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China is easing government exchange rate controls to let the Russian ruble fall faster in value against the Chinese yuan in a move that would help to insulate Beijing from economic sanctions on Moscow" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-eases-control-ruble-fall-faster-yuan-83360995 |
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Originally Posted By voodochild: Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By voodochild: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: https://i.postimg.cc/DZ8ZbpMn/4vxmnialalm81.jpg Well, UKR has the latest Russian AAA. Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. Sort of assuming they want to intel the crap out of it and then give a small portion of it back to the Russians. Then they will probably work a nice deal on a trade |
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Originally Posted By voodochild: Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By voodochild: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: https://i.postimg.cc/DZ8ZbpMn/4vxmnialalm81.jpg Well, UKR has the latest Russian AAA. Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. I would like to think that is already planned. |
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Originally Posted By Rumrunner358: I cannot believe (well I can), but it makes my head full of fuck how much equipment is abandoned in good working order. At least render it inoperative before you walk off! (well, no not really) View Quote It's just a training exercise. We'll circle back and grab it later. No big deal. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Yep. That man has risen to the occasion. I guess you can never predict something like that. The guy is becoming a cultural icon. He is the face of an ordinary person being brave. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Their biggest mistake was thinking Zelensky was just a comic. Yep. That man has risen to the occasion. I guess you can never predict something like that. The guy is becoming a cultural icon. He is the face of an ordinary person being brave. One of the greatest political quotes of my lifetime. Right up there with. "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" |
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Originally Posted By Auto5guy: The Biden administration has just authorized the use of chemical weapons by Russian forces in Ukraine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. |
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think this is video of the tank commander's tank in it. tweet from today not sure when footage from.
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Originally Posted By Commando223: I still have a hard time understanding how any military can be that bad. View Quote Conscript the dumbest people in your society, tell them their going on a training excercise and/or liberate a country that will welcome them with open arms, get shot at by every person in the country that has a gun? |
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNgfH_MXsAEP6h0?format=jpg&name=small View Quote Exemplary work, comrade! I shall appropriate and redistribute this, for the greater good. |
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Originally Posted By CS223: Saw this pop up on a couple of feeds but no idea who it is or what it says. https://t.me/dvish_alive/9755 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CS223: Originally Posted By HipSh0T: Can anyone confirm the Russians lost a War Hero, high ranking Tank Commander today in a botched assault on Kyiv? https://t.me/dvish_alive/9755 Google Translate... "Participant in the operation in Syria, Deputy Commander of the 31IAP of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant Colonel Khasanov Alexei Narzullayevich on March 5 was landed by our soldiers forever." |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: You seem pretty comfortable with the idea of wholesale slaughter of the Ukrainian civilian population. WGAF about them, as long as "we" don't "escalate", and make putin angry, right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By whollyshite: I didn't say that. This doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing answer. No, I actually think our current course of supplying the Ukrainians is a decent strategy, although I would have preferred for it to be more covert. Probably not possible in this day and age. It's not a guarantee for a total win, by any means, but it's the level of assistance that we can get away with. I do think any escalation of involvement is a bad move. I don't think we should have boots on the ground in Ukraine over this. No fly zones are also a huge escalation and out. Cutting deals for jets and flying them out of our (any NATO) bases, even for delivery, is also an escalation. We don't really want to escalate towards a heads-up fight between arguably the world's two biggest owners of nuclear weapons. I'll sit over here and root them on while they slot Rooskies. I'll watch Russia sink into a pit, economically, over their poor decisions. (I'll also later bemoan the idea when it's used against political enemies, but that's another discussion.) I'll let this play out and see how it goes, knowing that a "win" for the UKRs is not guaranteed. My guess is that Russia will take control of most, or a large part of the country, and then the really hard part of maintaining control will start. Eventually, it will end up like AFG ended up for us, that is assuming the UKRs have the stamina, which they seem to have. This still looks like it could be a marathon, not a sprint, but the UKRs are punching well above their weight limit, so anything can happen. The above quote was him asking what a "really bad" scenario looked like. I gave him my opinion. Now, if Russia acts first with nukes, or attacks on NATO, then that