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Originally Posted By kncook: Just cut to the chase man. "The reported numbers from Ukraine of 500-700 Orcs a day killed is propaganda, Russia is winning, Putin is trying to stop the GloboHomo agenda, 50 dead orcs lying dead in an open field of advance in one picture is no human wave attack, WEF, Kluas Schwab, reeeee, etc, etc, etc Oh, and fuck Ukraine and Russia .cuz I'm not biased and all." Now you don't have to post anymore. I got it all out there for you. You're welcome. View Quote Bro just send him to ignore list gulag he has already been on mine. |
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So try as you may, feeble, your attempt to atone Your words to erase all the damage cannot A tempest must be just that |
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 30 min ago.
View Quote Probably their own shitty missiles falling out early |
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Originally Posted By Tacosis: I've read several times in this thread lately that the Russians are using "human wave" attacks. Is this really the case? As in hundreds or thousands of guys mass attacking a position? I've seen no video other otherwise evidence of this. Should some slow their roll with this term? View Quote I think you are picturing a "human wave attack" from the movie Zulu Dawn or something similar. You will not see 200 guys stacked up shoulder to shoulder attacking across a 100 yard scrimmage line. More like 200 guys rushing across a 1Km from, rushing from shell hole to shell hole, but mostly crawling. What we usually end up seeing in the drone video's is 4-5 guys that make it to a UA position with the ensuing 50M distant shooting and grenade tossing. But it IS the 2023 version of the zerg rush wave attack. Which I think is very similar to a WWI attack but with less men and less discipline. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Hopeful update. Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 16:37 Tvaryuk Russians targeted a residential building in Dnipro. Previously, ten were injured. Two of them are children. Three of the injured are serious. Everyone is in the hospital now. #russiaisaterroriststate https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA/2988 View Quote I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. |
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Konstantine says full mobilization has started quietly, slowly, but deliberately. INSIDE RUSSIA youtube channel.
Putin tried partial mobilization and the result was hundreds of thousands fled the country. The people don't support it, but they are afraid to oppose it. Russia learned that announcing mobilization was a bad plan. The next phase of mobilization will be kept secret as much as is possible. Putin refused to sign a document saying partial mobilization was over, and people did ask why he refused to sign that. He simply refused to answer why he refused to formally end partial mobilization. It never ended. On nov 25 putin ordered the KGB to make a consolidated national database of who is eligible for mobilization and where they are now. Where they work, live, family. And to calm the general population he said it would not be needed until April. It's almost certainly finished right now. Naturalized russian citizens who went to russia for work and such from asia mostly have been added to the list of people eligible for mobilization, about 1 million people. Ukranian intelligence reports russia is now quietly closing the border. Like tightening a ratchet strap, click by click, groups of people are being added to the list of those who may not leave russia. Ukraine better have lots of bullets. MOBILISATION 2023 STARTED | All You Need To Know Explained |
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Originally Posted By Peengwin: I wonder about the rail lines, too. Derail the locomotive, that line is done for a while. Heavy equipment time, not just a squad of jokers fixing a piece of track. View Quote It's really not crippling in an operational or strategic sense. The rail lines can be repaired by a half drunk crew in hours/days and even a derailment shouldn't take more than a week. So the only ways to keep the rail lines down for long periods are sustained attacks or targeting bridges. The sustained attacks don't really make sense to use expensive PGM's (excalibur or GMLRS) against cheap rail lines, which means a dangerous job for partisans. |
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When I was on Christmas break, I was able to read 4 out of 5 pages in this thread. Now I'm back to work, it's more like 2 out of 7.
I appreciate all the regular contributors here for keeping things up to date. This thread is a better news source than nearly all the "mainstream media." |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Prime: Hopeful update. Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 16:37 Tvaryuk Russians targeted a residential building in Dnipro. Previously, ten were injured. Two of them are children. Three of the injured are serious. Everyone is in the hospital now. #russiaisaterroriststate https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA/2988 I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. Did you guys get an adequate warning when the missiles were launched? I'm hoping those in the apartment building went to shelters. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Probably their own shitty missiles falling out early View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 30 min ago.
