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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:17:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Dammit. They need to find a choke point and clog it with burning vehicles. It's probably worth risking a TB2 on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd5oVx_X0AItRAR?format=jpg&name=small Dammit. They need to find a choke point and clog it with burning vehicles. It's probably worth risking a TB2 on. If they have drones watching it, they can make it a deathtrap. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:18:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I would have to assume that following Putin's annexation of these Ukrainian territories that there will be some sort of condemnation vote at the UN. It will be interesting to see if some of the countries who have abstained from past votes against Russia will now join the rest of the world. And yes, I am largely focusing on China and India here. If you can get those two to both vote to condemn this action publicly, then Russia is going to feel mighty isolated and alone. And based on recent statements from both countries, such a vote now seems possible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I would have to assume that following Putin's annexation of these Ukrainian territories that there will be some sort of condemnation vote at the UN. It will be interesting to see if some of the countries who have abstained from past votes against Russia will now join the rest of the world. And yes, I am largely focusing on China and India here. If you can get those two to both vote to condemn this action publicly, then Russia is going to feel mighty isolated and alone. And based on recent statements from both countries, such a vote now seems possible. Tea leaf reading, but yesterday UN SG Gutteres made a very harsh statement about it. https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1129047 Particularly: It flouts the Purposes and Principles of the United Nations. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:18:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:22:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd4tqJIWIAEozD4?format=jpg&name=small Question Are Russians color blind? It is like they pick the worst pairing of colors, and throw them together with other color that should never be matched together. And why is so much crap (like hospitals and cockpits) in Russia painted teal or turquoise? |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:22:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The Russian "winter war advantage" meme comes almost entirely from the massacre of Napoleon's Grande Armee and the narrow defeat of Hitler's invasion. Both occurred while Russians were fighting deep within their own territory and thus had logistics of practically zero length while enemy logistics not only stretched 1,000 miles but were also infamously neglectful (or actively murderous). When the Russians have fought in winter with the logistics advantage shoe on the other foot, such as the Russo-Japanese War in Manchuria that predated completion of the Trans-Siberian railway, or the Winter War in Finnish marshes and forests, they've been badly mauled and suffered severely from the climate. It's going to get awfully lonely on the Russian front once the snow starts to fall. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:22:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:23:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:24:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If they have drones watching it, they can make it a deathtrap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd5oVx_X0AItRAR?format=jpg&name=small Dammit. They need to find a choke point and clog it with burning vehicles. It's probably worth risking a TB2 on. If they have drones watching it, they can make it a deathtrap. I just checked and there's a bridge on the highway just before the crossroads. Looks around 100m long. Perfect.  |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:25:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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Russian colonialism history |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:26:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Blyast! |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:26:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:28:09 AM EDT
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Russia is all in now. This is Russia’s last war…I hate the Russian government…
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:28:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:33:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: damn it!!  .Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Easterner: Well the bus station in Dnipro has up to 100 buses destroyed or damaged. Also hit near the shopping center, Bridge City, downtown Dnipro blowing out windows and hitting a residential area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG-2583cd57ad1383a8c84c244cb12c04aa-V_2-2544709.JPG The humanitarian column from Zaporozhye oblast was also attacked in the morning. 23 killed, 28 wounded. They are really stepping up the attacks on civilians. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_2022-09-30-11-39-44-832_com_i-2544711.JPG damn it!! . Time for some payback in Lyman. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:37:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I would have to assume that following Putin's annexation of these Ukrainian territories that there will be some sort of condemnation vote at the UN. It will be interesting to see if some of the countries who have abstained from past votes against Russia will now join the rest of the world. And yes, I am largely focusing on China and India here. If you can get those two to both vote to condemn this action publicly, then Russia is going to feel mighty isolated and alone. And based on recent statements from both countries, such a vote now seems possible. How the fuck will india and china vote against it. China took Tibet... India stole Portueguese Goa..which was Portueguese for almost 475 years. They've done it and so have others... I'm hoping to be wrong but Putler could let out some canned sunshine in the UA and those two fucken countries wouldn't bat an eye. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:39:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:40:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: That was really insightful. Thank you for posting that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Zhukov: Another video dropped from 1420. "Do you know that 20-50K of our soldiers have died already?" It's very interesting - make sure to watch until the end.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YarNZ5YKNUThat was really insightful. Thank you for posting that. Damn sure was, everyone should view it |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:41:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I think I can make a pretty accurate guess as to what the topic will be.  