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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:42:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LesBaer45:



Should have shot first, as soon as the "barrier" squad showed themselves.

When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk.

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The first guy to make it to the barrier troops seems to be pleading for help, maybe warning them that the enemy has broken through, maybe asking for help for some wounded. Who knows. He gets shoved to the ground and shot along with his comrades.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:44:47 AM EST
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Drone footage, artillery on armor
https://twitter.com/ePowerLife2/status/1668221512321736706

"Dead District" is right.
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1668115075515686914

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:46:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
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Huge accomplishment!  Combined with the two rail bridges blown that cuts off all heavy shipments of fuel, food, ammo and weapons to Crimea except by ship.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:48:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

The correct action for Russian mobiks is to discard arms and run forward with arms in the air, waving a white cloth, until they find friendly (Ukrainian) positions. There is no hope for them in running to their rear.
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After killing their officers, unless they want to come too. Let the blocking troops assholes face the UA tanks.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:51:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By kncook:


If that’s the case then teengirl ticket sales would fund the next 2 billion package to them.
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There is a not-insignificant number of grown-ass men that would contribute too.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:52:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AgeOne:


Galicians?

Spanish Galicans? or is there a different Galicia?

either way dudes are bad ass. took some kind of hit to the arm, threw on a tourniquet and kept on going.
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Originally Posted By AgeOne:
Originally Posted By Prime:


Galicians?

Spanish Galicans? or is there a different Galicia?

either way dudes are bad ass. took some kind of hit to the arm, threw on a tourniquet and kept on going.



Mosin at 1:29 of that video
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:54:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 11:58:18 AM EST
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Morale is high.

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:03:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
If chuck is reporting it you know others already did the work  so here it is. Been going around the last couple of hours:
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The video is posted several times in the comments. I'm not saying the Soviets aren't capable of some bullshit, but I'm going to have to see the math on this one. I think the still pics has been improved by AI, but I'm not ready to call it fabricated.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:03:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GBTX01:



Gotta have that drip pan!
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I saw that too
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:07:32 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:08:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By georgiaboy:
The video is posted several times in the comments. I'm not saying the Soviets aren't capable of some bullshit, but I'm going to have to see the math on this one. I think the still pics has been improved by AI, but I'm not ready to call it fabricated.
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Same, but I'll also remind that there was a very convincing fake on video with a train shipment last year some time.

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:10:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:10:05 PM EST
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This has been a good video from a foreigner stuck in Kherson during the occupation.

 
Timothy Morales: Surviving Russian Occupation | Jake Broe Podcast (E016)

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:12:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:16:42 PM EST
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Mitsubishi sporting arms?
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:17:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
If chuck is reporting it you know others already did the work… so here it is. Been going around the last couple of hours:
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I'm kicking myself for not questioning this as AI. The placement of the third leopard is very strange.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:17:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
I saw that too
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@m35ben  There was discussion in one of the threads on twitter that the vehicle on the right away from the clearing vehicles has too many road wheels, that it is ai. Does it look correct to you?
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:17:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

The correct action for Russian mobiks is to discard arms and run forward with arms in the air, waving a white cloth, until they find friendly (Ukrainian) positions. There is no hope for them in running to their rear.
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That's going to be hard for the guy who's scared shitless and throws his stuff down and runs.     It's going to take a lot of mental capability that scared guy may not have.  And he's russian so he may never have had it or killed it w/ alcohol.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:18:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AgeOne:


Galicians?

Spanish Galicans? or is there a different Galicia?
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Galicia is a region currently owned partially by Poland and partially by Ukraine.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:19:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kncook:

Highly maneuverable & well protected APC/IFV with a big gun?
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Before it got officially named, the program was called "Mobile Protected Firepower".

Basically, IBCTs don't have any direct fire infantry support platforms, and the one that the Stryker units had, the MGS, was deemed unsatisfactory for a few reasons. SBCTs also had the ATGM variant for a while, which has its own set of limitations, and the Army also tried to increase the firepower available to SBCTs by fielding things like the Stryker Dragoon, which has a 30mm autocannon, but doesn't reduce the troop capacity because it doesn't have a traditional crewed turret basket.

All that is to say, they realized that IBCTs were deficient in direct-fire and operational mobility, and needed something to address that for the IBCT.

Example: a Brigade of 82nd or 101st has great strategic mobility, but then once they hit the ground they most often don't have anything faster or better protected than the Leather Personnel Carrier (boots) or maybe if you're lucky a HMMWV, and most available direct fire not any bigger than 50cal (not considering mortars, towed artillery, or Javelin here).

Personally, I think the M10 is going to suffer the same "orphan vehicle syndrome" as the MGS, unless it is managed by the Armor branch (and Infantry branch will fight tooth and nail to do it for themselves).

