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Hunter-Killer Wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere Joined Dec 2010 Posts 97929 EE 100% (68) TX, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 9:39:21 AM EST [#1] Attached File

GenYRevolverGuy Formerly known as Bassgasm Joined Dec 2010 Posts 47962 EE 100% (1) MO, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 10:06:48 AM EST [#2] Initial tests indicated Jordan Love’s ACL is intact. But there’s a wide range of outcomes based on additional scans, which will occur when the team gets back to Green Bay later today. https://t.co/yfwxQVT5vp Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) September 7, 2024 That’s something.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:16:05 AM EST

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

Initial tests indicated Jordan Love’s ACL is intact. But there’s a wide range of outcomes based on additional scans, which will occur when the team gets back to Green Bay later today. https://t.co/yfwxQVT5vp
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:18:17 AM EST

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

Initial tests indicated Jordan Love’s ACL is intact. But there’s a wide range of outcomes based on additional scans, which will occur when the team gets back to Green Bay later today. https://t.co/yfwxQVT5vp
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MilHouse-556 Member Joined Nov 2001 Posts 45088 EE 100% (13) OR, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 10:20:03 AM EST [#5] Last year was the year of the backup QB. If the trend continues again this year I wonder if there will be a correction (or at least slowing down) of paying a single QB majority of the teams cap space. Maybe a bad take but it's something to think about.

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Originally Posted By MilHouse-556:
Last year was the year of the backup QB.

If the trend continues again this year I wonder if there will be a correction (or at least slowing down) of paying a single QB majority of the teams cap space.

Maybe a bad take but it's something to think about.

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A more likely response will be yet more rules to protect QBs. The NFL loves the revenue associated with QB star power.

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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:36:50 AM EST

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

His leg got torqued sideways by a defender on the ground while another guy was tackling him high.

I don't think you can blame that on the field.

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Yeah, field was shit, but not the reason he got hurt.

NFL should be fucking embarrassed between their players slipping everywhere, QB getting hurt, ans the 17+ penalties.

Hunter-Killer Wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere Joined Dec 2010 Posts 97932 EE 100% (68) TX, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 10:40:16 AM EST [Last Edit: Hunter-Killer] [#8] Should the tackle that injured Love had been a flag? Attached File

lefty-weaver-g19 Joined May 2012 Posts 6277 EE 100% (14) IA, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 10:56:23 AM EST [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Should the tackle that injured Love had been a flag? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_1414_jpeg-3315659.JPG View Quote I think the guy down low was already on the ground then grabbed his legs. That's the only reason I can think of that they didn't flag them for hitting the QB low.

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Posted: 9/7/2024 11:03:28 AM EST

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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:

I think the guy down low was already on the ground then grabbed his legs. That's the only reason I can think of that they didn't flag them for hitting the QB low.

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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19:

Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Should the tackle that injured Love had been a flag?

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I think the guy down low was already on the ground then grabbed his legs. That's the only reason I can think of that they didn't flag them for hitting the QB low.

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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:07:25 PM EST

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

His leg got torqued sideways by a defender on the ground while another guy was tackling him high.

I don't think you can blame that on the field.

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Originally Posted By colklink:
That field was fucked. Sorry to see the kid maybe lose a season for nothing.

His leg got torqued sideways by a defender on the ground while another guy was tackling him high.

I don't think you can blame that on the field.

I agree with your assessment.

The only thing I’d add is the field conditions appeared to influence that Eagles defender going to the ground in the first place.

For some reason my gut says he’ll be out ~4 weeks but obviously there is the chance it’s a season ender which would be a shame.

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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:12:02 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Should the tackle that injured Love had been a flag?

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I’m just going off of memory, but didn’t JLove start running towards the LOS from the pocket before contact was obviously imminent and then he pitched it to Jacobs?

That seems important, I feel like you can’t be pissed about high/low if your QB appears to be getting ready to scramble up the middle.

I never thought they should have been flagged.

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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Should the tackle that injured Love had been a flag?

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Here’s a replay of the play on which Packers QB Jordan Love was injured: pic.twitter.com/vfDHJNaPF5
Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 7, 2024

Here's a video rather than a still photo for more context. Love is trying to get away and Carter tries wrapping him up from the ground. I don't understand what would warrant a flag. Unfortunate, hope he's not out long.

GenYRevolverGuy Formerly known as Bassgasm Joined Dec 2010 Posts 47963 EE 100% (1) MO, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 2:52:32 PM EST [#17] #Packers QB Jordan Love, who went down with a lower leg injury late in his team’s loss to the #Eagles in Brazil, had tests on his knee today that revealed an MCL sprain, source said. No ACL damage. pic.twitter.com/Py7tX642Ys Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 7, 2024
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Hunter-Killer Wooimbouttamakeanameformyselfere Joined Dec 2010 Posts 97965 EE 100% (68) TX, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 2:53:57 PM EST [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: #Packers QB Jordan Love, who went down with a lower leg injury late in his team’s loss to the #Eagles in Brazil, had tests on his knee today that revealed an MCL sprain, source said. No ACL damage. pic.twitter.com/Py7tX642Ys Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 7, 2024 View Quote

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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:01:58 PM EST

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\uD83D\uDEA8 Jordan Love update

Love sprained the MCL in his left knee.

