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Posted: 1/14/2023 12:46:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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UA Energy Minister
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2023 12:55:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: But if they hit a bridge or wreck a train badly it would prevent supplies for a lot longer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By coleridge: Long time thread reader here.... I have a very amateur question. Do the Ukrainians have a good capability to heavily target the rail lines from Russia into Ukraine? And if they do, how severe would it hamper the Rus? Amateur Answer here; yes they have the ability to target the tracks but they are easily fixed. Russia has Train Troops dedicated to keeping the rail lines running. Russia has shitty or non existent roads so they rely on trains for logistics. But if they hit a bridge or wreck a train badly it would prevent supplies for a lot longer. Hit a bridge while a train carrying fuel/ammo is crossing. Hit again while crews are repairing. It's a four-for-two - wreck the bridge, blow up the ammo, wreck a train, kill repair crews.  Yes, I know in the real world, that's a really low-probability score. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 12:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: They hit an apartment building here. Fuck this is horrible. https://mobile.twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1614261817660043273 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/FmcFiXuX0AIsu44_jpeg-2671567.JPG In the other pics it looks like the whole unit is wiped out. Probably a lot of people at home. Hopefully most were out shopping for the new year.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/FmcHSAcWQAArwKe_jpeg-2671593.JPG Omg, that’s horrific. I am so sorry.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunn19: I'm starting to be concerned about the end outcome of this war. I know the Ukrainians have the tenacity and will to fight, and hopefully the West will keep providing more and more weapons, but I can't help but to think what the outcome will be if Russia sends a million men or more in an overwhelming offensive after they are fully mobilized. Even if they are poorly equipped, defending against them will be a tough bloody fight. ETA I originally accidentally clicked on the wrong quote. My intent was to quote the post about the mobilization in Russia. Yes, that's why this winter/spring is critical. No matter how badly equipped, a half-million new mobiks is a lot of meat. Ukraine needs to advance now. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:01:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmbTfIFWQAEY55s?format=jpg&name=large Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmbTfIFWQAEY55s?format=jpg&name=large Be careful with Julian's posts, he has a history despite having a Ukrainian flag in his profile. He has been wrong so much I have him on ignore for Twitter.
 
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:04:40 PM EDT
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Embargo Russian oil/gas.
Send ATACMs & armor. Moscow delenda est! |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: I know you're joking but if they somehow did take out a Bradley that "arrived early" you know there would be a million pictures and they'd be displaying it everywhere. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By fadedsun:
4 Bradley’s lost already today I know you're joking but if they somehow did take out a Bradley that "arrived early" you know there would be a million pictures and they'd be displaying it everywhere. Same as with the HIMARS that they claim to have destroyed all of them but provided zero evidence they have even destroyed one let alone all of them. And then the Russian YouTubers use the fact that US shipped a couple over as proof that all the previous ones have been whiped out. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Be careful with Julian's posts, he has a history despite having a Ukrainian flag in his profile. He has been wrong so much I have him on ignore for Twitter.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXXt3eXkAcD8fg?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXQ4i2XoAIcO5Q?format=png&name=small Good catch, he sounded familiar so I did a quick scan and saw a bunch of ukraine stuff. Noted, albeit once again mentally  |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: When you start off with “the” its an automatic eyebrow raising. Is this a legitimate war update or some dumbass “conservative” who is now embracing our long Time socialist adversary? It is typical nonsense he likes posting. Something about Zelenskyy being a puppet because he was an actor just like AOC is a puppet because she was a bartender. Then some bitching about Zelenskyy coming to DC seeking more aid. Then she goes on to say Ukraine isn't an independent country but a "territory". Turned it off after that. Anyone brave enough to watch more? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Good catch, he sounded familiar so I did a quick scan and saw a bunch of ukraine stuff. Noted, albeit once again mentally Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Be careful with Julian's posts, he has a history despite having a Ukrainian flag in his profile. He has been wrong so much I have him on ignore for Twitter.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXXt3eXkAcD8fg?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXQ4i2XoAIcO5Q?format=png&name=small Good catch, he sounded familiar so I did a quick scan and saw a bunch of ukraine stuff. Noted, albeit once again mentally lol, I know, it's hard to keep track of the sources sometimes.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:18:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
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Quote HistoryMan that hurt my brain. She's still on the US=Evil and Ukraine Jew-Nazi cabal line  Also I like the new talking point that has popped up of Ukrainian multi generational guilt for WWII crimes while at the same time (correctly) not acceping that current American have fuck all guilt for slavery. Conservatives should win on the merit of their arguments bringing them closer to the truth. Russia compromised conservatives just seem to spew out random stuff without any attention cuase and effect or even affect the actual case at hand. It's all so sad and tiresome for me but later I'll do a summation of the tardednes