The maintenance and gunnery requirements are initially overwhelming to most Infantry officers who are accustomed to much less intensive stuff that they can wear or carry, and it's a running joke that Infantry officers who show up to the Maneuver Captain's Career Course routinely have their mind blown when they realize that 20km can be covered in a few minutes, as opposed to hours or days, and that hitting targets out past 2km is also done with boring regularity by the Armor (and even Aviation) guys.

It's a learning curve and a risk when people accustomed to thinking in small bullet terms try to use bigger bullets.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:21:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tuco22:

Good to see them putting those humvees to good use.
That gunner was going to town
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Originally Posted By realwar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2d-539TJlg

Good to see them putting those humvees to good use.
That gunner was going to town
yuri post that on insta , he was in the first one and we know he likes the .50
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:21:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Why would they fake it? Blocking units have been part of Soviet/Russia army doctrine probably even Tsarist Russia forever. So have penal battalions. No need to fake it, both sides are well aware of their use.
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That makes me wonder what would happen if a bunch of the russian troops decided they had a better chance against the blockers than the Ukrainians.  Break the blocking force and disappear.  A whole new meaning to advancing to the rear!
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:22:15 PM EST
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Edit quoted wrong post
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:24:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

@m35ben  There was discussion in one of the threads on twitter that the vehicle on the right away from the clearing vehicles has too many road wheels, that it is ai. Does it look correct to you?
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I think its real. It looks like the one in the video but with proper green paint.

Inside the Chieftain's Hatch Snapshot: XM10 Booker

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:28:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
yuri post that on insta , he was in the first one and we know he likes the .50
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By Tuco22:
Originally Posted By realwar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2d-539TJlg

Good to see them putting those humvees to good use.
That gunner was going to town
yuri post that on insta , he was in the first one and we know he likes the .50

This further reinforces what I see a lot of. There tons of Russian defensive works but they are all incredibly undermanned.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:28:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Same, but I'll also remind that there was a very convincing fake on video with a train shipment last year some time.

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I think as long as we don't get enthusiastic to the point that we grab on to just any propaganda.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:31:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
I think its real. It looks like the one in the video but with proper green paint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdPmpidUbWo
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I'm guessing he's talking about the AI fake discussion, probably the Bergepanzer

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:34:53 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:35:56 PM EST
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Did anyone notice the Mosin Nagant rifle in the Russian trench at the end of the video?

Don't tell me that's what Russia is issuing their latest troops.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:37:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

I'm guessing he's talking about the AI fake discussion, probably the Bergepanzer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FycG4yOXsBcZlD-?format=jpg&name=medium
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Oh, yeah the M10 is not going to be in Ukraine. There are all test beds as far as I know right now.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:39:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By governmentman:


I'm kicking myself for not questioning this as AI. The placement of the third leopard is very strange.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
If chuck is reporting it you know others already did the work… so here it is. Been going around the last couple of hours:


I'm kicking myself for not questioning this as AI. The placement of the third leopard is very strange.


Have to question videos more now.  A few days ago Zoka posted a Leopard 2a4 kill which was a faked video.




Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:43:31 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:52:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:


I honestly can't imagine that Russia is in any way short on small arms, having the logistics to deliver them might be an issue. That would explain troops getting issued whatever is available locally.
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they destroyed millions of their own guns back in the early 2010s as part of a program to provide stimulus to their domestic manufacturers (they destroyed them and then re-ordered them to keep workers employed), so they could very well be short at this point, especially if the stockpile figures are fraudulent

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/russia-to-destroy-4-million-guns/78399
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:52:36 PM EST
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These are radar guided, or active radar homing in land use these could be fooled by corner reflectors and active radar jamming techniques and aren't pin point accurate.  Think of them as poor man's Harpoonsky.



Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:55:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kpacman:



Did anyone notice the Mosin Nagant rifle in the Russian trench at the end of the video?

Don't tell me that's what Russia is issuing their latest troops.
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Only every other one...
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 12:58:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex9661:


Galicia is a region currently owned partially by Poland and partially by Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By AgeOne:


Galicians?

Spanish Galicans? or is there a different Galicia?


Galicia is a region currently owned partially by Poland and partially by Ukraine.
Galicia

My great-grandparents immigrated from Galicia, they listed Galicia as their birthplace on my grandmothers christening and later children Austria-Hungary.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:00:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
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Includes the obligatory drip pan.
Don't see any traffic cones...
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:00:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GBTX01:


FPV Drone attack on russian bathers
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That had quite a bit of fragmentation and looked like it exploded above ground. Hit the guy standing?
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:01:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:02:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
Underwater mines revealed around Enerhodar as the Khakhovka Reservoir drains.

