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Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Enlighten me on how Tucker Carlson is supposedly some Russian mouthpiece? View Quote Extremely doubtful but many people here immediately paint over others with a wide brush. Thus when a reasonable person points out that not wanting the US to get pulled into defending Ukraine is a position one can have without being a Russian stooge they pile on with calling you a idiot/ stooge/ fool etc. We see this behavior all the time here on pretty much every issue. |
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Originally Posted By WildBill375: I don't think anyone believes the narrative that Ukraine, after all this time and with Russians on the border in mass are going to start hostilities. Got to be braindead to believe that stretch. View Quote I don't think Ukraine is going to decide to attack Russia, but I could easily see some local commander with an itchy trigger finger and a grudge to settle start shelling. To be honest he wouldn't have anything to lose, if everyone believes Russia is going to attack, and no matter what happens any "attack" on the Russian side would be immediately deemed a "false flag". *shrug* I don't really believe any thing either side says to be totally honest. I don't like Russia and don't trust them or Putin, but I don't have any particular reason to trust those giving the "Ukrainian side". No offense meant to you of course, BerettaGuy. |
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Lets see if this works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGQ1PG-jSE War Gonzo just got there in time to film the aftermath of the bombing. https://i.imgur.com/fAb6drE.jpg Vehicle belongs to Sinenkov, head of the NM of the DPR. Assassination attempt now. lol View Quote So the vehicle used by a party head is left unattended/observed, or the Ukrainians employed Sam Fisher or John Clark to slip undetected into and out of Russian separatist security forces to leave a bomb that didn't do what it was supposed to do? CSB. |
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Side note: Just gotta' say, you're the first person I've seen using that "pay-triotic" label and I find it amusing. And your list of "usual suspects," is interesting, though I'm not familiar with some of them. I actually enjoy some of Paul Joseph Watson's sarcastic commentaries, they reflect a lot of my own opinions. But I find it difficult to take anyone who associates with Alex Jones seriously. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: You are welcome. Unfortunately, many conservative and "pay-triotic" websites/talk show hosts are implying that Ukraine is some backward worthless country (Tucker Carlson, Zero Hedge, BeforeItsNews.com, GlobalResearch.ca, Hal Turner, Paul Joseph Watson, Power Hour radio show, etc.) as that is part of the disinformation campaign to deflect any investigation/critical thinking that Putin may be taking Ukraine for other purposes and that his fear of NATO is a smokescreen which it is. Side note: Just gotta' say, you're the first person I've seen using that "pay-triotic" label and I find it amusing. And your list of "usual suspects," is interesting, though I'm not familiar with some of them. I actually enjoy some of Paul Joseph Watson's sarcastic commentaries, they reflect a lot of my own opinions. But I find it difficult to take anyone who associates with Alex Jones seriously. Pay-triotic fits many of them - think big box churches with pastors who makes tens of millions of dollars as an analogy. Look up any Alex Jones/Info Wars reports on Ukraine from 2014 (or around 2008-9 on Georgia) and you will see 100% Putin praising and Ukrainian-condemning news reports. Jones launched Watson and his current reports are the same, just like his other reports on Ukraine from years ago. There was information that Watson worked for RT News at one time but Jones uses RT News as gospel and worked very closely with them and some of their hosts, often interviewing them on his show and vice versa. Sure, all of the sites I mentioned have information I agree with on the 2A, natural medicine, free speech, etc. but some of these sites are either duped into thinking that Putin is some freedom loving Christian who is defending them against the New World Order (which is bullshit since Putin is a globalist) OR they are paid shills. Most of those sites are donor supported and it's very easy to get money funneled to them from the Kremlin - just ask Paul Manafort... |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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There's that phrase again... Military-technical |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: ...are either duped into thinking that Putin is some freedom loving Christian who is defending them against the New World Order (which is bullshit since Putin is a globalist) OR they are paid shills. View Quote Those are the ONLY two options? Your world is extremely black and white isn't it? |
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Originally Posted By PissedMick: I don't watch Tucker because we don't pay for cable, but I'm going to make a guess that you're talking about Clint Ehrlich. I'm not sure if he's on a payroll, or is just naive, but yeah, he's definitely a Russian apologist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PissedMick: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: He spouts Russian talking points about Ukraine, I didnt say he was a mouthpiece like some of those other sites are. His so-called Russian expert is an American who worked in and for the Russian government and he is a Russian apoligist. I dug up all the info on him and it's on this thread within the last two weeks of you want proof. I don't watch Tucker because we don't pay for cable, but I'm going to make a guess that you're talking about Clint Ehrlich. I'm not sure if he's on a payroll, or is just naive, but yeah, he's definitely a Russian apologist. Yes, if I go back to my old post I will repost it. He was on the Russian government payroll for years and that is declared and out in the open. |
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Patrick Henry is the greatest Founding Father because without him there would be no Bill of Rights!