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:19:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Be careful with Julian's posts, he has a history despite having a Ukrainian flag in his profile. He has been wrong so much I have him on ignore for Twitter.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXXt3eXkAcD8fg?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXQ4i2XoAIcO5Q?format=png&name=small He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia.  I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: My view is they are not at all a pain in the arse. The Swiss always favored neutrality and has never been a member of NATO. The pain in the arse is NATO countries using Swiss components in their weapons. All the while knowingly sign the transfer contract that requires them to get Swiss permission to transfer to any other nation. Stupidity, and NATO should have put a stop to this. I sort of get why offensive systems might be an issue, but defensive systems like surface to air missiles shouldn't be held up. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:25:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm confused by these numbers, so someone else look at them  https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02kXFoFrQ4rqhyTWJpzDGWqmakcYY4M3TxaevNeJyvdDGbTnhs2cJYKcDecbN3pC5Nl |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:27:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia. I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. That was more what I was seeing, kinda seemed like he was being discredited because he was keeping it a little too real. However, if he's been wrong enough for AT to ignore him, that's different altogether. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:31:57 PM EDT
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Latest intercept tally.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:34:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I'm confused by these numbers, so someone else look at them https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/14Jan23_PNG-2671772.png https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02kXFoFrQ4rqhyTWJpzDGWqmakcYY4M3TxaevNeJyvdDGbTnhs2cJYKcDecbN3pC5Nl Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm confused by these numbers, so someone else look at them https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/14Jan23_PNG-2671772.png https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02kXFoFrQ4rqhyTWJpzDGWqmakcYY4M3TxaevNeJyvdDGbTnhs2cJYKcDecbN3pC5Nl Yeah, basically Ukraine is unable to intercept with any reliability any S-300 type missiles used in ground to ground strikes, so any number of those strikes aren't counted in the tally. Winged missiles are any cruise missiles and air launched guided systems that they can intercept, and you'll see a tally of these. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:37:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: That was more what I was seeing, kinda seemed like he was being discredited because he was keeping it a little too real. However, if he's been wrong enough for AT to ignore him, that's different altogether. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By amanbearpig: He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia. I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. That was more what I was seeing, kinda seemed like he was being discredited because he was keeping it a little too real. However, if he's been wrong enough for AT to ignore him, that's different altogether. I try to keep Russian sources that are going to give good information on what is going on, they all have their version of events but Julian jumps the gun when he see's the first Russian footage of a Ukrainian assault and calls the entire operation a failure. He's done it for every Ukrainian offensive so far and so he's discredited himself. I trust Wagner and other units to give better and more honest info.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:39:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:47:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Prime: Hopeful update. Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 16:37 Tvaryuk Russians targeted a residential building in Dnipro. Previously, ten were injured. Two of them are children. Three of the injured are serious. Everyone is in the hospital now. #russiaisaterroriststate https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA/2988 I'm just thinking of all the people that were home and are now buried. It isn't extremely cold, but it was sleeting/snowing a bit a couple hours ago. A good day to stay indoors. This was roughly ~2 miles from here, if what i think is correct. I think i have been in that area. Those buildings look familiar. Did you guys get an adequate warning when the missiles were launched? I'm hoping those in the apartment building went to shelters. Yes there was the siren. The reality is most people aren't running to a shelter. It becomes normal at some point. I've heard hundreds of explosions. Thanks, yeah I can understand why people don't go every time a siren goes off. You wouldn't expect multi million dollar cruise missiles to hit civilian apartments usually. You would be constantly sheltering. Ukraine is mostly not Handicap friendly. No power, go up down 8 stair flights to sit in basement 3 hours 3x a day. I didn’t do it unless it was in an area with artillery or rocket stuff. It gets old and life goes on you play the numbers game in the cities. More dangerous by numbers to go out at night at my old college city. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:52:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia. I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Be careful with Julian's posts, he has a history despite having a Ukrainian flag in his profile. He has been wrong so much I have him on ignore for Twitter.