Time for António Guterres to go in hard and deep, along with the rest of the UN member nations. Russia should be removed from the UNSC and they should also be branded as a state sponsor of terror by as many nations as possible. It is time to break it off in those twisted fucks. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:46:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The Russian "winter war advantage" meme comes almost entirely from the massacre of Napoleon's Grande Armee and the narrow defeat of Hitler's invasion. Both occurred while Russians were fighting deep within their own territory and thus had logistics of practically zero length while enemy logistics not only stretched 1,000 miles but were also infamously neglectful (or actively murderous). When the Russians have fought in winter with the logistics advantage shoe on the other foot, such as the Russo-Japanese War in Manchuria that predated completion of the Trans-Siberian railway, or the Winter War in Finnish marshes and forests, they've been badly mauled and suffered severely from the climate. This is why I don’t understand the hand wringing. A winter war IS going to suck, no two ways about it, but this is home turf! Germany, France, etc didn’t live in the regions they were fighting in and they were logistically strung out. This is not an apples to apples comparison |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:51:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Has he really publicly asked for negotiations? |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:52:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I think I can make a pretty accurate guess as to what the topic will be. Time for António Guterres to go in hard and deep, along with the rest of the UN member nations. Russia should be removed from the UNSC and they should also be branded as a state sponsor of terror by as many nations as possible. It is time to break it off in those twisted fucks. I hope you are correct but I am afraid it will be more empty threats, maybe this time in ALL CAPS. The UN is nothing but a run down, worn out, toothless old whore. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:54:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: realwar]
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Russia annexes regions
 Ukraine War: Russia officially annexes regions |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:55:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Has he really publicly asked for negotiations? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Has he really publicly asked for negotiations? Putin was making the speech live while that was posted, I only have translators to go by in general what Putler is saying. 3 guys I trust on Twitter were saying it's basically everything good is because of Russia and West bad. Declaration of war on NATO etc.. Yet wanting to talk after annexation. Hopefully Dimitri will have a complete English transcript of the speech for us to look at in more depth. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:55:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: trapsh00ter99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I already called dibs.  Edit: Damn I see I was already beat, but I have a meme so it overrides. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:56:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 9:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small I swear we've already seen those in use in Ukraine. They're insane and I love them. Expensive as hell but an unholy - and incredibly consistent - frag pattern. A true and repeatable "circle of death". It's like a miles remote gigantic shotgun. Technology like that is fascinating and terrifying. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:00:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: R0N]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small The tungsten sphere number often quoted is a misquote. Years ago during the first live fire by an operational unit the commander was quoted as saying that, but it’s not the right number. The AW was designed as DPICM replacement, it’s slightly more effective than unitary on targets with less accurate target location, but no where as lethal as a load of DPICM. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:01:10 AM EDT
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Russian aircraft bombing near Ukrainian forces.
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:02:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: The tungsten sphere number often quoted is a misquote. Years ago during the first live fire by an operational unit the commander was quoted as saying that, but it’s not the right number. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small The tungsten sphere number often quoted is a misquote. Years ago during the first live fire by an operational unit the commander was quoted as saying that, but it’s not the right number. Honestly R0N, it doesn't matter. They are made to have a very specific frag pattern and if that takes plus or minus thousands of the quoted number and differing sizes to do what it does. It meets the required specification. 
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:03:31 AM EDT
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Biden: US will never recognize 'shameless' Russian claims on Ukraine
 Biden: US will never recognize 'shameless' Russian claims on Ukraine |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:04:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 hr ago.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd5oVx_X0AItRAR?format=jpg&name=small Motherfcuer I thought the place was surrounded. You don’t want them to escape. Surrounded, cut off, stranded, starved, and then a widely publicized surrender. Or at least given my the highway of death treatment. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:05:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: I swear we've already seen those in use in Ukraine. They're insane and I love them. Expensive as hell but an unholy - and incredibly consistent - frag pattern. A true and repeatable "circle of death". It's like a miles remote gigantic shotgun. Technology like that is fascinating and terrifying. 
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:08:50 AM EDT
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Ukrainian forces watching someone get leveled.
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:09:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Motherfcuer I thought the place was surrounded. You don’t want them to escape. Surrounded, cut off, stranded, starved, and then a widely publicized surrender. Or at least given my the highway of death treatment. There is only one road out of town and Ukraine controls a big section of it by fire. The Russians will be annihilated if they attempt to escape with their equipment. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:09:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small I wonder if it would work against a bunch of soldiers fleeing an encirclement forced to stay on one road? |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:10:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:11:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small Nasty. Wait until the Russians see the aftermath of one of those on soft targets. 
