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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Twitter video from FPV.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:12:43 PM EDT
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Things must not be going well for Russia the last day or two, judging by the amount of pro Russia propaganda that is flooding Twitter this morning. I’ve never seen it this bad in 2 years of being on that platform. Nearly every post of my feed is pro Russian or anti Ukrainian and anti Israel.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:18:25 PM EDT
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Long thread, tons of images.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Capta posted about these being used this morning, if you were wondering what the French JDAM contribution was. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHtzhYKWMAIRoGq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: When you look at the videos in the right order some things make more sense. This video was the first one to happen but the second one released. They weren’t rolling up to assault a target, they were in the middle of a field. When the camera drifts off the BTR, just at the tail end of that something hits around the BTR. I believe this was the Bradley shooting AP, and that the BTR was hit, killing its engine and possibly some crew, because the BTR didn’t attempt to keep going and reach the target (still half a mile ahead) or turn around and bug out. It stopped right next to another BTR, which was probably killed by the same Bradley. The Brad keeps shooting at least some AP, and HE. AP will probably go through both sides of a BTR and anything in it. The crew was probably almost immediately all wounded if not killed. It was an ambush and over before it began, except for the survivors being slaughtered. Right after the btr stopped, the driver opened his hatch, and was smoked by the bradley with a frontal hit. It was going nowhere, disabled or not. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:28:08 PM EDT
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Something different seems to be happening lately, I haven’t seen many tracked Russian IFVs on video and it seems like the daily number of destroyed artillery has gone way up and destroyed MLRS has gone down.
All the trash talking about Bradley’s over the years is evidently just been internet lore, there’ll be a whole rethinking of the use of IFVs from here on. Perhaps they’re getting close to the bottom of the barrel on BMPs and MLRs and it seems like T90s may be getting in short supply too. At any rate, I don’t count losing around a 1000 troops and dozens of armored vehicles EVERY DAY as winning, they can’t keep this up forever. Hopefully Ukraine can keep it up long enough. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:30:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Right after the btr stopped, the driver opened his hatch, and was smoked by the bradley with a frontal hit. It was going nowhere, disabled or not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Capta: When you look at the videos in the right order some things make more sense. This video was the first one to happen but the second one released. They weren’t rolling up to assault a target, they were in the middle of a field. When the camera drifts off the BTR, just at the tail end of that something hits around the BTR. I believe this was the Bradley shooting AP, and that the BTR was hit, killing its engine and possibly some crew, because the BTR didn’t attempt to keep going and reach the target (still half a mile ahead) or turn around and bug out. It stopped right next to another BTR, which was probably killed by the same Bradley. The Brad keeps shooting at least some AP, and HE. AP will probably go through both sides of a BTR and anything in it. The crew was probably almost immediately all wounded if not killed. It was an ambush and over before it began, except for the survivors being slaughtered. Right after the btr stopped, the driver opened his hatch, and was smoked by the bradley with a frontal hit. It was going nowhere, disabled or not. I started to say that, and it is possible. However it’s also possible that the driver decided it was unwise to go out the top hatch and went out the unengaged side hatch instead. Three men came out the side hatch, which is consistent with a BTR crew. Or they could’ve been three survivors out of more troops inside the BTR. You can see occasional flashes/puffs at the top and side hatches indicating some of the 25mm is penetrating and having effect inside. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:36:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ERNURSE]
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Either the Germans were incredibly stupid in the phone call discussing Taurus, Or maybe they intended it to be leaked so they could shut down transferring the weapon system to Ukriane.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ERNURSE: Either the Germans were incredibly stupid in the phone call discussing Taurus, Or maybe they intebnded it to be leaked so they could shgut down transferring the weapon system to Ukriane. Or the opposite. Yes the call raises the escalation specter, but it also undercuts Scholtz as a liar, and Scholtz is the one standing in the way. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:41:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:46:34 PM EDT
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Stolen from twitter, but it saves me typing.
