They have a 120mm rifled gun, everybody else with 120mm have smoothbores

He’s been around since Syria and was pretty useless back then.

In Dnipro, locals are helping rescuers to clear the rubble of a nine-story building hit by a Russian rocket. As of 20:00, 35 people were rescued from the rubble. Currently, 64 people are known to be injured, the rescue operation is ongoing, the National Police reported.

Part of the house will need to be dismantled. Mayor Filatov announced this at the scene: "All entrances on the right will have to be dismantled."

According to him, more than 1,100 people lived in the building.
https://t.me/suspilnenews/17606

Watch that second video.

Or for the Telegram squeamish-

Even children help to dismantle the rubble and clean up the consequences of the shelling in the #Dnipro.

More than 100 rescuers clear the rubble of a house damaged by a #Russian missile.

Local residents help employees of the State Emergency Service.#RussiaIsATerroristState pic.twitter.com/P7P0VCqOiy

— Tata Tedoradze\uD83C\uDDEC\uD83C\uDDEA (@TataTedoradze1) January 14, 2023

#Dnipro. People signal with flashlights for rescuers to free them from blocked apartments.
Source: Presidential Office pic.twitter.com/vnVSyDakKL

Iryna Voichuk  (@IrynaVoichuk) January 14, 2023

Just to put this in perspective, when the Miami Surfside tower collapsed, FEMA put five full USAR Task Forces on alert to go that same night, with about eight other federal agencies providing support. That's not counting all the local and state agencies, and it got way bigger after that.

This is happening with fire, EMS, and apparently volunteers.

Detailed report on the Russian missile attacks.

Report from Ukraine's Air Force on today's mass Russian missile attack on Ukraine (Google translated). pic.twitter.com/Kd2CciFwHa

— Euan MacDonald (@Euan_MacDonald) January 14, 2023

I am always surprised seeing guys posting videos of themselves on the front lines on places like tiktok, Telegram, or Twitter. There's no way I'd post where I'm at or anything that would give any clue where I'm sleeping or something. Sure, both sides in someplace like Soledar know in general the enemy locations, but posting actual emplacement or hideout info seems dumb. People are idiots for likes lol.

That's a pretty normal reaction I think. Ukraine has enough capability to hold what they have now but it appears they need more counterattack and offensive capability if they are to win back the south and east parts of their country. More MBTs with trained crews would help and getting more fighters would be a big boost if they can control more of the air over their ground forces. Ukraine has said this same thing countless times.

ETA-Also keep in mind that as far as the overall war goes, Soledar and Bakhmut aren't really that important and Ukraine is making the right move by not throwing a bunch of their reserve forces into a grinding battle for ground that offers little strategic value. If Ukraine wants to win this thing they need to win back the south by advancing south from the Zap & Pokrovske area and cutting the M14 supply line, and I'm sure Zaluzhnyi and Syrskyi know that.

"Do the tunnels under Ukraine's Soledar have significant military value?"

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"Russian soldiers seeking to shoot down a drone with a rifle and their SAD ENDING"

The weather and resulting terrain favors meat tactics. Everyone has been worried about Russia using this period to get its shit together a bit.

Ukraine probably isn’t keen on a counteroffensive that relies on roads. Unless it is a very wide front any good depth will have supporting GLOC’s under enemy fire control. Confinement to roads in deep armored assaults is what cost Russia 3/4’s of the smoothest part of its anus last spring.

How about a micro wave?

Some Ruzzian ordnance fireworks for y'all:

Dnipropetrovsk region, January 14, 9:54 p.m.
There are already 9 dead, among them a 15-year-old girl...
And 64 wounded - 59 hospitalized, the rest are being treated at home.
The Russian rocket brought grief to dozens of Dnipro families.
The time of payment will come.
#russiaisaterroriststate
https://t.me/dnipropetrovskaODA

Please forgive the way I am laying all this out. My seemingly schizophrenic brain appears to be almost overloaded as late. I have followed this thread from the beginning and seem to fall pages behind due to trying to read and watch what is being posted. I want to share some thoughts and ask some questions if that is OK.First, what was the 17th ship Ukraine got and when? I do not remember reading that.
Could Putin be causing the rift between regular army and Wagner to motivate both to fight harder? An angry competition between the two may provide motivation to both to prove their worth. Especially when they both are after the same objective such as Soledor. For months both groups attacked and were repelled by the AUK. What use to be a city of 70k or so. After continued failures they each set their sights  on Soledor, a town of 7k and still took a while to fully take tactical control over. But a "victory none the less, but for who? Wagner? Russian Army and VDV brought in from Kherson? who is to say?
Someone recently mentioned that UKR army has been training on certain weapon systems for some time leading to speculation of  how the systems are delegated to UKR. Logistics play a huge role in this I am sure as well as who the owner of the original system is is(ie: Leopards and Germany. I distinctly remember  a couple of significant things regarding this and have not heard about it since. Poland wanted to give UKR a bunch of MIGs and then be backfilled by the US with F-35's. This was agreed upon so long as it was a third party that gave Polands jets to UKR. Where did that go? I read a few weeks ago about UKR pilots training on F-16;s right here in the US, not just simulators but actual flight time. There were even comments from some engineers about the UKR having a different method of fighting that put to test the Falcons airframe that those engineers never conceived. So are there trained pilots waiting for Falcons? Are they now trining  more pilots in Europe?
All summer long and especially towards the end of summer we saw UKR make advance after advance as the weapons came in. Now, even though the weapons are still arriving and the RusFed is being damaged, there appears to be a standstill. The Rusfed is trying hard to take UKR land but at a high human cost. UKR seems to be doing just enough to hold(except Soledor) and antagonize RusFed to keep attacking. Artillery in Kherson, Full frontal assaults in Kremmina, Svatave and the like. Could Ukraine be using just enough and sitting on stores of equipment for the so called "spring" offensive? When would you guys imagine that could begin?
It seems to me that if things don't pick back up in the next couple of months, we could end up with a situation similar to 2015 after the Crimean annex.
And how long before they take out the newly repaired Kerch spans? It appears they have at least a few long range rockets, drones, or bic lighters left.
One more thing and I will go take another handful of meds the VA says I have to have to live. Looking at those pics of the Moscow S-400's made me wonder what would happen if someone in that high rise in the photo found a couple of Javelins and shot the middle truck? I know, keep dreaming.