is a big variable change and all bets are off. I see a low probability of that, though. You seem pretty comfortable with the idea of wholesale slaughter of the Ukrainian civilian population. WGAF about them, as long as "we" don't "escalate", and make putin angry, right? I don't feel that "comfortable" with war, in general. It should be avoided whenever possible. This is one of those times where we can do that. I definitely don't feel comfortable enough with Ukraine to want to put the lives of my fellow countrymen, or a large population of people in Europe, on the line over a war that we have no business in. We weren't attacked. We're relatively new in political partners. We have no treaties. It's not of exceptional strategic value. The cost could be potentially catastrophic. The extent of involvement that I think we need to have is completely maxed out at this point. Probably a little over what I would like, but definitely no further. As I said before, I root them on, and I'm fine with supplying them, but they'll have to fight the battles. And as far as "wholesale slaughter," I definitely don't want the scale of "wholesale slaughter" that would be had if this went nuclear. It would be orders of magnitude worse. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: "China eases control to let ruble fall faster against yuan China is easing government exchange rate controls to let the Russian ruble fall faster in value against the Chinese yuan in a move that would help to insulate Beijing from economic sanctions on Moscow" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-eases-control-ruble-fall-faster-yuan-83360995 View Quote China is going to do whatever is for China - hook or crook |
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Originally Posted By SpaceGuy: It feels weird seeing all the combat video and the territory looks like most of Ohio with the tree lines and giant fields. Scary to think its their backyard for so many people with all the fighting around. View Quote Although we do have good topsoil here, there it really is like dark chocolate black soil. Good stuff. During WW2 Germany would ship it back via rail. |
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RT Reporting Russians have stuck back and captured some key Ukrainian vehicles and weapons that were abandoned.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Conscript the dumbest people in your society, tell them their going on a training excercise and/or liberate a country that will welcome them with open arms, get shot at by every person in the country that has a gun? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Commando223: I still have a hard time understanding how any military can be that bad. Conscript the dumbest people in your society, tell them their going on a training excercise and/or liberate a country that will welcome them with open arms, get shot at by every person in the country that has a gun? Then put them in equipment which has been maintained by commanders skimming maintenance money to their own bank accounts. |
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Originally Posted By GlockZen: RT Reporting Russians have stuck back and captured some key Ukrainian vehicles and weapons that were abandoned.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNg6WNeWUAY_zFT?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNg6Ys3WUAIL0rf?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNg6ZjgXIAYfysa?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNg6aSSXIAYQqnB?format=jpg&name=small View Quote Looks like a broken down vehicle yard, |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More View Quote Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. [ETA] Someone already beat me to it. |
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Originally Posted By dillydilly: The Ukrainian boys definitely look like they are getting meals regularly. Also they look like fantastic in their gear/camo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By ydididothis: Has everyone else noticed how the Ukrainian troops look to be in better shape than the Russian troops? Looks like they're wearing trash bags for gear, can't be comfortable for any of those cocksuckers. I hope they all die. The Ukrainian boys definitely look like they are getting meals regularly. Also they look like fantastic in their gear/camo. And they move with confidence and purpose, especially all these videos I see of them shooting RPGs and other anti-tank missiles. Nothing at all like all the video of fighters in the middle east. They are motivated. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. It's probably best that everyone keep Putin guessing WTF will get his whole ass blown off. I mean I'm no expert on foreign policy... |
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Originally Posted By mancow: I would like to think that is already planned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By voodochild: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: https://i.postimg.cc/DZ8ZbpMn/4vxmnialalm81.jpg Well, UKR has the latest Russian AAA. Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. I would like to think that is already planned. i would like to think that's already been done and it just needs to be turned back on the russians |
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Originally Posted By Dog1: That's at least the fifth Pantsir that I've seen them lose and I'm sure there's been more than that. That's not a cheap system View Quote Not a cheap system but it’s still a piece of shit. I’ve seen a bunch of them smoked on YouTube from Turkish and Israeli drones. You know, flying in the AIR. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. Yup. Jen Psaki just green lighted the use of WMD's. |