Germany seems lacking in both healthy military doctrine, political leadership, a viable security policy, loyalty to allies, and in showing balls, or spine. And Germans are ok with all of this? |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Or the opposite. Yes the call raises the escalation specter, but it also undercuts Scholtz as a liar, and Scholtz is the one standing in the way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By ERNURSE: Either the Germans were incredibly stupid in the phone call discussing Taurus, Or maybe they intebnded it to be leaked so they could shgut down transferring the weapon system to Ukriane. Or the opposite. Yes the call raises the escalation specter, but it also undercuts Scholtz as a liar, and Scholtz is the one standing in the way. I just cant wrap my ahead around how Scholtz thinks, Germany sends so many small things but game changers are taboo to him. They have sent some great things in the way of SPG's etc, But his fear of escalation or his fear of something the FSB has on him or he is just a commie down deep. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 2:54:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ERNURSE: Either the Germans were incredibly stupid in the phone call discussing Taurus, Or maybe they intended it to be leaked so they could shut down transferring the weapon system to Ukriane. These guys are something like 55 - 60 years old, these guys don't know shit about cyber security. Germany is a wasteland when it comes to the internet and to cyber security. Every week some gov. agency gets hacked and blackmailed. Their cyber security agency BSI is a bad joke. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:02:03 PM EDT
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@AlmightyTallest
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: @AlmightyTallest
 monty python the holy grail Run away |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ERNURSE: I just cant wrap my ahead around how Scholtz thinks, Germany sends so many small things but game changers are taboo to him. They have sent some great things in the way of SPG's etc, But his fear of escalation or his fear of something the FSB has on him or he is just a commie down deep. “We’ll send a couple Patriot batteries and help shoot down a half billion dollars worth of aircraft, but we don’t want to send offensive weapons and GET INVOLVED”. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwR9dRWoAACklo?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwa04XW8AAMqe-?format=jpg&name=900x900
Twitter video from FPV.
Do we not include thermite grenades with every purchase/donation? It's interesting to see both sides of the conflict especially ground forces refuse to destroy equipment in hopes of future recovery but the IO campaign is in Russia's case most important for internal consumption. The capture of an M1 while military insignificant may help Putin sell the image that their forces are winning on a larger scale than actually portrayed. 
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:41:03 PM EDT
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:43:31 PM EDT
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CBC report on Russian occupation progress in Mariupol.
 Russia claims it's making Mariupol great again |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:04:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: At that altitude, wouldn't that be ripe for taking with a SAM? Is that in MANPAD range? I'm getting a strong impression Ukraine's air defense is seriously depleted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The planes are easy to spot in this weather.
At that altitude, wouldn't that be ripe for taking with a SAM? Is that in MANPAD range? I'm getting a strong impression Ukraine's air defense is seriously depleted. I would think a medium range Sam could work, but it is right at the front and vulnerable to artillery and drones then. Further from the front a long range SAM is reccomended. We don't know exactly when these were filmed, probably right before Russian planes started getting deleted violently. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:06:14 PM EDT
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Fortifying the Kherson oblast, a way of cutting off the road to #Odessa . Faced with the Novorossia project, Ukraine fortifies its right bank of the Dnieper and continues the destruction of the Russian Black Sea fleet. ( 1/11) 🇺🇦 🇷🇺🔹🧵
Fortifying the Kherson Oblast, a way to cut off the road to #Odessa . Faced with the Novorossia project, Ukraine fortifies its right bank of the Dnieper and continues the destruction of the Russian Black Sea fleet. 
Today, the actions of the Ukrainian army have eliminated two of the three threats to the city. Part of the fleet of landing ships was destroyed, the other damaged while those remaining were stuck in the port of Novorosirsk 
The other axis of attack was obviously the land axis via the Mykolaiv oblast. After repelling the assaults in front of Mykolaiv and Vosnessensk, the Ukrainian army liberated Kherson in November 2022. 
The front is therefore now concentrated on the banks of the Dnieper. On the Russian side, on the banks of the river and in front of the Crimea, trenches were dug. 
Recently, the Ukrainian army began the construction of a huge defense line stretching from Krivi Rih to Mykolaiv, facing the Dnieper. This line is currently mainly composed of an anti-tank ditch and a few trenches.