Probably their own shitty missiles falling out early Not out of the realm of possibilities. |
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"Possible artillery duel with arrivals in Shebekinsky district", Russian source.
https://t.me/belgorod_informant/2800 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Did you guys get an adequate warning when the missiles were launched? I'm hoping those in the apartment building went to shelters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Prime: Hopeful update. Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 16:37 Tvaryuk Russians targeted a residential building in Dnipro. Previously, ten were injured. Two of them are children. Three of the injured are serious. Everyone is in the hospital now. #russiaisaterroriststate https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA/2988 I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. Did you guys get an adequate warning when the missiles were launched? I'm hoping those in the apartment building went to shelters. Yes there was the siren. The reality is most people aren't running to a shelter. It becomes normal at some point. I've heard hundreds of explosions. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Fuck that sent a chill through me. |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: Yes there was the siren. The reality is most people aren't running to a shelter. It becomes normal at some point. I've heard hundreds of explosions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Prime: Hopeful update. Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 16:37 Tvaryuk Russians targeted a residential building in Dnipro. Previously, ten were injured. Two of them are children. Three of the injured are serious. Everyone is in the hospital now. #russiaisaterroriststate https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA/2988 I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. Did you guys get an adequate warning when the missiles were launched? I'm hoping those in the apartment building went to shelters. Yes there was the siren. The reality is most people aren't running to a shelter. It becomes normal at some point. I've heard hundreds of explosions. Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: They hit an apartment building here. Fuck this is horrible. https://mobile.twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1614261817660043273 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/FmcFiXuX0AIsu44_jpeg-2671567.JPG In the other pics it looks like the whole unit is wiped out. Probably a lot of people at home. Hopefully most were out shopping for the new year. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/FmcHSAcWQAArwKe_jpeg-2671593.JPG View Quote That’s horrible |
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Originally Posted By Peengwin: I wonder about the rail lines, too. Derail the locomotive, that line is done for a while. Heavy equipment time, not just a squad of jokers fixing a piece of track. View Quote Target locomotives specifically. Supposedly Russia only has so many and cannot easily replace them. Actual train tracks can be fixed in a few hours. |
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4 Bradley’s lost already today |
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Blyat
Let's go Brandon President of the Volodymyr Zelenskyy fan club |
Originally Posted By fadedsun:
4 Bradley’s lost already today View Quote They will take kiev anytime now |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmbbmQQX0AA05Rg?format=jpg&name=large View Quote That just sums up the war pretty well..."Russia destroys a Ukrainian maternity hospital while Ukraine destroys a Russian missile complex".. |
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
4 Bradley’s lost already today View Quote So a little later today we will have a thread about it. |
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Blameless, the tempest will be just that
So try as you may, feeble, your attempt to atone Your words to erase all the damage cannot A tempest must be just that |
Originally Posted By fadedsun: Rifled gun, separate 3 piece ammunition View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By TotalNovice: The BBC today says the UK is sending a few Challenger tanks. But they use non standard ammo? https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-64274704 Rifled gun, separate 3 piece ammunition 3 pieces? |
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Originally Posted By kncook: Just cut to the chase man. "The reported numbers from Ukraine of 500-700 Orcs a day killed is propaganda, Russia is winning, Putin is trying to stop the GloboHomo agenda, 50 dead orcs lying dead in an open field of advance in one picture is no human wave attack, WEF, Kluas Schwab, reeeee, etc, etc, etc Oh, and fuck Ukraine and Russia .cuz I'm not biased and all." Now you don't have to post anymore. I got it all out there for you. You're welcome. View Quote I don't think this is entirely fair. He could be a troll sure but to be honest I'm not sure I'm totally on board with labeling anything we've seen "human wave attacks" either. Can we call it splitting hairs? Sure, but to me the term has always had a specific meaning - overwhelming defenses with pure massed numbers and closing to close combat - which honestly Russia doesn't have the manpower to use. I 100% think Russia places less value on lives than we do, and probably uses troops like the prison battalions to find defenses before sending in the "good" units. But I wouldn't put myself in the category of a troll or pro-Russian or align myself with a bunch of stupid stuff like you're saying. I would hope that wouldn't mean I'm on the ignore list of a bunch of people here. |
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
