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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:29:09 AM EDT
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Prigozhin sends a five page letter to Shoigu about border security.
Shoigu does not read it.

On May 26, another attempt was made to send a letter to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation S.K. Shoigu with proposals to ensure the security of the border areas, but since the letter was not accepted once again, we publish it on the press service.

https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3498
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:29:15 AM EDT
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Eyes up!
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:31:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

I want so see a breakdown of the number of Iskander-M that were launched.  This would be a Patriot shootdown again.
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UA telegram-

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We have our own iron dome 😉

https://t.me/ragnarockkyiv/51634



ETA-all they did today was cause traffic problems

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:33:32 AM EDT
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the Russians launched the second strike this morning hoping to destroy a Patriot battery.

Below is a video of Ukrainian SAM's over Kyiv intercepting incoming Russian missiles this morning.  

FYI: Russian propagandists are foaming at the mouth to get images of a Patriot system being destroyed for which I do not believe there are any. So, instead, even without any evidence, they are informing their followers that any claims that Ukraine shot down all of the missiles must be, logically, a lie because "we are Ruzzia."
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:38:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:38:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

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On the “we are Russia” front…



https://ria.ru/20230529/spetsoperatsiya-1874830628.html

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:39:50 AM EDT
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I was arguing with some Ruski simps on Twitter. They were claiming the patriots were destroyed. I asked where the pictures were. They blamed Zlensky’s media blackout and oppressive regime. I asked where the satellite pictures or airborne BDA pics were. Asked why russia can’t fly a plane or a sat over Kiev to assess their missile’s effective damage. Crickets…
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:39:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:40:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

On the “we are Russia” front…

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_3110-2833027.jpg

https://ria.ru/20230529/spetsoperatsiya-1874830628.html

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


On the “we are Russia” front…

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_3110-2833027.jpg

https://ria.ru/20230529/spetsoperatsiya-1874830628.html




lol, they "intercepted" them alright. With their faces.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:41:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:42:42 AM EDT
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Pro-Ukrainian source:

On the night of May 29, the Russian army struck a military facility in the Khmelnytskyi region, disabling 5 aircraft.

https://t.me/killpukin/15203

Beat-

TG gossip says Su-24s
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:43:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:45:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:48:20 AM EDT
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a unique change in Russia's tactics. FYI: Russia is known to have positioned Iskander missile systems in the Gomel and other areas of #Belarus. If they were launched from Belarus, that will be big news.

UkrAF spokesperson Yuriy Ignat reported that #Kyiv was attacked from the north this morning with Iskander-M ballistic missiles as well as Kinzhal "Dagger" hypersonic missiles. He did not report from where the Iskander-M's were launched from but it is a unique change in Russia's tactics. FYI: Russia is known to have positioned Iskander missile systems in the Gomel and other areas of #Belarus. If they were launched from Belarus, that will be big news.

Shown below is an Iskander-M complex for reference and part of a spent Patriot SAM that landed in a street in Kyiv after presumably hitting its target.

Kiev was attacked by Iskander or Kinzhal ballistic missiles

▪️This was stated by Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs A. Gerashchenko.
▪️Kyiv could have been attacked by Iskander, this is indicated by the fact that the missiles flew along a ballistic trajectory, said Yu. Ignat, speaker of the Ukrainian Air Force.
▪️They are different modifications. "Iskander-M" is a ballistic missile, and there is "Iskander-K" - a cruise missile. What type of weapons was used, we will give later," Ignat said.
▪️He added that the blow was delivered from the north.
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:49:20 AM EDT
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Neat.

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:50:29 AM EDT
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Again the reason I did not trust or believe the information in those leaks was real.





Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:54:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:55:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:57:28 AM EDT
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Russian helicopters disappearing now.



https://twitter.com/TreasChest/status/1663167394578137089
In the Bryansk region of the Russian Federation, in the city of Klintsy, a helicopter fell - Mash.

Before falling, he circled over the city for a long time, after that he collapsed on a house in the private sector.