Ukrainian fortifications of this type are the first since the start of the war. Over the last two years, it was mainly forts and a few trenches, it is now the Russian model which is adopted.
The old Ukrainian defenses of Mykolaiv and Russian defenses of Kherson can still be used, the main line of defense is visible to the west of Kherson. This is still under construction, several parts having already been dug. 
The old defenses of Krivi Rih are also still present, while a new line follows the Dnieper, in the coming days/weeks we will have a complete line (the white lines are the missing areas). 
These important defenses will provide Odessa with long-term protection: even if the improbable - a crossing of the Dnieper by the Russians - happens, defenses will be ready. 
Across Ukraine, defenses of the same type are being built everywhere on the front, particularly in the Zaporizhia region.
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:10:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: “We’ll send a couple Patriot batteries and help shoot down a half billion dollars worth of aircraft, but we don’t want to send offensive weapons and GET INVOLVED”. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By ERNURSE: I just cant wrap my ahead around how Scholtz thinks, Germany sends so many small things but game changers are taboo to him. They have sent some great things in the way of SPG's etc, But his fear of escalation or his fear of something the FSB has on him or he is just a commie down deep. “We’ll send a couple Patriot batteries and help shoot down a half billion dollars worth of aircraft, but we don’t want to send offensive weapons and GET INVOLVED”. He fears that the Ukrainians would hit the Kremlin with Taurus. Maybe he got a letter from the FSB with pictures of his family. The Russians are having dirt on him. He was many times in Moscow when he was a young socialist. He don't know shit about the military, he was always anti NATO and never cared about the Bundeswehr. He's listening to his advisors. Most of them are highly anti NATO and anti military, the SPD is a socialist party. Some of his advisors are retired Generals, who are defeatists and are calling for a ceasefire because Ukraine can't win against mighty Russia. And he is a spineless coward who is only reacting when he is under immense pressure from others. He's basically doing nothing proactive, not about Ukraine and not about Germany. He's not leading, he's just reacting to stay in power. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:15:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: @AlmightyTallest
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk*snort* lol, that made my day.  Thanks. 
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:29:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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NSFW
Magyar lands a drone on a tower and it explodes in a mobik face. https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1764365423414219090 English translation version.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:36:58 PM EDT
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According to the doctor, there are a lot of dead and wounded. Also, evacuating the wounded is almost impossible due to constant shelling from mortars and Ukrainian drones flying overhead. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:42:27 PM EDT
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Not as new as Fighter bomber claimed the other day.
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:44:15 PM EDT
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Repost from a tweet posted earlier:
    ATESH agents during reconnaissance of the Belbek airfield discovered two 5N87 radar systems. A repair base and a parking lot for military equipment were discovered near the airfield. This is interesting, these radars were developed in the late 1960s, fielded in 1971 and were produced until 1985. Which leads to the questions were they set up as HARM traps or are they running out of modern systems. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Not as new as Fighter bomber claimed the other day.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHq5Nw2WQAANKxc?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwhKqqWgAEQYph?format=jpg&name=small At least a new paint job, or a new photoshop. Somebody should check the weather where these planes are produced. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n:
The edits on some of these vids should be considered a war crime 
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Posted: 3/3/2024 4:58:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Repost from a tweet posted earlier: https://i.imgur.com/5EGL9To.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/0KUosal.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/q3VRJbV.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/jz57P1B.jpeg This is interesting, these radars were developed in the late 1960s, fielded in 1971 and were produced until 1985. Which leads to the questions were they set up as HARM traps or are they running out of modern systems. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Repost from a tweet posted earlier: https://i.imgur.com/5EGL9To.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/0KUosal.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/q3VRJbV.