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXXt3eXkAcD8fg?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmXQ4i2XoAIcO5Q?format=png&name=small He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia. I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. Roepke is a yellow press journalist from the "Bild", a "newspaper" that sells fear and bullshit. Please don't assume anything he says to be true without double or better tripple checking. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:53:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:57:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmcz_EKWAAICZ3Q?format=jpg&name=medium That’s a big one looks like a 400kg minimum. Saying skinzals or ballistics missiles this time. Patriot needs to deploy quick and they need ATCMs plus handcuffs off. Dnipro ok thought it was pic of Kyiv strike. Not sure what hit you guys, looks big though. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:00:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I try to keep Russian sources that are going to give good information on what is going on, they all have their version of events but Julian jumps the gun when he see's the first Russian footage of a Ukrainian assault and calls the entire operation a failure. He's done it for every Ukrainian offensive so far and so he's discredited himself. I trust Wagner and other units to give better and more honest info. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By amanbearpig: He's overall quite pro-Ukraine, but tries to be a "journalist" in reporting. The NAFO reaction to him was pretty ridiculous. He, like everyone else on Twitter, was using a bunch of social media videos to try and accurately determine the front lines in Soledar. He used a video from Ukrainian troops, to point out where the front line roughly was, and suddenly he was accused of giving Ukranian troop locations to Russia. I have no idea where that came from but he wasn't pointing out emplacements or defensive measures or anything, just hey from this video we see this building so ergo Ukraine controls up through here. That was more what I was seeing, kinda seemed like he was being discredited because he was keeping it a little too real. However, if he's been wrong enough for AT to ignore him, that's different altogether. I try to keep Russian sources that are going to give good information on what is going on, they all have their version of events but Julian jumps the gun when he see's the first Russian footage of a Ukrainian assault and calls the entire operation a failure. He's done it for every Ukrainian offensive so far and so he's discredited himself. I trust Wagner and other units to give better and more honest info. 100% on that assessment. Wagner is miles better.  |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
"Magyar and his valkyries". Aye jaga jaga. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:07:20 PM EDT
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Quick update, Soledar mostly overrun, probably not news. Radios invoice coming by Monday. Guys got call so at least 68 maybe able to help in counter. Russian committed a large portion of their reserves in Soledar, Kupiansk, and in Zap/Donetsk.
Ukraine has not committed large reserves yet. Not sure how much they have built up but they do have a pretty large reserve dispersed. Waiting on new equipment, extra training. Probably the smart long term thing. Return gifts, FR_ORCs  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunn19: I'm starting to be concerned about the end outcome of this war. I know the Ukrainians have the tenacity and will to fight, and hopefully the West will keep providing more and more weapons, but I can't help but to think what the outcome will be if Russia sends a million men or more in an overwhelming offensive after they are fully mobilized. Even if they are poorly equipped, defending against them will be a tough bloody fight. ETA I originally accidentally clicked on the wrong quote. My intent was to quote the post about the mobilization in Russia. I think that if it truly looked like Ukraine was collapsing, there would be a very good chance that Poland would roll in to backstop Ukrainian forces. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:19:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Quick update, Soledar mostly overrun, probably not news. Radios invoice coming by Monday. Guys got call so at least 68 maybe able to help in counter. Russian committed a large portion of their reserves in Soledar, Kupiansk, and in Zap/Donetsk. Ukraine has not committed large reserves yet. Not sure how much they have built up but they do have a pretty large reserve dispersed. Waiting on new equipment, extra training. Probably the smart long term thing. Return gifts, FR_ORCs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/AF5FC709-53A6-4F69-8138-9D5AF972F207_jpe-2671801.JPG UA just completed a big interagency training exercise near Belarus, and while I don't know this to be true it would make sense to standardize all that international training in a realistic environment while sending a big "fuck off" up north. https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-stages-war-games-near-belarus-amid-talk-of-russian-assault-/6914480.html |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:20:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun:
4 Bradley’s lost already today They might as well start reporting destroyed Challenger IIs, Leopard IIs and M1 Abrams. Get a jump on any deliveries. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:22:17 PM EDT
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Perfect soundtrack.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:23:59 PM EDT
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 People being pulled out from under rubble at night in Dnipro - Latest images from the hit building |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:25:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Dnipro emergency response.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:36:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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I've been waiting to see this video.
