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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:27:06 PM EST
[#1]
They seriously need to kill off some of the lesser characters.
Tara, Morgan, and Michonne have run their course, especially Tara. Michonne just sucks at everything and the sword ninja thing to way played out. I would like more story about the saviors like the episode with only Eugene. That imo was the best of the season. Trevor and Dwight are actually kind of interesting if given a story. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:32:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jerret_S:
They seriously need to kill off some of the lesser characters. Tara, Morgan, and Michonne have run their course, especially Tara. Michonne just sucks at everything and the sword ninja thing to way played out. I would like more story about the saviors like the episode with only Eugene. That imo was the best of the season. Trevor and Dwight are actually kind of interesting if given a story. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:41:47 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jerret_S:
They seriously need to kill off some of the lesser characters. Tara, Morgan, and Michonne have run their course, especially Tara. Michonne just sucks at everything and the sword ninja thing to way played out. I would like more story about the saviors like the episode with only Eugene. That imo was the best of the season. Trevor and Dwight are actually kind of interesting if given a story. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:43:30 PM EST
[#4]
I never realized Sasha's real life husband is a character on the show until now.
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:43:48 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ1018:
Got to be around 3 by my count. Series starts in the summer and when they leave the farm it is going into winter. When the series picked up it was spring/summer and they had spent the winter on the road, that's roughly one year. After the first battle with the Governor it was fall again, when the series picked back up it was spring/summer again, so that's winter #2. After the second battle with the governor when they are on the road again and run into the Claimers that is possibly fall/winter #3. When they run into Aaron they are suffering from heat exhaustion and dehaydration which would make me think it is summer again. Whey they are discussing kicking Rick out it is cold out again which would make me think that was around winter #4. Not sure exactly how long it has been but it has to be more then 2 years in my opinion. .50 ammo isn't something you find at the local Walmart or in quantity at most gun shops. If the zompie apocalypse happened tommrow and I found a 240 I would have some 7.62mm to feed it, but no links so it would just be a really heavy piece of metal I can't use. Without belted ammunition you can't do anything with a machine gun. Worth view the situation from the Saviors perspective. Rick and company would be the stuff nightmares are made out of. They wiped out an entire outpost, plus at least a 3 other squad size groups of saviors. Since they made Rick's group submit there have been 3 attempts to kill Negan. Rosita pulling a concealed pistol and then both Carl and Sasha attempting kamikaze attacks. Now they sent Negan and the Saviors running for their lives after seeing one of their own get eaten by a tiger. I'd be getting rather nervous if I was a low ranking member of the Saviors. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:44:03 PM EST
[#6]
Rick just figured out (and should have known by now
 ) when you plan something like that you have a few people you trust absolutely placed in strategic places that NO ONE ELSE knows where they are so if shit goes sideways they can take out those who need taking out.
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:54:43 PM EST
[#7]
So we get the Dwight cliff hanger, how will he help Rick kill Negan?
How will Rick manage to fight the saviors with the heapsters joint them giving them huge numbers? |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:00:54 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K31Swiss:
I never realized Sasha's real life husband is a character on the show until now. Who is it? |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:02:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
Who is it? 
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:04:48 PM EST
[#10]
Heath is her husband?
Well, shit they should have asked her where the fuck he's off to on Talking! 