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/jz57P1B.jpeg ATESH agents during reconnaissance of the Belbek airfield discovered two 5N87 radar systems. A repair base and a parking lot for military equipment were discovered near the airfield. This is interesting, these radars were developed in the late 1960s, fielded in 1971 and were produced until 1985. Which leads to the questions were they set up as HARM traps or are they running out of modern systems. They are still useful, they are ground control intercept radars (GCI) for vectoring Russian aircraft to targets they pick up. They can also help the big S-400 system's to protect their radar until the last minute to turn them on to fire at targets. Unless they are being used to fire SA-5's like Ukrainian forces are claimed to be using to get aircraft at long range. Your 2nd image has a much more modern system that the S-300/400 might use next to those older systems. Detection Ranges, 1 m2 RCS target 200 m alt: 50 km 400 m alt: 200 km 6000m alt.:310 km Max range: 450 km (380 km for fighter sized target) |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:00:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: He fears that the Ukrainians would hit the Kremlin with Taurus. Maybe he got a letter from the FSB with pictures of his family. The Russians are having dirt on him. He was many times in Moscow when he was a young socialist. He don't know shit about the military, he was always anti NATO and never cared about the Bundeswehr. He's listening to his advisors. Most of them are highly anti NATO and anti military, the SPD is a socialist party. Some of his advisors are retired Generals, who are defeatists and are calling for a ceasefire because Ukraine can't win against mighty Russia. And he is a spineless coward who is only reacting when he is under immense pressure from others. He's basically doing nothing proactive, not about Ukraine and not about Germany. He's not leading, he's just reacting to stay in power. So pretty much in the same boat as the USA/Xiden... 
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: At least a new paint job, or a new photoshop. Somebody should check the weather where these planes are produced. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Not as new as Fighter bomber claimed the other day.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHq5Nw2WQAANKxc?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwhKqqWgAEQYph?format=jpg&name=small At least a new paint job, or a new photoshop. Somebody should check the weather where these planes are produced. There is a reason the Russians did not show the aircraft tail number.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:05:14 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:12:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I would think a medium range Sam could work, but it is right at the front and vulnerable to artillery and drones then. Further from the front a long range SAM is reccomended. We don't know exactly when these were filmed, probably right before Russian planes started getting deleted violently. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The planes are easy to spot in this weather.
At that altitude, wouldn't that be ripe for taking with a SAM? Is that in MANPAD range? I'm getting a strong impression Ukraine's air defense is seriously depleted. I would think a medium range Sam could work, but it is right at the front and vulnerable to artillery and drones then. Further from the front a long range SAM is reccomended. We don't know exactly when these were filmed, probably right before Russian planes started getting deleted violently. Those glide bombs are being dropped 30-40km from the FLOT |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:16:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: Those glide bombs are being dropped 30-40km from the FLOT Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The planes are easy to spot in this weather.
At that altitude, wouldn't that be ripe for taking with a SAM? Is that in MANPAD range? I'm getting a strong impression Ukraine's air defense is seriously depleted. I would think a medium range Sam could work, but it is right at the front and vulnerable to artillery and drones then. Further from the front a long range SAM is reccomended. We don't know exactly when these were filmed, probably right before Russian planes started getting deleted violently. Those glide bombs are being dropped 30-40km from the FLOT Exactly, and things like NASAMS and BUK at the front could try to intercept, but it is too risky to have them out front like that. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:18:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Unpossible! GD assures me that it is the cokehead faggot Zelensky who oppresses the free exercise of religion, and Putin is a faithful man who defends Christianity and Christian values from globohomo! And there are actually people who defend Putin in GD. What a nightmare. Still? Really? I don’t get out of the boat much but I was wondering if they were still professing sweaty man-love for the malignant little manlet Putin. How does one defend this guy anymore? |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Exactly, and things like NASAMS and BUK at the front could try to intercept, but it is too risky to have them out front like that. Time for some IRIS SLX test. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: The edits on some of these vids should be considered a war crime That one looks like the same pair of tanks later. My guess is the first fron needed a new battery, and the edited in part is going back to check on it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Time for some IRIS SLX test. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Exactly, and things like NASAMS and BUK at the front could try to intercept, but it is too risky to have them out front like that. Time for some IRIS SLX test. That would be useful. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:31:06 PM EDT
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On topic of the German Taurus leak:
 This guy is part of the leadership of the Bundeswehr Cyber security unit. He or now she said the s/he likes to get gangbanged in Darkrooms.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:32:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Still? Really? I don’t get out of the boat much but I was wondering if they were still professing sweaty man-love for the malignant little manlet Putin. How does one defend this guy anymore? It's more about insulting Ukraine and fuck giving them anything without putin now. The war is failing because russia took Avdiivka, and Ukraine can't stop them anyway. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 5:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwR9dRWoAACklo?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHwa04XW8AAMqe-?format=jpg&name=900x900
Twitter video from FPV.