This morning, Russian TG posted a picture of a crater to gloat as the missiles started hitting. It seemed odd that it was edited, because a Ukrainian posting this would just have a dirt hole in the ground. It seemed more likely that it was edited to hide the almost certain fact that there was nothing military or even remotely juicy in the area that was worth a multimillion dollar munition.  Full video,
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:44:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:52:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: UA just completed a big interagency training exercise near Belarus, and while I don't know this to be true it would make sense to standardize all that international training in a realistic environment while sending a big "fuck off" up north. https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-stages-war-games-near-belarus-amid-talk-of-russian-assault-/6914480.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Quick update, Soledar mostly overrun, probably not news. Radios invoice coming by Monday. Guys got call so at least 68 maybe able to help in counter. Russian committed a large portion of their reserves in Soledar, Kupiansk, and in Zap/Donetsk. Ukraine has not committed large reserves yet. Not sure how much they have built up but they do have a pretty large reserve dispersed. Waiting on new equipment, extra training. Probably the smart long term thing. Return gifts, FR_ORCs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/AF5FC709-53A6-4F69-8138-9D5AF972F207_jpe-2671801.JPG UA just completed a big interagency training exercise near Belarus, and while I don't know this to be true it would make sense to standardize all that international training in a realistic environment while sending a big "fuck off" up north. https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-stages-war-games-near-belarus-amid-talk-of-russian-assault-/6914480.html Yeah most of my friends get rotated back in that direction every few months. That’s why I dismiss the Belarus thing at anytime there is a huge number of guys near the border or within a short drive to that front should it open up. A unit map may say something but they are not very correct. They train guys up at various places between liyviv and Kyiv. Lots of places. Each has at a minimum a large training cadre and equipment as well as local TDF and HQ elements. Soledar is mostly under Rus control but not entirely. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:53:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 2:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:03:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: the KGB was officially dissolved in 1991. It was later succeeded the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) and then the Federal Security Service (FSB). But I get your point. Different names, the same substance. You are absolutely right. I've pretty much given up on calling them anything other than the KGB and the USSR because that is effectively what they are and besides, there's a bunch of russians who want it to be that. I was watching one of their state TV shows or whatever it is and they were basically saying that they are soviets if they were born during that time, as opposed to being russians. I have also seen russian state TV personalities saying that everybody dies, so people should stop being afraid of dying on the front lines. Russian pride, empire, endure, toughness, etc etc etc blah blah blah be proud to die for mother russia. They are getting the people ready. Fuckers. 
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: They might as well start reporting destroyed Challenger IIs, Leopard IIs and M1 Abrams. Get a jump on any deliveries. Almost every last thing the russian media/govt says is in order to manipulate their own people. And they've done a lot to make sure the people don't hear anything else from anybody else. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:19:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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35 rescued from under the rubble. Hopefully stable.