This is the ligament that runs north-to-south on the inside of the knee, commonly injured when a player is tackled on the outside of their knee. In this situation it was when the Eagles defender forced his knee… https://t.co/yM5vR2pUe0 pic.twitter.com/JputLjwhA6
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StarCityShooter Member Joined Jan 2014 Posts 13075 EE 100% (34) VA, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 3:35:41 PM EST [#21] Quote History Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: #Packers QB Jordan Love, who went down with a lower leg injury late in his team’s loss to the #Eagles in Brazil, had tests on his knee today that revealed an MCL sprain, source said. No ACL damage. pic.twitter.com/Py7tX642Ys Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 7, 2024 View Quote Hope so for the kid
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No fucking shit. Maybe even catch a game in Ukraine soon

The international games are out of control

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No fucking shit. Maybe even catch a game in Ukraine soon

The international games are out of control

The NFL knows that the vast majority of fans don’t care (they watch on TV) and it is a huge growth potential going forward.

The ownership loves it as it will increase valuations and ultimately allow then to sell minority stakes to private equity (like other international sports).

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Posted: 9/7/2024 5:48:11 PM EST

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I know cowboys fans are lamenting that deal. Barkley went from a bad NFCE team to a good one.

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I know cowboys fans are lamenting that deal. Barkley went from a bad NFCE team to a good one.

But they got Zek back!

colklink Big girls make all your dreams come true! Joined Dec 2001 Posts 51447 EE 100% (4) WV, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 5:48:17 PM EST [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By Alembic: I know cowboys fans are lamenting that deal. Barkley went from a bad NFCE team to a good one. View Quote Yep.
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colklink Big girls make all your dreams come true! Joined Dec 2001 Posts 51448 EE 100% (4) WV, USA	Posted: 9/7/2024 5:50:43 PM EST [#28] Quote History Originally Posted By MilHouse-556: But they got Zek back! View Quote Oh yay.
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Originally Posted By RSG:
Did he ever go to the Jets headquarters/facilities even once?

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I don't get it. He would have been a free agent after this year, he could have shown up, had a good year, cash in next year. All those fines, he is never making that money back.

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Posted: 9/8/2024 8:13:00 AM EST

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Originally Posted By colklink:

I don't get it. He would have been a free agent after this year, he could have shown up, had a good year, cash in next year. All those fines, he is never making that money back.

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Originally Posted By colklink:

Originally Posted By RSG:
Did he ever go to the Jets headquarters/facilities even once?

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I don't get it. He would have been a free agent after this year, he could have shown up, had a good year, cash in next year. All those fines, he is never making that money back.

No.

He's a 30 year old pass rusher.

Standing his ground on this is the right choice, and that's before considering the Jets play in Met Life Stadium.

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Posted: 9/8/2024 8:19:36 AM EST

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

No.

He's a 30 year old pass rusher.

Standing his ground on this is the right choice, and that's before considering the Jets play in Met Life Stadium.

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Maybe so. If he had had a good year though, above average pass rushers will have a market. IMO he has lost more in fines than he will gain.

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Posted: 9/8/2024 8:26:05 AM EST

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Maybe so. If he had had a good year though, above average pass rushers will have a market. IMO he has lost more in fines than he will gain.

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

No.

He's a 30 year old pass rusher.

Standing his ground on this is the right choice, and that's before considering the Jets play in Met Life Stadium.

Maybe so. If he had had a good year though, above average pass rushers will have a market. IMO he has lost more in fines than he will gain.

Losing millions in fines and salary is hard to relate to with that kind of stubborness. Could have easily done a hold in. Sounds like all they wanted was for him to show up first to start negotiating.

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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:

\uD83D\uDEA8 Jordan Love update

Love sprained the MCL in his left knee.

This is the ligament that runs north-to-south on the inside of the knee, commonly injured when a player is tackled on the outside of their knee. In this situation it was when the Eagles defender forced his knee… https://t.co/yM5vR2pUe0 pic.twitter.com/JputLjwhA6
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Posted: 9/8/2024 10:13:45 AM EST

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I know cowboys fans are lamenting that deal. Barkley went from a bad NFCE team to a good one.

But they got Zek back!

Coulda just lit that $$ on fire. At least you’d have the roster spot to bring in a young player with some speed.

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Originally Posted By nisa715:
Anyone know if there are cheaper options to watch the Bears game from Nevada? Don’t want to pay for NFL ticket when I wont need it for every game. Can you pay for just single games?

Do you own a pirate hat?

Do the streams in Nevada run east?