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
There's that phrase again... Military-technical View Quote It may just be the closest translation to a word that doesn't have an exact english language counterpart. |
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I get nervous whenever I find myself in a room full of people who all agree with one another and have no counter points to bring up. I'm all for unity, but that unity should come once we're committed not before. It's important to hear both sides of the argument.
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Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Those are the ONLY two options? Your world is extremely black and white isn't it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: ...are either duped into thinking that Putin is some freedom loving Christian who is defending them against the New World Order (which is bullshit since Putin is a globalist) OR they are paid shills. Those are the ONLY two options? Your world is extremely black and white isn't it? Give an article list count from the past week from each of those sites with the following: -number of pro-Russian or Russian sources news articles --number of pro-Ukrainian or Ukrainian sources news articles -number of neutral or equally cited Russian and Ukrainian news sources articles |
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Originally Posted By m24shooter: So the vehicle used by a party head is left unattended/observed, or the Ukrainians employed Sam Fisher or John Clark to slip undetected into and out of Russian separatist security forces to leave a bomb that didn't do what it was supposed to do? CSB. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Lets see if this works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGQ1PG-jSE War Gonzo just got there in time to film the aftermath of the bombing. https://i.imgur.com/fAb6drE.jpg Vehicle belongs to Sinenkov, head of the NM of the DPR. Assassination attempt now. lol So the vehicle used by a party head is left unattended/observed, or the Ukrainians employed Sam Fisher or John Clark to slip undetected into and out of Russian separatist security forces to leave a bomb that didn't do what it was supposed to do? CSB. It's all laughable, but apparently so. lol |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. |
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Brandon said war with Russia is imminent.
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Putin has already got his victory. He's going to either get concessions out of NATO or invade and then conclusively demonstrate how weak NATO really is right now when it fails to pass any meaningful sanctions. NATO is so weak that only in the last month has it started to get serious about sending ATGMs into Ukraine in number View Quote NATO, a defensive alliance, is weak because they don't defend a non-member? |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. View Quote What is the range on a Javelin? |
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
"75% of all hospitalization for C****-19 have received mRNA shots" -Martin248 |
Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Enlighten me on how Tucker Carlson is supposedly some Russian mouthpiece? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Well, be sure to catch the latest "news" on this from a Kremlin/RT News/Tass/Sputnik perspective on any of the following "pay-triotic" sources: Tucker Carlson, Zero Hedge, BeforeItsNews.com, GlobalResearch.ca, Hal Turner, Paul Joseph Watson, Power Hour radio show, WhatReallyHappened.com TruNews.com, InfoWars, etc. Enlighten me on how Tucker Carlson is supposedly some Russian mouthpiece? As I said, I didn't say Tucker was a Russian mouthpiece like some of the other news sites are but Tucker's expert on Russia certainly is: Here is the background on Tucker Carlson's Russia expert: Clinton Ehrlich (born September 20, 1989) is a Visiting Researcher at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, who is known for being one of the only Westerners in Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][9][10][11] According to Foreign Policy, Ehrlich is embedded at the highest level of Moscow's national-security brain trust.[12] If you have any idea what that means you would realize that Mr. Ehrlich is at the highest level of being a Russian disinformation operative. If you read any of his works and know anything about Russian disinformation campaigns, you would realize that he negotiates on behalf of Russia through his political appearances and writings as an "expert on Russia." And Tucker DOES agree with Jeffrey Ehrlich on Ukraine and this issue. And Carlson has made several derogatory remarks about Ukraine. Here is another photo of Ehrlich: I love the attention to detail with the hammer and sickle... https://twitter.com/ClintEhrlich |
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Originally Posted By fox2008: What is the range on a Javelin? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? Around 2.5 km |
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Originally Posted By fox2008: What is the range on a Javelin? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? 2500m |
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Does the Polish airforce or usaf units there have slammers on hand? Could make for quick work of those Iskander units..
