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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Visual guide, tick tock. Also note, the Su-34's are the most current and best strike aircraft Russia has at the moment. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. View Quote Holy Shit... |
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Originally Posted By MNGearhead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Visual guide, tick tock. Also note, the Su-34's are the most current and best strike aircraft Russia has at the moment. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. Holy Shit... Their ecm systems aren't as advanced. It was disclosed in a RUSI article last year after the ecm systems were analyzed by Western intelligence. Other clues in this paper. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/ASOR/Journals/Volume-2_Number-3/Galamison_Petersen.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjSv6PHodGEAxUCF2IAHbF7C4oQFnoECDgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Y9k34GFYjPMMRh5q_GXTH Facinating reading. To compensate, the VKS currently fields the RTU 518-PSM electronic warfare suite on its Flanker family of aircraft.23 This wing- mounted pod, also known as the Khibiny family of jamming pods, is reported to be highly capable of detecting and defeating adversary SAM radars, utilizing what appears to be digital radio frequency memory technology.24 While the Su-34 can be configured with Khibiny pods to act in an escort jamming role, open- source reporting alludes to the fact that the Khibiny pods primarily operate in an autonomous mode, with pod software detecting, classifying, and transmitting a jamming signal back to the threat radar.25 In effect, they provide only self- protection jamming for aircraft, not electronic suppression of threat radars required for SEAD/DEAD. There are indications the VKS may have developed escort- jamming abilities to suppress enemy radars, but this capability is not confirmed, nor is there any indication that it has mastered the concept.26 Ukrainian air defenses have shot down at least one Su-35 and one Su-30SM equipped with Khibiny pods since the start of the conflict.27 This is not altogether unsurprising, given the deficiencies of digital radio frequency memory jamming against modern SAM systems. The frequency agility of modern radar- guided SAMs can make it difficult for such a jammer to consistently replicate a return signal sufficient to mask the jamming aircraft continually.28 The vital lesson regarding how the VKS utilizes these pods is that they are likely most beneficial when defending against a surface- to- air engagement and should not be relied on as a substitute for dedicated escort SEAD. If anyone remembers that article posted here months ago and the tidbit about the Su-34 ecm a repost would be helpful. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Why TF can't the Biden administration grow a set and issue a similar statement? |
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Send lawyers, guns, and money.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I would not recommend firing any of the loaded SAM missiles after a jolt like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/47/6d/ae476d8033bcf74d4a8dbad7741eaeaa.gif
I would not recommend firing any of the loaded SAM missiles after a jolt like that. Wanna put any money on that? |
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Note for the "moderator": This is not an attempt to derail the thread, the video shows some interesting details about the current drone development and what we can expect in the near futur.
World's Fastest Camera Drone Vs F1 Car (ft. Max Verstappen) Up to 350 km/h (220mph). That's some really scary shit. Right now there is no way to defend yourself against a high speed drone like this. Note for the "moderator": This is not an attempt to derail the thread, the video shows some interesting details about the current drone development and what we can expect in the near futur. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yeah, that really made me laugh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By Prime: The Russian Air Force reportedly used their latest Su-57 fighter jets in recent combat operations, targeting Ukrainian military positions in the East of Ukraine. On February 18, escorted by two Su-35 jets, the Su-57 launched a missile strike on Ukrainian targets. Sources suggest that the aircraft utilized the advanced Kh-69 stealthy cruise missile, specifically designed for the Su-57 platform. Operating from the occupied territory of the Luhansk region, the Su-57 entered Ukrainian airspace under escort and launched the missile. Despite a technical malfunction, the missile missed its target and crashed in a field. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHa9uMIW0AARewq?format=jpg&name=medium
What’s the point of it being stealth if escorted by two 4th gen fighters? lol. It’s not. Yeah, that really made me laugh. Probably to keep any NATO gear from getting a look at the real RCS, whatever it is. |
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Originally Posted By absael: Why TF can't the Biden administration grow a set and issue a similar statement? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Why TF can't the Biden administration grow a set and issue a similar statement? Just words. |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
TN, USA
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote When do they buy an Ohio SSBN and a field of Minuteman III's? Bout all that is left for Poland to buy. |
Panem et Circenses
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances. |
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Pro tip: if you see something shiny on the ground in a war zone, don't fucking touch it. "We are lucky that they are so fucking stupid.jpg" |
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I am Government Man, come from the government.
