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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 6:03:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

As a contrary anecdote, there were reports that Ukraine had received a quantity of DPICM from Turkey a couple of months ago, and that was what a Ukrainian source credited with that two or three week run of circa 1000 KIA per day.
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Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By CharlieR:
Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

Yes, absolutely. I'm of the opinion that DPICM would be far more of a Wunderwaffen than pretty much anything else we could send them. They would certainly impact the war more than 31 Abrams or even 100 Bradleys. They would be extremely useful for stopping Russian assaults dead in their tracks, suppressing objectives while Ukrainian armor advances, etc. Unfortunately, I doubt they're going to get them, almost exclusively due to political reasons. The Biden Administration likely doesn't want to send them due to UXO concerns, and if they did send them, I have no doubt that many on the right would jump at the opportunity to label Biden a baby killer.


I really disagree.

The dud rate aside, DPICM is a cluster of grenades that cover a wide area.  
Its excellent if you have a soft target, like a firing battery of artillery, and you want to drop a lot of grenades on them in one blast. Or alot of troops in the open.  But thats the least of the Ukrainian's concerns.
Its also excellent if you have an airplane going very fast and very low and see a large convoy of trucks or soft targets.  Pickle off one canister and it covers a lot of area.  But that's not really the situation the Ukrainians are in.




I would assume that Russian artillery isn't responsive and the Ukrainians will stay buttoned up and mounted. The primary targets will be C2, ATGMs, and armor.  The Ukrainaisn want to protect their queen, the tanks, and the biggest threats arent the sorts of things DPICM is good at killing.  Those threats are point targets that will be dug in, and need a smart munition and a lot of HE on a single point, not a scattering of grenade-like munitions.


As a contrary anecdote, there were reports that Ukraine had received a quantity of DPICM from Turkey a couple of months ago, and that was what a Ukrainian source credited with that two or three week run of circa 1000 KIA per day.


...and I see you completely missed my point.

Three months ago, if a Russian Wagner rifle company is crossing open ground near Bakhmut, a large salvo of hand grenades in a wide area will work great.  So will 155 prox, but no matter.
What they need now is to destroy point targets with some cover.
What worked then under that situation, fast moving troops in the open,  is not what you need next month or whenever for that situation. They are totally diffferent.
What they need for the offensive is very well coordinated ISR, drones providing precision fire on hard targets that are armored or dug in.



Lethal radius of one 155mm shell,  frag raidus 50 meters.... 1/2 pi R^2=  3750 square meters
One DPICM shell, frag radius of a bomblet, 10 meters.   1/2 pi R^2=150 meters.    150x88 bomblets=13000 meters.
Its an area weapon for soft targets in the open.
That was then, this is now.

Arguably, counterbattery work. That's it.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 6:52:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 7:21:11 AM EDT
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Ukrainians aren’t putting up with corruption. I wish the US was like this.

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Servant of the People MP relaxes abroad during war and drives new US$190,000 car

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/31/7404582/


Torokhtii's family have managed to replace their car three times since the start of the full-scale Russian invasion. All the cars were purchased in the name of Torokhtii's wife, Alina Levchenko. The daughter of football coach Vitalii Levchenko, she has been an assistant to MP Serhii Kaplin and an adviser to former Infrastructure Minister Volodymyr Omelian.

In July 2022, Alina Levchenko sold her Range Rover Sport for about US$76,000, and in the same month, she became the owner of a 2020 Mercedes-Benz G400. These SUVs cost at least US$158,800 on the used-car market.

In December 2022, Levchenko replaced her Mercedes with a new Range Rover. According to Torokhtii, the couple pre-ordered the car in 2021, and the SUV was delivered late because of the full-scale war. Cars similar to Levchenko's Range Rover currently sell for US$185,000.

In March 2023, the Range Rover was "exchanged" for a 2022 Mercedes-Benz EQS 580 electric car. Judging by the car's two-tone colour, this is a special edition of the EQS 580 – Edition One. A new one can be found on sale for US$197,851, and in March, the EQS 580 Edition One was sold for US$185,000. The journalists have evidence of Torokhtii himself using Levchenko’s car.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 7:27:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

They simply wouldn’t believe it.  People have a boundless capacity to disbelieve what they don’t agree with.
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Unfortunately too true.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 7:55:13 AM EDT
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Reddit wants me to download their app to view. Is there any way to watch without downloading their app?
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You should.. the videos in there are great!
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:18:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
1420 video asking what people think about the attacks on Belgorod. LOL at people saying "nyet, I wouldn't go defend Belgorod."  I live in Moscow, I won't be affected here, fuck Belgorod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE_iuPLYDBY
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The Moscovites will soon know and they will have to fight ... so brave of them ... and you see ... that is why Russia will FAIL
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:20:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:



She could have ran to Hungary or anywhere else just like that stupid American that fled to BelaOrckiland lite.
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Yeah. Defecting to Russia has a very passive aggressive "cry for help" feel to it. Anyone really upset goes to North Korea.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:22:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Israel randomly flys into and bombs Iranian targets. Why not the next time some Iranian IL76 are loading up shaheeds they get eaten alive by F35s on the runway? I think the last shipments were Iranian IL76 and not Russian.
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I think Israel is happy that those Shitheads are leaving their AO instead of threatening them.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:26:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Funnily enough Israel is about to start a major military exercise largely focused on war with Iran along with several other simultaneous fronts.  
The Jews and the Taliban tag teaming on Iran?!  Fits in perfectly with the crazy things in the past three years.

And then the are the Iranian women fed up with the mullahs!!!


I’ve worked with several Iranians and they are nothing like the Arabs. They value academic learning, especially medicine, engineering, teaching, and the sciences. And they enjoy doing good productive work. They value kids and their upbringing. Without the theocracy they can be incredibly smart and family oriented. I hope they can kick the ayatollah and mullah to the curb soon.

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Taliban really think they can put a fight up to the Iranians...like really...
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:33:09 AM EDT
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Calendar guy showcasing a damage assessment from a HIMARS strike.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1663829560989761537

Like OP on Telegram I thought this was a camo net...
The results of 100s of 1000s of tungsten bb's
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:37:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:40:04 AM EDT
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As time goes on, more Ukrainian units are trained up and new equipment pours into the country.


Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:40:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416:


This is why I think there must be backroom negotiations happening. The only way this rhetoric has any value to Ukraine is if it's pressuring Russia to make a deal
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Nah.

Ukraine is about to have their turn.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:42:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


Taliban really think they can put a fight up to the Iranians...like really...
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Funnily enough Israel is about to start a major military exercise largely focused on war with Iran along with several other simultaneous fronts.  
The Jews and the Taliban tag teaming on Iran?!  Fits in perfectly with the crazy things in the past three years.

And then the are the Iranian women fed up with the mullahs!!!


I’ve worked with several Iranians and they are nothing like the Arabs. They value academic learning, especially medicine, engineering, teaching, and the sciences. And they enjoy doing good productive work. They value kids and their upbringing. Without the theocracy they can be incredibly smart and family oriented. I hope they can kick the ayatollah and mullah to the curb soon.

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Taliban really think they can put a fight up to the Iranians...like really...

They have never lost a war yet.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:45:07 AM EDT
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https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-biden-atacms-missile-1803298


Retired Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, the former commanding general of United States Army Europe, is among the military figures who have repeatedly called for Washington to provide Kyiv with all the weapons it needs, in particular long-range systems to enable it to retake Crimea which Moscow seized in 2014.

He told Newsweek on Tuesday that he believed the Biden administration will "eventually" provide ATACMS to Ukraine."It's just maddening and needlessly prolongs this war when we are so slow and incremental," he said.
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Hodges said that the Biden administration showed a "continued reluctance" to provide long-range precision weapons which was "the result of its reluctance or inability to clearly define the strategic outcome it seeks and its unwillingness to say it wants Ukraine to win."

"This has led to slow, incremental decision-making that only helps the Russians because the Kremlin knows that the (Biden) administration will continue to self-deter out of concern over possible Russian nuclear escalation."

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I am holding out on the hope that some of this stuff is quietly being supplied, and when the offensive starts:


Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:49:17 AM EDT
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Wow
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxaebvgXwAMynhR?format=png&name=900x900


Wow


Why is anyone outside of the Ukrainian high command being told anything about these plans? OPSEC is vital to Ukraine's success.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:50:37 AM EDT
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Russia claiming to have destroyed the last ship in the Ukrainian Navy, the Yuri Olefirenko.

They may have, but the evidence provided (by the MoD!) is so dumb that I’m even more embarrassed for them than usual.

Example from a prolific pro-Russian account on Twitter-

“Spriter” posts thermal video that shows outgoing fire from a ship, titled


Nothing happens. Maybe that’s the launch that destroyed it.
Nope, there’s this tweet. “Moment of the defeat”




Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:50:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:54:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Russia claiming to have destroyed the last ship in the Ukrainian Navy, the Yuri Olefirenko.