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Tilt rod AT mines?
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:03:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Saw this yesterday and it may have even been posted, but since it's Dugin who said it...
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Yeah that isn’t asymmetric. That is force on force asssult. 😂 Which they have not been able to do for months unless they pave a path with meat bags. Sure try it again it might work this time!  Bring your T54s!
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:03:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fyb-ZkVXsAIdSpn?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fyb-32BXsBgOMvr?format=jpg&name=large

These are radar guided, or active radar homing in land use these could be fooled by corner reflectors and active radar jamming techniques and aren't pin point accurate.  Think of them as poor man's Harpoonsky.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Seeker_Kh-35E_maks2005.jpg/330px-Seeker_Kh-35E_maks2005.jpg

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Ohhh something new for everyone to get ew data on.

Maybe some free Russia forces can borrow a few...they could be put to good use.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:06:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that.

Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs:
JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets.

80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow!
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Originally Posted By 2A373:
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The B-2 laughs at those tiny anti-ship missiles.

GBU-57

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/GBU-57_B-2_jpg-2848546.JPG


Jesus if that hit a Russian ship at the pier it would punch straight through the whole thing and finally come to a stop in the ocean bed underneath and then blow up under the keel like a torpedo


We have bombs that can detonate under a ship's keel like a torpedo.

QUICKSINK

That variation of the JDAM is amazing. That hit would be 100% fatalities. Nobody is getting off a ship alive when hit with that.

Practically all fighters can carry it. Up to 15 mile range. I found this statement interesting while looking up its specs:
JDAM performance has been demonstrated in operationally representative tests including drops through clouds, rain and snow. These tests included a B-2 releasing 80 JDAMs on a single pass against multiple targets.

80 JDAMS in one pass. Wow!
An oldie but a good one

ETA-Beat

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:08:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Have to question videos more now.  A few days ago Zoka posted a Leopard 2a4 kill which was a faked video.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyDSXz3X0AMJX-6?format=jpg&name=900x900

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
If chuck is reporting it you know others already did the work  so here it is. Been going around the last couple of hours:


I'm kicking myself for not questioning this as AI. The placement of the third leopard is very strange.


Have to question videos more now.  A few days ago Zoka posted a Leopard 2a4 kill which was a faked video.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyDSXz3X0AMJX-6?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyEMnscacAE1Z2P?format=jpg&name=900x900

And here I was amazed that they'd killed a Leopard on the exact same road, in the exact same orientation, with the exact same smoke, and the exact same guy standing on the road.

Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:09:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Auto5guy:


That's literal Hitler in the bunker type stuff.

"When Steiner makes his attack everything will be alright."


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Originally Posted By Auto5guy:
Originally Posted By kncook:


"We should just take Kyiv and stop this .there must be some sort of plan, right?"



That's literal Hitler in the bunker type stuff.

"When Steiner makes his attack everything will be alright."




Poor fucking Steiner lives in infamy forever. Is Prigozhin vying to be the new Steiner?
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:13:18 PM EST
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It's good news it failed. The fact that it happened means the Russians are putting up an active defense and are able to execute strategic maneuvers in response to Ukrainian actions.

So it's a real war and it won't be the cake walk everyone was hoping for. Russia is putting up a real defense.

I can't understand why Ukraine doesn't have ATACMS and all the Patriots and other air defense they need. Timid leadership in Washington and Europe.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:13:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex9661:


Galicia is a region currently owned partially by Poland and partially by Ukraine.
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Not to be confused with the Galacia in Central Turkey who Paul wrong a letter too informing them that he had another vision and they could eat whatever they wanted and no longer had to cut their dicks.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:13:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668247319014244353

The ATESH partisans network asks all its affiliate to sabotage all piece of Russian equipment in the Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia area

"Attention all agents, the time has come. We turn to the maximum sabotage of orders and damage to equipment in parking lots and repair bases.
We do everything as we taught earlier:
we pour sand and sugar into the fuel tank and the neck of the gearbox of armored vehicles. Priority: Zaporozhzhia and Donetsk area. But if you spoil something in the Crimea, we will not condemn you;)

We duplicate the training video that was shown earlier.

Example: Over the past month, we have done a good job in the field of sabotage. In the Zaporozhzhia region, the 429th motorized rifle regiment, which was located in the village of Lobkovoe village lost 3 armored personnel carriers and 2 BPMs. For some reason they broke. You yourself know what happened in Lobkove afterwards. We express our gratitude to the agents who had a hand in this.

We do not stop, we spoil all the equipment that you can get to!"

PS Lobkovoe was liberated last week



John has a long mustache.
John has a long mustache.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 1:14:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fyb-ZkVXsAIdSpn?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fyb-32BXsBgOMvr?format=jpg&name=large

These are radar guided, or active radar homing in land use these could be fooled by corner reflectors and active radar jamming techniques and aren't pin point accurate.  Think of them as poor man's Harpoonsky.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Seeker_Kh-35E_maks2005.jpg/330px-Seeker_Kh-35E_maks2005.jpg

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Only thing those are good for is blowing up civilian apartment buildings.
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