First pic is interesting. Obviously DJI OS. 85% battery power left, yet very weak signal ( so far away ) does not show how far and...ZERO satelite signal? |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunn19: Things must not be going well for Russia the last day or two, judging by the amount of pro Russia propaganda that is flooding Twitter this morning. I’ve never seen it this bad in 2 years of being on that platform. Nearly every post of my feed is pro Russian or anti Ukrainian and anti Israel. Yeah...it appears gravity not only affects rich oligarchs but Russian aircraft as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:10:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:28:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They are still useful, they are ground control intercept radars (GCI) for vectoring Russian aircraft to targets they pick up. They can also help the big S-400 system's to protect their radar until the last minute to turn them on to fire at targets. Unless they are being used to fire SA-5's like Ukrainian forces are claimed to be using to get aircraft at long range. Your 2nd image has a much more modern system that the S-300/400 might use next to those older systems. I'm not saying they aren't useful and I'm aware that the Russian radar and AD systems are somewhat downward compatible in theorie. I'm just curious why these old radars started appearing in late 2023 - there must be a good reason, because these old systems are having a lot of downsides in comparison with the newer systems. 
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I'm not saying they aren't useful and I'm aware that the Russian radar and AD systems are somewhat downward compatible in theorie. I'm just curious why these old radars started appearing in late 2023 - there must be a good reason, because these old systems are having a lot of downsides in comparison with the newer systems. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They are still useful, they are ground control intercept radars (GCI) for vectoring Russian aircraft to targets they pick up. They can also help the big S-400 system's to protect their radar until the last minute to turn them on to fire at targets. Unless they are being used to fire SA-5's like Ukrainian forces are claimed to be using to get aircraft at long range. Your 2nd image has a much more modern system that the S-300/400 might use next to those older systems. I'm not saying they aren't useful and I'm aware that the Russian radar and AD systems are somewhat downward compatible in theorie. I'm just curious why these old radars started appearing in late 2023 - there must be a good reason, because these old systems are having a lot of downsides in comparison with the newer systems. Ah, I see what you mean. I think the Storm Shadows and Scalp cruise missiles are causing attrition of the better radars.
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:44:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I'm not saying they aren't useful and I'm aware that the Russian radar and AD systems are somewhat downward compatible in theorie. I'm just curious why these old radars started appearing in late 2023 - there must be a good reason, because these old systems are having a lot of downsides in comparison with the newer systems. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They are still useful, they are ground control intercept radars (GCI) for vectoring Russian aircraft to targets they pick up. They can also help the big S-400 system's to protect their radar until the last minute to turn them on to fire at targets. Unless they are being used to fire SA-5's like Ukrainian forces are claimed to be using to get aircraft at long range. Your 2nd image has a much more modern system that the S-300/400 might use next to those older systems. I'm not saying they aren't useful and I'm aware that the Russian radar and AD systems are somewhat downward compatible in theorie. I'm just curious why these old radars started appearing in late 2023 - there must be a good reason, because these old systems are having a lot of downsides in comparison with the newer systems. I don't know what the failure rates are for the S300/400 components but just like their jets, I assume they've been running them ragged for a long time forcing them to have to rely on older systems to fill in gaps left behind by poor maintenance, exceeding a system's life expectancy or combat loss. |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:46:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/3/2024 6:51:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: NSFW Magyar lands a drone on a tower and it explodes in a mobik face. https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1764365423414219090 English translation version.
Madyar loves his work!  Surprise Cockfags! |
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