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Just words. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Why TF can't the Biden administration grow a set and issue a similar statement? Just words. Yup I'll believe it when Russian shit starts getting blown up by Taurus missiles |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Originally Posted By BillyDBerger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfHyy-4W5X0 This popped up too. Wonder if we still have any capability if space gets hot. View Quote This hit my YT feed last week, watched it. Neat stuff. |
Panem et Circenses
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances. |
Originally Posted By Capta: Wanna put any money on that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/47/6d/ae476d8033bcf74d4a8dbad7741eaeaa.gif
I would not recommend firing any of the loaded SAM missiles after a jolt like that. Wanna put any money on that? lol, it would not be a fair bet, because we both know they will try to fire them if they look okay. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: Probably to keep any NATO gear from getting a look at the real RCS, whatever it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By Prime: The Russian Air Force reportedly used their latest Su-57 fighter jets in recent combat operations, targeting Ukrainian military positions in the East of Ukraine. On February 18, escorted by two Su-35 jets, the Su-57 launched a missile strike on Ukrainian targets. Sources suggest that the aircraft utilized the advanced Kh-69 stealthy cruise missile, specifically designed for the Su-57 platform. Operating from the occupied territory of the Luhansk region, the Su-57 entered Ukrainian airspace under escort and launched the missile. Despite a technical malfunction, the missile missed its target and crashed in a field. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHa9uMIW0AARewq?format=jpg&name=medium
What’s the point of it being stealth if escorted by two 4th gen fighters? lol. It’s not. Yeah, that really made me laugh. Probably to keep any NATO gear from getting a look at the real RCS, whatever it is. that made me laugh too. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: And yet, Russian air force is maintaining aerial bombing of Ukrainian positions at the front. So however much success Ukrainian air defense is having recently, it's not enough. Russia currently has the edge on air power, and are inflicting serious damage with it. Good thing those ancient S200s are working well, because they need'em. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Prime: What the fuck https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHe5PzWXEAAFHQE?format=jpg&name=large 🔥 Today, February 29, is a date that occurs once every four years, but it is already a familiar day for Russians with the loss of another plane. Minus ⚠️ Su-34 in the Eastern direction! Thanks for the work! 🇺🇦 Victory on earth is forged in heaven! ➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖➖ 🇺🇦 Commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Mykola Oleschuk https://t.me/kpszsu/11253 At this point I’m going with what I suggested - they have S200 hybrid systems nuking fighters from orbit 200KM out. Besides that, I did wonder how they got a thermal pic of the SU that was probably downed well behind the lines And yet, Russian air force is maintaining aerial bombing of Ukrainian positions at the front. So however much success Ukrainian air defense is having recently, it's not enough. Russia currently has the edge on air power, and are inflicting serious damage with it. Good thing those ancient S200s are working well, because they need'em. If the losses are accurate Russia can’t keep that up. There were 148 SU-34s made. 5 were non-combat losses. 24 were lost before this alleged streak, and 9 in the last week = 33 losses, about 20% of the fleet overall. Looked at on a weekly basis, they just lost 9 of their remaining 119 SU-34s in a week, or 7.5% losses per week. Looked at on the basis of operational aircraft @50% readiness rates, they just lost 15% of their operational SU-34s in a week. If accurate, they simply can’t keep doing that. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Visual guide, tick tock. Also note, the Su-34's are the most current and best strike aircraft Russia has at the moment. They have the only ECM suite that doesn't cause the plane to go blind when they employ it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHgHugOWUAAxUy1?format=jpg&name=large View Quote I just thought of a lovely troll. Pick a Ukrainian runway know to be under some Russian spotting. Paint silhouettes (like those half-ass ones the Russians do) on the runway for every kill. Profit. |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote In for the video |
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Originally Posted By doc540: What are the small, black spheres in the bottom of the inflatable boat allegedly ambushed by the orcs? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/ukraine_boat4-3144932.png View Quote Looks like machinegun disintegrating belt links to me. |
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These guys made it to the USA.