 https://www.facebook.com/UA.National.Police/posts/pfbid0DUGmTeKki569hsa1GLcpBq4S5hJbJs8jrpjh6JynXCsRcnUiYu9EpvLX9rRWvg1Nl More than 100 rescuers are sorting through the rubble of a house damaged by a Russian missile. They are looking for people under the wreckage. Doctors, dog trainers, and communal services are working. Residents of neighboring houses also come to help. Thanks to everyone who helps. It is very difficult for us, but we will persevere. https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic He's pretty well respected and has owned up in the rare case he's wrong. Anyone who's trying to do this right will be pretty fuzzy on exactly where Ukrainian forces are, and dead accurate on where Russian forces are, which will give the appearance of giving territory to Russia. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:23:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak: Everything's still painted for the desert. I'd like to see the setup for getting all those vehicles ready for the front line. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By Veccio:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3fAnVa3krEGood bit of vehicles arriving, the Col is saying 1250 pieces but also says "multiple other ports in Europe". Brads, Paladins, bridges, support trucks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:25:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmc4uYaXwAIM_Qw?format=jpg&name=large Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic Hes been pretty accurate when it comes to daily front line updates, but he is cautious about reports. The yellow areas on his maps are where he thinks the fighting is going on or contested. He deliberately is a day or two behind on reporting at times because he geolocates positions in videos for his maps. If you check him out he is definitely pro Ukraine. Recent tweet examples:
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Veccio: It's from 2nd BCT according to the vid comments, going to Poland and/or Baltics Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Veccio: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Originally Posted By Veccio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3fAnVa3krEGood bit of vehicles arriving, the Col is saying 1250 pieces but also says "multiple other ports in Europe". Brads, Paladins, bridges, support trucks. I honestly think the Russians jumped the gun on that, saw a bunch of stuff coming over and figured it had to be about them and others went with it. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:28:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmc4uYaXwAIM_Qw?format=jpg&name=large Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic I've been following him for months and think he's pretty level headed. I don't know about his background other than being retired USN. His info is usually accurate; he doesn't shoot from the hip and does a good job keeping some of the more outlandish claims from other channels in check. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:32:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Man that hurt my brain. She's still on the US=Evil and Ukraine Jew-Nazi cabal line Also I like the new talking point that has popped up of Ukrainian multi generational guilt for WWII crimes while at the same time (correctly) not acceping that current American have fuck all guilt for slavery. Conservatives should win on the merit of their arguments bringing them closer to the truth. Russia compromised conservatives just seem to spew out random stuff without any attention cuase and effect or even affect the actual case at hand. It's all so sad and tiresome for me but later I'll do a summation of the tardednesThe Irony in all this is that (I believe) Lara Loomer is Jewish like Zelensky. Of all folks, she should know how improbable it is for a hands-on guy like Z to support no-shit NAZIs, or how unlikely it is for "blood and soil" types to willingly support a "Jewish" President. It is one thing to say that the Russians had some legitimate gripes about both US/EU foreign policy prior to 2014 (at least from the Russian point of view), or even to have questions about the legitimacy of the Russian takeover of Crimea and portions of the Donbass and Luhansk (considering the appearance of popular Russian support among the large portions of the populace of those regions and the relatively sparse fighting in the initial stages of the Russian takeover). However, in 2022, the masks came off. A meeting of remaining Russian supporters in Ukraine (particularly from areas "liberated" by the Russians) by this point in the game, could probably be held in a booth at Perkins or Dennys with seats left over. Another real irony is that the Orcs are destroying the property and consuming the lives of their most ardent supporters on BOTH sides of the Russia/Ukraine border. Large swaths of Ukrainians that previously considered themselves Russian now want nothing to do with Russia. Lara Loomer is not only wrong, at this point in history, she is irrelevant, and has the choice of outing herself as either a Putin tool or dumber than a box of rocks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 3:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: He's pretty well respected and has owned up in the rare case he's wrong. Anyone who's trying to do this right will be pretty fuzzy on exactly where Ukrainian forces are, and dead accurate on where Russian forces are, which will give the appearance of giving territory to Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Who is def mon his maps always seem Russian optimistic He's pretty well respected and has owned up in the rare case he's wrong. Anyone who's trying to do this right will be pretty fuzzy on exactly where Ukrainian forces are, and dead accurate on where Russian forces are, which will give the appearance of giving territory to Russia. Ukraine overall seems to have better information discipline. Since Russia is much noisier both officially and at the meat sack level it’s probably biasing things toward their world view a bit. Accurately assessing reality through the fog of war from pure osint is like playing Marco Polo. |
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