4 Bradley’s lost already today View Quote I know you're joking but if they somehow did take out a Bradley that "arrived early" you know there would be a million pictures and they'd be displaying it everywhere. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. View Quote When I was in Al Khobar (Saudi A.) during the air war in '91 we would get a SCUD launch warning and would go to full MOPP-4 and hunker down. After about a week of that, we would ignore everything and run to the roof in PT shorts and watch our Patriots launching and hitting the SCUD's above. We were stupid kids but complacency happens. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Konstantine says full mobilization has started quietly, slowly, but deliberately. INSIDE RUSSIA youtube channel. Putin tried partial mobilization and the result was hundreds of thousands fled the country. The people don't support it, but they are afraid to oppose it. Russia learned that announcing mobilization was a bad plan. The next phase of mobilization will be kept secret as much as is possible. Putin refused to sign a document saying partial mobilization was over, and people did ask why he refused to sign that. He simply refused to answer why he refused to formally end partial mobilization. It never ended. On nov 25 putin ordered the KGB to make a consolidated national database of who is eligible for mobilization and where they are now. Where they work, live, family. And to calm the general population he said it would not be needed until April. It's almost certainly finished right now. Naturalized russian citizens who went to russia for work and such from asia mostly have been added to the list of people eligible for mobilization, about 1 million people. Ukranian intelligence reports russia is now quietly closing the border. Like tightening a ratchet strap, click by click, groups of people are being added to the list of those who may not leave russia. Ukraine better have lots of bullets. View Quote the KGB was officially dissolved in 1991. It was later succeeded the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) and then the Federal Security Service (FSB). But I get your point. Different names, the same substance. |
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Originally Posted By coleridge: Long time thread reader here.... I have a very amateur question. Do the Ukrainians have a good capability to heavily target the rail lines from Russia into Ukraine? And if they do, how severe would it hamper the Rus? View Quote Amateur Answer here; yes they have the ability to target the tracks but they are easily fixed. Russia has Train Troops dedicated to keeping the rail lines running. Russia has shitty or non existent roads so they rely on trains for logistics. |
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Blyat
Let's go Brandon President of the Volodymyr Zelenskyy fan club |
Blyat
Let's go Brandon President of the Volodymyr Zelenskyy fan club |
Originally Posted By weptek911: Amateur Answer here; yes they have the ability to target the tracks but they are easily fixed. Russia has Train Troops dedicated to keeping the rail lines running. Russia has shitty or non existent roads so they rely on trains for logistics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By coleridge: Long time thread reader here.... I have a very amateur question. Do the Ukrainians have a good capability to heavily target the rail lines from Russia into Ukraine? And if they do, how severe would it hamper the Rus? Amateur Answer here; yes they have the ability to target the tracks but they are easily fixed. Russia has Train Troops dedicated to keeping the rail lines running. Russia has shitty or non existent roads so they rely on trains for logistics. But if they hit a bridge or wreck a train badly it would prevent supplies for a lot longer. |
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Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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Originally Posted By Peengwin: I wonder about the rail lines, too. Derail the locomotive, that line is done for a while. Heavy equipment time, not just a squad of jokers fixing a piece of track. View Quote Depending on how bad it’s messed up and what/how many resources are put to it, maybe a week based on what we see in the US. If they can get some rail bridges or trestles even longer. So ideally they need some follow-up strikes when the RR work parties and cranes and other equipment are out there working on the damaged section But I think by the looks of most the the attacks on RR lines it’s sapper or saboteur action. So less likely for follow up. The work crew are probably reasonably well defended with attached infantry |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: When I was in Al Khobar (Saudi A.) during the air war in '91 we would get a SCUD launch warning and would go to full MOPP-4 and hunker down. After about a week of that, we would ignore everything and run to the roof in PT shorts and watch our Patriots launching and hitting the SCUD's above. We were stupid kids but complacency happens. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. When I was in Al Khobar (Saudi A.) during the air war in '91 we would get a SCUD launch warning and would go to full MOPP-4 and hunker down. After about a week of that, we would ignore everything and run to the roof in PT shorts and watch our Patriots launching and hitting the SCUD's above. We were stupid kids but complacency happens. I completely understand. Years ago I serviced C-RAM systems and seeing videos like this made me understand, glad they felt safe enough to go out and film the interceptions at least. C-RAM Shoots Down Incoming Rockets Over Bagram Air Base Afghanistan/C-RAM engages Taliban 107mm |
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#53 says, "Take 22 mg absorbed Vit C per lb plus 1 gram Chaga daily. Don't forget 2000iu Vit D-3 & K-2, 30 mg Zinc and 2 mg Cu."