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I wonder if it is an ELINT or ECM Mi-8 eating a missile.

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 8:59:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I disagree that Belarusian involvement would necessarily bring Poland in.
There have been reports that the Belarusian Army has already handed over most of its artillery ammo.  What they can supply is more meat.  The Belarusian Army can be parted out and sent in as replacements and it would be somewhat difficult to tell for a while.
This is why they're making a big deal about an independent Belarusian nuke deterrent force - so they can push Belarusian manpower into Ukraine and defend the Polish border with nukes.  This may work until Putin's new puppet starts mobilizing civilians, at which point we may see mass protests and mass repression.
Lukashenko fucked up, waited too long and got too greedy, thinking he could make a play for all the marbles.  His best play was turning coat to NATO while he had value.
Putin doesn't give a fuck right now.  He's desperate and will run any risk short of direct attacks on NATO. If Poland intervenes it gives Putin what he wants, an attack by NATO against him that allows him to escalate to nukes "defensively".  Poland probably will not go there alone.
NATO needs to be thinking through these scenarios and have responses ready.  For example, if Putin makes a play for Belarusian manpower, the cabinets with ATACMS and DPICM need to be opened immediately and start flowing freely.  There's a counter that can keep Poland on the sidelines.
The Belarusians need to take action and suffer the consequences, or be dragged down with Russia.
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Belarus is not Russia. If Putin forcibly annexes Belarus, that is a signal that he is continuing with his war effort. It would no longer be a conflict in Ukraine but a major war involving several countries. NATO would correctly assess that WW3 is already ongoing and react by matching the escalation. They will not just sit around while Russia rebuilds the Western flank of the USSR. Do you really think Putin is just going to take Belarus and stop right there? That is a strong gamble.

A nuclear attack by Russia to defend Belarus is very unlikely, since again Belarus is not Russia. We didn't nuke Russia either when it attacked Ukraine. If Poland does nothing then they essentially give a signal that they agree that Belarus belongs to Russia, just like during the USSR. Weakness in the face of aggression is the worst alternative. Like you say, Russia could then take all the manpower of Belarus and use its territory to attack Poland and the Baltics from multiple angles. They would use their new found stronger position to threaten Poland and gain an advantage if war against the West really is their ultimate goal.

Like Putin, Poland also does not give a fuck. They will declare a demilitarized zone around their border and a no-fly zone over Belarus and likely Ukraine. Polish F-35s will rule the skies immediately. They are the largest force in Europe with enough HIMARS to stop any invasion. I also believe that they would not go at it alone, NATO would back them to create a defensive buffer. There is literally nothing Putin could do to stop it short of nuking Poland, which would be his own death sentence.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:00:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:01:42 AM EDT
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One person died, eight were injured as a result of a Russian air strike on Toretsk, Donetsk region
The Russian military probably dropped two FAB-250 bombs.
The first aerial bomb was dropped on a gas station in Toretsk, Donetsk region. As a result, a 28-year-old worker died. Eight people were injured of varying degrees of severity.
The second bomb fell on the administration building. The explosion injured a local resident. The premises of a bank, an educational institution and road transport were damaged.

https://t.me/newspn/57166




Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:04:21 AM EDT
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These are actually PAC-3 interceptions over Kiev.  You can see the short sash and puffy contrails from the thrust vectoring of the missile to steer itself into the incoming missile just before the impact.




Compare with test footage, about 30 seconds in:

Boeing PAC-3 missile interceptor


Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:11:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:


I agree with your principle but I can't make sense of the lack of action. If Ukraine doesn't have an advantage now it's not going to have one later.

The Russians aren't playing meat grinder in Bakhmut anymore so they will be solidifying their defenses and after a few experiences in combat those green mobiks will be turning into seasoned troops, meanwhile Russia has ramped up its industrial production and will be restocking artillery and armor

I don't know that time is on Ukraine's side.