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:12:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd41SiqX0AExhFK?format=jpg&name=small So are Putin's acts violating Russian law? Russia signed treaties respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, which predates this bogus "annexation." |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:13:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:13:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small Soft targets eh? I guess a bunch of pudgy, out of shape Russian alcoholics would qualify as "soft targets". Little cubes of tungsten traveling at nearly hypersonic velocity should make their stay in Ukraine quite unpleasant. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:13:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panthermark: Question Are Russians color blind? It is like they pick the worst pairing of colors, and throw them together with other color that should never be matched together. And why is so much crap (like hospitals and cockpits) in Russia painted teal or turquoise? |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:14:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: I swear we've already seen those in use in Ukraine. They're insane and I love them. Expensive as hell but an unholy - and incredibly consistent - frag pattern. A true and repeatable "circle of death". It's like a miles remote gigantic shotgun. Technology like that is fascinating and terrifying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: I swear we've already seen those in use in Ukraine. They're insane and I love them. Expensive as hell but an unholy - and incredibly consistent - frag pattern. A true and repeatable "circle of death". It's like a miles remote gigantic shotgun. Technology like that is fascinating and terrifying. Sound like a bomb from a movie I once saw  a bomb composed of plastique and a quarter-million steel flechettes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sunday_(1977_film) |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:18:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CharlieR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The Russian "winter war advantage" meme comes almost entirely from the massacre of Napoleon's Grande Armee and the narrow defeat of Hitler's invasion. Both occurred while Russians were fighting deep within their own territory and thus had logistics of practically zero length while enemy logistics not only stretched 1,000 miles but were also infamously neglectful (or actively murderous). When the Russians have fought in winter with the logistics advantage shoe on the other foot, such as the Russo-Japanese War in Manchuria that predated completion of the Trans-Siberian railway, or the Winter War in Finnish marshes and forests, they've been badly mauled and suffered severely from the climate. Agree. Lets all take a moment and remember the big elephant in the room. The Russians have drafted a lot of people suddenly and unwillingly and are feeding them in with zero training. Probably zero leadership. In a war of lots of unprecedented things this is really wild. But over time, someone may learn something Armies that have collapsed spectacularly at least had basic training, and generally some popular support before they pushed meat into the grinder. The troops that went over the top at the Somme, the Argentinians in the Falklands, the French in 1940, the armies whose asses got kicked by the Israelis... they HAD training. These Russians DONT. Regardless of what the weather is, the Ukrainians need to identify the green units being pushed in to the line and hit them; they will collapse like wet cardboard. Mud doesn't matter. These civilian mobs need to get off the trains and immediately get hammered. Waiting until Spring is not good. Someone might get some training on something and get acclimated. There was a battle in Finland, Toljavarii, where a Finn company wiped out a Russian battalion because they caught them standing around bonfires at midnight instead of pulling security. That sort of dumb shit is going to be happening in a month or two. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:19:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
A few years ago I read a book on Russia/USSR and this had just always been the case. The Russian SSR lived high on the hog while the other “members” were just shit all over, used and abused. Honestly Moscow doesn’t care. They want the land, the resources, and the cannon fodder whether it’s for war or industry. Keep them at arms length, in line, so the stench doesn’t enter the loftier areas. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:20:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: I think I can make a pretty accurate guess as to what the topic will be. Time for António Guterres to go in hard and deep, along with the rest of the UN member nations. Russia should be removed from the UNSC and they should also be branded as a state sponsor of terror by as many nations as possible. It is time to break it off in those twisted fucks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I think I can make a pretty accurate guess as to what the topic will be. Time for António Guterres to go in hard and deep, along with the rest of the UN member nations. Russia should be removed from the UNSC and they should also be branded as a state sponsor of terror by as many nations as possible. It is time to break it off in those twisted fucks. Unfortunatly they are the types of people that the “strongly worded letter” jokes originated from. UN leadership outside of Western Democracy Conservatives have been the “weak men create hard times” personification. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:23:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Soft targets eh? I guess a bunch of pudgy, out of shape Russian alcoholics would qualify as "soft targets". Little cubes of tungsten traveling at nearly hypersonic velocity should make their stay in Ukraine quite unpleasant. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small Soft targets eh? I guess a bunch of pudgy, out of shape Russian alcoholics would qualify as "soft targets". Little cubes of tungsten traveling at nearly hypersonic velocity should make their stay in Ukraine quite unpleasant. Look at the ground in front of the wall. Dodge that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:25:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Soft targets eh? I guess a bunch of pudgy, out of shape Russian alcoholics would qualify as "soft targets". Little cubes of tungsten traveling at nearly hypersonic velocity should make their stay in Ukraine quite unpleasant. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6FP-oWIAYAQqS?format=jpg&name=small Soft targets eh? I guess a bunch of pudgy, out of shape Russian alcoholics would qualify as "soft targets". Little cubes of tungsten traveling at nearly hypersonic velocity should make their stay in Ukraine quite unpleasant. Hitting front lines and trenches….not just buildings in the rear. |
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