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View Quote When you start off with “the” its an automatic eyebrow raising. Is this a legitimate war update or some dumbass “conservative” who is now embracing our long Time socialist adversary? |
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Blyat
Let's go Brandon President of the Volodymyr Zelenskyy fan club |
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Missiles over Dnipropetrovsk
Air defense was working in Kryvyi Rih https://t.me/dnepr_operativ Kryvyi Rih Mayorsays air defense active, missiles still incoming https://t.me/vilkul/2574 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By stone-age: Konstantine says full mobilization has started quietly, slowly, but deliberately. INSIDE RUSSIA youtube channel. Putin tried partial mobilization and the result was hundreds of thousands fled the country. The people don't support it, but they are afraid to oppose it. Russia learned that announcing mobilization was a bad plan. The next phase of mobilization will be kept secret as much as is possible. Putin refused to sign a document saying partial mobilization was over, and people did ask why he refused to sign that. He simply refused to answer why he refused to formally end partial mobilization. It never ended. On nov 25 putin ordered the KGB to make a consolidated national database of who is eligible for mobilization and where they are now. Where they work, live, family. And to calm the general population he said it would not be needed until April. It's almost certainly finished right now. Naturalized russian citizens who went to russia for work and such from asia mostly have been added to the list of people eligible for mobilization, about 1 million people. Ukranian intelligence reports russia is now quietly closing the border. Like tightening a ratchet strap, click by click, groups of people are being added to the list of those who may not leave russia. Ukraine better have lots of bullets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amGgnM_Il3Y View Quote Good info, thanks for posting. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By NE223: In many ways the Swiss are a bigger pain in the ass than the Germans. After this is over it would be great if everyone building weapons figured out a way to do without Swiss systems and or components. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NE223: Originally Posted By Prime: Spain wants to transfer Aspide anti-aircraft missile systems to Ukraine, but due to the neutrality of Switzerland, this is difficult to implement, - Blick. The missiles used in the complex have Swiss-made components, and therefore Switzerland vetoes the supply of Aspide air defense systems to Ukraine. By the way, our fighters have already been trained in the operation of this complex. https://t.me/killpukin/13030 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmZDipKXwAIaJs-?format=jpg&name=medium In many ways the Swiss are a bigger pain in the ass than the Germans. After this is over it would be great if everyone building weapons figured out a way to do without Swiss systems and or components. |
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Nighttime drone video of Dnipro apartment building
Dnipro As of 5:50 p.m., 20 people (including 3 children) have been rescued. 5 people died, 27 people were injured (including 6 children) and were hospitalized. A fire is observed on the level of the second floor on an area of 70 square meters. and 15 cars caught fire. Damaged and surviving parts of the house are being examined. In total, more than 230 people and 67 units were involved in the works. techniques Psychologists of the State Emergency Service are working at the scene and heating points are being set up. Organized lighting of the work site. The coordination of search and rescue operations is carried out by the head of the Department of State Emergency Services in the Dnipropetrovsk region, Yu.O. Koretsky, the mayor of the city, Boris Filatov, and the head of the military administration of the Dnipropetrovsk region, Valentin Reznichenko. https://t.me/tymoshenko_kyrylo The enemy fired at two DTEK thermal power plants, one of them stopped electricity production. During today's massive shelling, the occupiers attacked two thermal power plants of DTEK Energo, which had already been repeatedly hit by the enemy. Fortunately, no one was injured. As a result of shelling, the equipment of the TPP was damaged. Immediately after the end of the attack, the energy industry began to promptly eliminate the consequences. This is already the 26th terrorist attack on DTEK energy facilities. We are working on restoring the equipment as soon as possible. Let's hold on 🇺🇦 https://t.me/dtek_ua/180 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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I'm starting to be concerned about the end outcome of this war. I know the Ukrainians have the tenacity and will to fight, and hopefully the West will keep providing more and more weapons, but I can't help but to think what the outcome will be if Russia sends a million men or more in an overwhelming offensive after they are fully mobilized. Even if they are poorly equipped, defending against them will be a tough bloody fight. ETA I originally accidentally clicked on the wrong quote. My intent was to quote the post about the mobilization in Russia. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmbHvHOXwAAyLub?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote Edit/caveat- AT points out that this guy is controversial. It appears he often leans toward pro-Russian or at least seems to support Russian narratives, and more importantly is posting information that pro-Ukrainians consider sensitive. Treat with caution. Click To View Spoiler
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: It's to boost the short range HE power, especially against buildings / trenches. Comments suggest that it has ~3x the effect of a normal RPG frag warhead, which is easy to believe given the size. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: DIY 'Super Frag' RPG warheads made from Fire Extinguishers. Reportedly ~1kg HE + ~1kg frag filler https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmCOz_vXkAAQOtw?format=jpg&name=medium https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10b069v/chechen_from_the_sheikh_mansour_battalion_using/
surely thats not real, they have millions of RPG heads, I dont see them needing to make homemade ones out of garbage..lol It's to boost the short range HE power, especially against buildings / trenches. Comments suggest that it has ~3x the effect of a normal RPG frag warhead, which is easy to believe given the size. The Chechians in Ukraine are improvisers. Buy rocket booster, take apart burnt or damaged 152 shells or mines, pack it and send cost? Probably cartoon of smokes for the spg9 boosters. They don’t get the best gear from UA but have a history of improvising since forever. |
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