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Basing the war on Bakhmut is like focusing on Bloomington Indiana in a state the size of Texas. What industrial production has russia ramped up? How is it going to impede the upcoming offensive?
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:15:48 AM EDT
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💣 Details about the tower near Mariupol appeared

As adviser to the mayor of the city Petr Andryushchenko reports, many Russians have become "good", in particular:

👉 100 of them will no longer fight. Never.
👉 More than 400 with various injuries were hospitalized in hospital No. 2.
👉 Rashist electronic warfare station burned down at work (visual confirmation).

So, according to him, they flew to the former boarding house "Yalta", where the invaders equipped the barracks. According to the Mariupol resistance, 4 buses with (at that time) manpower were brought there yesterday.

https://t.me/uniannet/99664

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:20:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
I hadn’t heard that a surveillance drone was shot down. Excellent!!

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I just don't understand how they keep wasting their cruise missiles knowing that Ukraine right now has around a 90% success rate of defending against such ...
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:21:42 AM EDT
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The stormer I was in had a much older display than that
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:22:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ILfreedom:
Right now I believe Zelensky is kissing the ass of anyone who can send weapons to Ukraine. Whether he embraces the Euro type globalism post war is doubtful in my mind. The Ukrainian people aren't near as left as Macron might think. The Poles definitely are not. Ukraine should join Nato if given the chance, but keep the EU at arms distance.
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Ukraine will align with the the V4 first including the Baltics ...

I've said this many times in the last 10 years ... the V4 (hoping Hungary comes around) and other former Soviet states will form better relationships since Crimea '14 ...

Poland at this point is going full up armament of their country ... even beyond Germany and France ...
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:23:08 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxSdFQRWAAEJN4t?format=jpg&name=medium


These are actually PAC-3 interceptions over Kiev.  You can see the short sash and puffy contrails from the thrust vectoring of the missile to steer itself into the incoming missile just before the impact.




Compare with test footage, about 30 seconds in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3JrbKCHbwI

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Ah. That helped me understand some images I was seeing but hadn’t bothered to translate.


Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:23:14 AM EDT
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Russian Navy SIGINT Ship Was Attacked. But Who is Mr. Ivan Khurs?
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:24:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:26:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
I wonder if Ukraine and Russia are negotiating an end to the war. I am trying to make sense of how much hype there has been around the counter offensive that never comes.

It makes no sense to advertise a counter offensive, you would want to maintain some element of surprise, and it should have started by now.

Unless the hyped counter offensive is just meant to strengthen Ukraine's bargaining position by convincing the Russians they have a lot to lose if they don't make a deal.
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It won't stop raining this year.  They can't start and then get bogged down in mud.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:28:18 AM EDT
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Footage of the destruction of an enemy target by Ukrainian air defense has appeared.

“Video combative & successful work of air defense soldiers, destruction of an enemy air target. Glory to Ukraine & its soldiers,” said 🇺🇦 military servicemen, Colonel of the AFU Anatoly Shtefan.

https://twitter.com/mb85555744/status/1663148641928765440
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:28:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:
I wonder if Ukraine and Russia are negotiating an end to the war. I am trying to make sense of how much hype there has been around the counter offensive that never comes.

It makes no sense to advertise a counter offensive, you would want to maintain some element of surprise, and it should have started by now.

Unless the hyped counter offensive is just meant to strengthen Ukraine's bargaining position by convincing the Russians they have a lot to lose if they don't make a deal.
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and how much do you know about war planning/psyops/deflection...

You have to remember that advertising publicly a counter-offensive also helps to put efforts on armament coming in ...

The public incursions into Russia are a way to also get the Russian people to go hmmm...what is going on ... it makes Putin (if he is smart) re-think logistics ..

Another point is getting an established air defense network up and ready ... which is happening and most crucial effort to SAVE civilian lives because the Ruskies just target whatever ... for the inevitable supply of western jets and for a potential no-fly zone should one be established ...
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:30:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Ukrainian people are very orthodox and won’t tolerate the gayness.