How about if russia sends double the number of meat against bakhmut compared to what they have already sent? If enough russian soldiers are FORCED to attack Ukraine positions, some of those untrained and under equipped russian soldiers are going to get lucky. Ukrainian defenders will eventually get tired. And every time a group of Ukranians use their weapons to wipe out a whole bunch of russian soldiers, the russians use it to direct their artillery. The russian soldiers are bait. I think Ukraine very much needs weapons that can reach back and destroy russian supply lines. Russians would be far less effective if they are starving, freezing, isolated, and out of ammo.
I also suspect russian leadership has figured out that if they give a generic order of "advance", that order can be carried out repeatedly even if lines of communications are cut. One of the Ukrainian soldiers somewhere said the attackers seem to fear the people behind them more than they fear the Ukrainian guns.

Divided up a bit for the more knowledgeable to take whacks at if so inclined.

This should put the image of the girl in the rubble in better perspective.

I’d like to buy billboards all over Switzerland and put this on them, thank them on behalf of Olaf Scholz for their neutrality.

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Gonzalo Lira still thinks they aren't targeting civilians.

Eta: Or, I should say, he still SAYS that.

Ukraine needs to force conditions where meat isn’t as useful. It’s not easy, because offensives are where that advantage can be negated somewhat. It’s just a rough season for successful offensive actions that don’t involve slaughter of attackers.

The low risk/high reward for Ukraine now is to hold, maybe lose a bit, continue working rear areas, while building and training a superior offensive capability for good weather.

Russia will try to do the same, but any heavy force concentrations will be whacked quickly. Looking at the map a spring offensive north or south of bakhmut puts the entire Russian “success” of the last half year there under immediate threat.

Shit, she's halfway up that building.

Russia deserves to be wiped off the face of this earth for this. But mUh NaZi’s

They got the strict laws they wanted now they want to shit on those laws while they will call those who will give in to their new demans lawless when the war is over.


Fuck the left.

Human garden hose attacks.

Waves are wide across the front but thin front to back.  The objective of a human wave attack is to overwhelm the defenses in the short term. More bodies rapidly approaching than defenders have loaded magazines and open crates of mortars to deal with in that moment. I have no doubt the leadership of the orcs would like to use more traditional human wave attacks but that takes a high level of fanaticism on the part of the individual soldiers.  The conscripts being pushed to the front lack that fanaticism.

These human garden hose attacks the Russians are using are seeking the same objective but on a longer time scale. Much narrower but longer strings of bodies trickled forward with the thought of long term overcoming the defenders logistical chain to deliver resupply to the front.

Like filling a hot tub with a garden hose.  It might take all week but eventually it gets full.  It's still a bodies versus bullets strategy the orcs are using but because they have to lie to their conscripts that it's just a recon/probing attack, the human garden hose is the only version they can use.

Ukrainian defenders wrote "For Dnipro" on munition pic.twitter.com/Jb80IdTbsa

Giorgi Revishvili  (@revishvilig) January 14, 2023

I don't know what kind of drone that is, but it is only flying at ~30 meters or less. The zoom is amazing.

That fucking chicken shed had it coming. Nazi chickens! Every last one of them needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. We can't rest until every last Nazi chicken is destroyed.

God damned orcs and god damn isolationist cowards.


You can't be neutral on a moving train.

Human wave attacks were used in both the Korean and Vietnam wars, and some were successful.  

Side note: the VC essentially destroyed itself due to the waves it threw against the US during the Tet offensive- and though it was a tactical failure, it essentially led to that dirt bag Walter Kronkite declaring that the war was "unwinnable" for us.  


Russia IS using human wave attacks against Ukraine, though they are- thankfully- gaining minimal tactical gains and probably, ultimately, zero strategic gains (unlike Vietnam).

God that fucking sucks. I can't imagine being a first responder and pulling people out of rubble, when a fresh missile could come screaming in at any moment.

I'd be interested in exactly which types of aircraft were shot down, but it could be that they are not disclosing specifics due to OPSEC.

Something I have been not understanding concerning the refugees. Why haven't these people been put into or offered the chance to manufacture weapons? If I had any authority in the matter I'd be training Ukrainian women, children and the elderly to have a part this fight by producing drones, mortars, rockets and artillery shells. A deal such as 1 out of every 5 shells produced goes twords replenishing NATO stocks seems like a great deal. Also it would give them income and education.
I'm sure the logistics are complex and difficult, but where there's a will there's a way. It would be amazing when Ukrainians go back home after this war and everyone can say "I helped fuck Russias ass bloody to save my country".