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Originally Posted By Auto5guy: The Biden administration has just authorized the use of chemical weapons by Russian forces in Ukraine. View Quote I am really just disgusted. I shouldn't be suprised tho. He threatened to nuke us!!! Time to piss our panties and let madmen do what they want I guess |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. Anything to take the focus off how horrible Biden is doing. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. She sure wasn’t going to repeat the mistake of the Obama administration and make a red line that they would just ignore. |
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Originally Posted By weptek911: Not a cheap system but it’s still a piece of shit. I’ve seen a bunch of them smoked on YouTube from Turkish and Israeli drones. You know, flying in the AIR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Dog1: That's at least the fifth Pantsir that I've seen them lose and I'm sure there's been more than that. That's not a cheap system Not a cheap system but it’s still a piece of shit. I’ve seen a bunch of them smoked on YouTube from Turkish and Israeli drones. You know, flying in the AIR. Probably works perfectly well for lawn darting an SU-25 |
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Originally Posted By whollyshite: I don't feel that comfortable with war, in general. It should be avoided whenever possible. This is one of those times where we can do that. I definitely don't feel comfortable enough with Ukraine to want to put the lives of my fellow countrymen, or a large population of people in Europe, on the line over a war that we have no business in. We weren't attacked. We're relatively new in political partners. We have no treaties. It's not of exceptional strategic value. The cost could be potentially catastrophic. The extent of involvement that I think we need to have is completely maxed out at this point. Probably a little over what I would like, but definitely no further. As I said before, I root them on, and I'm fine with supplying them, but they'll have to fight the battles. And as far as "wholesale slaughter," I definitely don't want the scale of "wholesale slaughter" that would be had if this went nuclear. It would be orders of magnitude worse. View Quote Ukraine may not be, but I'm more pessimistic than you and think that NOT acting in some form will embolden China to do the same thing in their aggressive territorial expansion (and it doesn't have to be the US that takes the lead - let the Europeans clean up their own mess for a change). Avoiding war is good and all, but it has an ugly habit of coming for you even when you want to avoid it. |
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Originally Posted By Consigli: Yup. Jen Psaki just green lighted the use of WMD's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Consigli: Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. Yup. Jen Psaki just green lighted the use of WMD's. Better response: All options are on the table. |
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Originally Posted By m24shooter: JTFC. We aren't on the same page with Europe apparently, and we have apparently broken from our previous view on this. What a shitshow. View Quote You're obviously misinformed, CNN said that the current administration is dedicated to playing nice with our allies, and no more mean tweets! I mean, the grown-ups are in charge now, and clearly their complete and total lack of actual success in any foreign policy venture is part of some master plan. |
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Originally Posted By voodochild: Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By voodochild: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: https://i.postimg.cc/DZ8ZbpMn/4vxmnialalm81.jpg Well, UKR has the latest Russian AAA. Should sell it to the US so we can reverse engineer it and find out how it works and find it's weaknesses. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: "China eases control to let ruble fall faster against yuan China is easing government exchange rate controls to let the Russian ruble fall faster in value against the Chinese yuan in a move that would help to insulate Beijing from economic sanctions on Moscow" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-eases-control-ruble-fall-faster-yuan-83360995 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By madmathew: I'm interested in where the troops who went with all that armor went? Killed, captured or ran off? It seems that if they ran toward home that they would not be very well received. View Quote See a turret blown half a block and you don't have to wonder where the bodies went. |
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Bad things happen in isolated instances in an armed populace, horrific things happen to a disarmed populace. 20th Century Democide https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
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Originally Posted By rgkeller: That's about right View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rgkeller: Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Because he thought that it would be easy like when he took Crimea. Just like Obama did nothing then, he knew that Biden (and by extension, Nato) wouldn't do shit either. If it had been over in 2- 3 days as expected, Putin would have taken what he wanted with only facing token sanctions that he had already planned for. It wasn't until UKR fought back, that other European countries decided that they better step up and help (while someone else was doing the fighting for them). As the war dragged on, public sentiment forced chicken-shit politicians to enforce tougher sanctions. Now Putin doesn't have an offramp where he can save face, so he is forced continue the suicidal path for Russia. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By whollyshite: I don't feel that comfortable with war, in general. It should be avoided whenever possible. This is one of those times where we can do that. I definitely don't feel comfortable enough with Ukraine to want to put the lives of my fellow countrymen, or a large population of people in Europe, on the line over a war that we have no business in. We weren't attacked. We're relatively new in political partners. We have no treaties. It's not of exceptional strategic value. The cost could be potentially catastrophic. The extent of involvement that I think we need to have is completely maxed out at this point. Probably a little over what I would like, but definitely no further. As I said before, I root them on, and I'm fine with supplying them, but they'll have to fight the battles. And as far as "wholesale slaughter," I definitely don't want the scale of "wholesale slaughter" that would be had if this went nuclear. It would be orders of magnitude worse. View Quote I get it, You are afraid of nukes, and dgaf about the senseless slaughter of innocent people. |
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Originally Posted By m24shooter: JTFC. We aren't on the same page with Europe apparently, and we have apparently broken from our previous view on this. What a shitshow. View Quote It's amazing to me to see Europe's leaders have apparently taken a moment to actually read up on a little bit of history. OTOH, we have the example of Obama's "bright line" in Syria to show the world that the US, even if it can be bothered to take a stand, won't enforce it. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. She refused to commit either way. One thing she did NOT say is that would be crossing a red line, she could have said that, she didn't. It wasn't giving permission quite as much as bidens "minor incursions comment. Her comment was extremely squishy. |
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Originally Posted By mancow: Maybe they didn't do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By M-1975: "Russian terrorists cut a high-pressure gas pipeline near Svitlodarsk, Donetsk region - media"
But why? Maybe they didn't do it. Nonsensical action to take. Seriously. If Russia is still sending gas through that pipeline, they are hoping somehow to get paid for it. Why would they destroy their source of revenue (unless they don't care anymore)? Maybe they didn't do it. As fooked up as the rest of their misadventure has been, it's a really good bet the Russians did something stupid and did it. Wouldn't really take much though. |
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: It's probably best that everyone keep Putin guessing WTF will get his whole ass blown off. I mean I'm no expert on foreign policy... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Just like the “minor incursion” he said would be allowed. It's probably best that everyone keep Putin guessing WTF will get his whole ass blown off. I mean I'm no expert on foreign policy... It’s not keeping them guessing when you say there will be no military response, so she just cut the M out of DIME. Which leaves us with: Diplomatic: the UN won’t do anything and they have basically no allies. Information: people know what shit they are up to outside of Russian and Russia is cutting their people off from the outside world Economic: we have already destroyed the economy of Russia |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. [ETA] Someone already beat me to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By realwar: Psaki suggests Putin will NOT cross a red line if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine and says 'we're trying to prevent a world war' White House press secretary Jen Psaki suggested on Thursday that Vladimir Putin using chemical weapons was not a 'red line' for the United States to prompt a military response. She doubled down on President Joe Biden's stance that America won't have boots on the ground in the Ukraine. And she refused to say what - if anything - would change that. 'I'm not going to get into red lines from here,' Psaki said from her podium in the White House briefing room. 'I'm not going to get into hypotheticals,' she noted. 'But the president's intention of sending U.S. military to fight in Ukraine against Russia has not changed.' American officials have expressed concern that Russia could use chemical weapons after the Russian Defense Ministry said Ukraine could make such a move, in what U.S. officials say could be a false flag operation to justify any moves by Moscow. More Absolutely mind blowing. She's basically told them they're free to use chemical weapons. [ETA] Someone already beat me to it. Let's not get carried away. She refused to answer a hypothetical that hasn't even been on the table, a chemical weapons attack on the rest of Europe. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: There's bio research labs all over the world. I think it's also obvious that we have bio weapons research going on as well, somewhere. Were any of these bio-weapons labs? There's exactly zero evidence of it, and even if there was it's frankly irrelevant. Hypothetically lets say there were weapons labs and Russia knew about them. An invasion still isn't the right answer when there would have been many other options on the table at that point. All hypothetical, since there isn't any evidence of it....further, if this was the case they could have struck those labs and left- not made demands about disarmament (which Ukraine should not and will not agree to), Crimea, and L&D. Actions speak louder than words. Even benign research I'm sure we don't want to Russians to have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By whollyshite: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NY12ga: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Really good thread
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/C1BA9406-7D2C-4435-A6D6-89E61AEF7288_jpe-2308217.JPG Did anyone else see this tweet???