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:19:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daps:
Man I hope not. They have already done the cannibal story line I think they 10 are men and for them to be sex slaves or drones Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daps:
Originally Posted By cavgunner:
Lol Now logic in tactics applies?? Cmon man you know better. The writers have left any concept of logic and reality behind. They can do anything. I mean, for fucks sake, Rick is still carrying a revolver. Crash a truck filled with gasoline into the garbage pile. Pick em off as they all come running out on fire. PS I agree they might be cannibal. . I think they 10 are men and for them to be sex slaves or drones |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:38:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daps:
Dang it's been on that long? PD Live is better 
But COPS isn't following the same dept for 25 years. If it had I'm sure it would have been over. TWD has enough episodes for syndication. Time to wrap it up. I think they messed up bringing Fear out when they did. Better to wrap TWD and then brought Fear out Survivor is over 30 seasons & still going strong - not the same type of show so it can't be compared. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:39:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
Heath is her husband? Well, shit they should have asked her where the fuck he's off to on Talking! He doesn't get much time - he's just a red shirt. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:42:19 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp:
No, the middle guy. He doesn't get much time - he's just a red shirt. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 2:18:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JsARCLIGHT:
Its not so much an issue of tactics, but one of audience manipulation. The show has had previous armed conflicts that lacked any sense of tactics but were both exciting and deadly, keeping the audience on the edge of their seats. The final assault on the prison in season 4 is an excellent example... you have a mexican standoff that ends in a huge gun fight. And not only was it a standoff taking place at hundred plus yards, but tons of people died and were wounded in that battle. To use the liberal terminology de jure it "felt" like a weighty battle that had consequence. The skirmish last night was like a phantom dump... lots of stomach clutching as they slowly limped to the bathroom only to result in a bunch of noise and fury with nothing of any consequence coming out. All said they must have dumped ten thousand rounds in all directions in close quarters with children's cartoon casualties. And that is ignoring the actual functional "how did it happen" questions others have already brought up, like how did the Kingdom and Hilltop know each other, and how did they get into Alexandria anyway without anyone noticing... and how in any fantasy world does a 600 pound tiger move completely unseen through a crowd of people. Suffice it to say the show has been sliding down hill since season 5. It is taking a lot of my patience to keep watching, and I may transition from "fan with serious reservations" to outright "hostile witness" next season. I hate to think this way but right now I'm polishing my baseball bat, dreaming of bashing Fear the Walking Dead's skull in in two months. I'm going to hate watch that show so hard I'm going to need to build two robot companions to aid me in my violent snarkbashing of it. Lots of convenient coincidences and inconsistencies in this season, not to mention this episode. Would Rick have killed Grandma at Oceanside had a huge group of walkers not conveniently uncloaked and amassed at just the right time? Does Negan not realize that taking other peoples' wives against their wills and holding them prisoner in his own harem where only he can have sex with them is basically rape? Question: Was anyone expecting Negan to kill Coral or were you just waiting for a last second white knight to save the day? Same thing for Michonne. Was anyone thinking it was her that did the falling from the rooftop? And someone please tell me how a tame(?) tiger knows who to attack and who to leave alone in a live firefight between 5 different elements. I am now actively hoping for the bad guys to kill off good guys in the show. I mean, how freakin' clumsy do they have to write this whole Gregory versus Maggie thing? He can't kill a walker and she's prancing around all pregnant and apparently in need of constant medical attention yet spearheads Hilltop's assault into Alexandria? Are these writers using crayons when they write the scripts? We already knew he was a self-serving asshole that might sell his own people out for his own best interests. But for Pete's sake, they might as well have dressed him in a black suit with a handle bar mustache and had him tie Maggie to some railroad tracks considering the lack of subtlety in these scripts. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 4:21:19 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Qweevox:
The show is ...meh. I've been half-watching it for a couple of years now. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:26:56 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JsARCLIGHT:
Which completely removes any sort of tension or drama from the entire "held by gunpoint" scene, and is also very "quick we need a reason for them to NOT just shoot everyone when they have them backed into a corner" logic. The whole setup was clunky and very convenient from a writing standpoint, designed to produce maximum drama with minimum casualties... which should be TWD's subtitle now. I think Sirensong hit the nail on the head... last night was an awkward throwback to 80s action writing. It was like a ham-fisted combination of amateur Shakespeare fanfiction and Rambo... trying so hard to be artistic, but coming off way too long winded and stilted in its delivery. And when the action starts everyone suddenly can't hit shit with a gun, and if they can it is "shrugged off heroic fleshwounds for everyone". I felt like a kid watching the old GI Joe cartoon... guns shooting everywhere, people running at each other in the open, but nobody is dying except the disposable redshirts. I almost expected to hear Rick scream YO JOE! as he opened up with that AK... and I also expected to see Zartan, I mean, JYR leader tell the Dreadnoks to run for it... and Savior Commander to scream at Major Dwightt to RETREAT! while shaking his fist at the Joes screaming "I'll get you next time Joessssssssssss!" as they booked it out in a Hiss tank that magically couldn't be hit by any gunfire. Then afterwards the "face" wounded are shown to be ok in the hospital, and Saviors Commander consults with Doctor Genebender on how their crazy plan fell apart. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JsARCLIGHT:
Originally Posted By jwr6:
Because JYR's deal with Negan was for people. Their Plan A was capture, not kill. They had a signal to shift from Plan A to Plan B (escape). They had no plan for "kill a bunch of Alexandrians and wait to be rewarded by Negan". I expect Negan specifically told them not to kill a bunch of Alexandrians, or the deal was off and they would be working for the Saviors. I think Sirensong hit the nail on the head... last night was an awkward throwback to 80s action writing. It was like a ham-fisted combination of amateur Shakespeare fanfiction and Rambo... trying so hard to be artistic, but coming off way too long winded and stilted in its delivery. And when the action starts everyone suddenly can't hit shit with a gun, and if they can it is "shrugged off heroic fleshwounds for everyone". I felt like a kid watching the old GI Joe cartoon... guns shooting everywhere, people running at each other in the open, but nobody is dying except the disposable redshirts. I almost expected to hear Rick scream YO JOE! as he opened up with that AK... and I also expected to see Zartan, I mean, JYR leader tell the Dreadnoks to run for it... and Savior Commander to scream at Major Dwightt to RETREAT! while shaking his fist at the Joes screaming "I'll get you next time Joessssssssssss!" as they booked it out in a Hiss tank that magically couldn't be hit by any gunfire. Then afterwards the "face" wounded are shown to be ok in the hospital, and Saviors Commander consults with Doctor Genebender on how their crazy plan fell apart. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 7:18:35 AM EST
[#18]
Negan should go full grey beard next season like he did on Talking Dead, makes him look even more psycho
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:13:03 AM EST
[#19]
so I pulled down the AMC app and hunt pecked my way thru the timeline
the junkyard romulans locked the gate with a red umbrella?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:20:04 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMGisbetter:
They seriously fucked up when they didn't kill Dwight in the cell. He was of no value. Mistake #2 was not having people outside the gate to snipe off negans men. Mistake 3 was an unlocked gate. That said, why was Wight the only one who could fell trees across a road? Why did he need to do this unsupervised? Did he have some secret lumberjackin' skills? |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:25:18 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp:
No, the middle guy. He doesn't get much time - he's just a red shirt. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:48:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: doc_Zox]
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:52:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: doc_Zox]
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:03:26 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNC:
Lucky man. She truly is lovely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNC:
Originally Posted By shocktrp:
No, the middle guy. He doesn't get much time - he's just a red shirt. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:13:14 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenranger:
Rick just figured out (and should have known by now ) when you plan something like that you have a few people you trust absolutely placed in strategic places that NO ONE ELSE knows where they are so if shit goes sideways they can take out those who need taking out. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:13:31 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc_Zox:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/IMG-8329-180583.JPG drops the AR at the trashtruck finds trashcan gun on top |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:16:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: doc_Zox]
[#27]
so did the PRI delta flashcan gun
 Attached Filebut Daryl removed them during the battle  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:18:54 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FOX184:
C'mon now, with an area with millions of population and so few survivors there would be plenty of military arms for the taking. There would also be some armor left around that would prove useful. It would probably be beneficial to have some artillery and maybe a tank or two. Also, all the "gasoline" cars and trucks would probably be useless by now. They should be switching over to diesel cars and trucks, and show them setting up small scale diesel fuel refineries, there would be plenty of stuff to make diesel for years to come. They really need to be thinking about winding this show down. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:21:02 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc_Zox:
so did the PRI delta flashcan gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/IMG-8298-180588.JPG |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:21:15 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc_Zox:
so did the PRI delta flashcan gun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3097/IMG-8298-180588.JPG |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:25:44 AM EST
[#31]
i guess that is an extended charging handle to clear the scope that the armorer removed
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:27:20 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc_Zox:
i guess that is an extended charging handle to clear the scope that the armorer removed |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:39:11 AM EST
[#33]
Kind of glad this season is over...but disappointed Negan is still alive. The frustrating part about this season is Negan isn't that scary outside of the gore in the first episode and they had to make Rick's character so week to play up the saviors.
Rick went from biting throats out to kneeling and pleading with a knife to a guy with his back turned half the time armed with a baseball bat. The saviors should have been an event in the storyline not the storyline. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:41:27 AM EST
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:47:26 AM EST
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:36:46 AM EST
[#36]
Just watched the ep.