He’s doing what he can to get support and that’s fine. He’s made zero promises.
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I've suggested (thousands of pages ago) that Ukraine is like America in the 60's culturally (without the civil rights and anti-war aspect). In that they are generally Christian, conservative, family oriented, and somewhat nationalistic. They have the added benefit of having come through the communist era (unlike the USA yet) and know the bullshit and suffering it involves and probably wont be eager to experiment with socialism anytime soon (unlike America). The Ukrainian people are too smart and pragmatic to go backwards after all this. But who knows what happens after the war and when Zelensky is replaced with a post-war president.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:40:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Russia has been drawing conscripts mostly from the outlying provinces, avoiding as much  as possible from Moscow and St Petersburg which has the largest share of population.  They can’t mobilize forever. That is one of their false bravado narratives, Stronk!

Their latest online mobilization has fallen far short of the target 400K. If they want more conscripts they will HAVE TO pull much more from those pampered urban areas. Russians are very Moscow centric. They don’t give a shit about what happens to the provinces. Everything is geared towards providing and protecting Moscow. If Putin starts sending 100-200K from Moscow area there will be outrage when the boys go missing, get raped, or are killed in frontal assaults or filthy trenches.

No Russia has a very limited supply of conscripts before the power base gets bled as well. Ukraine has a much deeper conscript pool. They are fighting for their existence. Plus they are doing a much better job of evacuating wounded and fast medical treatment. Ukraine probably only needs half as many as the Russians do every month to replenish the lines.
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People have argued that Russia, with a population of 140 million has a huge advantage over Ukraine's 40+mil. But finding MOTIVATED AND TRAINABLE soldiers is a whole other matter. Probably Russia's population has maybe 0.5% of the population that qualify and most of them have already been mobilized and expended. At this point, I think finding motivated patriots willing to die in Ukraine are hard to find in Russia and press-ganged and abused mobiks who just want to survive will not cut it. Meanwhile in Ukraine, probably 20% of the population are motivated and trainable (I'm just pulling these numbers out of my ass but hopefully you get my point).

And then we have the issue of equipment...
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:40:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

This is an interesting point that I wonder about and I'm not sure I agree. But admittedly I know very little about Z's pre-war platforms, other than he was anti-corruption and a moderate on Russia at least in terms of trading some territory for peace before the invasion.

Zelensky is probably not a leftist like our Amerikan leftists (who hates America as founded and actively attempting to destroy it for some big globalist revolution). He is most likely a nationalist (as a direct result of Russian aggression) who wants ties to the West and the EU. He may be much more similar to Trump ideologically and politically than Clinton or Obama (who ideologically and politically resemble Schroder or Merkel).
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:


I don't like Zelensky either as he appears to be a left leaning globalist but I really can't see how you can criticize Zelensky as a dictator but take Russia's side. If Zelensky is a dictator then what is Putin ?

For the record I don't like Zelensky but I wouldn't say he is a dictator. Efforts to suppress Russian proganda during the war make sense.

This is an interesting point that I wonder about and I'm not sure I agree. But admittedly I know very little about Z's pre-war platforms, other than he was anti-corruption and a moderate on Russia at least in terms of trading some territory for peace before the invasion.

Zelensky is probably not a leftist like our Amerikan leftists (who hates America as founded and actively attempting to destroy it for some big globalist revolution). He is most likely a nationalist (as a direct result of Russian aggression) who wants ties to the West and the EU. He may be much more similar to Trump ideologically and politically than Clinton or Obama (who ideologically and politically resemble Schroder or Merkel).


He is a centrist ...
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:52:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Poland makes it permanent. I don't know if they will still have access to a port through Lithuania or Latvia but Poland cuts off their land access and several ports.

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That's not targeted sanctions.