I have no idea if this is real but here’s the link and below it in the spoiler is the (kinda long) translation https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html Click To View Spoiler The offensive of Russia and the new world © REUTERS / Valentyn Ogirenko Read ria.ru in Peter Akopov All materials A new world is born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine opened a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, intra-Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but it is worth talking about separately a little later. Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a high price, yes, through the tragic events of the virtual civil war, because now brothers separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies are still shooting at each other - but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness by gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in all its totality of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had refused this, allowed the temporary division to gain a foothold for centuries, we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants - for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land. Vladimir Putin assumed - without a drop of exaggeration - historical responsibility, deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian issue to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia - for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost to put pressure on us in the West, is only the second most important among them. Now there is no problem - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be eliminated, but it will be rebuilt, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be solved after the end of the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia is put. In any case, the period of split of the Russian people is coming to an end. And this is where the second dimension of the coming new era begins - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees Russia's return to its historical borders in Europe. And he is loudly indignant at this, although deep down he must confess to himself that it could not have been otherwise. Did anyone in the old European capitals, Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would abandon Kiev? In the fact that the Russians will always be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe unites, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control over European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and gather a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the Russian good (albeit not very clever) will. After that, swinging at Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe alone, did not have the strength to keep in its sphere of influence, much less take Ukraine. In order not to understand this, you had to be just geopolitical fools. More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it didn't work should have become clear twenty years ago. And fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even the deaf could hear - Russia is coming back. Now the West is trying to punish Russia for returning, for not justified its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing it to expand the western space to the east. In an effort to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are vital for us. But this has not been the case for a long time - the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who govern the West. No Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. Losses from the sublimation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, increasing the degree of confrontation brings huge costs - and the main ones are not economic at all. Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy - the German European integration project does not make strategic sense while maintaining Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. And it can't be successful because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But obtaining autonomy is also necessary for Europe for another reason - in case the States moves to self-isolation (as a result of increasing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focuses on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving. But the confrontation with Russia, in which the Anglo-Saxons draw Europe, deprives Europeans of even chances of independence - not to mention the fact that Europe is trying to impose a break with China in the same way. If now the Atlantists rejoice that the "Russian threat" will rally the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot help but understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new Iron Curtain on their eastern borders - realizing that it will turn into a pen for Europe. Whose century (or rather half a millennium) of global leadership is over anyway - but various options for its future are still possible. Because the construction of a new world order - and this is the third dimension of current events - is accelerating, and its contours are increasingly emerging through the spreading cover of globalization in Anglo-Saxon. The multipolar world has finally become a reality - the operation in Ukraine is not able to rally against Russia except the West. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well - this is a conflict between Russia and the West, it is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlantists, it is Russia's return to its historical space and its place in the world. China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia - no one believes that the West is leading the world order, much less establishing the rules of the game. Russia has not just challenged the West - it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally completed. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers by forces, of course, together with the West (one or not) - but not on its terms and not according to its rules. Conspiracy theorists need to read this. Why? What conspiracy theory does it go against? The ones that talk about various Russian "justifications" for the invasion- Nazis, labs, NATO, whatever. It simply boils down to Russia wanting the USSR to be a thing again. Thought it was pretty clear. 