Attached File We've been pretty busy here. Working 7 days a week doesn't leave much free time. The good news is we are caught up on work. The next few weeks will be interesting as we have to relocate to a new AO. It definitely makes the time fly staying busy. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Long range or heavy jamming. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Words are wind, as they say in Game of Thrones. Europe can say all they want, but their actual deliveries are not keeping up with their pledges. IOW, mouths writing checks their production lines & inventories can't cash. I might start to be convinced if I see Ukraine having a 5 or 10-1 advantage in fires. |
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Looks like new footage of Ukrainian sea drone attacks!
“Group 13” ? ???????? ?? ????????? ????????? |
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Threatening the French is a bad idea. The US has an image of the French as pansies but that is entirely false. They can be brutal ass kickers when the situation warrants it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 20 minutes ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHcaqFxa4AA-TCS?format=jpg&name=900x900 Hope so. I’d like to see them regain some of that WW-I martial pride and elan. It’s also been interesting to see how Russia completely mis-read the British. They have a hard earned history of Not surrendering to tyrants a lot more powerful than Putin. Sure, they’re a shadow of their former selves, but they still retain that National culture of belligerent Defiance which saved the world 3 times. Threatening them with nukes, was a stupid move, especially when it was completely unnecessary. |
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Solovyov & panel responding to the nonsense about Macron & NATO troops aiding Ukraine. What it really shows is why NATO is still a critical necessity for European security. Europe is just not safe as long as Russia is so militaristic & nationalistic. NATO may be weak these days, but it's the only thing keeping eastern Europe free (except Ukraine & Moldova, sucks for them). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDWZX3gRas View Quote They are such a smug, ignorant evil group. How could anyone support them? I really don’t get it. |
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Words are wind, as they say in Game of Thrones. Europe can say all they want, but their actual deliveries are not keeping up with their pledges. IOW, mouths writing checks their production lines & inventories can't cash. I might start to be convinced if I see Ukraine having a 5 or 10-1 advantage in fires. View Quote How many times now has the Taurus been pledged and then cancelled? |
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Just a stranger on the bus trying to find his way home.
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Originally Posted By doc540: What are the small, black spheres in the bottom of the inflatable boat allegedly ambushed by the orcs? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/ukraine_boat4-3144932.png View Quote Found a better picture. Definitely belt links. @doc540 |
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Originally Posted By jungatheart: How many times now has the Taurus been pledged and then cancelled? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Words are wind, as they say in Game of Thrones. Europe can say all they want, but their actual deliveries are not keeping up with their pledges. IOW, mouths writing checks their production lines & inventories can't cash. I might start to be convinced if I see Ukraine having a 5 or 10-1 advantage in fires. How many times now has the Taurus been pledged and then cancelled? Third row and opposition politicans demanded the delivery, but AFAIR it was never pledged by politicans in charge. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/rqwHjN3.jpeg Found a better picture. Definitely belt links. @doc540 View Quote thanks, I can see them now I still think it was a staged picture. |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Ukrainian Journalist and Mil-analyst Alexander Kovalenko «According to KAB (Russian FAB air-dropped bomb)... Despite the increased shooting of the Su-34, the intensity of the use of these front-line bombers with fighter functions has not decreased, and even more so. Thus, over the past 24 hours, on February 29, an absolute record for the use of KAB was set - 152! Previously, the absolute record for the use of KAB was also set in February, from 16 to 17, in the amount of 151 KAB, of which 94 were deployed in Avdeevka and its outskirts. Over the past 24 hours, the most intensive place of KAB arrivals was also the outskirts of Avdeevka. So, the enemy wipes out the village of Tonenke from the face of the earth - more than 30 cabs flew through it, and 10 through Orlivka. In total, the number of Russian Armed Forces (POB) KABs used in February exceeded 1,500, which is also an absolute record since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. All this indicates that, despite the loss of the Su-34, the work of the KAB continues. That is, planes and pilots are sent with the awareness of the high risks of destruction of both the aircraft and the crew, for one simple reason - the KAB is the only tool for opening our defense lines and fortified areas. Without the KAB, Russian troops will significantly lose