It's essentially a full out embargo by Poland


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That's some funny shit

Link Posted: 5/29/2023 9:59:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

People have argued that Russia, with a population of 140 million has a huge advantage over Ukraine's 40+mil. But finding MOTIVATED AND TRAINABLE soldiers is a whole other matter. Probably Russia's population has maybe 0.5% of the population that qualify and most of them have already been mobilized and expended. At this point, I think finding motivated patriots willing to die in Ukraine are hard to find in Russia and press-ganged and abused mobiks who just want to survive will not cut it. Meanwhile in Ukraine, probably 20% of the population are motivated and trainable (I'm just pulling these numbers out of my ass but hopefully you get my point).

And then we have the issue of equipment...
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It seems like russia has always had the tactic of telling their own soldiers they definitely are going to die if they don't move forward and try to kill the enemy. More and more and more cannon fodder until they win. It doesn't matter if they are trained. Cannon fodder being managed by corrupt nationalists/communists. They just destroy everything in front of them until they can flood the enemy with enough cannon fodder to win.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 10:04:37 AM EDT
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The Ministry of Defense has begun the development of amendments to the Regulation on military service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine by citizens of Ukraine

The norms of service in peacetime and in a special period will be clearly demarcated and regulated.
Military personnel will be appointed to positions with staff-position categories that correspond to their actual military ranks;
The minimum and maximum terms of service and stay in a military rank will be established;
Appointment to higher positions will be based on the rating principle;
The rotation of military personnel in relevant positions will be introduced in order to gain the necessary experience;

At the heart of the changes are NATO's personnel management standards.

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/98521


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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

People have argued that Russia, with a population of 140 million has a huge advantage over Ukraine's 40+mil. But finding MOTIVATED AND TRAINABLE soldiers is a whole other matter. Probably Russia's population has maybe 0.5% of the population that qualify and most of them have already been mobilized and expended. At this point, I think finding motivated patriots willing to die in Ukraine are hard to find in Russia and press-ganged and abused mobiks who just want to survive will not cut it. Meanwhile in Ukraine, probably 20% of the population are motivated and trainable (I'm just pulling these numbers out of my ass but hopefully you get my point).

And then we have the issue of equipment...
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Russia is running out of time, demographics are working against them. Plus, all their young smart tech people are getting out if they can. Russia can keep on burning through all the outlying provinces young people. But there are rumblings out there from the mothers and wives that they are taking the brunt of the punishment of Putin’s War. And Putin’s government is doing everything to protect the middle class that lives around Moscow and St. Pete. Putin is waiting and hoping Trump will win the election so he can manipulate him into cutting off help to Ukraine and long term, Europe and NATO.
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I just don't understand how they keep wasting their cruise missiles knowing that Ukraine right now has around a 90% success rate of defending against such ...
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It seems like the russians always prioritize their pride and image. If Ukraine hits them with storm shadows, they absolutely must say they have punished Ukraine for it. It makes them predictable. There isn't anything worse for them than having the mighty russian empire punched in the nose. How dare the little region of Ukraine get out of line against the empire.
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


and how much do you know about war planning/psyops/deflection...

You have to remember that advertising publicly a counter-offensive also helps to put efforts on armament coming in ...

The public incursions into Russia are a way to also get the Russian people to go hmmm...what is going on ... it makes Putin (if he is smart) re-think logistics ..

Another point is getting an established air defense network up and ready ... which is happening and most crucial effort to SAVE civilian lives because the Ruskies just target whatever ... for the inevitable supply of western jets and for a potential no-fly zone should one be established ...
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Also I think misdirection/sleight of hand announcements are more effective against a huge central planning, top down command. It can't pivot very fast so if your probes or feints are working, keep doing it. When you see the slow, lumbering machine finally start to pivot then you change quicker than they can adapt
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Current situation in the Bakhmut direction, from the Ministry of Education and Culture

The intensity of the enemy's offensive actions has significantly decreased because he is replacing troops from Wagner units with regular units and is trying to stabilize the defense in this direction. Our troops significantly complicate this process for the enemy by their actions.
At the same time, the intensity of enemy artillery shelling did not decrease.
Bakhmut. The Wagnerites withdraw their units, and the regular army takes their place.
Our troops control the outskirts of Bakhmut in the southwestern part in the "Airplane" area.
Enemy units are also being replaced in the north of the Bakhmut suburb.
To the south of Bakhmut, the enemy is trying to strengthen and increase army units.
As of yesterday and this morning, the advance on the flanks is not being carried out in connection with the performance of other tasks.