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: As I said, I didn't say Tucker was a Russian mouthpiece like some of the other news sites are but Tucker's expert on Russia certainly is: Here is the background on Tucker Carlson's Russia expert: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Clinton_Ehrlich_Sitting_MGIMO.jpg/300px-Clinton_Ehrlich_Sitting_MGIMO.jpg Clinton Ehrlich (born September 20, 1989) is a Visiting Researcher at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, who is known for being one of the only Westerners in Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][9][10][11] According to Foreign Policy, Ehrlich is embedded at the highest level of Moscow's national-security brain trust.[12] https://i.ibb.co/dfvCqbf/20220129-151755.jpg If you have any idea what that means you would realize that Mr. Ehrlich is at the highest level of being a Russian disinformation operative. If you read any of his works and know anything about Russian disinformation campaigns, you would realize that he negotiates on behalf of Russia through his political appearances and writings as an "expert on Russia." And Tucker DOES agree with Jeffrey Ehrlich on Ukraine and this issue. And Carlson has made several derogatory remarks about Ukraine. Here is another photo of Ehrlich: https://i.ibb.co/YbHmZK3/20220129-113916.jpg I love the attention to detail with the hammer and sickle... View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Around 2.5 km View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? Around 2.5 km I think 2.5km was the official requirement for Javelin as a man portable atgm, but when they started considering it for use as a vehicle launched atgm, they tested it out past 4km. |
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Originally Posted By fox2008: What is the range on a Javelin? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? Give it a day or three |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By GreenMushroom: Hopefully they have enough discipline not to waste them on BMPs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreenMushroom: Originally Posted By fox2008: What is the range on a Javelin? Hopefully they have enough discipline not to waste them on BMPs Smoking a bmp packed with enemy troops is a good kill. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So now they're gonna nuke The Poland? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Also, the “CIA mercenaries releasing chemical weapons” fake false flag is in full swing, DNR claims the operatives are speaking Polish and this video was recovered from them. So now they're gonna nuke The Poland? “The Poland” That’s good. |
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Car bomb in Donetsk?
No one expects an Irish invasion of Ukraine, Russia's been a diversion all along. |
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: I think 2.5km was the official requirement for Javelin as a man portable atgm, but when they started considering it for use as a vehicle launched atgm, they tested it out past 4km. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? Around 2.5 km I think 2.5km was the official requirement for Javelin as a man portable atgm, but when they started considering it for use as a vehicle launched atgm, they tested it out past 4km. It's been awhile since I read the book Roughneck 91, but that SF ODA was one of if not the first unit to use javelins in combat. They describe getting kills well beyond what they thought it was capable of in training. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: If you have any idea what that means you would realize that Mr. Ehrlich is at the highest level of being a Russian disinformation operative. If you read any of his works and know anything about Russian disinformation campaigns, you would realize that he negotiates on behalf of Russia through his political appearances and writings as an "expert on Russia." And Tucker DOES agree with Jeffrey Ehrlich on Ukraine and this issue. And Carlson has made several derogatory remarks about Ukraine. Here is another photo of Ehrlich: https://i.ibb.co/YbHmZK3/20220129-113916.jpg I love the attention to detail with the hammer and sickle... View Quote Found a Tucker Carlson clip (Jan. 19, 2022) with a Clint Ehrlich appearance - starts at 1:45. Not hearing anything that smacks of Russian disinformation. Sounds like a fairly rational commentary, actually. I think I'll just file this away in my mind for future contemplation and consideration. Russian policy officer reveals what's at risk for the US |
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Thank you for this. I heard some of these stats recently and was blown away. I had no idea that Ukraine was such a resource rich country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: To help understand the "why" military action is taking place, and where it may take place, its important to understand more about Ukraine and that's why I have posted Ukrainian history and politics here. Any military conflict has economics as an influencer: For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “ How the nation of Ukraine ranks: 1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons); 2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves; 3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters) 4th in the world by the total value of natural resources; 7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons) Ukraine is an agricultural country (richest soil in the world): 1st in Europe in terms of arable land area; 3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume); 1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil; 2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports; 3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world; 4th largest producer of potatoes in the world; 5th largest rye producer in the world; 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons); 8th place in the world in wheat exports; 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs; 16th place in the world in cheese exports. Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people. [Russia's buddy China could use some of this...] Ukraine is an industrialized country: 1st in Europe in ammonia production; 2-е Europe's and 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU); 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants; 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km); 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment; 3rd largest iron exporter in the world 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world; 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers; 4th place in the world in clay exports 4th place in the world in titanium exports 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates; 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products; 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons). Information provided by the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America, Ukrainian World Congress (my grandfather was a member all his life since coming here in the late 1940s) - Свiтовий Конґрес Українців Thank you for this. I heard some of these stats recently and was blown away. I had no idea that Ukraine was such a resource rich country. Ukraine has been called "The Breadbasket Of Europe" for a very long time. |
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Russia refused to participate in the OSCE meeting...not sure how old this is though.
kursk region...self propelled artillery being trailered
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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Originally Posted By stanprophet09: No NATO is weak because the US is weak. Afghanistan proved that. Germany is weak because they are depending on their NG from Russia. All Russia has to do is cut it off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stanprophet09: Originally Posted By RockMech: NATO, a defensive alliance, is weak because they don't defend a non-member? No NATO is weak because the US is weak. Afghanistan proved that. Germany is weak because they are depending on their NG from Russia. All Russia has to do is cut it off. NATO is weak because Great Britain, France, Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy and all of the other countries of NATO are weak. The only ones bothering to try anymore is Poland. |
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Turkish journalist no confirmation yet....
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Panem et Circenses
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Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: It's been awhile since I read the book Roughneck 91, but that SF ODA was one of if not the first unit to use javelins in combat. They describe getting kills well beyond what they thought it was capable of in training. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: May the Javelins fly
I should buy a Ukraine flag for the porch. What is the range on a Javelin? Around 2.5 km I think 2.5km was the official requirement for Javelin as a man portable atgm, but when they started considering it for use as a vehicle launched atgm, they tested it out past 4km. It's been awhile since I read the book Roughneck 91, but that SF ODA was one of if not the first unit to use javelins in combat. They describe getting kills well beyond what they thought it was capable of in training. They are stupid expensive, large, and a pain in the ass to tote around. Most US units don't want to carry them around. I went to Javelin training in 06. Consisted of a computer simulations and we had a live fire demonstration where 1 student was allowed to fire one at the tank range. They are designed so you can airburst on open vehicles or explode after penetration. Solid choice for any enemy armored vehicles. Ukraine has tanks as well. Many Russian tanks were destroyed in 2014 as well as Ukrainian t64's. |
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Found a Tucker Carlson clip (Jan. 19, 2022) with a Clint Ehrlich appearance - starts at 1:45. Not hearing anything that smacks of Russian disinformation. Sounds like a fairly rational commentary, actually. I think I'll just file this away in my mind for future contemplation and consideration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrCy0Vlcy4 View Quote How many times did he have him on? One that I'm aware. Maybe there was more than one. Who actually cares ? How many other guests did he have on when discussing Ukraine? Lot's of them and many dozens of times talking about Ukraine. The spamming of that one dude's pics as if he is the only guy and he somehow is actually proof the Tucker is a Russian dupe is retarded. Almost as retarded as dozens of posts about who is more authentic Ukrainian and the subsequent dicks measuring fests. |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Panem et Circenses
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Evacuations are staged.....
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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