-still don't understand why Rick agreed to any alliance with garbage romulans??? They met, crazed bitch threw him in a walker pile, then he arms them? -why wasn't the kingdom ready to rock in the beginning, why come 10 mins late? -whole buncha derpy derp Etc Etc Etc Etc |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:50:23 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007:
I thought it was a decent episode, but what pisses me off is the over-representation of gays. Yeah, have a couple, but at this point it's out of proportion so bad it affects credibility. Making Jesus gay as well threw it over the line for me. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:55:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: DDiggler]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007:
I thought it was a decent episode, but what pisses me off is the over-representation of gays. Yeah, have a couple, but at this point it's out of proportion so bad it affects credibility. Making Jesus gay as well threw it over the line for me. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:41:02 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDiggler:
They're not showing gratuitous gay sex, so meh. Don't care. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDiggler:
Originally Posted By fargo007:
I thought it was a decent episode, but what pisses me off is the over-representation of gays. Yeah, have a couple, but at this point it's out of proportion so bad it affects credibility. Making Jesus gay as well threw it over the line for me. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:42:06 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo:
Best steer clear of the series finale of Black Sails, then. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo:
Originally Posted By fargo007:
I thought it was a decent episode, but what pisses me off is the over-representation of gays. Yeah, have a couple, but at this point it's out of proportion so bad it affects credibility. Making Jesus gay as well threw it over the line for me. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:46:14 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
That's okay though, its all girls. However nearly every main character girl is gay which I find odd. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:36:50 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APPARITION:
Was there more than 3 seasons? I think I've seen 3 seasons. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APPARITION:
Originally Posted By Dace:
That's okay though, its all girls. However nearly every main character girl is gay which I find odd. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 7:19:20 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesTheScot:
Good posting. Lots of convenient coincidences and inconsistencies in this season, not to mention this episode. Would Rick have killed Grandma at Oceanside had a huge group of walkers not conveniently uncloaked and amassed at just the right time? Does Negan not realize that taking other peoples' wives against their wills and holding them prisoner in his own harem where only he can have sex with them is basically rape? Question: Was anyone expecting Negan to kill Coral or were you just waiting for a last second white knight to save the day? Same thing for Michonne. Was anyone thinking it was her that did the falling from the rooftop? And someone please tell me how a tame(?) tiger knows who to attack and who to leave alone in a live firefight between 5 different elements. I am now actively hoping for the bad guys to kill off good guys in the show. I mean, how freakin' clumsy do they have to write this whole Gregory versus Maggie thing? He can't kill a walker and she's prancing around all pregnant and apparently in need of constant medical attention yet spearheads Hilltop's assault into Alexandria? Are these writers using crayons when they write the scripts? We already knew he was a self-serving asshole that might sell his own people out for his own best interests. But for Pete's sake, they might as well have dressed him in a black suit with a handle bar mustache and had him tie Maggie to some railroad tracks considering the lack of subtlety in these scripts. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 7:46:53 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky_Day:
4 seasons...infinitely better writing, infinitely better acting - like Penny Dreadful though but to a lesser degree, it has gaydude stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky_Day:
Originally Posted By APPARITION:
Originally Posted By Dace:
That's okay though, its all girls. However nearly every main character girl is gay which I find odd. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:40:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: GADeerHunter]
[#45]
I just keep thinking that my biggest gripe with the finale was the foreshadowing that ruined Sasha's sacrifice.
It really was a just a spell out for the audience. We knew exactly what was going to happen when Negan opened that coffin.. It would have been a much more surprising moment had it not been completely explained in the minutes that preceded it. The only explanation needed was Eugene's nervous answer as to why she was dead, and Negan's doubtfulness. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 8:47:00 PM EST
[#46]
Every story has an arc,
"Hey, I got no arc, either. I was born, grew up, spent a few years in the Army, few more in the can--and here I am, a half a wise guy. So what?". That said I mean, for fucks sake, Rick is still carrying a revolver. its not a revolver its a F%$Kin PYTHON After the betrayal does this mean Jadis gets no boom boom from Rick. John Wayne gun wounds are perfectly acceptable in this franchise. all wounds will heal within 24 hours. it's a TV show guys. And I like it.  
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:08:59 PM EST
[#47]
Damn, more bitching around here than a sorority house. Seriously, if you don't like the show, why do you guys watch it? Why would you waste your time watching a show you don't like & then waste more time talking about why you don't like it??
If i don't like a show, i won't watch it. Pretty simple concept. Watch something else, fuck your SO, go to a bar, etc.. So many other things to do, than watch something you don't like. You'll probably even feel better the next day.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:13:24 PM EST
[#48]
So, you think Daryl and Jesus are gonna hook up?
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:26:11 PM EST
[#49]
Why does every random ass car they find on the side of the road have fully inflated tires and fire up without hesitation, always. I leave my truck in the driveway for a few weeks and shit goes south nevermind x many years since the apocolypse began.
Idk why this bothers me just feels like the producers are expecting people to believe the unbelievable. Zombies taking over the world, ok. 5 years and gas isnt rancid and a fully charged battery, getthefuckouttahere. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 2:15:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22:
Why does every random ass car they find on the side of the road have fully inflated tires and fire up without hesitation, always. I leave my truck in the driveway for a few weeks and shit goes south nevermind x many years since the apocolypse began. Idk why this bothers me just feels like the producers are expecting people to believe the unbelievable. Zombies taking over the world, ok. 5 years and gas isnt rancid and a fully charged battery, getthefuckouttahere. |
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