They may have, but the evidence provided (by the MoD!) is so dumb that I’m even more embarrassed for them than usual.

Example from a prolific pro-Russian account on Twitter-

“Spriter” posts thermal video that shows outgoing fire from a ship, titled


Nothing happens. Maybe that’s the launch that destroyed it.
Nope, there’s this tweet. “Moment of the defeat”


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxdErrbXwAE1lg2?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxdEr3eWYAEK6tY?format=jpg&name=large
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lol.

Video in tweet.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:55:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


Taliban really think they can put a fight up to the Iranians...like really...
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I think all the Taliban knows is US ROE and political weakness/corruption. I doubt the IRGC will be obsessed with building schools and lgbtqp rights for infants nor will they send in 30 NCIS agents after some EPW stubs his toe.

It would be fun to watch.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 8:57:30 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure this is a PAC-3 part, it was later photographed in the Kiev McDonald's parking lot.

Again, it is dangerous when any air defense is working, especially multiple and large systems.




Link Posted: 5/31/2023 9:00:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 9:06:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 9:06:25 AM EDT
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The Ukrainian Armed Forces, using the Everstake-226 strike drone, hit the "Loaf" with the Russian military on the southern outskirts of Paraskovievka 48.647578, 37.989636 (geo by @KlyuchnikAlex)


Link Posted: 5/31/2023 9:50:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
I had the most deranged conversation with a Russian friend today.  Admittedly one always given to conspiracy theories; but the new theme being sold is the Ukrainians, and West generally, are satanists, complete with satanic temples in Ukraine, etc.  Western mercenaries are paying to hunt and kill Russians like safari animals and Sen. Graham's edited speech was featured prominently.  It was pretty
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Tell him it's all true and Ukraine is just one big canned hunt....

But putin is in on it because he keeps dropping russians off at the release site in front of the hunters! All they have to do is stay in russia away from the hunters.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:14:40 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:19:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:23:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:23:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Russia claiming to have destroyed the last ship in the Ukrainian Navy, the Yuri Olefirenko.

They may have, but the evidence provided (by the MoD!) is so dumb that I’m even more embarrassed for them than usual.

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I read it on some TG channel and quickly dismissed as total BS. According to the Russians, the ship was sunk while moored in Odessa.
The Odessa naval base is located close to the center of the city and is clearly visible from a street with multiple businesses and apartment buildings elevated about 30 meters above it. No info about the alleged ship sinking in UA media means it never happened, it's not something you can hide.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:28:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:43:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
I had the most deranged conversation with a Russian friend today.  Admittedly one always given to conspiracy theories; but the new theme being sold is the Ukrainians, and West generally, are satanists, complete with satanic temples in Ukraine, etc.  Western mercenaries are paying to hunt and kill Russians like safari animals and Sen. Graham's edited speech was featured prominently.  It was pretty
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For quite a while now the russian government and church have been working together to cultivate the belief that russians are the real christians, the russian military is fighting for god, and everybody else is against them. Religious zealotry trumps all other beliefs. It's a smart move.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 10:48:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Calendar guy showcasing a damage assessment from a HIMARS strike.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1663829560989761537



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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Calendar guy showcasing a damage assessment from a HIMARS strike.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1663829560989761537

Like OP on Telegram I thought this was a camo net...
The results of 100s of 1000s of tungsten bb's




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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:01:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:
Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package, how efficient of them.


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When this happened I thought there was a possibility it was a russian false flag to get sympathy for their new great patriotic war, that was instead going to blow up in their face as russians became fearful for their own safety while behind the "greatest air defense in the world."
The russian govt is frequently arrogant and out of touch about what people really want and what they consider important. The govt seems to kind of think that the population really does consider the motherland to be so important that it is easily worth dying for over any kind of threat. Lots of people don't see that way.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:08:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Psyops has Russia trying to react!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1130-2835238.jpg
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Hmmm. T-55.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:23:00 AM EDT
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The international intelligence community InformNapalm expresses its "strict gratitude" to the Russian ballerina-corrector Anastasia Volochkova, who lives at the address: Moscow region, village Nikolo-Uryupino, str. Akademika Zusyk, bldg. 15, who found an opportunity to convey the information that she heard the explosions of drones in the morning, and that there is a military unit nearby. Thanks to these data, we established that Volochkova's house is located 1.5 km from the Russian military unit 11105-2 (engineering battalion, archive), which is located at the address: Moscow Region, Inzhenerny-1.