10-4 Yeah, that always seemed like bullshit. The boogeyman Azov battalion thing always made me chuckle. Those "Nazis" that served under a Jewish president. That's a hard one to understand. I still want to know what was going on at the labs, though. It wasn't used as justification by Putin for the invasion publicly. He would have to show proof that he knew about nefarious stuff going on there ahead of time to pass off that lie. I'm curious as to why the State Department is concerned about Russians getting the research at supposedly benign facilities. I just don't want it to be justification in the end. There's bio research labs all over the world. I think it's also obvious that we have bio weapons research going on as well, somewhere. Were any of these bio-weapons labs? There's exactly zero evidence of it, and even if there was it's frankly irrelevant. Hypothetically lets say there were weapons labs and Russia knew about them. An invasion still isn't the right answer when there would have been many other options on the table at that point. All hypothetical, since there isn't any evidence of it....further, if this was the case they could have struck those labs and left- not made demands about disarmament (which Ukraine should not and will not agree to), Crimea, and L&D. Actions speak louder than words. Even benign research I'm sure we don't want to Russians to have. Then there should be no reason not to open the books and show what research was going on there and what materials were held. It's not just the Russians that want to know what's going on there, it's Americans. It's time for some transparency. It also should be of no strategic importance to Russia, or on the State Department's radar if nothing was going on. They just need to show how benign it was and we can move on. Win/win. The last 3 years have proven that there's more to worry about from US funded bioresearch facilities than "bioweapons," right? |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: She refused to commit either way. One thing she did NOT say is that would be crossing a red line, she could have said that, she didn't. It wasn't giving permission quite as much as bidens "minor incursions comment. Her comment was extremely squishy. View Quote But then she followed it up with “no boots on the ground”. That’s saying the same thing without getting caught in a sound bite that can be used against you. |
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Originally Posted By grambosc: Exemplary work, comrade! I shall appropriate and redistribute this, for the greater good. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNgfH_MXsAEP6h0?format=jpg&name=small Exemplary work, comrade! I shall appropriate and redistribute this, for the greater good. Does anyone have the blue shirt in yellow text with Popping tops off since 2022 The top being a t72 |
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Originally Posted By Cav-Gunner: China is going to do whatever is for China - hook or crook View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cav-Gunner: Originally Posted By stone-age: "China eases control to let ruble fall faster against yuan China is easing government exchange rate controls to let the Russian ruble fall faster in value against the Chinese yuan in a move that would help to insulate Beijing from economic sanctions on Moscow" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-eases-control-ruble-fall-faster-yuan-83360995 China is going to do whatever is for China - hook or crook Absolutely. China only cares about china, and future china. China is doing what is best for china, and it is also bad for russia, so I'll take it. |
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Originally Posted By somedude: think this is video of the tank commander's tank in it. tweet from today not sure when footage from.
View Quote Heard "Bayaktar" at the end there. |
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Originally Posted By Obo2: level 2 biosecurity labs can still have some nasty shit in them. They are mostly held there as comparators to look for emerging diseases. If that was a legit concern it could have gone before any number of international groups and inspections could have been carried out without aggression. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By whollyshite: 10-4 Yeah, that always seemed like bullshit. The boogeyman Azov battalion thing always made me chuckle. Those "Nazis" that served under a Jewish president. That's a hard one to understand. I still want to know what was going on at the labs, though. It wasn't used as justification by Putin for the invasion publicly. He would have to show proof that he knew about nefarious stuff going on there ahead of time to pass off that lie. I'm curious as to why the State Department is concerned about Russians getting the research at supposedly benign facilities. I just don't want it to be justification in the end. level 2 biosecurity labs can still have some nasty shit in them. They are mostly held there as comparators to look for emerging diseases. If that was a legit concern it could have gone before any number of international groups and inspections could have been carried out without aggression. It's odd that the Undersecretary of State would say that in an open Senate hearing and not know about the international organizations, isn't it? I think that they should provide more detail. |
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Originally Posted By grambosc: Exemplary work, comrade! I shall appropriate and redistribute this, for the greater good. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By grambosc: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNgfH_MXsAEP6h0?format=jpg&name=small Exemplary work, comrade! I shall appropriate and redistribute this, for the greater good. Attached File |
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