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/98493



‼️The head of the PMC "Wagner" Prigozhin said that the champagne factory in Bakhmut must be returned to the Ukrainian owners, or a solution should be found on how to hand over the goods or equipment.

"Private property is inviolable," Prigozhin assured, and also added:
"The Artemiv factory of champagne wines is under the control of PVK "Wagner". All products, everything was recorded on video, and everything was counted, including containers of champagne that have not yet been poured.
Every enterprise has owners. And no war between states, if the invading state wants to preserve its person, can be with the seizure of someone's private property. State property in the framework of a conflict between states can be alienated, while private property is inviolable. It is necessary to find a solution, how to settle the issue of private property.
In the near future, we will transfer the plant to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation."

Bakhmut. Life | Chat | Write to us

https://t.me/bakhmut_life/26886





Link Posted: 5/29/2023 10:10:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:


I agree with your principle but I can't make sense of the lack of action. If Ukraine doesn't have an advantage now it's not going to have one later.

The Russians aren't playing meat grinder in Bakhmut anymore so they will be solidifying their defenses and after a few experiences in combat those green mobiks will be turning into seasoned troops, meanwhile Russia has ramped up its industrial production and will be restocking artillery and armor

I don't know that time is on Ukraine's side.

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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

No way. Ukraine had no interest in land giveaway negotiations. Only Russia.

The negotiations start when Russia has left Ukraine.

They have to advertise an offensive because they need western support for the buildup and it will be hard to deny completely. How and where it unfolds is the unknown. It seems they are going to continue shaping and degrading logistics missions until Russia is forced to over react. And then strike when they are out of position.

I’m still holding to my June 17 prediction. 😀


I agree with your principle but I can't make sense of the lack of action. If Ukraine doesn't have an advantage now it's not going to have one later.

The Russians aren't playing meat grinder in Bakhmut anymore so they will be solidifying their defenses and after a few experiences in combat those green mobiks will be turning into seasoned troops, meanwhile Russia has ramped up its industrial production and will be restocking artillery and armor

I don't know that time is on Ukraine's side.


They are still eliminating 400 Russians, and multiple systems, every single day.    That’s a lot of attrition.     Draftees don’t get turned into effective troops by proximity of the process of osmosis.    It just doesn’t work that way.  Often, the Opposite is true.
Russians are terrible at logistics, and that’s only going to get worse.  
War is hard, for both sides.    You don’t get to randomly decide where and when to do the big breakthrough.   The enemy always gets a vote.
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That's not targeted sanctions.

It's essentially a full out embargo by Poland


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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Poland makes it permanent. I don't know if they will still have access to a port through Lithuania or Latvia but Poland cuts off their land access and several ports.

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That's not targeted sanctions.

It's essentially a full out embargo by Poland



No, it is a jobs program. It is aimed to protect the jobs of Polish truck drivers in the EU. Ukrainian truckers have no right to earn a wage in the EU. They probably want Ukraine/Russia to unload the cargo and pay them to deliver the goods to their destination instead.
Link Posted: 5/29/2023 10:23:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/29/2023 10:26:32 AM EDT
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Getting it all together. Picked up some noise canceling slim ear muffs that fit under a MICH Hemet or can be used with a FAST high cut, pants, multi-tool and a little pouch for it, and bumpers for the combat shirt elbows. I've got some knee inserts coming in the mail. Most of the gear is from M-Tac that also has a store in town. Probably the best stuff made in Ukraine. Also got a rain cover for the backpack last week. Thanks to everyone that has helped me out.

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I really like the ear muffs. There's a microphone in each muff that actually helps me to hear better, and closes when the noise level increases.

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