Volochkova once again showed that she knows how to "sit on the splits".

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ETA- Not sure where this lands on the current “BOTD” spectrum.
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Today, The Moscow Times, citing its own anonymous sources in the Kremlin, reported that on May 30, when unidentified drones attacked military facilities in the Moscow region, Putin was in the Novo-Ogarevo residence and almost got hit. The newspaper claims that Putin's security service even woke him up earlier than usual and informed him about the drone strike.

If you compare this information with the geolocation of Volochkova's video, which was made by the international intelligence community InformNapalm, it turns out that some drones were shot down even closer than 10 km from Putin's residence. From Russian military unit 11105-2, over which the drones exploded, to Putin's residence is only 6 km. They didn't make it quite a bit...

We add a map for clarity.


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In anticipation of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder and purser of "PVK Wagner", drove very far from Bakhmut, near which he filmed his videos until recently. According to the Russian mass media, Prigozhin is currently "on a working visit" in the city of Vladivostok, which is 9,000 km from Bakhmut and the borders of Ukraine.

Obviously, Prigozhin believes in the Armed Forces and the success of the future Ukrainian counteroffensive.

@informnapalm


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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:26:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By m24shooter:

Hmmm. T-55.
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T-62M
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:28:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:31:06 AM EDT
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the Iranian Il-76 aircraft, which can carry military cargo, landed in Moscow today.

an Iranian Il-76TD cargo plane landed at the Nukovo airfield today at 9:24 a.m. It was flying from Tehran to Moscow. Already today, the departure of this plane back to Tehran is scheduled.
This is the second flight since May 29.
Before that, the Iranian plane landed in Moscow on May 21 and 24.
According to the Flightradar24 service


Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:35:14 AM EDT
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T-62M
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:
Originally Posted By m24shooter:

Hmmm. T-55.


T-62M


T-62M1

Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:37:52 AM EDT
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Well crap. Pack it up boys. It's game over. Turn off the lights on the way out. There's nothing we can do!
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 11:45:47 AM EDT
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Free camouflage for the Ukrainian pickup truck after a trip through the mud



https://t.me/supernova_plus/20673
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:02:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I think all the Taliban knows is US ROE and political weakness/corruption. I doubt the IRGC will be obsessed with building schools and lgbtqp rights for infants nor will they send in 30 NCIS agents after some EPW stubs his toe.

It would be fun to watch.
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


Taliban really think they can put a fight up to the Iranians...like really...

I think all the Taliban knows is US ROE and political weakness/corruption. I doubt the IRGC will be obsessed with building schools and lgbtqp rights for infants nor will they send in 30 NCIS agents after some EPW stubs his toe.

It would be fun to watch.


Iran doesn’t have the resources of either the US or the USSR. They would also be fighting a foe who knows all their tricks and is just as cruel and unscrupulous as they are, if not more so. They are also next door so the Taliban can get to them.

Time to get some popcorn.


Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:05:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:



Free camouflage for the Ukrainian pickup truck after a trip through the mud

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_3125-2835423.jpg

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any thicker and it starts being armor too!
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:10:04 PM EDT
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Can anyone explain to me ( like you would explain to a 5 year old, or maybe a Labrador retriever please) what Iran and the Taliban are fighting over? I do not understand what this conflict is about.  Anyone?
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:11:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K0UA:
Can anyone explain to me ( like you would explain to a 5 year old, or maybe a Labrador retriever please) what Iran and the Taliban are fighting over? I do not understand what this conflict is about.  Anyone?
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Taliban’s been damming a river, arguably in violation of an agreement.

Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:12:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K0UA:
Can anyone explain to me ( like you would explain to a 5 year old, or maybe a Labrador retriever please) what Iran and the Taliban are fighting over? I do not understand what this conflict is about.  Anyone?
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Iran is not radical enough.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:16:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Calendar guy showcasing a damage assessment from a HIMARS strike.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1663829560989761537



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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Calendar guy showcasing a damage assessment from a HIMARS strike.

https://twitter.com/Seveerity/status/1663829560989761537

Like OP on Telegram I thought this was a camo net...
The results of 100s of 1000s of tungsten bb's



Seal up the walls, install good AC and a nice sound system and it’s a sweet planetarium.
Link Posted: 5/31/2023 12:16:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By K0UA:
Can anyone explain to me ( like you would explain to a 5 year old, or maybe a Labrador retriever please) what Iran and the Taliban are fighting over? I do not understand what this conflict is about.  Anyone?
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Islam is right about... Muslims?
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