their effectiveness in offensive operations. The situation is stalemate for them, because such intensity of flights of Russian aircraft allows us to catch them more often. But it should be understood that for every plane shot down, there are several dozen flights that were not intercepted. For example, over the past day there were more than 150 sorties of Su-35, Su-34 and Su-25. POB is now playing all-in. And, as we know, it is impossible to play all-in for a long time.» View Quote |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By BillyDBerger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfHyy-4W5X0 This popped up too. Wonder if we still have any capability if space gets hot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BillyDBerger: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Neat video. One thing I hadn't seen before was the B-52 pilots wearing an eye patch so that they would only lose sight in one eye if they got flashed. https://i.imgur.com/JexBWqz.jpeg More recently, pilots would wear something like an auto darkening welding mask. https://i0.wp.com/theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/EEU-2A-goggles-inflight.jpg?resize=678%2C381&ssl=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfHyy-4W5X0 This popped up too. Wonder if we still have any capability if space gets hot. No, vast majority of the landline antennas on those towers were taken down. Our cellular system will be worthless. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: If the losses are accurate Russia can’t keep that up. There were 148 SU-34s made. 5 were non-combat losses. 24 were lost before this alleged streak, and 9 in the last week = 33 losses, about 20% of the fleet overall. Looked at on a weekly basis, they just lost 9 of their remaining 119 SU-34s in a week, or 7.5% losses per week. Looked at on the basis of operational aircraft @50% readiness rates, they just lost 15% of their operational SU-34s in a week. If accurate, they simply can’t keep doing that. View Quote We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. View Quote The alternative is dropping to their knees. What do you suggest? |
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Originally Posted By doc540: "soon" "in two months" "by summer" "in 2024" ENOUGH if this bullshit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/gunny2-3145137.jpg View Quote I hear ya, I've seen timetables slip all the time. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHiC4yDXQAEY3EV?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHiC4pqXAAAbi-s?format=jpg&name=900x900
View Quote Like all Russian stuff, I bet it's really good at intercepting incoming missiles. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Capta: If the losses are accurate Russia can't keep that up. There were 148 SU-34s made. 5 were non-combat losses. 24 were lost before this alleged streak, and 9 in the last week = 33 losses, about 20% of the fleet overall. Looked at on a weekly basis, they just lost 9 of their remaining 119 SU-34s in a week, or 7.5% losses per week. Looked at on the basis of operational aircraft @50% readiness rates, they just lost 15% of their operational SU-34s in a week. If accurate, they simply can't keep doing that. We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. I'm reminded of the Norse myth from Gylfaginning, in which Thor tried to empty a horn, not realizing that the other end was submerged in the sea. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/pZtD6dd.jpeg If you mean these things, I say these are belt links, just looking a bit odd due to the low resolution of the picture. View Quote my take also. the resolution / shading / angle just makes them appear to be 'balls' |
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I am amazed every time Germany actually releases anything. Their leadership is so entrenched in the old East German way of thinking, And I truly believe that they are too scared of Fruzzia doing something to them, and or wonder what Fruzzia has on their leadership. As the economic powerhouse of europe, they should be putting out alot more than they are. And everything they do comes with strings or a moneymaking partnership that locks them into profits. Rant Over!
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Capta: If the losses are accurate Russia can’t keep that up. There were 148 SU-34s made. 5 were non-combat losses. 24 were lost before this alleged streak, and 9 in the last week = 33 losses, about 20% of the fleet overall. Looked at on a weekly basis, they just lost 9 of their remaining 119 SU-34s in a week, or 7.5% losses per week. Looked at on the basis of operational aircraft @50% readiness rates, they just lost 15% of their operational SU-34s in a week. If accurate, they simply can’t keep doing that. We keep saying "Russia can't keep that up." But they keep it up. It's still an open question whether they run out of stuff before Ukraine's defense collapses. As always, they only have to outlast western aid. The fact that they’re willing to suffer consequences regardless, doesn’t mean there are no consequences. That is a political tactic to test the west’s will, not an indication of either NATO’s or their military potential, which is declining every day. I personally applaud their will to continue paying any price. And paying, and paying, and paying. This is about grinding Russia to powder. |
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