for guided. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goodn: He is either home in England or on his way home there. He and a good few others were released. They are/were in Saudi Arabia. Appears he is back in the UK (not UA). |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: It’s what I had in mind. Or a 57mm. Could double as a support gun. Ammo is about $14,000 a round for guided. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Jack841: Give Italy a call, they may still have plans sitting around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomatic It’s what I had in mind. Or a 57mm. Could double as a support gun. Ammo is about $14,000 a round for guided. I remember seeing these in Janes back in the eighties or nineties, I guess, and thinking they were serious overkill/less useful than missiles. Things change, I guess. LOL. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 8:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
And makes your breath minty fresh. Perfect, the can rape and pillage and still get to go to heaven |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:03:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Former French Foreign Legion soldiers on the front line in Ukraine https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/international/060322/former-french-foreign-legion-soldiers-front-line-ukraine?_locale=en&onglet=full The Russian invasion has caused a stir inside the French Foreign Legion which has around 700 Ukrainians in its ranks. There have been media rumours of desertions by soldiers who want to go and fight in Ukraine, and the commanding officer has gone public with an appeal for troops to honour their oath to the Legion. Mediapart has meanwhile identified several former legionnaires who are already on the front line and has spoken to one there who claims there are 'a hundred' current and former legionnaire already in Ukraine. Sébastien Bourdon reports. Anyone know what happened to that one guy from before the start that was supposed to be ex FFL at like 23? |
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